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March 22, 2022, 03:36:33 PM
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As many of you know, I have a website/blog I post articles on. It has been dormant for a few months, but now I am starting to write more content on them.

I also have a small mailing list where I write more or less about cryptocurrency - educational mails with links back to my website.

Now for the question - Is it allowed for me for post several weeks-old messages from my mailing list to the forum? These messages are not copy-pasted or even edited from my website and hence are unique but very old content. And obviously since I'm just copying myself it's not plagiarism - I just don't want to trip any spam rules (again, not that any of my mailing list content is low-quality!)

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March 22, 2022, 03:40:12 PM
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Now for the question - Is it allowed for me for post several weeks-old messages from my mailing list to the forum? These messages are not copy-pasted or even edited from my website and hence are unique but very old content. And obviously since I'm just copying myself it's not plagiarism - I just don't want to trip any spam rules (again, not that any of my mailing list content is low-quality!)
As long as you give source of the article and it has value to the community then I do not see any problem. There are users who just make one a two lines and leave it with a link, seems spam to me but in your case I will looking forward to read instead of just giving the the url and complete the reading there.

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March 22, 2022, 03:49:27 PM
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I just don't want to trip any spam rules (again, not that any of my mailing list content is low-quality!)

If the content is useful/informative, I don't see any problem.
I consider spam only if the only real reason for the post is the back link to the website: overly often posted weak articles (or too short fragments of those). I think that it won't be the case.

Even more: if you'd start getting some of those posts removed, then you could start worrying. But not before Wink

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March 22, 2022, 03:51:32 PM
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Cite where you got the information from just to be sure but I think you should be able to prove it was yours anyway if someone does mention it's plagiarised.

Normally mentioning links on sites like this allow it to get found by search engines too (as they crawl this website) so it's probably advantageous to link where the content was coming from anyway.

But yeah I'd check you're getting discussion from them after posting the first few just to make sure it doesn't look spammy (as mods are quick to delete low quality posts).
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There is no problem posting them since you said it's unique unless that old content is from expired domains?

I saw some people on another forum doing this by copy-pasting the old content from the old expired domain to their forum or new website and claim as its own content. But if the content is created by you then I think there is no problem posting them here.

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March 22, 2022, 04:02:22 PM
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I consider spam only if the only real reason for the post is the back link to the website: overly often posted weak articles (or too short fragments of those). I think that it won't be the case.

Bitcointalk makes all links inside posts no-follow (at least that's how it was the last time I checked) so this isn't a concern.

But yeah I'd check you're getting discussion from them after posting the first few just to make sure it doesn't look spammy (as mods are quick to delete low quality posts).

Noted, thanks.

There is no problem posting them since you said it's unique unless that old content is from expired domains?

notatether.com (my domain) is clearly not an expired domain, do a WHOIS search Smiley

I saw some people on another forum doing this by copy-pasting the old content from the old expired domain to their forum or new website and claim as its own content.

Yeah I don't have any of that BS here because the mailing list is sent from an email account with my domain name on it, so I can prove that I sent the mailing list emails anyway.

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March 22, 2022, 04:48:17 PM
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Posting the source link is enough and won't be considered as plagiarism but you can always insert the content you're copying from your own website inside
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And add extra context which required for discussion in the thread.

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Is it allowed for me for post several weeks-old messages from my mailing list to the forum?
I don't see a problem with it, and I don't even think quote tags are required. You could start (or end) with "previously posted on NotATether.com's mailing list", but that might make it look more like spam than without the link.

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These messages are not copy-pasted or even edited from my website and hence are unique but very old content.
The age of the content does not matter at all as long as it is still relevant and accurate.

Just ensure the content is posted in the appropriate board and is done in such a way to create a room for discussions rather than just a wa to get publicity to your website.
Would love to read what you write, or wrote already.

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OP, I think you understand the rules of this forum well even about spam, plagiarism and other stuff. I assume that you know that if you post content from another site, you need the source, but maybe not must from your own site [but attached is better].

I think you are just worried about increasing traffic for your website [my guess] because maybe some people will think that you will take advantage of this forum to increase your site's traffic and profit through advertising. Obviously it will benefit you, but when the content you present is actually quite useful, I don't think you need to worry about that.

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When posting, I would recommend you indicate that the informations been shared aren't originally written presently by citing the source even though they're yours. Firstly your profile is quite valuable and I'm sure there would be some users (probably noobs) that if they come across such it might be of a positive impact.

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As strange as it may seem, you are committing self-plagiarism if you reuse your work from previous classes or degrees without appropriate citation. If you have made a point or conducted research in one paper that you would like to build on in a later paper, you must cite yourself, just as you would cite the work of others.

Although the forum isn't some professional institute neither are your works (posts) but if you're okay commiting self-plagiarism as typically you're reusing your works then don't cite.

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If you just repost the material you send through your newsletter or mailing list, I am not sure how can be proved whether it is plagiarism or not. received mail is somehow a personal matter after all, and none of us can have a real legit insight into the content of the email.
certainly, with every such post here, I would write some kind of explanation of the source and that the original text is the property of your site. in addition to being protected from any suspicion of plagiarism, you will also get some kind of promotion. I guess that can't be against the forum rules.

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You could start (or end) with "previously posted on NotATether.com's mailing list", but that might make it look more like spam than without the link.

Yeah, I'm not sure if that's even possible since there's no such thing as a permalink to an email.

I think you are just worried about increasing traffic for your website [my guess] because maybe some people will think that you will take advantage of this forum to increase your site's traffic and profit through advertising. Obviously it will benefit you, but when the content you present is actually quite useful, I don't think you need to worry about that.

