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May 17, 2022, 09:10:09 PM
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I didn't know there were so many millionaires in the world. Most of them are wiser with their money than to gamble the capital through it.
That's the reality, there are too many millionaires yet there are also too many poor people that barely eats thrice a day.

You often do not become a millionaire by gambling at a casino or other gambling sites. Then you should make a big hit, but in the long run we all play on and the whole capital goes through it.
Those that have became millionaires traditionally are due to their grit and hardwork with real life investments and businesses. But, there are those gamblers that have became wealthy because of what they do, the actual gambling.

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May 17, 2022, 09:16:33 PM
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I didn't know there were so many millionaires in the world. Most of them are wiser with their money than to gamble the capital through it.
That's the reality, there are too many millionaires yet there are also too many poor people that barely eats thrice a day.

You often do not become a millionaire by gambling at a casino or other gambling sites. Then you should make a big hit, but in the long run we all play on and the whole capital goes through it.
Those that have became millionaires traditionally are due to their grit and hardwork with real life investments and businesses. But, there are those gamblers that have became wealthy because of what they do, the actual gambling.

We don't know where those high rollers are getting their funds but that's none of our business.
But if you will really find time to observe in some games or sports betting, you can really see bettors spending thousands of dollars in one bet.
And when it comes to gambling, you very well know you have no assurance if you will win or not.
So more than likely, they can afford to lose such amount of money without worrying about their losses.
The good thing about crypto gambling is they can play anonymously along with other players, but more than likely they undergo kyc under the casino itself.
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May 18, 2022, 04:55:38 AM
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I can understand when some celebrity or public person loses a million in a casino - this is a smart move, because for this million he roughly buys a lot of mentions of himself and remains in the information space. As a result, this gives him more benefits. But when an ordinary millionaire who earns by ordinary business loses money in this way, he receives a double loss - money + reputation. For example, I am suspicious of gamblers and would do business with them with extra insurance/caution.
I also suspect that gamblers are collaborating or doing business with the insurance company because the insurance may bear the loss. But as long as the insurance can act fairly and honestly and doesn't defend against the mistakes of gamblers, I don't think that will happen, even though there is a possibility that the insurance officer will get bribes from gamblers to share the money from insurance. But still, losing a lot of money for ordinary people will hurt and we should avoid losing a lot of money.

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May 18, 2022, 06:36:42 AM
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By the way, I am surprised by the news when I hear that someone very rich has lost a lot of money in a regular casino. To some extent, this is not logical - after all, having a lot of money, you can buy any slot machine (to lose money to yourself lol) or hire a dealer to torture him endlessly by playing blackjack, while losing only the money that will go to his salary  Grin

That's wont be called as a gambling because playing in their own slot machine is not risking anything while gambling is mostly about risking money. Sure I know you are joking here Smiley

But most millionaires and billionaires that we know now are the ones who did an investment in other environment, surely gambling is not on their sheet to be in their status now.

There can be some people who are investing in gambling business, not as a gambler but as owner of casino. They can be a millionaire or billionaire by owning a casino obviously because we all know that the house always win in the end. 

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May 18, 2022, 08:41:42 AM
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I can understand when some celebrity or public person loses a million in a casino - this is a smart move, because for this million he roughly buys a lot of mentions of himself and remains in the information space. As a result, this gives him more benefits. But when an ordinary millionaire who earns by ordinary business loses money in this way, he receives a double loss - money + reputation. For example, I am suspicious of gamblers and would do business with them with extra insurance/caution.
I also suspect that gamblers are collaborating or doing business with the insurance company because the insurance may bear the loss. But as long as the insurance can act fairly and honestly and doesn't defend against the mistakes of gamblers, I don't think that will happen, even though there is a possibility that the insurance officer will get bribes from gamblers to share the money from insurance. But still, losing a lot of money for ordinary people will hurt and we should avoid losing a lot of money.

I meant something completely different - if I find out that my business partner is an avid gambler and loses large sums in the casino, then I will deal with him without any trust with tenfold caution. As far as casino loss insurance goes, I've never heard of anything like that (other than small-money promotions like "bet $5 and we'll get it back if you lose").

