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April 02, 2022, 12:29:18 PM
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I usually use filter and remove simulated reality sports game and cyber sports game like basketball and football even if they are controlled by two people. I don't trust them and only stick and rely to the real sports and provably fair games. I am not sure but there is an instinct in me that those game were not fair as real sports and in house games.
Same here , because the thrill is not there , the reality seems like becoming computer generated from my perspective

I rather bet in Tennis(in which not my favorite) than to go in Simulated reality game.

maybe we all have our own looks in gambling and both of us have the same.
Despite the provably fair were undoubtfully there , people will feel cheated when they lost.

i believe everyone especially the newcomer who gamble irresponsibly would always feel this way , that is the fact. just give it a try , the thrill is there but with different feel , unlike the real match .. this siulated reality games always take a blame when things went really wrong like ... a winning from 1-0 to 1-6 .. that is insane indeed but in the real match that could happened too. so yeah you better stay away if you can't be responsible enough.

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April 02, 2022, 12:33:51 PM
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Its possible the reason these games are promoted is because the data feed for the results is more cheaply supplied then conventional betting.   The margins might be better for the provider and if enough people bet then its worth listing.

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April 02, 2022, 01:32:27 PM
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And even more likely that the outcome of the game can be changed at any time because the source code of the AI is not in the public domain and can not be read, which is quite rightly causes fears betting fans. The betting community is getting more and more used to the standards set by cryptocurrencies so they interact less and less in an environment that requires trust as it brings additional risks to their funds.

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April 02, 2022, 01:59:25 PM
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I've heard about these games, but honestly I don't know how they work, I don't understand what is the advantage of betting on these games while we have a variety of real game options to play and finally, I trust the honesty of whoever is promoting these games much less. games really be someone fair, who is not manipulating the results.
I don't know why they invent so much in gambling these days, at this point I stay away from it.

A possibly easier way for betters to use data to handle matches. As well as letting them create simulation matches by adding a bunch of random factors that wouldn't exactly happen in the real match, so basically creating a "what if" scenario in that match, making it more exciting and at the same time different from the original match that it was referenced from (or at least, to make it not as simple as a battle of numbers). It's honestly not a bad idea imo, just that there's too many ways to take advantage of it imo.

 
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April 02, 2022, 04:23:37 PM
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What is your opinion?

I've heard about these games, but honestly I don't know how they work, I don't understand what is the advantage of betting on these games while we have a variety of real game options to play and finally, I trust the honesty of whoever is promoting these games much less. games really be someone fair, who is not manipulating the results.
I don't know why they invent so much in gambling these days, at this point I stay away from it.

IMO, there are no such thing as good and bad in doing gambling as long as you're not seeing it as your primary source of income as that's where the greediness starts to take over your mind instead of just doing it as a past time or for entertainment. For me, gambling is just like an investment, only do invest/gamble such amounts that you could afford to lose.

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I don't know why they invent so much in gambling these days, at this point I stay away from it.
These gambling acts has becoming quite a trend especially in the internet now, I think it started on 2019 when Covid first struck us. Either way, this gambling industries will continue to grow and it's inevitable.

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April 02, 2022, 10:41:50 PM
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And even more likely that the outcome of the game can be changed at any time because the source code of the AI is not in the public domain and can not be read, which is quite rightly causes fears betting fans. The betting community is getting more and more used to the standards set by cryptocurrencies so they interact less and less in an environment that requires trust as it brings additional risks to their funds.
I think that is the biggest problem that people have with it, the cryptocurrency casinos have set new standards in the gambling industry and now gamblers want to bee able to verify on their own that the results they are getting are in fact random and the casino is not cheating them, and if this is not possible then this creates distrust among the gamblers, and with good reason, after all if you make a big bet on an event you do not want to exist even the smallest possibility that the game could be rigged, something that is not impossible to rule out with those simulated games.
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April 02, 2022, 10:55:52 PM
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I don't know why they invent so much in gambling these days, at this point I stay away from it.
These gambling acts has becoming quite a trend especially in the internet now, I think it started on 2019 when Covid first struck us. Either way, this gambling industries will continue to grow and it's inevitable.
Yes, they'll make as much as they can if the demand asks for it. They'll invest, reinvent and make more conventional games that they think that shall be liken the market.
I've never been and played into simulated games but I think that's how it goes when you really get bored and you're looking for some actions when most were in their homes during the lock down.

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April 02, 2022, 11:30:32 PM
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And even more likely that the outcome of the game can be changed at any time because the source code of the AI is not in the public domain and can not be read, which is quite rightly causes fears betting fans. The betting community is getting more and more used to the standards set by cryptocurrencies so they interact less and less in an environment that requires trust as it brings additional risks to their funds.
This is the core reason i am not confident in wagging a bet in simulated games because you are not able to verify the games and i have not idea whether the matches are rigged and yet what surprises me is that there are many that wages huge bets on these matches and i am yet to understand the basic technique in making these predictions in simulated games.
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April 02, 2022, 11:39:54 PM
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but I think that's how it goes when you really get bored and you're looking for some actions when most were in their homes during the lock down.

