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May 20, 2022, 09:52:44 PM
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Also to mind off that signature campaigns arent permanent therefore its just dumb that you would really be that relying your living into that.
Yeah, I get the realities of my scenario as they'd probably play out in real life, including the fact that nobody's sure how long sig campaigns are going to exist.  I'm not sure which one has been the longest-running, but Chipmixer has been doing theirs for well over a year now, right?  And campaigns aren't what they used to be in terms of how much one could earn from them.  It used to be that if you made 50 posts in a week for Chipmixer, you'd earn 0.0375BTC, and they kept that rate right up to the point when that amount of bitcoin was way more than $300. 

I don't even know what other campaigns pay.  Do they come close to Chipmixer?

As far as im aware, there are some long term campaigns like Crypto.games,Betcoin.ag which is mostly on gambling field or industry.Pay might not be the same compared to Chipmixer

but they had been running for for a while but just like as i have said earlier that it isnt really good on putting your life dependent on it because campaigns doesnt last forever

but it would be lucky of you if you had able to join for possible long time running which would really be helpful in some way.It might be big for some or small.

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May 21, 2022, 03:57:00 PM
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A country like Nigeria you’ll definitely live like a king. A country where the minimum wage currently $55~₦33,000. Getting a pay of $1500 weekly ~ ₦900,000, you’re already a made person and you won’t be seen as an average person again. With that money one can stay in the nations state capital Abuja, one of  the fastest growing city in Africa and live the best life he can ever imagine and cater for the needs of his family to the fullest also.
With this amount you’ll live a comfortable life in Nigeria for several years to come as the Naira rate to dollar keeps increasing, currently at $1~₦600.

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May 21, 2022, 04:20:45 PM
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I've seen lots of entries in the Philippines in here. Yes, cost of living is very low, but if you want to maximize what you earn AND spend, I'd definitely stay away from city proper and live near beaches, preferably on Palawan or somewhere in La Union. If the average signature campaign pays about $70 a week, believe me, you can still get a decent, 1-bedroom house on these parts and still have plenty for groceries, utilities, and some beer money.

I did try it once, though with $400 a month just from signature campaigns. I managed to pull through and still have $50 to spare. I lived in Pangasinan (close proximity to La Union) and enjoyed my stay without getting hungry or even feeling like my budget of $400 will be out before I finish the month.

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May 21, 2022, 04:36:16 PM
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$1500 a week should be enough in most Southeast Asian countries (aside from Singapore of course). For example in my country $1500 is already around half of the annual minimum wage. It of course depends on where you plan to settle.

Urban areas tend to be expensive and there are locations where you could spend all that money in less than a week. Some people suggest just living in rural areas but if you can find some place decent in the city, I'd suggest that, mostly because healthcare in the rural areas tend to be lacking. Don't wanna get stuck in there in an emergency.
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$1500 a week should be enough in most Southeast Asian countries (aside from Singapore of course). For example in my country $1500 is already around half of the annual minimum wage. It of course depends on where you plan to settle.

Urban areas tend to be expensive and there are locations where you could spend all that money in less than a week. Some people suggest just living in rural areas but if you can find some place decent in the city, I'd suggest that, mostly because healthcare in the rural areas tend to be lacking. Don't wanna get stuck in there in an emergency.
That is correct - $ 1500 is a decent money in money country to have an average life. Not to mark it as living like a king.
But yes - you can live like an middle class person in a decent apartment and can have good food on the table.

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May 22, 2022, 07:57:20 PM
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Also to mind off that signature campaigns arent permanent therefore its just dumb that you would really be that relying your living into that.
Yeah, I get the realities of my scenario as they'd probably play out in real life, including the fact that nobody's sure how long sig campaigns are going to exist.  I'm not sure which one has been the longest-running, but Chipmixer has been doing theirs for well over a year now, right?  And campaigns aren't what they used to be in terms of how much one could earn from them.  It used to be that if you made 50 posts in a week for Chipmixer, you'd earn 0.0375BTC, and they kept that rate right up to the point when that amount of bitcoin was way more than $300. 

I don't even know what other campaigns pay.  Do they come close to Chipmixer?