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May 18, 2022, 09:00:02 AM
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When you are having that lots of funds then i would say that probably you would really seeking off things for your entertainment and not to make more money
Let us not be stupid to say that we are gambling for Pure fun because we all seek for winning though we can control the desire instead we can keep hold the emotion when we lose.
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because they are in Gambling so what can we expect for more? that is the price we can take on for gambling .
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Its true that emotions would be the determining factor when making out decisions.
Whether you are already enjoying on losing lots of funds or wont bother yourself since you do know that you do still have lots.
It is indeed that our emotion will settle us for here or there , because all of our decisions will for sure comes from our feelings and desire .









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May 18, 2022, 09:04:50 AM
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By the way, I am surprised by the news when I hear that someone very rich has lost a lot of money in a regular casino. To some extent, this is not logical - after all, having a lot of money, you can buy any slot machine (to lose money to yourself lol) or hire a dealer to torture him endlessly by playing blackjack, while losing only the money that will go to his salary  Grin

That's wont be called as a gambling because playing in their own slot machine is not risking anything while gambling is mostly about risking money. Sure I know you are joking here Smiley


It's not really a joke If someone is battling for gambling games addiction, someone could really do that. You know rich people always have this 1 crazy idea they do with their excessive money lol. However, majority won't really do that since they have a lot of money to burn and it's really illogical to do that despite it's also kinda boring thing to do when you're playing on your own slot machine that you know no money is involved.

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May 18, 2022, 10:10:06 AM
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I can understand when some celebrity or public person loses a million in a casino - this is a smart move, because for this million he roughly buys a lot of mentions of himself and remains in the information space. As a result, this gives him more benefits. But when an ordinary millionaire who earns by ordinary business loses money in this way, he receives a double loss - money + reputation. For example, I am suspicious of gamblers and would do business with them with extra insurance/caution.
I also suspect that gamblers are collaborating or doing business with the insurance company because the insurance may bear the loss. But as long as the insurance can act fairly and honestly and doesn't defend against the mistakes of gamblers, I don't think that will happen, even though there is a possibility that the insurance officer will get bribes from gamblers to share the money from insurance. But still, losing a lot of money for ordinary people will hurt and we should avoid losing a lot of money.

I have not seen any information about the existence of insurance companies that would insure against losing money in the casino. In my opinion this insurance simply can not exist because the probability of losing all the money in the casino is much higher than the likelihood of winning and thus an insurance company will simply go bankrupt after a week of its existence.

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May 18, 2022, 02:48:15 PM
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I can understand when some celebrity or public person loses a million in a casino - this is a smart move, because for this million he roughly buys a lot of mentions of himself and remains in the information space. As a result, this gives him more benefits. But when an ordinary millionaire who earns by ordinary business loses money in this way, he receives a double loss - money + reputation. For example, I am suspicious of gamblers and would do business with them with extra insurance/caution.
I also suspect that gamblers are collaborating or doing business with the insurance company because the insurance may bear the loss. But as long as the insurance can act fairly and honestly and doesn't defend against the mistakes of gamblers, I don't think that will happen, even though there is a possibility that the insurance officer will get bribes from gamblers to share the money from insurance. But still, losing a lot of money for ordinary people will hurt and we should avoid losing a lot of money.

I have not seen any information about the existence of insurance companies that would insure against losing money in the casino. In my opinion this insurance simply can not exist because the probability of losing all the money in the casino is much higher than the likelihood of winning and thus an insurance company will simply go bankrupt after a week of its existence.
Same here, I just cannot imagine if those information were true. Insurance companies are there for some reasons, but insuring loss funds of bettors while gambling? I certainly don't think that it's highly possible. I mean insurance companies also have some goal to gain more money than what they are giving, you know what I mean.

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I didn't know there were so many millionaires in the world. Most of them are wiser with their money than to gamble the capital through it. You often do not become a millionaire by gambling at a casino or other gambling sites. Then you should make a big hit, but in the long run we all play on and the whole capital goes through it.

