mining with a generator

[whoisthis]

I've exhausted all the electricity i can use in my house that i'm renting. The landlord won't let me upgrade the panel so i'm seeking for an alternate way to mine.

i need to find a way to mine with about 3800W power. (Moving is not an option for a year or 2).


Would i be able to mine with a gas or gasoline generator in my basement with  no vent?
Do people rent a storage to mine? i'm located in michigan.

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[honeyminingcheng]

How can I control the temperature without a vent? You can try to set up a place similar to a warehouse.

[safar1980]

Household gasoline or gas generators of 5 kilowatts are designed for temporary use, this is a few hours a day and they need to be constantly serviced. Do you need a permit to install a gas generator?

[NeuroticFish]

Would i be able to mine with a gas or gasoline generator in my basement with  no vent?

From what I know, generators are usually very noisy.
From what I know, electricity produced by generators is usually overly expensive, hence most probably not suitable for mining.
And since you have an engine with internal combustion there, you'll need enough oxygen. With no vent, I don't think that's possible.

Also, if you keep the ETH mention in OP this may get moved into altcoin mining.

[Coinfarm ventures]

Even with a natural gas generator, the power will cost at least 11¢/kWh. You're better off finding a small warehouse to rent. Find one with at least 400A 3 phase power for no more than $1500/month of rent. You will get a lower electric rate as well (between 6¢-11¢) for most small commercial service in the U.S. Just check the electric tariff and call the utility to confirm the rate you calculated.

The other problem is these generators aren't designed to run 24/7. You will need to deal with the exhaust. There could be zoning restrictions in your city that ban permanent generators.

[Ivanko88]

I've exhausted all the electricity i can use in my house that i'm renting. The landlord won't let me upgrade the panel so i'm seeking for an alternate way to mine.

i need to find a way to mine with about 3800W power. (Moving is not an option for a year or 2).


Would i be able to mine with a gas or gasoline generator in my basement with  no vent?
Do people rent a storage to mine? i'm located in michigan.

all you need is extra 3800w? Thats not even alot... you could probably get away with changing the fuse in the panel and not telling the landlord and just running it... I know its shady method but you are not hurting anybody... 3800w is probably negligible, and if its not, thats what the fuse is for, it will blow and stop everything.

[Coinfarm ventures]

Why not just simply dial down the power settings of your equipment for better efficiency? You can reduce power usage by 20% while only sacrificing 5-10% in hashrate.

[whoisthis]

I've exhausted all the electricity i can use in my house that i'm renting. The landlord won't let me upgrade the panel so i'm seeking for an alternate way to mine.

i need to find a way to mine with about 3800W power. (Moving is not an option for a year or 2).


Would i be able to mine with a gas or gasoline generator in my basement with  no vent?
Do people rent a storage to mine? i'm located in michigan.

all you need is extra 3800w? Thats not even alot... you could probably get away with changing the fuse in the panel and not telling the landlord and just running it... I know its shady method but you are not hurting anybody... 3800w is probably negligible, and if its not, thats what the fuse is for, it will blow and stop everything.

main amp breaker is 50A and i'm like 3000W or some lower since the breaker has been keep tripping. this is ridiculous. it's not like i have a lot of appliances.
No idea what's spiking that electricity to trip the breaker

[philipma1957]

I've exhausted all the electricity i can use in my house that i'm renting. The landlord won't let me upgrade the panel so i'm seeking for an alternate way to mine.

i need to find a way to mine with about 3800W power. (Moving is not an option for a year or 2).


Would i be able to mine with a gas or gasoline generator in my basement with  no vent?
Do people rent a storage to mine? i'm located in michigan.

yes and you will die from the fumes.

also the basement will over heat as 3800 watts = about 19000 btus.

What gear is it that you want to mine with?

if it is gpus rigs for eth this belongs in alt coins.

BTW 3800 watts for eth makes decent coin. maybe as much as 1.7gh which is  85-90 a day pre power cost.

[Coinfarm ventures]

also the basement will over heat as 3800 watts = about 19000 btus.

It will produce much more heat than that. Most gasoline generators are 25-30% efficient, so the actual heat output will be 11 kW+.

I think the easiest, quickest fix is just for OP to lower power intensity on his machines.

[Ivanko88]

also the basement will over heat as 3800 watts = about 19000 btus.

It will produce much more heat than that. Most gasoline generators are 25-30% efficient, so the actual heat output will be 11 kW+.

I think the easiest, quickest fix is just for OP to lower power intensity on his machines.

Yes it is. Or increase breaker unit component providing cabling capacity allows for it.

[verbakalim]

Mining with a generator doesn't make much sense. First of all, you cannot run the generator 24/7. You should run a certain hour each day and then let this generator rest. Because of this situation, you should buy at least 2 generators. In addition, generators will run noisy and this will create problems in your environment. It is best to move your system to a location where you can use higher electricity.

[safar1980]

Mining with a generator doesn't make much sense. First of all, you cannot run the generator 24/7. You should run a certain hour each day and then let this generator rest. Because of this situation, you should buy at least 2 generators. In addition, generators will run noisy and this will create problems in your environment. It is best to move your system to a location where you can use higher electricity.

Noise can be reduced, I don't think it's an important issue. Residential generators require constant oil and filter changes, and require routine shutdowns. They need to be constantly monitored, or hire an employee to do this. If you have an extra tank of gasoline, barrels of oil, a filter warehouse and an honest worker who will serve it, then you can mine.

[verbakalim]

Mining with a generator doesn't make much sense. First of all, you cannot run the generator 24/7. You should run a certain hour each day and then let this generator rest. Because of this situation, you should buy at least 2 generators. In addition, generators will run noisy and this will create problems in your environment. It is best to move your system to a location where you can use higher electricity.