As far as im aware, there are some long term campaigns like Crypto.games,Betcoin.ag which is mostly on gambling field or industry.Pay might not be the same compared to Chipmixer

but they had been running for for a while but just like as i have said earlier that it isnt really good on putting your life dependent on it because campaigns doesnt last forever

but it would be lucky of you if you had able to join for possible long time running which would really be helpful in some way.It might be big for some or small.
That is an important point to take note: we don't know how long campaigns are going to last, therefore they don't offer financial stability like a formal job we could have access in our countries. Taking this into consideration, I would suggest people to not live as a king (even if they could), because this way they will be "wasting" money that is useful for investing in the present moment, in order to prepare themselves financially for the future, for times when signature campaigns might not be disponible anymore. Adding this to the potential appreciation in BTC price that must happen anytime soon, people can build a very decent income in some years.

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May 23, 2022, 11:14:01 AM
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You mean this thoughts came to you from time to time? If it's only a fantasy then it wasn't serious at all so it can be funny too. You can make your own fantasy came true if only you are willing to work hard for it. You can build a land of your own if that is what your fantasy and earnings from signature campaigns can help you make it happen.

When you earn you can save, invest/stake, or any other things that you can do to make more out of it. Why will someone interfere you? As long as you are doing things in a legal and fair way, you are going to be fine. Just don't mind the haters. There's always a people like that because they can't achieve their own fantasies/dreams.
It is just good to consider what would happen if you actually tried this and I agree, it’s definitely a great thing. I mean if you have a legendary account and you are earning like 400 bucks a month then you are going to be able to "survive" in so many nations, like literally dozens. Of course, there are no nations where you can live like a king via sig campaigns, maybe like Venezuela, or something like Zimbabwe, but who would want to live there.

This is why it is possible to only survive but just to consider that, like cutting all of your extra costs and then making sure that you could live with signature money is a great fantasy to have, none of us do it, but would be great.

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May 23, 2022, 11:27:21 AM
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In our country that's a huge amount of income already, however, it still depends on your lifestyle because normally people live based on what they earn and

I think $6000 a month is not enough if you live a lavish life. If we talk about being a King, then we should assume that we can do everything we want in life, the life of a rich to be exact, but if you live like the standard of the minimum wage earner in our country which is like $300 a month, then you will certainly enjoy and not only enjoy but you can always have good life savings.

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May 23, 2022, 11:40:45 AM
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In our country that's a huge amount of income already, however, it still depends on your lifestyle because normally people live based on what they earn
With $1500/week three friends can live anywhere in the world depending on their lifestyle as you mentioned. The focus first should be the expectation of this three persons when it comes to location. Some one can even live comfortably with as low as $300 a week for three friends in any part of the world.

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In our country that's a huge amount of income already, however, it still depends on your lifestyle because normally people live based on what they earn
With $1500/week three friends can live anywhere in the world depending on their lifestyle as you mentioned. The focus first should be the expectation of this three persons when it comes to location. Some one can even live comfortably with as low as $300 a week for three friends in any part of the world.
The best practice is - go for the minimalist approach - where less is more.
Try to have an organic garden around where you can pick up fresh veggies and save some money. And find money saving ideas to have a good living.

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I've seen lots of entries in the Philippines in here. Yes, cost of living is very low, but if you want to maximize what you earn AND spend, I'd definitely stay away from city proper and live near beaches, preferably on Palawan or somewhere in La Union. If the average signature campaign pays about $70 a week, believe me, you can still get a decent, 1-bedroom house on these parts and still have plenty for groceries, utilities, and some beer money.

I did try it once, though with $400 a month just from signature campaigns. I managed to pull through and still have $50 to spare. I lived in Pangasinan (close proximity to La Union) and enjoyed my stay without getting hungry or even feeling like my budget of $400 will be out before I finish the month.

I quite agree. The cost of living in some places of the Philippines is quite expensive for us Filipinos already to let's say like for example in Manila, house rent may amount to 100$ to 200$ a month for a much decent place plus daily expenses like food, electricity, etc. (btw, I think we have the most expensive electricity in the whole Asia) unlike to provinces that you have mentioned even though electricity is quite expensive food and houses for staycation are less expensive plus the fresh air and all beautiful places it feels like heaven lol. But sig. campaigns still can't make us live like a king even in our provinces but at least have a quite decent way of living. A living where we can eat three times a day and have a place to stay.
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In our country that's a huge amount of income already, however, it still depends on your lifestyle because normally people live based on what they earn and

I think $6000 a month is not enough if you live a lavish life. If we talk about being a King, then we should assume that we can do everything we want in life, the life of a rich to be exact, but if you live like the standard of the minimum wage earner in our country which is like $300 a month, then you will certainly enjoy and not only enjoy but you can always have good life savings.