There are many millionaires in the world but most of them never share their wealth publicly and only some people know about it. These rich people also often gambled and spent a lot of money on many games. We will never know let alone maybe many of them are playing in private casinos which are only allowed to be visited by people who have a lot of money. But we may only be able to see some of those who play big money gambling in one casino and can only see the total amount of money they use.


That's true especially in Bitcoin Land/the cryptocurrency world. There are sometimes whales who play with more than 10 Bitcoins per click in dice in Crypto.Games. That's $210,000 per click if we put the price of Bitcoin to its next possible bear market cycle low. Who would bet $210,000 per click, it's crazy. Is he an owner of one of the biggest Bitcoin mining farms? A HODLer from 2011 or 2012? The wife of a HODLer?


Whoever that is, that person is very rich in bitcoin. Before when bitcoin was still very cheap, it was easy to gamble 1 BTC per click, but now, it's very expensive and those who can gamble that amount are very rich, we don't have to get envy, LOL. Enjoy gambling based on what you can afford to lose only.


I believe it's more than just being "Bitcoin rich", he/she might be a super bored person who's merely looking for excitment? Or maybe a depressed person who wants to throw money away to feel better? Because if I have 10 Bitcoins to throw away click per click, I would rather invest them in real estate, and farm land. That's what a normal person would do.
Well, judging by the fact and his/her audacity to easily throw away 10 bitcoins per click, we can already tell that he/she is not a normal person like us as he/she just wasting that kind of sum just to break his/her boredom. As for us, certainly that 10 bitcoins could put to some good use if we have that huge fund like investing to different environment either stock, real estate or else start some business.

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Same here, I just cannot imagine if those information were true. Insurance companies are there for some reasons, but insuring loss funds of bettors while gambling? I certainly don't think that it's highly possible. I mean insurance companies also have some goal to gain more money than what they are giving, you know what I mean.
It is very illogical if the insurance company will facilitate someone without collateral so that they do not care about the background even though they already know that he is a gambling addict, the insurance company will hold the collateral until the time limit that the loan expires or claim it is equivalent to the agreed loan.

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May 18, 2022, 10:39:01 PM
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Those that have became millionaires traditionally are due to their grit and hardwork with real life investments and businesses. But, there are those gamblers that have became wealthy because of what they do, the actual gambling.

We don't know where those high rollers are getting their funds but that's none of our business.
But if you will really find time to observe in some games or sports betting, you can really see bettors spending thousands of dollars in one bet.
And when it comes to gambling, you very well know you have no assurance if you will win or not.
So more than likely, they can afford to lose such amount of money without worrying about their losses.
The good thing about crypto gambling is they can play anonymously along with other players, but more than likely they undergo kyc under the casino itself.

I've got personal friends that can spent not just hundreds but also thousands in dollars with the games that they know and has been following all of their lives.
It's all about the knowledge that they've got before placing in huge bets because they're aware of it and won't bet with such amounts if there's no advantage and upper hand for them.

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Quite surprised to see consecutive high roller of above 20BTC on a single wager. Have any of you come across such big wagers in real-time.
Absolutely he is a big and professional gambler, no matter what, high risk, high turn, and vice versa.
For us, this may be a very high bet, but for those who are big players, it may be a common condition, moreover for the professional bettor, they may think that this is a very common or small betting. This is simply like investing, the whales have been usual buying or trading several BTC at once. ANd for us, that is too much  Cheesy
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May 19, 2022, 02:23:22 AM
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I meant something completely different - if I find out that my business partner is an avid gambler and loses large sums in the casino, then I will deal with him without any trust with tenfold caution. As far as casino loss insurance goes, I've never heard of anything like that (other than small-money promotions like "bet $5 and we'll get it back if you lose").
Maybe you have a point. Insurance officers can be careful with their clients who often play gambling because it will bring a lot of losses and if that happens, the gambler will find it difficult to pay the premium every month. But it could also be related to corrupt insurance officers as I said. They will easily offer loss insurance to gamblers on the condition that the gambler divides the money that the gambler will receive. But I don't know, I don't really understand that and I think there are lots of possibilities that could happen.

