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June 10, 2018, 12:33:21 AM
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Cryptocurrencies can solve a lot of the problems in this world, from international boundaries to central bank failures. That said, we need to keep out eyes on the important factors for determining the conclusive cryptocurrency.
  • Decentralized
  • Feeless
  • Instant
  • Secure
We need to take a break from adding on smart contract platforms and supporting "IOT" to finish solving the issue cryptocurrency was support to solve: pay for goods.

We already have many projects who attempt to meet these goals, but all have their faults.
  • IOTA nodes are known to require 8 or even 16GB to function properly, and they have had issues connecting to the tangle. Not to mention the coordinator, a centralized entity marking when TXs can be trusted, that crashes the network when it's not online.
  • Nano is heavily centralized, with the developers still acting as the representative for over 50% of the network's coins. It also has weak consensus, with double spends possible, even though they are eventually resolved.

We at the Prometheus Project believe cryptocurrency is at a point where these problems can be solved, and it's time to do so.

Using a lattice, a modified form of a DAG akin to what Nano uses, where each address has their own blockchain, with coins moving between blockchains, we can allow instant appending to a blockchain. Unlike IOTA's tangle, a lattice, is a more ordered database not requiring future transactions to provide proof.

This also means all a client ever has to do is store their own blockchain, making storage costs minimal for users.

Of course, this doesn't describe how consensus is achieved. A PoS system backed by PoW is used. Mining a PoW blockchain gives stake, which is then used to approve TXs, without needing to generate work for each TX. This allows the chain to be instant, yet gives us the security of PoW.

When a TX is created, it must get 50.1% of the stake to say they approve the TX. This means no double spends can happen as it could only get 49.9% of the needed confirms, unless a miner went rogue. In that case, it would be forced to a vote, and the miner who double-verified would lose all their stake.

To offset the cost of mining, miners, according to how many TXs they validate and their stake, would be rewarded with new coins, from the network, not an address. This makes the coin inflationary, something most cryptocurrencies aren't. That said, BTC is inflationary until 2140, everyone reading this will likely be dead by then, and we doubt you buy BTC because you believe your great great grandchildren will be able to hold it as a deflationary asset.

Of course, writing up a cryptocurrency's details don't make it real. Work does. A lot of it.

If you want to help create a part of the future, we would like to have you. We need developers in C and Nim. We need people who understand the mathematics behind elliptic curve cryptography and understand the importance of constant time operations. We need people who can write P2P clients and optimize network activity. We need people who understand the potential this project represents. We need people who are willing to work on this, becoming a legal part of our organization, who will be rewarded when the time comes in an amount directly proportional your contribution.

If you are ready to join Project Prometheus, contact us. Feel free to write a bit about yourself, where you’re from, past experience, and why you want to join.

apply@PrometheusProject.io

If you have any questions, we will answer them in the comments below.
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June 10, 2018, 07:02:09 AM
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ICO?
airdrop?

[ANN] [VITE] [DAG + Reactive Contracts] Vite | Asynchronous Architecture
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4438416.0;topicseen

What’s the difference between vite and Prometheus.
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June 10, 2018, 08:37:13 AM
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So no actual developers.

Just an idea.

At least you are not asking for "donations" upfront.

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June 10, 2018, 06:27:52 PM
Last edit: June 10, 2018, 07:00:30 PM by PrometheusProject
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kamiyama:
We aren't doing an ICO, or an airdrop, and it will be months before we do anything.

Vite costs fees, and their HDPoS is looking to again be a heavily centralized consensus algorithm. We also won't focus on adding a smart contract platform.

BitPotus:
I'm actually a developer myself, and I've already gotten the PoW blockchain running (not networked yet though). I'm also partway through implementing SECP256k1 keys.

There was a project called Stone that got half a million for rephrasing a blog post on zkSnarks. They did no work and never proved they were capable of doing the work. It really pissed us off Cheesy We won't ask for donations, do an ICO, or any other sort of mass fund raising until we are close to a releasable product.
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June 12, 2018, 09:27:00 AM
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kamiyama:
We aren't doing an ICO, or an airdrop, and it will be months before we do anything.

Vite costs fees, and their HDPoS is looking to again be a heavily centralized consensus algorithm. We also won't focus on adding a smart contract platform.

BitPotus:
I'm actually a developer myself, and I've already gotten the PoW blockchain running (not networked yet though). I'm also partway through implementing SECP256k1 keys.

There was a project called Stone that got half a million for rephrasing a blog post on zkSnarks. They did no work and never proved they were capable of doing the work. It really pissed us off Cheesy We won't ask for donations, do an ICO, or any other sort of mass fund raising until we are close to a releasable product.

Stone was an obvious scam by David Wilkinson.

Only noobs fell for it.

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June 15, 2018, 11:58:50 AM
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I'm not saying it wasn't obvious. I'm saying it was a scam. Until we have viable code, we will not do any sort of mass fundraising. That is our pledge  Wink
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July 10, 2018, 03:00:59 PM
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The ideal cryptocurrency characteristics you listed are only the result of a characteristic that is the basis of all of Nick Szabo's charactersitics:  constant value.  Constant value means a certain amount of available (Gibb's) free energy (see Schrondinger's corrected "What is Life?" paper where he detailed what he meant by "negative entropy"). Since it is also a measure of control of other people, constant value is an amount of free energy per person.   

Examples: if the real GDP of a marketplace increases, there is more free energy coming under control.  In order to keep constant value so that prices, wages, and all other contracts in a marketplace to remain valid and enforceable to a common legal tender, the currency must expand and contract with the size of the "GDP". The best measure of "GDP" might be the free energy producible by the commodity infrastructure that uses the currency.  It must also expand and contract inversely with the population that falls under its control.  If there are too many people, employees become less valued so those holding the currency have more control of more people. The great problem is determining how to "fairly" or "properly" issue new coin (or destroy it) when it needs to expand or contract. "Properly" expanding and contracting probably means "in whatever way will lead to more free energy production in the future".  That requires a governing intelligence above (controlling) the "invisible hand" on the macro scale. The marketplace is just micro solutions to the macro goal.  One recent macro goal that has worked well (in terms of its ability to replace other systems) is more even distribution of wealth via democratic governing that subverts the marketplace by robbing from the rich to give to the average via progressive tax laws and equal rights that supply "welfare" such as roads, police/military/fire, education, and social security to all. (Marketplaces otherwise always evolved towards very unequal distribution of wealth and rights).  Commodity-based coins of "old" like Bancor and William Graham's ideas were an attempt to partially solve the problem in a reverse manner: expand and contract the free energy via massive commodity storage and release when prices and wages started changing.
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August 20, 2018, 04:01:15 AM
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I only came here to grab some old text; the project actually rebranded and is looking at getting a private testnet up in a few weeks. Sorry for missing your reply, zawy (by the way, I am a big fan of your difficulty algorithm; was surprised to see your account had such low activity but it appears to be you).

For some reason, this seems like the wrong post, since it was around a month old and the first part about characteristics seems relevant but then you go into a... 'macro' explanation Wink of the first part without connecting it back.

That said, in an attempt to respond, we do care about how coins are created and how it'll grow, as we hope for it to become a major player. The coin doesn't have a maximum supply, and its equivalent of a block reward is based on a negative sigmoid. There's a maximum and a minimum, but the more hash power, the less of a reward (more hash power is a generally a response to a higher coin value) and the less hash power, the more of a reward.
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