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April 11, 2022, 11:09:33 PM
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The difference is when the US bombed japan they were the only country on the planet who has nukes so there was no fear of retaliation,nowdays however many countries have nukes of their own so nuking ukrain under the cover of war propaganda is highly risky and could backfire pretty hard for russia.
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April 12, 2022, 02:36:45 AM
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The difference is when the US bombed japan they were the only country on the planet who has nukes so there was no fear of retaliation,nowdays however many countries have nukes of their own so nuking ukrain under the cover of war propaganda is highly risky and could backfire pretty hard for russia.

Exactly. Putin will have to be careful in doing something like this because leaders around the world will despise anyone who nukes today the fact that Ukraine doesn't have a nuke.  Presumably Putin is already in the advantage position regarding this war so he wouldn't have the thoughts of destroying Ukraine to ash because he wants the country to still be useful for Russia in economics.

If this happens I won't be surprise. For those who think that using nuke from Russians side to Ukraine will start a nuclear war are wrong. Ukraine has no nuke and other EU country even USA will not use their nuke against Russia even if Russia nuke Ukraine. Nuclear capability of Russia is well known to EU leaders so they won't risk their country for Ukraine.

But i do not think Putin have any  intention to nuke Ukraine because it seems Putin wants support from Ukraine people. Especially from pro Russians people in Ukraine so that Russia could established their foothold in Ukraine even after the war.

I wouldn't be sure about that because US has the history of sending nukes already. Just recently Biden was also talking about it which means it crossed their minds already.

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April 12, 2022, 04:09:32 AM
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I don't think that Putin will do that, given that Nuclear won't solve anything on the contrary it will add to the new problem that this could bring Russia down. Because of course that if Russia wanted to drop a nuclear bomb on Ukraine, surely no country would side with Russia, not even China.

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April 12, 2022, 07:28:57 AM
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I wouldn't be sure about that because US has the history of sending nukes already. Just recently Biden was also talking about it which means it crossed their minds already.

The US could send a nuke but I really doubt that EU countries will do the same. Till now it seems they just want to cooperate with Russia to solve this matter peacefully. At least that's what shows by seeing the action of Germany, France, hungry. Only USA, UK is spreading rumors and fears to other countries.

Keeping nukes and using them are two different matters. The USA has its nuclear warhead in Turkey which turkey can not use. The USA keeps those nukes for their own strategic plan not to save a turkey from nuclear attack. Using nuclear weapons against another highly nuclear capability country is a very serious matter. If the USA try to destroy Russia with the nuclear weapon they will also be destroyed. It's a no-win game.
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April 13, 2022, 04:46:37 AM
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I wouldn't be sure about that because US has the history of sending nukes already. Just recently Biden was also talking about it which means it crossed their minds already.

The US could send a nuke but I really doubt that EU countries will do the same. Till now it seems they just want to cooperate with Russia to solve this matter peacefully. At least that's what shows by seeing the action of Germany, France, hungry. Only USA, UK is spreading rumors and fears to other countries.

Keeping nukes and using them are two different matters. The USA has its nuclear warhead in Turkey which turkey can not use. The USA keeps those nukes for their own strategic plan not to save a turkey from nuclear attack. Using nuclear weapons against another highly nuclear capability country is a very serious matter. If the USA try to destroy Russia with the nuclear weapon they will also be destroyed. It's a no-win game.

That is if Germany, UK and France has the balls to stop US from interfering their rights. EU is still under US we have recently seen it, when Joe says Nordstream will be stopped, Germany just silently cried himself not minding the Billions they have spent for it and shut down by an outsider.

Is you watch press conference of their officials on TV, they all said Ukraine HAS TO WIN this war. What do they mean WIN?  

So I'm not going to be surprise if things happen and probably no one will even react after that. No German, No UK or France will speak about it. But the voice of smaller country looks at it fairly and will shout about it.  Probably President Bukele be the first to condemn or President Duterte.

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April 13, 2022, 06:03:08 AM
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If conventional war in Ukraine becomes to costly and to risky, like it also happened in the pacific,

putin could use Nuclear weapon's on one of more Militarised Cities in Ukraine just like the USA did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki,

havine a jewish Comedian president that worships the woke racist western left, will make live very risky for Ukrainians,

and it is likely that Putin will get away with it as he can easily blame the United states for Arming Ukraine and for pushing it towards Russia, (war propaganda)

i think this is highly likely if Putin wil not be able to win the war Conventionally, as the russians are not willing to fight high causalty urban war.

Ukrainian here. despite the fact that the post is full of Russian narratives and as far as I remember KingScorpio is from Germany and is an ardent admirer of Putin and I'm pretty sure that he hsa a flag of the communist party of Germany hanging in his room next to a photo of Powell from the UN 2003 in a frame, we really don't rule out the possibility of a nuclear strike on country. You really can't rule out anythingfighting a gang of incompetent marauders led by a bald dwarf.
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April 13, 2022, 08:01:02 AM
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That is if Germany, UK and France has the balls to stop US from interfering their rights. EU is still under US we have recently seen it, when Joe says Nordstream will be stopped, Germany just silently cried himself not minding the Billions they have spent for it and shut down by an outsider.

Germany must follow America's lead. There are many reasons behind this. The United States has about 40,000 troops stationed in Germany. About 15,000 Americans live permanently in Germany. This is America's highest presence in any country outside of America. Germany also has wide participation in NATO. There is not much option left for Germany not to listen to the USA.

Is you watch press conference of their officials on TV, they all said Ukraine HAS TO WIN this war. What do they mean WIN?  

German officials have said that Ukraine must win the war but at the same time, they have refused to provide any military assistance to Ukraine. Although under US pressure they have sent some military aid to Ukraine, most of it has proved unusable. The United States has called on European countries to impose sanctions on Russia's energy sector, but Germany has flatly refused. What they have said is due to pressure from the USA. They don't care about Ukraine.
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April 14, 2022, 04:40:57 PM
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Also, Japan is across the Pacific from America. Ukraine is just next-door to Russia.

Japan, America, and Russia are actually closer than we think. Russia and Japan have border issues and Russia even owns Alaska once upon a time because it's just right next to the border of Canada. https://ibb.co/P5swF2p They could actually just fight right in the icy lands and not disturb any country in the Northpole as thier battlefield but they choose to destroy some like Ukraine.

Yes I know but what I'm saying is that the danger of fallout and other contamination is more for Russia should it nuke Ukraine than what the US got after it nuked Japan which is separated by the ocean.

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when he is being pushed into a corner anything can happen, putin is considering ukraine as fashists and neonazis and enemies to russian freedom,

he is not different than american social justice warriors, if you have two people and they are supposed to run their country both can't be the bank

one has to be the worker and the other one the banker. can't work different

peace only exists as long as there is someone that either voluntarily or somehow on drugs becomes the worker that does the crappy labour.

Well there's that, he does come across as being slightly unpredictable.
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