LouVandetta
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May 16, 2022, 11:46:21 AM |
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That is how people that provide trading signals do, they will start from free service, build a community, later they will turn to from no fee to the ones that charge fee, after all, people that do not learn trading and have experience in it will make use of their signal service and trade but still lose. Like me, I can never make use of trading signal. Instead, I will advice people to desist from trading signals and learn trading from scratch themselves. This is actually pretty accurate from what I've seen from a bunch of trading signal groups. Not that I followed them, it's because I saw some of em here and there. They usually started with a free signal and them baaam when they've gained quite the community they will start to charge you with their so called "VIP" signals. It's really risky as is when trading but when you put your money into someone else's signals and just believe them, that's just wrong.
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May 16, 2022, 12:33:43 PM |
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So I may ask, what is the benefit that you may have running a service for free? IMO, it's wasting of time, isn't it?
Don't trust this free service, it's more likely it will end up into a pump and dump group which is pumping a shitcoin and then making benefits upon selling them. There's no crypto signal that gives accurate results, especially this free service that I doubt only makes money when they gathered many members of the group.
Just stay away from this group, instead, making your own research will give true benefits as a trader. Dont waste your time with this group.
probably it just a strategy to invite more participants reason it's free, and yes i don't have trust as well when it comes such signal group because indeed mostly are fake ever since before and it can cause losses only if you rely in it. For me IMO much better to pay for courses because surely after all you will have a good results in trading..
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It seems like many Telegram channels provide that service. But I don't think it's good to follow. I think all you need to do is learn, don't rely on others. Not all Telegram channels provide the best signal for you, even their info is often late. If you ingest raw that information then you can be harmed. Yes, it is free, but it is not worth your risk of loss. In addition to free there are also paid, mungkib is a little better because the admin certainly tries to provide the best service. But I don't recommend it all, it's better to learn and not depend on others.
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May 16, 2022, 05:23:00 PM |
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To be honest, I have already spoken about this more than once, but I will not hesitate to remind you again. I am a supporter of the idea that signals also require the ability to analyze. Without this, the trader has quite little chance of success.
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May 16, 2022, 06:09:28 PM |
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As a newbie first of all I recommend you to learn market condition that how it's work and when to take entries . Best long term investments is Bitcoin and Etherium. You can also add Xrp also. These three coins are surviving for long time and we hope that they will also survive in future. If you want to add some more token then look for Solona,Atom and Bnb. I hope you will find best coins.
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May 16, 2022, 07:23:33 PM |
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Sometimes I questioned why this so called expert gives free signal if they are getting high profit of their own, some do it to create coin hype and take advantage of it for his benefit, while others do it to be popular and create their own companies that later on will have fees or enrollment fees to be a member or to get them as a coach, those free is just for a start and to learn more advanced techniques they will later offer programs with payment. At the end of the day it will still be our money we will use to trade so make sure to do proper assessment whether we follow their signals or check their techniques whether also working on us.
The world we are living in right now have another currency that people do not realize that much as a currency. The follower numbers, that is an asset, which means that if you own an account with a lot of followers, you have an asset. Even if you do not make any profit with it, and even if you do not use it, if the follower number is stable, then it worth something today and due to inflation, it will worth more in the future as well. So, if you are giving away free signals, then you are getting followers, and those followers grow to be huge eventually if you are any good, and then you can either take ads and earn money, or you could even sell the account if you want to get out.
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May 16, 2022, 07:28:45 PM |
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I will like to know what their gains are after rendering the free signal service I am just been curious because most free service turns out something else once they have bought the trust of their loyal followers. Do they have any sought of exchange or do the intend trading for their clients over time. One can't trust any channel with their coin any more this days
Same question I was about to ask. The op promised that their signals are good quality but they are too generous to offer it for free in the public. I know some famous influencers in my local, they also offer signals but it was mostly paid. Haven't check the channel yet but maybe they only post their address and ask for some donations, if the signals work well. I think there are also channel where they only give signals to a specific coins (new coins usually) I think they also invest on it or they are simply related to that coin. They are in short want to manipulate it. Lastly there are channels that only want to gain followers so that they can sell it later on for instant money.