Sometimes the game may really reduce boredom that's what attracts many people to hook up with the game because you don't really need a second player. The game is getting popular by the day because of some of the features that the game has .

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April 03, 2022, 02:18:25 AM
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I'm not sure if it's trusted or not, but I think the simulation means they're doing an experiment where they can set up everything they need. If we talk about the result, perhaps it was predicted before the game that team A or B should win based on their data, so they will try to arrange it all. But it could be different from the reality they will see later. But I guess it's still not worth it because it's just a simulation, and it's better if we don't try it. Maybe if you're curious, you can give it a try to see what the simulation looks like.

I think when we hear about simulated realty games, the first thing that pops into my head are pre-performed games that are already done. It just so happens that the company or platform streaming would choose which game to showcase or to show in the media.

Like what most have mentioned, this kind of practice is subject heavily to manipulation since games are already decided on their part. If word spills out that manipulation and game rigging were to be done, then this could cost heavily on the reputation of the website.

I personally recommend avoiding simulated reality games. Though you can at least try it, but I advised against it.
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April 03, 2022, 01:11:28 PM
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but I think that's how it goes when you really get bored and you're looking for some actions when most were in their homes during the lock down.

Sometimes the game may really reduce boredom that's what attracts many people to hook up with the game because you don't really need a second player. The game is getting popular by the day because of some of the features that the game has .
It goes by the usual game that we've been used to but I think that everyone would get into the typical games or sports that we've been a fan of.
Trying out something new like with the simulated ones is also fun depending on the gambler's perspective if he or she is really enjoying on it.

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April 03, 2022, 01:59:19 PM
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I frequently see these "simulated reality" games (SRI) listed together with conventional matches.  Huh
As gambler I can think of a lot of questions...

Are these trusted services? Is the result already foreseen before a match or is it managed according to the bets?
Is there a single provider of these encounters or are there multiple services that provide this series of matches?

What is your opinion?

It seems like technology has come a long way in the last few years, so there is a lot of potential for games like this. There is a place in my country you can visit with a large warehouse which supplies you with virtual / augmented reality headsets and you can move around a physical location while "shooting" virtual enemies. What is really needed is a system which can allow you to stay in one place but feel the effects of moving around so it syncs up with what you're seeing, but these seem to be in the early stages or cost a lot of money. It could even be used for all sorts of training down the line and it might even get rather scary with some games because VR projections can be super high definition.

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April 03, 2022, 02:49:11 PM
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but I think that's how it goes when you really get bored and you're looking for some actions when most were in their homes during the lock down.

Sometimes the game may really reduce boredom that's what attracts many people to hook up with the game because you don't really need a second player. The game is getting popular by the day because of some of the features that the game has .
It goes by the usual game that we've been used to but I think that everyone would get into the typical games or sports that we've been a fan of.
Trying out something new like with the simulated ones is also fun depending on the gambler's perspective if he or she is really enjoying on it.
As long as he can enjoy it, he can still play his favorite game and if it's a simulation game, maybe he needs to get used to it first before he bets on the actual game. Simulation games can help him get to know a certain type of game more deeply so that when he starts with the real game, he will not be surprised or he will know what to do. But if a person is bored with the game he is used to playing, it looks like he really needs to take a break because instead of trying another game, it could cost him a lot of losses.

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April 03, 2022, 04:49:30 PM
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I personally hate Simulated Reality based games because they defy logic and the past data and are completely random. I have seen certain players losing to some opponents against whom they have never lost in real life.

Look, I am not against simulated gambling but they are charging the same house edge as of real sports and the gambling itself is more like casino where the result is random. Why would you play casino at such a high house edge? I would rather roll the dice at 1% house edge than bet on a simulated game that has the same mechanism but charges 8% or so house edge. Plus the casino game is at least provably fair while simulated is never fair not played in real.
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April 03, 2022, 04:55:04 PM
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I frequently see these "simulated reality" games (SRI) listed together with conventional matches.  Huh
As gambler I can think of a lot of questions...

Are these trusted services? Is the result already foreseen before a match or is it managed according to the bets?
Is there a single provider of these encounters or are there multiple services that provide this series of matches?

What is your opinion?

Sorry not to answer your question, but rather to ask about that "service". Unfortunately, I couldn't find anywhere anything like you described.

Could somone please provide a link to such a simulation of reality game?

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April 03, 2022, 05:42:16 PM
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I personally hate Simulated Reality based games because they defy logic and the past data and are completely random. I have seen certain players losing to some opponents against whom they have never lost in real life.

Look, I am not against simulated gambling but they are charging the same house edge as of real sports and the gambling itself is more like casino where the result is random. Why would you play casino at such a high house edge? I would rather roll the dice at 1% house edge than bet on a simulated game that has the same mechanism but charges 8% or so house edge. Plus the casino game is at least provably fair while simulated is never fair not played in real.

