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April 01, 2022, 06:16:20 AM
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I took the bait and their method is literally just a modified form of martingale. Their "mathematical" proof is just the odds of going on a losing streak of x length and was calculated incorrectly. Even if it was calculated correctly, they don't seem to understand that your chance of encountering such a long streak increases the more bets you place, and that you'll eventually go bankrupt when playing at a casino with a house edge.

There's a reason they don't have money to use their "exploit".

Are you just joking because it's fool's day?

For those of us who have some experience in the world of gambling and understand mathematics, with concepts such as EV, apart from having spent a long time in forums and having seen many scam attempts and incredible offers like this one, it is clear at first glance that what the OP offers, or is a scam or if he offers it sincerely is something like what you explain, based on martingale.

The only doubt I have is whether you have tested it in some way or are just joking.

Neither, OP initially PMed asking for a loan or help executing his strategy to quickly make money. They didn't mention gambling and I was bored so I figured might as well entertain them and see what they have to offer ("taking the bait"). I did not test the strategy nor do I need to because it's obviously not profitable. I'm not sure if OP is either just dumb or is trying to scam someone out of some money.

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April 01, 2022, 06:17:52 AM
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Why ask for someone to gamble for you where you can use your own strategy and take 100% of profit on your own?

There’s no such things like this, stop spreading this kind of scheme because no one will fall for this trap. This is gambling and we know how it works, consistently win money in gambling is not possible.

You have caught the point . If he can really do that, then he can make a profit by doing these things himself .I don't think there is any legal exploit here, He is just thinking of making some money illegally.  Any madman will give him money .AskyaMaddar Don't worry, brother, no one will fall into your trap.

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April 01, 2022, 06:31:58 AM
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Neither, OP initially PMed asking for a loan or help executing his strategy to quickly make money. They didn't mention gambling and I was bored so I figured might as well entertain them and see what they have to offer ("taking the bait"). I did not test the strategy nor do I need to because it's obviously not profitable. I'm not sure if OP is either just dumb or is trying to scam someone out of some money.

Well, if it is a modified form of martingale, I am not surprised that you did not test the strategy.

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April 01, 2022, 07:33:02 AM
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Hey i found a vulnerability in a gambling website that allows you to consistently win money.
No bs. With a bot $$$ 100k a day (can prove mathematically)
The problem is i need atleast 20k.

Are there any high rep members willing to work together on this? I just ask for shares in profits.


Are you sure this is "legal"? Have you verified TOS of this casino/website?
if you are able to force "vulnerability" I am not sure you are acting legally and this casino could allow this kind of action. More over, even you can claim such win, you are not sure it can be withdraw, there are always controls and you're risking to waist time (and resources).
I don't think trusted/reputable users will help for such action.
Try to reach the owner of casino explaining this "vulnerability". You can earn a bug bounty and it's definitely better at this point.
 

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April 01, 2022, 08:28:54 AM
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I've been thinking and I think that the alleged system is even more garbage than it might at first appear.

The martingale is a garbage so-called strategy in which, apart from having more and more chances of finding an unfavorable long streak, the most relevant thing is that you risk more and more capital to earn very little, especially with respect to the increasing capital that you are risking, and if we take rake into account, we are on a sure path to bankruptcy.

The OP says he needs $20K, but he is not going to gamble it all on the first bet. Let's say he starts with $1K at double or nothing and a rake of 5%. If he wins, he makes $950 net. But let's assume he loses, then on the second play he doubles the bet. If he wins, he will win $1.9K net (or 3.9K gross) on that bet, but we have to count that he has bet a total of $3K between the first and second plays, so what he has won net after the two bets is $900. And so on. Third bet would be $4K. If he wins he wins $7.8K, but the net total profit taking into account the three bets would be $800. He could also win the first bet but the chances of losing the second are pretty high (50%).

I know OP's modified martingale system won't be exactly like that, and the rake could be lower etc. but all martingale variants are the same garbage.

There is no way he is going to be able to make $100K a day with a starting capital of $20K. I'm going to leave him a neutral tag, for the time being, because I doubt if he's just naive rather than a scammer intentionally trying to scam people.


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April 01, 2022, 11:12:44 AM
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If you are going to exploit it and make money out of it, that I think is illegal and $20k? I don't think any trusted users here would give or lend you $20k, why won't you just report it to the gambling site and ask for a bounty reward for finding an exploit that would cost them much money and you should give more clear information such as what kind of game or what gambling site it is.