I have not seen any information about the existence of insurance companies that would insure against losing money in the casino. In my opinion this insurance simply can not exist because the probability of losing all the money in the casino is much higher than the likelihood of winning and thus an insurance company will simply go bankrupt after a week of its existence.
Yes, we may never see it but we don't know what's going on out there. Or maybe the insurance company will cover rehabilitation for a gambling addict so he can solve his gambling addiction problem. But if the insurance officer is corrupt and want to make money, he will do something to that without anyone know.

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By the way, I am surprised by the news when I hear that someone very rich has lost a lot of money in a regular casino. To some extent, this is not logical - after all, having a lot of money, you can buy any slot machine (to lose money to yourself lol) or hire a dealer to torture him endlessly by playing blackjack, while losing only the money that will go to his salary  Grin
We will never know why rich people spend a lot of money in regular or online casinos. They can buy a slot machine and then run a casino business, but they haven't thought about having a business in gambling, so they are just having fun in the casino. If they can think like that, it will be good for them because they can earn a decent profit from the gambling business.
Yes, these rich individuals are certainly capable owning and financing casinos or some gambling business, but the catch is, this kind of business is not easy to handle because they have to be hands-on on these types of investment and not just hire someone to manage their casino. Yes, sometimes they can be lucky when it comes to employee but mostly, these same employee will just desert you and worse with that money.

Surely, they don't want something like that as it could be a waste of time and they're also not interested at all. They just want to enjoy their money and get entertained.

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Same here, I just cannot imagine if those information were true. Insurance companies are there for some reasons, but insuring loss funds of bettors while gambling? I certainly don't think that it's highly possible. I mean insurance companies also have some goal to gain more money than what they are giving, you know what I mean.
It is very illogical if the insurance company will facilitate someone without collateral so that they do not care about the background even though they already know that he is a gambling addict, the insurance company will hold the collateral until the time limit that the loan expires or claim it is equivalent to the agreed loan.
Insurance companies make money by calculating the risk that a person like you represent and then charging you on average more money than the risk you represent to them, so for example if you are driving your car and you crash then they have to pay you, but on average other people with your driving record will not get into many accidents and they will still earn money with them.

Taking into account that most gamblers lose their money when they gamble due to the odds being against them, then it is almost impossible there is a single insurance company out there willing to take such a risk and insurance gamblers and their bets.
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Everyone can but there's only few gamblers that have actually did it because of mere luck, it's just they need to know and understand that it's not an easy path towards that way and there's a very high chance that you could lose a couple bucks first before you win big time as we always have experienced. But yes, I do a agree that we should have to know our line and when to stop even if it's too tempting already.
The stories of those successful bettors and high rollers, we'll never know how much they've lost along the way. It's great to see them win such amounts and rolls high.
True, they have to control themselves and decide how much they're willing to lose within a day. If it's small for them and big for us, that's not a matter and it's still their money to gamble.

We will never know how the player got these funds and we will never understand his goals, but I think this person was fully aware of the likelihood of losing these funds to the casino. I could easily spend in the casino some of the money I earn due to favorable circumstances on the crypto market. Perhaps this man, too, after a big deal, decided to relax and take a risk. We will never know for sure.
Yup, that's one thing for sure that we will never know.
As they gamble with their money, we don't know their goal and how they've acquired it. And if they've decided to gamble and losses it, they've foreseen it and decided that there's no going back and regret. But, some still do regret their decisions after losing. Well, who does want to lose with such amounts, we all want to win instead.

I think that we perhaps have no idea what those players may have gone through, or how many times they have seen it so badly that they have gone bankrupt for playing around, or how much help they may have received from their friends or people who possibly They have lent them money to recover, some of them must have lived through very difficult situations, because at one point you can have everything but at another you are also with nothing if you make a mistake in the game, when there is a big win I think that many times these players They will say that they won but even so they have lost more than they have won, for me things are something like that for them.

