Where have you saved your bitcoin keys? (satoshi saved it in cd rom! allegedly)

[Marvelman]

The disc still works!

I don't think anyone here is claiming that all CDs will stop working after ten years. But the truth is that recordings on CD media can lose data due to various external forces or a poor media quality. They are not all good for long-term data storage.

The design life is from 20 to 100 years, depending on the quality of the discs, the quality of the writing drive, and storage conditions.[22] However, testing has demonstrated such degradation of some discs in as little as 18 months under normal storage conditions.[23][24] This failure is known as disc rot, for which there are several, mostly environmental, reasons.[25]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc#Recordable_CD

[franky1]

a. satoshi never said anything about saving his keys to a cd-rom

B. the faker thatt wrote on some nutty conspiracy site is just a faker on a conspiracy site, heck its not even the same tone, grammar or communication style of satoshi
heck some idiot saying "heres a fresh new public address, and later i will sign this fresh new address to prove its me".. = no proof of satoshi.


c. cd's can get scratched, prone to heat intolerance and easy to snap/break.. no one is silly to store valuable data on 'cd-rom'

d. most people that liked CD storage used CDWR. they dont waste a whole disk per private key. and satoshi had THOUSANDS of keys for every block he mined

..
my interpretation of satoshi's events is that in the early days bitcoin had no value and 'losing' coins out of circulation meant the remaining coins would gain value so he had no desire to store private keys long term. also with all the bug fixing and updates he probably over-write alot of wallet.dat files

[crwth]

What I thought about this at the start is Mr. Robot. It is how he saves his hacks or something. Does anybody relate? Lol.

I think the alleged part wouldn't be reliable enough to know if it's saved like that or something, but it's a great way to do it as long as you know where you are putting it. Some practical ways are also paper wallets. Just make sure you have a way to recover it or something.

I'm thinking of innovative ways to save seed phrases now. Hmm.

[Asiska02]

About saving ones private key, one of the best place to save it is by writing it down on a piece of paper and keeping it in a safe lock where only you have access to. If this is prone to insecurity, it can be put down with a a language only you can depict. The best way is to have it in two separate places that is accessible to you only.

[ajaxtempest]

added online\cloud backup. It seems some people are too lazy careless about security.

[FatFork]

added online\cloud backup. It seems some people are too lazy careless about security.

If you keep adding options to your poll, you will not get accurate survey results. Poll participants cannot change their responses once they have submitted them.
Just saying...

[AicecreaME]

I store mine in my trusted bitcoin wallet. People can store it in different ways depending on their preferences. Some store it in hardwallet, some store it on their mobile devices, some store it in a flashdrive, some store it in unused computer, while some prefer the old way of storing their private keys in a notepad, stored in a safe place. It is just really a subjective matter and we can place it  wherever we are comfortable and at peace with.

If you already found something that works for you, then good. You just do you. Just remember to always still be cautious despite securing your private keys because there are still scams and schemes out there used by those hackers and people who do phishing to infiltrate your account with your help, without you noticing. Always be vigilant and keep things private so that you won't attract scammers.

[Emitdama]

This is a serious thing and shouldn't be taken only as an experiment because we are dealing about our wealth here and how did they know that satoshi used a cd rom to store his keys? When in the first place, the guy wants to become anonymous. He doesn't want to share information especially in regards to this matter (private key) as it was a serious thing and what if he get robbed one day. The thief already know where they will look at.

I think that cd's are a bad thing to store your keys because first is they are now becoming obsolete and second one, they can easily get corrupted. A tiny scratch and boom your out of luck to recover your keys anymore.

[The Cryptovator]

I hadn't found an option for voting. Because I maintain a paper notebook to write all of my wallet credentials. I don't support storing wallet credentials on any device or any online cloud storage. Basically I have been using a hardware wallet to store my cryptos and write seeds in my notebook. So in case of recovery, I would use that.