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April 01, 2022, 11:17:57 AM
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Hey i found a vulnerability in a gambling website that allows you to consistently win money.
No bs. With a bot $$$ 100k a day (can prove mathematically)
The problem is i need atleast 20k.

Are there any high rep members willing to work together on this? I just ask for shares in profits.


If you're a programmer, make use of your skills, rather than exploiting a weakness, you'll be able to sustain yourself for a long time. If you find a bug, report it and make a deal with them, you never know, you might be hired to take care of security patches, and even if they don't offer you a job, they might refer you to another casino software as a recommendation.
Can you guarantee that the so-called Bots you designed will ensure the safety of the capital you're requesting? It's possible that the casino will halt your withdrawals as soon as they notice the designed model isn't working as it should.

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April 01, 2022, 11:24:44 AM
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Hey i found a vulnerability in a gambling website that allows you to consistently win money.
No bs. With a bot $$$ 100k a day (can prove mathematically)
The problem is i need atleast 20k.
WOW! I can't believe scammers still use this kind of scam tactic. only a moron would fall for this.

Are there any high rep members willing to work together on this? I just ask for shares in profits.
too bad for you I doubt you'll find high rep members willing to work with you. the forum is riddled with scams like this. I still can't believe you think this kind of scam would work.

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April 01, 2022, 11:28:03 AM
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So their "can prove mathematically" was just modified martingale. I think his method was placing a small bets and $20K would be able to cover it. I am sure that either the OP is dumb thinking he can scam some user here or he has just have some good sense of humor and this is just part of the April fool jokes?

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April 01, 2022, 11:40:53 AM
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I don't know who is willing to work with you because it's very risky where we don't know how long the site won't know about the loophole. In addition, the amount of money that must be bet is very large and not everyone plays gambling that much. Even though he is a man with a lot of money, I don't think he will also be willing to work with you because on the internet, we don't know who is a friend and who is a foe.

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April 01, 2022, 11:47:46 AM
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Hey i found a vulnerability in a gambling website that allows you to consistently win money.
No bs. With a bot $$$ 100k a day (can prove mathematically)
The problem is i need atleast 20k.

Are there any high rep members willing to work together on this? I just ask for shares in profits.


The answer is a big no because you only have words to show us with no proof that it really exists, you should do better  than posting you want $20k and you even have the nerve to ask for high rep members, better work yourself if this is true you do not undermine people here that will take your bait.

I think everyone present is misinterpreting. Im not asking for the money. I plan on showing how its done first and if they approve/validate we work together.

You should include this on the first post you clearly posted that you need $20k and why would you share it when you can do it alone ask your relatives for money or get a loan if you are confident that there's a chance to make money here through a vulnerability this could only mean that you are not really sure because if you are sure you will not share this and make money first before sharing it.
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Since when an exploit becomes legal? as what I have read the OP was selling a strategy and not an exploit with a large amount of starting money you would be able to earn from a simple strategy as long as there will be no losing streak which is not impossible so my assumption is that the OP will look for a budget to test his strategy and if it was successful then he will ask for money and if not then he has nothing to lose since it is not his money in the first place that is being used in the gambling site.

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I don't know who is willing to work with you because it's very risky where we don't know how long the site won't know about the loophole. In addition, the amount of money that must be bet is very large and not everyone plays gambling that much. Even though he is a man with a lot of money, I don't think he will also be willing to work with you because on the internet, we don't know who is a friend and who is a foe.

OP is making a picture like there is a guarantee with gambling like every stake done will lead to profit all the time. Bots giving 100k is no guarantee , maybe you show prove of that. Meanwhile what are you asking for 20k for? This story comes like it is an April fool adventure that is not leading anywhere.

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April 01, 2022, 12:31:04 PM
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Hey i found a vulnerability in a gambling website that allows you to consistently win money.
No bs. With a bot $$$ 100k a day (can prove mathematically)
The problem is i need atleast 20k.

Are there any high rep members willing to work together on this? I just ask for shares in profits.


Any fraud will be discovered sooner or later and the fraudster will be punished as he deserves. I recommend that you do not commit fraudulent actions, because you may not only lose your money, but you may also incur legal liability.
If you found some bug, then it is better for you to contact the representatives of the gambling site and discuss with them the reward for your information.
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Neither, OP initially PMed asking for a loan or help executing his strategy to quickly make money. They didn't mention gambling and I was bored so I figured might as well entertain them and see what they have to offer ("taking the bait"). I did not test the strategy nor do I need to because it's obviously not profitable. I'm not sure if OP is either just dumb or is trying to scam someone out of some money.
The second options find more suitable here because the way he is presenting his words seems he is in obvious scam opportunity worth 20k from any member.