I am having some troubles with following your response freedomgo.

First you say "in your country" but you do not say which country that is.  Surely, we have also discussed that within any country, also, there tend to be considerable differences living within the metropolitan areas (or perhaps rich areas) and the more rural or suburb areas; however, countries differ too in the level of infrastructure (or even sense of security) that exists once getting outside of the main metropolitan areas.

A second thing is that you seem to be not really accounting that OP had mentioned $6k per month to apply for 5 guys, so $1,200 each... so surely there is a difference between living as an individual versus sharing resources as a group in terms of the standard of living that can be achieved.. and surely OP ended up adding a bit more complexity by adding that variable to pool the resources 5 guys, so I don't really have any problem with the idea of removing that variable and then attempting to grapple with the quantity of income - but at least to recognize that the 5 guys variable had existed in the initial presentation, and it seems to me that the hypothetical would not be even close to the same if we would be presuming that a guy would be earning $6k per month because then the whole hypothetical becomes nearly a completely different set of variables to figure out how some one person might be able to earn $6k per month and still be living in a lower income country while accomplishing that... quite a different kind of guy from my perspective as compared to a kind of guy that would earn $1,200 per month through a signature campaign (and maybe needing to supplement that, if he were to be living on his own instead of having 4 other guys to pool resources).

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There are obviously a lot of places that you could live a decent life only with $1500/month and it doesn't have to be a developing or an underdeveloped country. Essentially any country that (1) hasn't been plagued with Capitalism and (2) has good amount of natural resources so it doesn't have to import much (3) has a production based economy (opposed to credit based economy) would have a low cost of living.

But cost of living is only a small part of what you should be looking for if you want to migrate there. I'd say the biggest challenge is the cultural differences. For example if you go from US to Canada, there won't be that much of a difference but if you go from US to Asia then the difference could be massive. That's on top of the language barrier. You may not be able to fit in or accept the new culture.

I'd say Iran is the only developed country with the lowest cost of living. Iran is also among the top 20 biggest economies and checks all 3 boxes (not plagued with capitalism, has high natural resources and is the most independent country when it comes to production of most the nation's needs). Part of the reason for the lowest cost is the exchange rate.

If I tell you my utility bill you won't believe me. I just paid a total of about $4.9 for phone, internet, mobile, gas, water and electric bill. And that's for 2 months not one since bills come every 2 months Cheesy
But then the internet speed is considered low in Iran specially these days mobile data is bad since the number of users is growing a lot faster than the infrastructure has been able to grow (90% of the 85 million own at least one phone actively connected to 4G).

Real estate cost depends a lot on the location. In the capital the price is ridiculously high, in some cases are higher than most expensive ones in Europe. But if you don't need to live close to work for example, and just want to build a villa and enjoy life in the beautiful 4 season country lower prices could be found.
If I wasn't so busy with my job I would have already bought a land and started building my own modern villa. By my initial calculations, somewhere close to the sea in Northern Iran a 1000 sq meters land and the cost of construction, etc. would be between $350k to $500k.

I own an apartment so I don't have any rent, unfortunately the rents could be very high and would eat through one's salary. I also don't pay any taxes because I live in a tax heaven! So I'd say my cost of living is about $50 a month. Of course that doesn't account for the extra shit I buy. For example I recently bought a new sofa set with handcrafted wooden tables, etc. that set be back a grand.
I believe the minimum wage is somewhere between $110 to $130 a month for workers. But an engineer with masters degree like me is paid from $250 to $500 a month. (I think I'm converting stuff correctly to USD although it's late at night and I'm tired lol).

The medical system here is excellent and the costs aren't that high. In fact this has turned Iran into an excellent choice for I think is referred to as medical tourism.

The food here is fantastic too. None of that genetic crap that has no tastes and induces cancer. 90% of the food is organic and cheap. Since someone mentioned rice above, the top quality Persian rise costs $2.66 per kilo although the one I buy is from Southern Iran with a unique taste and aroma that costs $1.66 per kilo ($16.6 per bag).
Speaking of food here is Iran from point of view of a tourist focusing on the wide variety of foods: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_YfaTnGXmTH6XJOo143UzIXkRLcUgtEg

As far as safety goes Iran is considered more secure than European countries like France or the UK.

