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April 10, 2022, 09:26:59 PM
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What about btc and reliogions?
If im christian fully full christian i pray everyday and serve full time god how do i know if btc not ban for me if im full god person.
Is anything about crypto or btc what might be against reliongins ?
Any experinces on that ?
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April 10, 2022, 09:37:56 PM
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Oh no, you again with a strange theme.

First of all, bitcoin is money, then there are religions that specifically talk about how their believers should handle money, about Catholics I don't see anything that prevents people from using bitcoin. but I don't know about other religions. I heard one day someone commenting on the muslim religion vs bitcoin. But I have to admit that I haven't researched the subject. I think most religions have no problem with people using bitcoin

If im christian fully full christian i pray everyday and serve full time god how do i know if btc not ban for me if im full god person.

man, there are many thieving politicians who have already killed hundreds of people, but these same politicians  go to church to pray and the priest blesses them. I said that bitcoin is money, so it's okay to use money, so it's okay to use bitcoin

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April 10, 2022, 09:42:31 PM
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What about btc and reliogions?
If im christian fully full christian i pray everyday and serve full time god how do i know if btc not ban for me if im full god person.
Ask your church elders and management.

Is anything about crypto or btc what might be against reliongins ?
Possibly for some religions and it depends on what you're believing.

Any experinces on that ?
I haven't since there's no ban that's been implemented. It's best to ask your church directly and tell them if they have something against bitcoin and crypto.

But AFAIK, I've seen somewhere that it's even possible to send donations to churches through crypto.

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April 10, 2022, 09:46:44 PM
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What about btc and reliogions?
If im christian fully full christian i pray everyday and serve full time god how do i know if btc not ban for me if im full god person.
Ask your church elders and management.

Is anything about crypto or btc what might be against reliongins ?
Possibly for some religions and it depends on what you're believing.

Any experinces on that ?
I haven't since there's no ban that's been implemented. It's best to ask your church directly and tell them if they have something against bitcoin and crypto.

But AFAIK, I've seen somewhere that it's even possible to send donations to churches through crypto.


Allright it makes btc good ? If u can send donations with btc to church
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April 10, 2022, 09:49:26 PM
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There were many cases of Islam scholars saying that Bitcoin is not compatible with their religion. Doesn't mean that all muslims think so though. For Christianity and other religions, there are no notable statements, but knowing how clerics, even the lowest ranking ones, love to comment on politics and current events, it won't be surprising that some can make a case for or against Bitcoin in their religion. Which just shows that the separation of state and religion has been a great idea, because clerics are not fit to decide financial policy or really any topics outside of their scope.
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April 10, 2022, 10:16:28 PM
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2 Kings Chapter 12. The people wanted a more secure way to keep track of their funds following a security breach. So Jehoiada the priest created a wallet where the people could deposit funds, but no one would able to transfer those funds without the private key. The people who kept the ledger secure received payments for blocks.

But then shortly thereafter they changed from a proof of work model to a form of proof of stake, and eventually all the money ended up going to the priests. The people seemed to be okay with this.
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April 10, 2022, 10:23:51 PM
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Allright it makes btc good ? If u can send donations with btc to church

when you take money and donate to the church, I think it's okay to donate, but when you take money that you earned by committing many crimes then I think it would be wrong to donate that money but with today's world where there are criminal politicians who go the church and are blessed and then they make donations to the church so if you take money that you earned thanks to crime you will not be refused, but you will have to show some repentance before God. I think that's it. I'm not a believer, I just said it based on things I've seen

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April 10, 2022, 10:50:33 PM
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What about btc and reliogions?
If im christian fully full christian i pray everyday and serve full time god how do i know if btc not ban for me if im full god person.
Is anything about crypto or btc what might be against reliongins ?
Any experinces on that ?
I'm a full Christian too mate and I never heard that it's prohibited to accept Bitcoin in our church, in fact, I saw this.
St. John's is 'world's first Catholic church to accept bitcoin' and this, Churches Starting to See Cryptocurrency in the Collection Plate.

But I think I tend to agree with the comment above, just ask your elder in your church or any of the priests or nuns about crypto acceptance in your place.
AFAIK, crypto is forbidden by Muslims and in most Islamic countries, they did not accept this as a currency.