Yes.It’s my point too.Because in a real life the player will had a stamina and performance against the opponent.So it’s not a possible one for them.The result of Simulated Reality based games are different from the real one.It was like by few people.Because he may be addicted to certain boxer,in a real game that boxer won’t win lb high then him.But in this gambling it was a possible one.



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April 03, 2022, 08:15:17 PM
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I personally hate Simulated Reality based games because they defy logic and the past data and are completely random. I have seen certain players losing to some opponents against whom they have never lost in real life.

Look, I am not against simulated gambling but they are charging the same house edge as of real sports and the gambling itself is more like casino where the result is random. Why would you play casino at such a high house edge? I would rather roll the dice at 1% house edge than bet on a simulated game that has the same mechanism but charges 8% or so house edge. Plus the casino game is at least provably fair while simulated is never fair not played in real.
I honestly agree with you, simulated reality can never be compared to real reality, aside all you've said, simulated reality games also appears really boring to me, because they are a direct opposite of what the real games are, this is one of the reasons I rather be in the stadium watching the match live than watch it on TV, I even wonder how simulated reality games became a form of sports.

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April 03, 2022, 09:28:34 PM
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I personally hate Simulated Reality based games because they defy logic and the past data and are completely random. I have seen certain players losing to some opponents against whom they have never lost in real life.

Look, I am not against simulated gambling but they are charging the same house edge as of real sports and the gambling itself is more like casino where the result is random. Why would you play casino at such a high house edge? I would rather roll the dice at 1% house edge than bet on a simulated game that has the same mechanism but charges 8% or so house edge. Plus the casino game is at least provably fair while simulated is never fair not played in real.
I honestly agree with you, simulated reality can never be compared to real reality, aside all you've said, simulated reality games also appears really boring to me, because they are a direct opposite of what the real games are, this is one of the reasons I rather be in the stadium watching the match live than watch it on TV, I even wonder how simulated reality games became a form of sports.
It is like we compare the online gambling to the real world gambling. Real world gambling is still more enjoyable because you can see a real crowd inside the casino but in online, your the only one that plays in your room. You can't do anything for now because the pandemic hit us and people are now restricted to go to the crowded areas.

Simulated reality games are not a sports but they can be a collection of sports games. A real definition of sports is something that it is played on the real world. With that explanation of @stepwilli above, this will give gamblers a new reason to avoid this game. I feel bad for those who invented this game.

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April 03, 2022, 09:45:53 PM
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I personally hate Simulated Reality based games because they defy logic and the past data and are completely random. I have seen certain players losing to some opponents against whom they have never lost in real life.

Look, I am not against simulated gambling but they are charging the same house edge as of real sports and the gambling itself is more like casino where the result is random. Why would you play casino at such a high house edge? I would rather roll the dice at 1% house edge than bet on a simulated game that has the same mechanism but charges 8% or so house edge. Plus the casino game is at least provably fair while simulated is never fair not played in real.
I honestly agree with you, simulated reality can never be compared to real reality, aside all you've said, simulated reality games also appears really boring to me, because they are a direct opposite of what the real games are, this is one of the reasons I rather be in the stadium watching the match live than watch it on TV, I even wonder how simulated reality games became a form of sports.
It is like we compare the online gambling to the real world gambling. Real world gambling is still more enjoyable because you can see a real crowd inside the casino but in online, your the only one that plays in your room. You can't do anything for now because the pandemic hit us and people are now restricted to go to the crowded areas.

Simulated reality games are not a sports but they can be a collection of sports games. A real definition of sports is something that it is played on the real world. With that explanation of @stepwilli above, this will give gamblers a new reason to avoid this game. I feel bad for those who invented this game.

Don't make a conclusion yet because simulated reality games are just starting.
And I believe, they can always get patrons for this type of game.
As many don't want to mingle with people in public, this game will get their niche in this gaming industry.
And also, just want to point out also that there are pros and cons of online casinos.
But people realize a lot of its benefits during this pandemic period, and some are still appreciating those benefits up until today.
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April 04, 2022, 08:00:13 AM
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Sorry not to answer your question, but rather to ask about that "service". Unfortunately, I couldn't find anywhere anything like you described.

Could somone please provide a link to such a simulation of reality game?

In sports they are usually called Simulated Reality Leagues, because they not only simulate individual games rather the whole leagues and many games in there. It's not real matches, they use historical data for the teams and matches, but the games itself are randomly generated. The biggest markets are football and cricket matches, you can check them out here:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/cricket/simulated-reality-league/matches/future

This is just betting on the games, it's not like you can watch the whole game on your TV. There can be graphical imagines of the games but they are all created after the games are simulated and only die illustration purposes. It must sound very strange to someone who hasn't heard about it before. There quite a lot of people really into that alternative reality games. It gives the opportunity to have many more games per week which would never be possible with real life players. We
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