But of course not everything here is hunky-dory. I mentioned some stuff I could think of above but I think we could say one of the biggest issues that has plagued the country has been weird inflation. For example real estate price went up 14% this week in the area where I live for no reason Smiley
The other problem is of course sanctions since Iran has been the most sanctioned country in the history for the past 43 years. I think we hit the record of 5000 sanctions last month ... woot woot. Cheesy
That could cause problems at times. For example price of computer hardware skyrocketed but they came back down slowly or during 2019-2020 when the pandemic began there was a lot of shortages which we couldn't import like ventilators but almost all the time this ends with domestic production followed by quality control and finally exports to compete on the global market with a higher quality but lower price product. (We currently export advanced medical equipment to 55 countries.)

I can't think of anything else but feel free to ask.

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I'm asking this question seriously, though I'm going to qualify that by saying that I'm not planning on doing anything like this.  It's just a fantasy of mine, and the question very much has to do with economics, i.e., it basically has to do with economies in various parts of the world and the cost of living.  

Let's say a few of the Chipmixer crowd wanted to escape whatever tyranny they were living under in their country or countries (I picked that campaign because I think it's the highest-paying one, but correct me if I'm wrong).  We'll assume for the sake of argument that the campaign is going to continue indefinitely and that each member (let's say five in total) make the maximum number of posts per week, earning $300 worth of bitcoin in the process.  Let's further assume that these Chipmixer snobs demand only the best--Havana cigars, a large dwelling with a decent amount of land and no neighbors, a wine cellar (to be filled), and all the illicit and legal substances their cadre of well-endowed women can procure.  And a lawyer on retainer.

My question is whether there's any place on earth where $1500/week could allow five roommates to live very comfortably--perhaps not as boss-like as I described above, but maybe at least the big house and property.

So I'd love to know how far campaign earnings ($1500 per week for 5 people in my example) could be stretched.  Are there actually places out there where one could not only survive but thrive by earning bitcoin on the forum?

<and how does one go about getting citizenship?>

When it comes to a place you wish to enjoy your earnings, Nigeria might just be the best for you. Nigeria is the sort of country where the rich gets to merry as they won't and the poor gets to suffer. Everyone tends to accord respect to the wealthy class and there are some pretty much wealthy people in the country. I don't know why you choose to live in a household of 5 roommates but with an earning as much as $300 a week, your directly at the middle class in respect to social stratification and that's all you need for a stable lifestyle in Nigeria. In fact, there are very few professionals in there field that could be boastful to earn as much even with all there certificates. Anyway, let's go down to it.

DWELLING (HOME/APARTMENT)
Houses in Nigera as per rented property and that excludes the property, just an empty house let's say, a 5 bedroom apartment would cost you as much as #2million = $3,483 = BTC0.115. This sort of apartment would come with a minimal packing space for at least 2 vehicles and would be within an estate environment with proper security, light and water supply. Mind you, you don't get to pay for water supply or packing space. Just security and the light supply. The light supply would be prepaid meter and that means, you pay as you consume of which, it would be relativelys stable to about 17hours of daily light supply. Its also necessary to own a backup electricity generator. Every other amenities within your household from water to cooking gas is self provided and no tax on it. Current cost of cooking gas is about #750 = $1.2 = BTC0.000042 per kg.

Your household furniture's are self provided, with each subject to your test and mind you, Nigeria dont produce no technology and as such, the price abroad + import fees + profit levied on goods, which is sellers specific gives us our selling price. You can as well buy and come with it from there and you get to pay for the shipping fee and clear with custom officers down here.

FOOD (DDISHES)
When it comes to food, we've got our local dishes and that you might not be used to but, they are very nice. If your one that loves trying new stuff, you can taste out some continental dishes over there, once particulate with Africa and you would have an idea on what to expect. Our food source is largely, starch, protein and vitamin and mineral salt. We've got some agro based produce too like the pumpkin, watermelon, carrots, garbage, onions bulbs e.t.c.
Pizza is also available and a mega size sells for #5,000 = $8.4 = BTC0.00028 and this is relative to the amount you can get for a good meal per head in Nigeria. Mind you, it ranges below and can be higher based on the restaurants or hotel for which one choses to eat. With common drinks like Coca-Cola or other soda drinks. Should you go for Chivita fruit juice, it cost as much as #1,000 = $1.66 = BTC0.000055. Exotic wines are subjective and mostly imported stuff. So prices applies as stated earlier on imported goods.

MOBILITY
Owing your own car is much better, you only get to fill it with gas and that costs as much as #170 = $0.28 = BTC0.0000095 per litre. The duration and how many litres to go for a day is relative to where ever you are. The difference is in price and traffic experienced while journeying.