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April 10, 2022, 11:23:01 PM
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AFAIK, crypto is forbidden by Muslims and in most Islamic countries, they did not accept this as a currency.
Imagine the Irony is Bitcoin was donated as financial aid to some of those Islamic institutions claiming it's forbidden  Grin

Bitcoin is basically money and store of value, if it's forbidden, then they should forbid fiat money too and all those other physical assets that store value such as gold.
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There is difference of view on cryptocurrency by different religions. In Christianity there is nothing much about bitcoin. It is like Christians are free to use in my view. With Muslims there were different views from various scholars and governments on Muslim majority countries.

According to many Islamic scholars, cryptocurrency is deemed permissible and halal under Islamic Sharia law, and this has unlocked the crypto investment market to a global Muslim audience with increasing numbers of Muslims wanting to buy crypto and use it as a form of currency. What is cryptocurrency and is it halal?

Below is the view of bitcoin from a Muslim scholar who is recognised as having specialised knowledge in Islam.
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"Cryptocurrency as currency is forbidden because it has elements of uncertainty, harm and doesn't meet the Islamic requirement according to Shariah [law],"
Indonesian Muslims forbidden to use cryptocurrency

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AFAIK, crypto is forbidden by Muslims and in most Islamic countries, they did not accept this as a currency.
Imagine the Irony is Bitcoin was donated as financial aid to some of those Islamic institutions claiming it's forbidden  Grin

Bitcoin is basically money and store of value, if it's forbidden, then they should forbid fiat money too and all those other physical assets that store value such as gold.
Humans love to complicate things sometimes

Sometimes they have different approach or perspectives regarding this matter. But yes, it is ironic if they are accepting bitcoin or crypto donations but they are telling to its people that it is forbidden. They are just contradicting themselves.

But when it comes to bitcoin or crypto in general, we are not discriminating whatever your religion is. Now, it depends on your religion whatever their take is towards crypto. But crypto itself doesn't side any religion at all. Everyone is welcome to join this market and use it according to their needs.
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Bitcoin is a digital currency that can be traded or can be used as a medium of exchange like fiat, in Islamic law what is forbidden is gambling if bitcoin is used as a tool for gambling then it is haram but if bitcoin is used as an asset like gold then in my opinion it is normal and allowed.

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I wonder if there has ever been any topic in any part of the internet with the title "fiat (eg. USD) and religion" lol. This looks like a themed crazy topic that only one currency sees and that is bitcoin. Interestingly enough majority of such topics don't have any content either, exactly like this one here.

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Bitcoin is a digital currency that can be traded or can be used as a medium of exchange like fiat, in Islamic law what is forbidden is gambling if bitcoin is used as a tool for gambling then it is haram but if bitcoin is used as an asset like gold then in my opinion it is normal and allowed.
But Bitcoin in general can’t be categorized as haram because it's a cryptocurrency and not only dedicated to gambling. I believe the best example for this are poker chips since this chips are use only for a sole purposed of gambling and other cryptocurreny that focus on gambling.

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uh what? Bitcoin is a medium, form of currency, religion is well, a medium of belief and/or worship of something (or escapism) to explain something unexplainable with the current standards we have. I see no reason why one would reject the other, especially in the information-driven era that we have right now. Anything that says so otherwise might just connect it to certain negative actions(from the religions pov) instead of the currency itself imo.
Allright it makes btc good ? If u can send donations with btc to church
It's neither. BTC is and would never be good or bad. It's the person using it that you would be described as good instead of the medium. Though if you were asking if Btc was a good "way" to donate to the church, well that depends on the church whether they accept it or not, and it doesn't really differ much from fiat in terms of being used as donation tbh.

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I think those who questionis bitcoin against religion are those who get the wrong information about Bitcoin, the problem is how do you get the Bitcoin not Bitcoin it self, if you get it illegally then it will definitely be against your religion. Bitcoin is like a currency that can be used as a means of payment, its increasing value will not agaist religion because it is almost the same as when we own property or stock and its value goes up.

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April 11, 2022, 07:27:33 AM
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What about btc and reliogions?
If im christian fully full christian i pray everyday and serve full time god how do i know if btc not ban for me if im full god person.
Is anything about crypto or btc what might be against reliongins ?
Any experinces on that ?