[D ltr]

A thought experiment i wanted to know.
I have saved it in a disc (was inspired by satoshi who stated it that he has saved it and buried it)
memorised and saved in hdd in air gapped though!

save the key not at the right one for me, because there are many possibilities that occur during human error, so at least we still have other alternatives to save it in our favorite place

[blatchcorn]

I hadn't found an option for voting. Because I maintain a paper notebook to write all of my wallet credentials. I don't support storing wallet credentials on any device or any online cloud storage. Basically I have been using a hardware wallet to store my cryptos and write seeds in my notebook. So in case of recovery, I would use that.

These are the golden rules I would say. Storing digitally your credentials is the worst thing one can do, since they are gone as and when your device is compromised. I have lost some huge money as my device was compromised since then I store my wallet credentials on paper and save in my wardrobe.

[ajaxtempest]

I was thinking that can this thread be perma pinned?
Do not want to bump the thread every week or so. Will be a great bitcoin forum experiment.

[NotATether]

I don't know why you don't put as one of the options what I think will be the majority option: written down on a piece of paper and kept in a safe place (or two different safe places).

Probably because most people are sane enough not to attempt to write down private keys on a piece of paper that is easily torn or susceptible to damage by water (wet hands FTW!) and other elements. It's justified for seed phrases though as they are easier to write down without mistakes.

[Wakate]

A thought experiment i wanted to know.
I have saved it in a disc (was inspired by satoshi who stated it that he has saved it and buried it)
memorised and saved in hdd in air gapped though!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr_6H6kXI4o

Private key is an important asset that needs to be keep in a hidden place where nobody will be able to get to or have clue about. I have seen people keeping their private keys buried under their bed. Many might choose to keep in a cd or hard drive but the most important thing is to ensure that it is safe from damage or attack.

If the father of Bitcoin, Satoshi decides to bury his own private key, then that is best know to him. I prefer writing it down and keeping it in a water proof dairy and place it in my inner chamber that no one can thought something is hidden inside.

[DeathAngel]

Probably really isn’t a good idea to make it public where your private keys are stored. This forum is full of highly intellectual people & some very desperate, dishonest people. I would strongly advise against it, any slip in your OPSEC could leave you vulnerable to theft.

[jossiel]

Probably really isn’t a good idea to make it public where your private keys are stored. This forum is full of highly intellectual people & some very desperate, dishonest people. I would strongly advise against it, any slip in your OPSEC could leave you vulnerable to theft.

I agree.

It made me remember those people that are too easy to tell if they own bitcoin in the public and online groups that they know the identities of each other. And they were attacked by those people that have seen their info personally.

But I think on this case, if nobody knows you personally, that won't be much of a threat.

added online\cloud backup. It seems some people are too lazy careless about security.

This shouldn't be done by anyone unless it's encrypted. It's likely the riskiest way of storing your PKs.

[famososMuertos]

Where have you saved your bitcoin keys?
I'm sure you're my neighbor, I just hope not my brother-in-law or worse my wife.

There are questions that are not asked, although I understand "where the shots are going".

Some already said a few posts before on paper wallet, and I would bury them in my garden, although I warn you they are only a few satoshi,   but regardless of the amount, it would be my procedure.







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[jrrsparkles]

In an offline drive, even though it is not the safest still it is convenient and safer compared to other ways. Anyone still using CDs in 2022, Last time I used it almost 5 or 6 years before and now I don't even have a cd drive to read the data if I have and also it is not so much reliable than other storage format.

[cheezcarls]

On top of storing most of my private keys, seed and mnemonic phrases, etc., on my sacred notebook, I also have aluminum steel where I can just engrave these seed phrases to be protected even if it gets exposed in fire and water. But of course, it's better not to include all phrases there, so you must have a separate source where you can keep the final phrase somewhere secure and hard to find in any way.

[tabas]

In an offline drive, even though it is not the safest still it is convenient and safer compared to other ways.

Just still make a backup for that offline drive of yours. You are aware that it's not the safest but as long as you know how to keep it, you will have no problems with that.

Anyone still using CDs in 2022, Last time I used it almost 5 or 6 years before and now I don't even have a cd drive to read the data if I have and also it is not so much reliable than other storage format.

I've just read a post that a data is actually better to keep it on a disk than a SSD because it's more sturdy and data there would be kept for longer years.