Noise can be reduced, I don't think it's an important issue. Residential generators require constant oil and filter changes, and require routine shutdowns. They need to be constantly monitored, or hire an employee to do this. If you have an extra tank of gasoline, barrels of oil, a filter warehouse and an honest worker who will serve it, then you can mine.

If it were me, instead of paying for these noise sources, I would rent somewhere else and move some of the system there. Since the power used is halved, the problems disappear to some extent. But this time, two different places, two different internets and two different security situations emerge. It will be a problem again. It makes more sense to move the system to another place where it can use electricity at a higher level.

[safar1980]

Mining with a generator doesn't make much sense. First of all, you cannot run the generator 24/7. You should run a certain hour each day and then let this generator rest. Because of this situation, you should buy at least 2 generators. In addition, generators will run noisy and this will create problems in your environment. It is best to move your system to a location where you can use higher electricity.

Noise can be reduced, I don't think it's an important issue. Residential generators require constant oil and filter changes, and require routine shutdowns. They need to be constantly monitored, or hire an employee to do this. If you have an extra tank of gasoline, barrels of oil, a filter warehouse and an honest worker who will serve it, then you can mine.

If it were me, instead of paying for these noise sources, I would rent somewhere else and move some of the system there. Since the power used is halved, the problems disappear to some extent. But this time, two different places, two different internets and two different security situations emerge. It will be a problem again. It makes more sense to move the system to another place where it can use electricity at a higher level.

Each private house has a permitted limit of electricity consumption. Renting another house can be very expensive if you don't have enough mining equipment to use all the available power.I am looking for garages for this, there is a small power limit, but also inexpensive electricity.

[menoiazei]

  i was watching this generator, is not available to buy yet but seems like an interesting concept and could be used for mining purposes i guess

https://infinitysav.com/magneticgenerator/

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Would i be able to mine with a gas or gasoline generator in my basement with  no vent?
Do people rent a storage to mine? i'm located in michigan.

I don't think a generator is an option. Running it 24/7 would obviously mean you have to service it frequently, on top of catering for the gas costs. Am sure you are aware of the current gas cost. You will most like be mining at a loss, which does not make sense.
Not forgetting that you are putting your life at a risk.

Just shut down mining for now until you are able to use a better alternative when you move to another place. Use the money to just buy bitcoin as you wait.

[Coinfarm ventures]

  i was watching this generator, is not available to buy yet but seems like an interesting concept and could be used for mining purposes i guess

https://infinitysav.com/magneticgenerator/

Here we ago, another 'free energy' scam device...

[philipma1957]

  i was watching this generator, is not available to buy yet but seems like an interesting concept and could be used for mining purposes i guess

https://infinitysav.com/magneticgenerator/

Here we ago, another 'free energy' scam device...

yep it won’t work. if  did they would be every where

[josgandosbro]

Mining is not easy to handle. It lot of processes in the mining process. Before using the mining. Kindly check the mining information. Mining is more power supply. So if use the generator for the mining you will spend for the more fuall.
Use the below mentioned link. It helpful for the mining users.
 https://www.thegeekpub.com/11955/using-dual-power-supplies-mining/

[verbakalim]

Mining is not easy to handle. It lot of processes in the mining process. Before using the mining. Kindly check the mining information. Mining is more power supply. So if use the generator for the mining you will spend for the more fuall.
Use the below mentioned link. It helpful for the mining users.
 https://www.thegeekpub.com/11955/using-dual-power-supplies-mining/

When using a dual power supply, you cannot use the voltage sides of the power supply, such as -12v, +5v, +3.3V. In this case, it means that you are not really using the power supply that you purchased at the apparent power. However, you use the + 12v line and the power it gives you. When buying a power supply, also pay attention to how many outputs the +12v side has.  If there are two separate lines, the system will not work decisively if you do not distribute them evenly between the GPUs.

[Coinfarm ventures]

When using a dual power supply, you cannot use the voltage sides of the power supply, such as -12v, +5v, +3.3V. In this case, it means that you are not really using the power supply that you purchased at the apparent power. However, you use the + 12v line and the power it gives you. When buying a power supply, also pay attention to how many outputs the +12v side has.  If there are two separate lines, the system will not work decisively if you do not distribute them evenly between the GPUs.

You mean power supplies with multiple rails? This is why I prefer PSUs with one huge single 12V rail instead of those with multiple 12V rails. Server supplies are good because they usually have just one beefy rail.

At the very least, the number of rails needs to match the number of video cards. Let's say I have a 1400w PSU with 4 12v rails @ 30A each. I can either power one RTX 3080 Ti on each rail (4 cards total), or two RTX 3060's on each rail (8 cards total). I would not use RTX 3070's unless they are downclocked to RTX 3060 levels.

I'm not worried about this problem with ASICs, since I just use Bitmain or server PSUs.

[Opulence4]

Household gasoline or gas generators of 5 kilowatts are designed for temporary use, this is a few hours a day and they need to be constantly serviced. Do you need a permit to install a gas generator?

In some countries, aspasiolly in CIS the more energy you consume the higher finnal price will be
I also was considering about a particular transfer on industrial generator energy

[safar1980]

Household gasoline or gas generators of 5 kilowatts are designed for temporary use, this is a few hours a day and they need to be constantly serviced. Do you need a permit to install a gas generator?

In some countries, aspasiolly in CIS the more energy you consume the higher finnal price will be
I also was considering about a particular transfer on industrial generator energy

What country in the CIS are you talking about?
In Russia, for 10 cents per kilowatt, you can consume a large amount of electricity. This is the maximum tariff for enterprises, and if you want the price to be 2 times less, then you need to use various tricks.