No there is no issue with religion and Bitcoins, why should there be one? I am also a Christian but not very active, I rarely go to church and never really pray - only in really bad moments. What I do remember from my studies is that being a good citizen is the goal. Being a friendly and helpful person within your community, helping others and not harming man or animals is very important. All these things don't contradict investing and trading crypto currencies. Alcohol, Cigarettes, Gambling are all not bad things, as long as you don't do them excessively. Everybody needs time after work to regenerate and relax, if you combine that with looking after your finances and invest in Bitcoins its good. Just make sure to follow the laws in your country and you will be fine with the religion aswell.
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This is an easy answer to this easy question, first of all since you prayed every day, you know comprehensive knowledge of your religion when it comes to buying and selling, you said you are right? now all you need to do is check what bitcoin does and how can it tackle the problem and free us from the financial problems that keep hurting us throughout the course of our lives. If you can merge it with Christianity, then you have all the choices whether still use it or leave it.

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This is an easy answer to this easy question, first of all since you prayed every day, you know comprehensive knowledge of your religion when it comes to buying and selling, you said you are right? now all you need to do is check what bitcoin does and how can it tackle the problem and free us from the financial problems that keep hurting us throughout the course of our lives. If you can merge it with Christianity, then you have all the choices whether still use it or leave it.



Wait a minute is that GOD prohbits gambling ? And btc volatility...it is kinda gambling
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The trick that bitcoin is,
did it work as sound money for YOU?

or did you find that whe you bought it fell, when you sold , it rose? Like the jews were robbing you again


was it just another jewish deception?
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April 11, 2022, 08:48:18 AM
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Religious differs. Specifically you made mentioned of Christian. I hope there is no ban on crypto currency mostly btc on Christians. Even though we are in one religious, Christian in particular, we have different view on the subject matter. Some Christian individuals see the crypto currency as a devil currency, so they don't even talk about it because they take it as sin. And any person who is using crypto currency is a sinner, that is their believe. Full time Christian or church goer has nothing to do with bitcoin. Bitcoin is just a Currency for buying and selling of goods and services online. So the different perception about the currency does not affect the currency. The matter here is what do you know about the currency and how do you use it? One thing you have to know the currency and the other is to use it. As a Christian, do you believe that btc is not an evil currency? Or not for sinners?

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As far as Islam goes, we have topics about it in the past:


And then Bitcoin as religion topic:


But I guess nothing is wrong for having bitcoin in your wallet. The best thing to do is to check with your local leaders and see if it is forbidden or not

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Is bitcoin just an innovative tool for the federal reserve gang to tighten and loosen money supply? When they want to pull the levers of inflation and deflation to enslave the masses, is bitcoin just one of many sleight of hand tricks to control the overall flow of money?

Is the price of bitcoin dropped manually by th federal reserve partners , while atm withdraw limits are lowered, and wire transfers delayed?

Is it just one of hundreds of tools the jewish banking criminals use in a desperate control scheme?



Did you personally feel the monetary supply outside of bitcoin tighten, while at the same time your bitcoin value fell?



Humanity is and has been under economic attack since the day you were born. Is bitcoin just another weapon the jewish banking criminals use to rob you?
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April 11, 2022, 09:29:11 AM
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Allright it makes btc good ? If u can send donations with btc to church
As I've said, it depends to them.

So you ask where you're attending church services. And if you think that you would like to send them donations then just do it and don't feel regret by doing that.

As you give it to them as a donation then you'll probably feel satisfied with what you've done because that's probably what's on your mind.

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Btc and religion are interesting to discuss and dig deeper, because in my country the government used to issue a fatwa that bitcoin is haram, but there are religious figures who are not involved in politics they say bitcoin is not haram, the reason is because bitcoin does not harm other people, he also said crypto is currency, I also conclude that religious figures who say bitcoin is haram are religious figures who are always subject to regulations issued by the government.

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April 11, 2022, 10:06:37 AM
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its a casino for niggers right? like it always is crashing so its just a joke right?

Now when I think of bitcoi I think its stupid as fuck, it of course will go down. it does always go down if you buy it.

its like a slot machine at a casino, they have pictures of winners, but you always lose everytime YOU try
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April 11, 2022, 07:14:36 PM
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This news is old, I think it's you who hasn't happened to leave tithes:
"Bitcoin Is Now Being Accepted by Swiss Church for Tithes and Offerings"
https://www.westernjournal.com/bitcoin-now-accepted-swiss-church-tithes-offerings/

https://www.southshorechristianfellowship.org/bitcoin

Although there is Qr, it seems that there is no faith yet to send satoshi or it will be a matter of information, but the important thing is... that when a good samaritan decides to pay tithtes, then they, the parishioners have no excuse.