I don't have advertising on my website (yet) - traffic levels are currently way too low for that. I do admit that this is ultimately supposed to increase traffic though - I've been trying lately to get users to stay on my website because the vast majority just come from Google Search, stay for a minute or two, and then leave and never return:




(and strangely, the majority of search queries are for "wallets" and "hardware wallets" - I clearly need to diversify that.)

If you just repost the material you send through your newsletter or mailing list, I am not sure how can be proved whether it is plagiarism or not. received mail is somehow a personal matter after all, and none of us can have a real legit insight into the content of the email.

I think Mailchimp lets me download a copy of emails I send through the mailing list, but I never tried it before.

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March 23, 2022, 12:14:39 PM
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I'm not sure if that's even possible since there's no such thing as a permalink to an email.
That's easy to fix if you create your own archive of the mailing list. Like this example.

I think Mailchimp lets me download a copy of emails I send through the mailing list, but I never tried it before.
A quick search ("create archive of mailing list") shows many options.

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If sources to the mailing lists are available i think you have full license to repost them on the forum. But you will likely lose your total privacy except you don't care much about your privacy on the forum. A post made even by an original author on a different site needs to be referenced else it will still be classified as plagiarism because as  anonymous as the forum is no one knows who owns what.
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I saw some people on another forum doing this by copy-pasting the old content from the old expired domain to their forum or new website and claim as its own content. But if the content is created by you then I think there is no problem posting them here.
Hi there what if it comes from another forum but its your own content that you wish to post in here. Is that fine as well? Of course the ownership of that account in that forum will be quoted there for verification. Would that be considered copy pasting, Im asking just in case Ive activated my account or resume posting on another forum since Ive stopped posting on that forum.

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If sources to the mailing lists are available i think you have full license to repost them on the forum. But you will likely lose your total privacy except you don't care much about your privacy on the forum. A post made even by an original author on a different site needs to be referenced else it will still be classified as plagiarism because as  anonymous as the forum is no one knows who owns what.

I'm already doxxed so that isn't a problem either (I am not anonymous, my website links back to my bitcointalk profile).

Hi there what if it comes from another forum but its your own content that you wish to post in here. Is that fine as well? Of course the ownership of that account in that forum will be quoted there for verification. Would that be considered copy pasting, Im asking just in case Ive activated my account or resume posting on another forum since Ive stopped posting on that forum.

Well, I did see a case of one guy who mistakenly got banned for re-posting his messages from Reddit, so it's best to include a notice of attibution in your re-posts.

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Well, I did see a case of one guy who mistakenly got banned for re-posting his messages from Reddit, so it's best to include a notice of attibution in your re-posts.
Okay yeah better be. In addition to thr verification, since it could be mistaken by the copy paste bots hunter here. Im sure there are some whom hunting those plagiarize content whom posted here. Maybe just dont forget thr reference part for safety.

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I'm already doxxed
Good luck and my good wish is with you.

I will agree with most of the users here. There are no problem if you want to re-post them but to avoid unpleasant experience for example temp ban or even mistakenly getting banned please be sure to be careful enough. Always give the source link and make it visible enough for others to know the contents were cited.

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Well, I personally have done this here a couple of times without problems, that I sometimes repost some of my post on Facebook here, but then, I've never done this without adding a reference link maybe at the bottom or top, this way, users gets to know that the post has been made somewhere else and do not tag it as plagiarism even though the original post was made by me.

So I personally think there should be no problems as long as you reference the original post even though it's owned by you.

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I'm already doxxed
Good luck and my good wish is with you.

I will agree with most of the users here. There are no problem if you want to re-post them but to avoid unpleasant experience for example temp ban or even mistakenly getting banned please be sure to be careful enough. Always give the source link and make it visible enough for others to know the contents were cited.

How about putting this notice in small text at the bottom of those posts?


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How about putting this notice in small text at the bottom of those posts?


This post was previously sent on the NotATether.com mailing list. If you have any doubts about the source of this post, please send a PM to NotATether directly.
You are free how you will use it but my suggestion, just to ensure that it's easily visible and readable clearly. You don't want mods to take any action or get confused to apply any ban or temp ban or such things when they receive reports from the users who reports constantly.

If I was you then I would use the same text at the top then I would start whatever I was planning to cite.

Good luck brother!

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I would add the red part (but in black).

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I saw a user on the forum from the previous year who seemed to have been accused of plagiarism over this  and it was accurate at that. The report was filed in accurately by lovesmayfamilis  until further proves were presented to ensure, the owner of the said blog was also the owner of the account on the forum and indeed the original poster and therefore  notified the accusation when proved extensively.

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* Editing said post on blog site
* To input certain details
* To send edited proof on the forum

Hence, by your forum user not being the same as on your blog site, these complications could always arise and it doesn't make the reporter wrong as, the identities are different at that point. Therefore, you might be subjected to indeed prove the articles and publications are yours until your known  to be the owner of said blog.

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Hence, by your forum user not being the same as on your blog site, these complications could always arise and it doesn't make the reporter wrong as, the identities are different at that point. Therefore, you might be subjected to indeed prove the articles and publications are yours until your known  to be the owner of said blog.

Thanks for the input, but my blog username as well as my website name is also NotATether, so people should get the hint. It's like Theymos using the same username to post on Reddit.



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Well, I did see a case of one guy who mistakenly got banned for re-posting his messages from Reddit, so it's best to include a notice of attibution in your re-posts.
I think it happened a few years ago. We might be thinking of the same user. If I remember it correctly, he used a different reddit username, but the name of your site is the same as your Bitcointalk profile name. Even if someone were to check the source of the content (in case you create an achieve of your emails), they will figure out it's the same person. The banned reddit guy was also brand-new on Bitcointalk and hence suspicious, you aren't. But like most people already suggested in the previous posts, there really isn't a reason why you shouldn't mention that you are the original content creator and add a link to where the post came from.   

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