OUTING/PARTYING
You've got 2 choices. You either get to go out to clubs or you do whatever at home and your very much free within your own domain. There are not much rules as to how loud you can get, especially on an eventful day. The cost is entirely based on you as to how wasted you want to be.

Note: All calculations where done based on prevailing price in the market and dollar to naira exchange rate which goes for about $1 = #593 and Bitcoin price to be BTC1 = $30,374. Also, all calculations for food and outing/partying was done on individual bases. The rest is relative as such being roommates.

Hope it helps. Thank you!

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Note: All calculations where done based on prevailing price in the market and dollar to naira exchange rate which goes for about $1 = #593 and Bitcoin price to be BTC1 = $30,374. Also, all calculations for food and outing/partying was done on individual bases. The rest is relative as such being roommates.

Hope it helps. Thank you!
Very detailed.
You know there is a concept of Airbnb, where host want money and guests want a place. It is win win for both -there you get a good place and cuts off other expenses like cleaning and washing and do the chores yourself and save a lot of money. The app is a good way to plan you visit anywhere - good luck.

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Note: All calculations where done based on prevailing price in the market and dollar to naira exchange rate which goes for about $1 = #593 and Bitcoin price to be BTC1 = $30,374. Also, all calculations for food and outing/partying was done on individual bases. The rest is relative as such being roommates.

Hope it helps. Thank you!

Brother man, you have been detailed and tried to encourage tourism to our home land Nigeria. Nigeria is actually a great place to live and enjoy life especially if you are coming with value currency because exchange rate to Naira favours the tourist far more if they decide to frolic in Nigeria.

By the way dollar exchange rate to Naira is $1 to #600 and with that adjustments to the spending and expenses to make while in Nigeria as today, the tourist would have #7 more to spend on a $ as you pegged your calculation on #593.

However, there is a current trend that we also have to put out there just to see if some countries could show helping hand in that. It is about the high level of insecurity in the country. Apart from corruption and bad governance, it has now degenerated to insecurity of life and properties. People are killed at any slightest  meaningless reason.

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May 23, 2022, 06:17:51 PM
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There are obviously a lot of places that you could live a decent life only with $1500/month and it doesn't have to be a developing or an underdeveloped country.
Some countries $1500 is very big money that can serve somebody with family for two months without asking for money again until the next month some developed countries $1500 is still a money that is helpful but for African countries interior one with that big amount of $1500 shop establishment will commence within three weeks because the money is close or half of a million

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May 23, 2022, 07:55:31 PM
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There are obviously a lot of places that you could live a decent life only with $1500/month and it doesn't have to be a developing or an underdeveloped country.
Some countries $1500 is very big money that can serve somebody with family for two months without asking for money again until the next month some developed countries $1500 is still a money that is helpful but for African countries interior one with that big amount of $1500 shop establishment will commence within three weeks because the money is close or half of a million
That is correct - in our country too this is a big amount, and enough can be done in it.
If the unnecessary expenses can be cut down - the person can live like a king or queen. Our country food and fruit is very popular - one does not repent coming here.

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May 23, 2022, 08:23:41 PM
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Yes, Nigeria is a place where you can live like a king in some areas with $1500 and you will be well honor and respect through out the months or years you are going to spend in that land. Some of the crypto users in that environment are living a life like queens and Kings because they are making a huge amount of money from crypto investment like people that is working in oil company. Crypto users are living a good life and peaceful life than others business men in the land.

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May 24, 2022, 05:26:47 AM
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After reading this post i would refer you to 2 western african countries where you can live like a boss with just $1500 monthly compared to your weekly plans ,In this west african countries Ghana and Benin Republic ,the advantage of this countries is that the economy is good and your $1500 will have 2 times values due to it economy rate ,it will be equivalent to $3000, with $1500 weekly you live in a rented mansion and nice properties all to yourself ,good food and cook ,cleaning staff ,securities,best taxy hire of your choice to any intended destination, In Ghana and Benin republic You experience the best nice life experience with alot of woman and drinks to throw around and still celebrated daily . Every beautiful good looking ladies will love to be around you, making your rented mantion filled with woman of all kind throwing themselves at you everyday partying.
You have total freedom and all the time in the world to face your normal means of making this money ,this countries are peaceful ,security free ,friendly tourist countries .
Thinking of living that good life, dream life ,think of Republic of Ghana and Republic of Benin.
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