And it is not the first, because according to what can be documented St Martin's Anglican Church, London, accepts donations since 2014, so there is many conferences that do so but are not documented or simply our faith does not get to know them.

OP:The fact that you have a few satoshis does not move you away or bring you closer to anything that is not only your convictions.


Please, look at the date of this news, feb 18,2014.
https://www.london.anglican.org/articles/london-church-becomes-first-to-accept-donations-in-bitcoins/

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April 11, 2022, 07:15:42 PM
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every convert lost 20% of their bitcoin value in 1 week. thats as much damage as it takes the mormon church 2 years to rip out of their victims
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April 11, 2022, 07:18:22 PM
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its a casino for niggers right? like it always is crashing so its just a joke right?

Now when I think of bitcoi I think its stupid as fuck, it of course will go down. it does always go down if you buy it.

its like a slot machine at a casino, they have pictures of winners, but you always lose everytime YOU try


Yes the point is same it is casino but so many people hope to get rich of nothing.
Few payed actors on youtube instgram showing off their crypto wealth....well thays how it is.
But crypto will pump and dump but when you are out of money the goverment will start regulate to protect those crypto wealth who stole and con from you.
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April 11, 2022, 07:26:55 PM
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What about btc and reliogions?
If im christian fully full christian i pray everyday and serve full time god how do i know if btc not ban for me if im full god person.
Is anything about crypto or btc what might be against reliongins ?
Any experinces on that ?
i barely understand your composition, the way you arrange your terminologies is difficult to be comprehend. The aspect of religion and cryptocurrency, you have to understand that their is no religion that kicked against money, so bitcoin is money but in a digital aspect or form, i have not see the needful or any cogent reason while bitcoin will be in comparison with religion

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April 11, 2022, 09:23:44 PM
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2 Kings Chapter 12. The people wanted a more secure way to keep track of their funds following a security breach. So Jehoiada the priest created a wallet where the people could deposit funds, but no one would able to transfer those funds without the private key. The people who kept the ledger secure received payments for blocks.

But then shortly thereafter they changed from a proof of work model to a form of proof of stake, and eventually all the money ended up going to the priests. The people seemed to be okay with this.
I see what you did there, quite funny.
Anyways, I don’t think that Bitcoin is going to turn proof of stake (PoS), the way I am seeing it, it’s going to stay as proof of work (PoW), despite there have been threats to ban it (from Europe) due to the Proof of Work, but the way I am seeing it, it would likely continue that way since it seems the developers are not making any effort towards that. Ethereum is the one that has moved to PoS.

By the way, Investing in Bitcoin is not a sin for someone who is a Christian, and I believe that’s the same for every other religion out there.
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April 11, 2022, 09:52:00 PM
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Oh no, you again with a strange theme.

First of all, bitcoin is money, then there are religions that specifically talk about how their believers should handle money, about Catholics I don't see anything that prevents people from using bitcoin. but I don't know about other religions. I heard one day someone commenting on the muslim religion vs bitcoin. But I have to admit that I haven't researched the subject. I think most religions have no problem with people using bitcoin
In the area where I live now I live side by side with several religions now but none of them are really against this kind of thing.
for someone who is a Muslim there is indeed some confusion about it but regardless of where I live now the Muslim opposition is only limited to not being allowed to buy coins for something real but must first be exchanged for money that is valid in my country (at least that's what I can catch) but other than that I don't see any strong opposition there

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April 11, 2022, 10:03:22 PM
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I haven't had any personal dealings with religious fellows who see Bitcoin as a negative omen. But i know of a friend who believes bitcoin is a currency of the end-time. Like each time we discuss about crypto this ideology of a one world currency keeps being the center of reference. Many religion still don't accept bitcoin but i think it should be more of a personal opinion and not a religious restriction
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April 11, 2022, 10:10:36 PM
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What about btc and reliogions?
If im christian fully full christian i pray everyday and serve full time god how do i know if btc not ban for me if im full god person.
Is anything about crypto or btc what might be against reliongins ?
Any experinces on that ?
Bitcoin has nothing to do with religion because if it does then fiat would be also having the same problem.It is really just these things do make out some influence on some aspect but not totally that relevant for someone

minding off about bans or even how good a person you are because it doesnt really make sense on having this kind of mindset or belief. Its not against religion but i heard on Muslim it wasnt a halal thing
but well its their own personal or religion point of view.

Bitcoin is digital currency which it do serves its purpose just like on what fiat money do.

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