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March 27, 2022, 02:24:53 PM
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The difference between competitive production costs within your country, or your products becoming overpriced abroad is perhaps not about nominal inflation or deflation, but how people react to it.


You sell your product for X amount of BTC, then exchange rate has doubled. Is there any reaction that efficiently stops deflation in that case?


Who has pricing power, will workers go on strike and demand more increase than current inflation, or will they just do nothing about it.

What I'm trying to tell you, is that with deflation you will loose the market due to high prices and your workers will go home. What they can do with deflation? Make a strike to lower their salaries or what?


In deflationary spiral, the country could also buy products and labour for cheap from countries that have printed too much fiat. In the end, nothing will be permanently overpriced due to deflation.


It is so funny to see many people here seriously thinking that inflation is only about money printing Smiley

So this is how you think the perfect crypto economy should work?  You are having a deflating currency and you can just sit tight, scratch your balls and order all goods and services from abroad for BTC profits.
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March 30, 2022, 01:16:09 PM
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The scenario is with no other currency present, so your goods will cost the same as long as the manufacturing process is the same, bitcoin will no longer grow in price as there is no longer such thing as BTC price.
No. In such scenario we still got another currencies in another countries in order to have a global competition on markets. Therefore, exchange rates would remain.
it is highly unlikely that BTC become a single payment method worldwide, we shouldn't count on such scenario.

Let me remind you how this topic started:

The deflationary spiral argument goes as following: Let's imagine an economy that only uses Bitcoin, solely, as currency.

We are talking about one thing, just how we can talk about how expensive is it to heat your house with garbage if you don't have gas, coming in and saying that is inefficient and we should use gas is not about the subject and scenario at hand. Stick to what this is about, not what if, can't be, it shouldn't, not possible, no way, let me tell you otherwise.

So how should it decrease?
Imagine people in country A (this country already have its economy, production, import and export etc) decided to switch to BTC only. Since they are trading with another countries they have all production costs in BTC and they are selling everything for BTC while country B (which pays with their own money) is having continuously increasing prices. In the end, you only your products way overpriced in the world market just because you have switched to BTC.

Again, you're going outside the proposed scenario.
Simply put:
You produce 7 billion things of stuff x, 7 billion of stuff y, 7 million of billion z, all for 21 million coins in circulation.
Fast forward, the earth doubles in population, you produce 14 billion of stuff x, y, z, all for 21 million coins in circulation.
What do you think will happen to the prices expressed in BTC ?

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