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May 19, 2022, 11:14:24 PM
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Everyone can but there's only few gamblers that have actually did it because of mere luck, it's just they need to know and understand that it's not an easy path towards that way and there's a very high chance that you could lose a couple bucks first before you win big time as we always have experienced. But yes, I do a agree that we should have to know our line and when to stop even if it's too tempting already.
The stories of those successful bettors and high rollers, we'll never know how much they've lost along the way. It's great to see them win such amounts and rolls high.
True, they have to control themselves and decide how much they're willing to lose within a day. If it's small for them and big for us, that's not a matter and it's still their money to gamble.

We will never know how the player got these funds and we will never understand his goals, but I think this person was fully aware of the likelihood of losing these funds to the casino. I could easily spend in the casino some of the money I earn due to favorable circumstances on the crypto market. Perhaps this man, too, after a big deal, decided to relax and take a risk. We will never know for sure.
Yup, that's one thing for sure that we will never know.
As they gamble with their money, we don't know their goal and how they've acquired it. And if they've decided to gamble and losses it, they've foreseen it and decided that there's no going back and regret. But, some still do regret their decisions after losing. Well, who does want to lose with such amounts, we all want to win instead.

I think that we perhaps have no idea what those players may have gone through, or how many times they have seen it so badly that they have gone bankrupt for playing around, or how much help they may have received from their friends or people who possibly They have lent them money to recover, some of them must have lived through very difficult situations, because at one point you can have everything but at another you are also with nothing if you make a mistake in the game, when there is a big win I think that many times these players They will say that they won but even so they have lost more than they have won, for me things are something like that for them.

No one really knows on what happening behind but only into those players who are fully aware on what are their status whether they are in profit or totally in deep losses which cant really be known unless if they would be sharing it out.It is really just good to see or amazing on someone to make huge bets which most of us cant really afford to do so and some do have impressions that it might really be just part of the team or been sponsored just to make look that there are whale players who do trust up a specific platform or gambling site which is also acts as a part of marketing but if we do talk about real players then this is where
things do really look interesting but stressful at the same time.

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May 20, 2022, 03:03:59 AM
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Yes, these rich individuals are certainly capable owning and financing casinos or some gambling business, but the catch is, this kind of business is not easy to handle because they have to be hands-on on these types of investment and not just hire someone to manage their casino. Yes, sometimes they can be lucky when it comes to employee but mostly, these same employee will just desert you and worse with that money.

Surely, they don't want something like that as it could be a waste of time and they're also not interested at all. They just want to enjoy their money and get entertained.
Maybe they can get involved but not completely but indeed, they should understand most about the casino so that if there is a sudden interest, they know what to do and can decide right away. In addition, managing employees is also not as easy as imagined, especially since the employees are not in the same location.

Or maybe they don't want to handle the gambling business and prefer a different business. Maybe that's why they prefer to spend their money gambling in as many casinos as they want.

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May 20, 2022, 04:36:00 AM
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Those that have became millionaires traditionally are due to their grit and hardwork with real life investments and businesses. But, there are those gamblers that have became wealthy because of what they do, the actual gambling.

We don't know where those high rollers are getting their funds but that's none of our business.
But if you will really find time to observe in some games or sports betting, you can really see bettors spending thousands of dollars in one bet.
And when it comes to gambling, you very well know you have no assurance if you will win or not.
So more than likely, they can afford to lose such amount of money without worrying about their losses.
The good thing about crypto gambling is they can play anonymously along with other players, but more than likely they undergo kyc under the casino itself.

I've got personal friends that can spent not just hundreds but also thousands in dollars with the games that they know and has been following all of their lives.
It's all about the knowledge that they've got before placing in huge bets because they're aware of it and won't bet with such amounts if there's no advantage and upper hand for them.
When you say Spent meaning they are losers right ? because if not then it is not considered as spending ,
I have tried playing using a Hundred but after rolling and several games changing ? yeah I manage to make it to 5 digits , but suddenly loses everything after long time of playing , this give me the idea that we must only spend short time , if lucky then get out and if not lucky ? best to stand from the table and go home .

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