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May 16, 2022, 08:00:44 PM |
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I will like to know what their gains are after rendering the free signal service I am just been curious because most free service turns out something else once they have bought the trust of their loyal followers. Do they have any sought of exchange or do the intend trading for their clients over time. One can't trust any channel with their coin any more this days
Same question I was about to ask. The op promised that their signals are good quality but they are too generous to offer it for free in the public. I know some famous influencers in my local, they also offer signals but it was mostly paid. Haven't check the channel yet but maybe they only post their address and ask for some donations, if the signals work well. I think there are also channel where they only give signals to a specific coins (new coins usually) I think they also invest on it or they are simply related to that coin. They are in short want to manipulate it. Lastly there are channels that only want to gain followers so that they can sell it later on for instant money. They make money from advertising. What is the point for them to charge for signals? You can't earn all the money in the world 😂
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May 16, 2022, 10:21:51 PM |
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Do you understand what you are saying? If the channel used to be free, people could see with their own eyes how these signals work.. if they don't work at all, then what's the point of paying money for it? I don't get the meaning of your words 😐
So what i said and what you explain right here what's the difference, you guys should know how to put things, i gave an illustration that some them use such avenue to attract people and after attracting them they have to introduce their main objective why give signal, i don't even comprehend exactly is your major contribution.
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May 16, 2022, 10:35:02 PM |
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I'm looking at the channel, it's still too early for me to say anything about this channel, I saw that it has a lot of price analysis so I need to observe for days to see to what extent they can have good results, of course I do my analysis separately as I always did, but I'm avoiding accusing this channel without proof, it would be something inappropriate on my part if I was judging this channel without evidence, as for OP how long have you known this channel? can you show your results that you had when using this channel?
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Do you understand what you are saying? If the channel used to be free, people could see with their own eyes how these signals work.. if they don't work at all, then what's the point of paying money for it? I don't get the meaning of your words 😐
So what i said and what you explain right here what's the difference, you guys should know how to put things, i gave an illustration that some them use such avenue to attract people and after attracting them they have to introduce their main objective why give signal, i don't even comprehend exactly is your major contribution. Free for now but later on it would really be requiring some fees or something like that but of course you arent that dumb on not to notice those typical objectives on groups like this. Also, i dont see the relevance on making yourself get engaged with these kind of groups where you could actually make your own analysis without needing any signals but if you are really that eager or serious on finding one then it isnt bad to snip out some ideas from others and as long it would be that totally free then i dont see any problems.
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May 16, 2022, 11:56:19 PM |
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Do you understand what you are saying? If the channel used to be free, people could see with their own eyes how these signals work.. if they don't work at all, then what's the point of paying money for it? I don't get the meaning of your words 😐
So what i said and what you explain right here what's the difference, you guys should know how to put things, i gave an illustration that some them use such avenue to attract people and after attracting them they have to introduce their main objective why give signal, i don't even comprehend exactly is your major contribution. Free for now but later on it would really be requiring some fees or something like that but of course you arent that dumb on not to notice those typical objectives on groups like this. Also, i dont see the relevance on making yourself get engaged with these kind of groups where you could actually make your own analysis without needing any signals but if you are really that eager or serious on finding one then it isnt bad to snip out some ideas from others and as long it would be that totally free then i dont see any problems. Maybe they are actually free but I'm sure there's a hidden agenda about this that soon will be revealed but for now, perhaps they would be giving free advices or signals but I'm sure there's something in between with it or they just want more people on their channel so that it would look legit. No matter what these people been doing I can't stop thinking there's something in between with it and that's bothering because you will soon expect it to happen. I'm done with their hidden agenda since it's always on their side so good luck on that or do your own research and never engage to someone if they look suspicious.
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To be honest, I have already spoken about this more than once, but I will not hesitate to remind you again. I am a supporter of the idea that signals also require the ability to analyze. Without this, the trader has quite little chance of success.
I will go further than that and say that someone that relies on signals and does not know how to read the markets on their own will never get long term success, they may win a trade or two and if they use a lot of money their profits could be quite high, but they are relying on their luck in order to get those profits, which means that they cannot replicate those results and that sooner or later that luck will leave them, so sooner or later they will suffer huge losses as they are trading the markets without actually knowing what they are doing.
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So you had never posted in the forum since you created your account in 2018 but felt to argue to wake up today to post about a random crypto signatl group that you "liked" and you think we are going to beleive that?
It's very obvious that it's your crypto signal groups and no, it's not free and should never be trusted for the reasons i will quote here;
Indeed. After few years he just woke up to promote this crypto signals group claiming its free. So probably he's assuming many traders will become interested to join his channel. But why do we have to join in this trading signal if we can do our own analysis. There's a possibility that this group is created to pump and dump a certain coin and those who will believe their signals might end up losing their money. So beware because trading signals are often not reliable.