If he has find some bug in the code of the casino he can contact them and as a reward they will automatically give him some good amount so need to ask for money from people.Second it's non ethical way to make money but I know he has not find any such exploits for any gambling website.Even if we assume he has why need 20k? He can easily start with some low amount of betting with his so called strategy without looking for crime partners.You did well by checking some of it and reaching on conclusion not to take part in his fake talks.

I've been thinking and I think that the alleged system is even more garbage than it might at first appear.

The martingale is a garbage so-called strategy in which, apart from having more and more chances of finding an unfavorable long streak, the most relevant thing is that you risk more and more capital to earn very little, especially with respect to the increasing capital that you are risking, and if we take rake into account, we are on a sure path to bankruptcy
Have seen many people aggressively betting with this Martingale strategy betting more after each loss as it states the chances increase of win.But this should be avoided at any cost because you are totally unaware of the outcome like when you will hit the win slot so will you keep going without even bothering about your budget?The only one making profits in this case most of the time is casino due to house edge.

This whole system was started by casino owner and he might be thinking his personal profits before that:

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The system inherited its name after John Henry Martingale, who was an owner of one of the most popular gambling houses in Great Britain at the time.

But the system is those who opted it with modifications also tends to loose in the long run and it should not be done at any cost according to me also but still if someone prefers to play with it it's their responsibility.

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Since when an exploit becomes legal?


It's cheating, I agree with you, there's no such thing as a legal exploit, all exploits are illegal and it's not a work of a good gambler if there is an exploit or bug you should report it and they might reward you for pointing the bug as the majority of casinos and exchanges are offering bug bounty, and if you really want to make money from exploiting this is not the place to ask for money for illegal purposes ask a loan from your relatives if you are confident then use your exploit.

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Even if you are able to exploit the site they will see it in the long run, isn't normal to have users always winning and their first step will be to freeze all the accounts who used the exploit.

So, anyone who tries this will be risking their coins. Be careful.

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Since when an exploit becomes legal?


It's cheating, I agree with you, there's no such thing as a legal exploit, all exploits are illegal and it's not a work of a good gambler if there is an exploit or bug you should report it and they might reward you for pointing the bug as the majority of casinos and exchanges are offering bug bounty, and if you really want to make money from exploiting this is not the place to ask for money for illegal purposes ask a loan from your relatives if you are confident then use your exploit.

It would be legal if the owner or the developer posted it on their site or published it online as a bug bounty. Mostly, this is the legal way to exploit a website, but you really need to report it to get the bounty. I am not sure if this is fully exploited, but I think this is the kind of strategy that you have a higher chance of winning. I don't get the basis mathematically since you haven't seen it work and it is very fishy that you are asking for someone to fund you, but you know you can get that money because it has a high return.
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Even if you can exploit the site they will see it in the long run, isn't normal to have users always winning and their first step will be to freeze all the accounts who used the exploit.

So, anyone who tries this will be risking their coins. Be careful.

I'm sure that it will have a conflict in the end which will also result in damage to your account. You better think twice before grabbing this offer because there are other better strategies that you could apply than to cheat. You'll just waste your coins in the end. It would be wiser if you'll make your own strategy which will be effective while you're enjoying the game at the same time.
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April 01, 2022, 05:49:46 PM
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Hey i found a vulnerability in a gambling website that allows you to consistently win money.
No bs. With a bot $$$ 100k a day (can prove mathematically)
The problem is i need atleast 20k.

Are there any high rep members willing to work together on this? I just ask for shares in profits.

Honestly, I don't think you found anything, if you truely found a vulnerability in a gambling website which allows you or anyone else to make as much as $100k per day, then you would be here looking for who to work with.
And on the other hand, gambling sites aren't decentralized, so if for example you make this $100k from this gambling website by taking advantage of this vulnerability, how do you plan to withdraw the money without them finding out won it through exploiting a vulnerability in their website?

Personally, I think you are here looking for whom to scam, but if I should give you benefit of doubt, then I did say if truly you found a vulnerability in the site which you believe hackers could exploit if they find out, I advice you contact the owners of the gambling website and make this known to them, I strongly believe that they won't let you go without rewarding you based on how useful this information is to them, trust me, doing this is better than trying to exploit them.

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