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FB66H35k%2FScreenshot-2022-05-16-12-38-08-605-org-telegram-messenger.jpg&t=665&c=wE3rMxQ6-z4zfA) I just check the channel and its not really free. There are demands for these kind of groups just as how newbies are reading that analysis of trader's chart. I was one of these newbies who tried their luck learning from what others are saying and then I started reading more to see what charts and indicators tell for them to decide what to do. Just one step I did to be encouraged to learn. But their fees is not for a newbie that has no money. If you have an income of less than $1000 a month, its not for you. Skip it and just watch youtube tutorials. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Friend, no offense, but your message amazes me... I left a link to a website, a link to a channel, and even a link to a screenshot.. as a result, you left a screenshot of a completely different channel here, which has nothing to do with Alpha Research. Then what else can you talk about? I don't understand 😄 Again, just in case you didn't notice: Website link:https://thealpharesearch.comTelegram channel: https://t.me/TheAlphaResearchOfficialIf possible, you can share the channel with your friends. Screen: https://i.ibb.co/FbMmYdb/alpha.pngI don't know about it but your telegram channel can't be found in Telegram search box and when we do the one that appears is t.me/thealpharesearch If you don't allow your channel to be seen by research that's something to be suspicious. Of all name why pick the one that is also doing the same like that channel. But like what the people are saying here. Signal groups often starts with free services until the ask.
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I was thinking already that they are not just offering free but they will always have VIP or paid subscription which is I am not wrong since what's the point of running a crypto service group without asking for fees is it out of charity or luring them to subscription.
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May 17, 2022, 07:55:20 AM |
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I was thinking already that they are not just offering free but they will always have VIP or paid subscription which is I am not wrong since what's the point of running a crypto service group without asking for fees is it out of charity or luring them to subscription.
It's how these groups work, it's free for some simple signals, and we need to pay for VIP signals! Of course, trust is always a problem with these kinds of services, we all know that majority of them turn out to be a scam at one point, but also there are some relatively good ones! As Slow death said, we can't throw accusations without proof! If someone wishes to do that should check the group and analyze their previous signals! All in all, do your own research, and use these kinds of groups to compare your conclusions with theirs! Trusting someone else to do the job for you is always risky!
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May 17, 2022, 09:07:00 AM |
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I was thinking already that they are not just offering free but they will always have VIP or paid subscription which is I am not wrong since what's the point of running a crypto service group without asking for fees is it out of charity or luring them to subscription.
You are correct, they always end up asking people to join VIP signal group which before you can join you have to pay some amounts first, but the OP said the group is free, my question is that what will be the benefits of the people that created the group? Will they be benefiting in any way or will they end up asking people to pay before promoting them to vip group. Seriously I will advise everybody that wants to join to be very careful and actually am not really in support of signal group, I believe doing your analysis yourself as a trader is the best.
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https://i.ibb.co/B66H35k/Screenshot-2022-05-16-12-38-08-605-org-telegram-messenger.jpgI just check the channel and its not really free. There are demands for these kind of groups just as how newbies are reading that analysis of trader's chart. I was one of these newbies who tried their luck learning from what others are saying and then I started reading more to see what charts and indicators tell for them to decide what to do. Just one step I did to be encouraged to learn. But their fees is not for a newbie that has no money. If you have an income of less than $1000 a month, its not for you. Skip it and just watch youtube tutorials. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Friend, no offense, but your message amazes me... I left a link to a website, a link to a channel, and even a link to a screenshot.. as a result, you left a screenshot of a completely different channel here, which has nothing to do with Alpha Research. Then what else can you talk about? I don't understand 😄 Again, just in case you didn't notice: Website link:https://thealpharesearch.comTelegram channel: https://t.me/TheAlphaResearchOfficialIf possible, you can share the channel with your friends. Screen: https://i.ibb.co/FbMmYdb/alpha.pngI don't know about it but your telegram channel can't be found in Telegram search box and when we do the one that appears is t.me/thealpharesearch If you don't allow your channel to be seen by research that's something to be suspicious. Of all name why pick the one that is also doing the same like that channel. But like what the people are saying here. Signal groups often starts with free services until the ask. This channel may not show up in global search in your country due to GEO restrictions. For example, in Russia it can be easily found through the search. You don’t even know how telegram algorithms work, but you are already jumping to conclusions. I'm afraid to imagine how you trade in the market with such primitive thinking if you don't understand elementary things... 😕
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I was thinking already that they are not just offering free but they will always have VIP or paid subscription which is I am not wrong since what's the point of running a crypto service group without asking for fees is it out of charity or luring them to subscription.
You are correct, they always end up asking people to join VIP signal group which before you can join you have to pay some amounts first, but the OP said the group is free, my question is that what will be the benefits of the people that created the group? Will they be benefiting in any way or will they end up asking people to pay before promoting them to vip group. Seriously I will advise everybody that wants to join to be very careful and actually am not really in support of signal group, I believe doing your analysis yourself as a trader is the best. I think if this channel had a paid VIP subscription plan, then you would throw an even bigger tantrum here and shout the loudest that this is another SCAAAAAAM .. 😂 Eh, sometimes it's hard to understand what such people have in their heads..
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