Bitcoin price with a 4 year cycle?

[posi]

this is what i said in this thread it doesn't seem to have to wait a long time to get the next ATH let alone have to wait 4 years as happened in 2013, 2017 and 2021 last year, i think positively about this

Do you mean we don't need a 4 year cycle anymore, next year??

Of course it will be good news if the cycle disappears, because everyone will certainly see all prices will continue to rise, right, then what is the prediction for the ATH movement to occur, whether this year or the following year.

The years mentioned fit perfectly into the cycle that has occurred in that year, and everything that is said looks very positive!!

people feel the 4 year cycle is good, look when people know the price goes up and down on the bitcoin price of course they are ready to throw away when to buy it, so it's easy to guess and will continue to take victims for beginners who don't know it when they come buy then old traders sell it, let's see again the 4 year cycle this time is different because many famous companies and famous people have invested in bitcoin so don't expect it to make history repeat itself again and again, whenever bitcoin will go to another new ATH without having to wait 4 years, it could be next year or the following year

Many people are predicting bitcoin will only hit new ATHs after the halving takes place, only you are pretty positive saying that bitcoin's 4 year cycle is over. I will not dare to tell you if the 4-year cycle will repeat or not but I can say that the price of bitcoin next year will also be very difficult to rise again because the world situation is still very unstable, the war continues and the crisis does not end soon, the market will not be able to recover.
The market is almost strongly influenced by the Fed's interest rates, and the Fed announced in 2023 it is ready to raise interest rates to new highs until inflation is really under control. So I think in 2023 we will really bottom and in 2024 the market could start to recover.

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[bitpotter]

I still believe that bitcoin's ATH cycle remains once every 4 years. Now we can see in this year the market is too weak like in 2018 after ATH 2017 and tends to be very stable it's very boring. So the speculation circulating in the media is very difficult to follow because the market is also difficult to predict.

[piebeyb]

I don't understand why you are saying that this cycle is different from previous ones. It seems to me that the current situation is not different from what it was in 2018. After a good rise came a long bear market. We can now expect a bounce as it was in 2019. My view is that the main thing in these four-year cycles is not to repeat scenarios but to halving the reward for the block. And this halving is embedded in the source code, which will be repeated regularly every four years.

your account is registered in 2017 which is a 4 year cycle year in stage 2, did you look before also in a 4 year cycle first stage in 2013, look at each history and look at the year 2021 yesterday, pay attention to the charts and every moment is not always the same

Many people are predicting bitcoin will only hit new ATHs after the halving takes place, only you are pretty positive saying that bitcoin's 4 year cycle is over. I will not dare to tell you if the 4-year cycle will repeat or not but I can say that the price of bitcoin next year will also be very difficult to rise again because the world situation is still very unstable, the war continues and the crisis does not end soon, the market will not be able to recover.
The market is almost strongly influenced by the Fed's interest rates, and the Fed announced in 2023 it is ready to raise interest rates to new highs until inflation is really under control. So I think in 2023 we will really bottom and in 2024 the market could start to recover.

yes it is common after halving because of the reduction in the number of block rewards which means the supply of bitcoin is getting harder and less to print, but I say that we don't have to wait 4 years to get new ATH it all depends on the demand from big money holders in the future, I appreciate all the thoughts of friends here

I still believe that bitcoin's ATH cycle remains once every 4 years. Now we can see in this year the market is too weak like in 2018 after ATH 2017 and tends to be very stable it's very boring. So the speculation circulating in the media is very difficult to follow because the market is also difficult to predict.

that's why I say it's hard to predict where the market is going actually, considering that 2021 yesterday didn't last long the bulls there all fell in the middle of the year, so whether it's called a bullish year, I don't think so

[Ani1985]

If we notice that the 4 -year trend has occurred 2 times, namely skyrocketing prices in 2013 and 2017 then the market drops occurred in 2014 and 2018, now we enter the third period, namely 2021 prices skyrocketing and 2022 prices drop again, but this is a good signal to buy more.

[piebeyb]

If we notice that the 4 -year trend has occurred 2 times, namely skyrocketing prices in 2013 and 2017 then the market drops occurred in 2014 and 2018, now we enter the third period, namely 2021 prices skyrocketing and 2022 prices drop again, but this is a good signal to buy more.

we need a lot of smart people like you, the cycle doesn't really matter, we have to realize that this is the right moment to buy a lot because we are already below the lowest price, when the train runs then everyone will be left behind

[piebeyb]

I don't think the date of account registration on this forum is a serious indicator. By the way, there were four-year cycles prior to 2017 too, due to halving. Speaking of 2018 and 2022 I only mentioned relatively recent events. I agree that no scenario is the same. I said that these cycles are solely linked to halving and one should pay attention to this event, which is repeated every four years.

Actually if you want to see history, look at where it started, Did you read my thread before this thread was created, read here " Bitcoin Prediction 2020 - 2021 " and you will find out I've been discussing that since last 2018

[rodskee]

I still believe that bitcoin's ATH cycle remains once every 4 years. Now we can see in this year the market is too weak like in 2018 after ATH 2017 and tends to be very stable it's very boring. So the speculation circulating in the media is very difficult to follow because the market is also difficult to predict.

But if you check out every year ATL then you will see something unusual happening this year. If all the previous year yearly ATL was above previous year ATL even in the bear season. This time that doesn't happen. We had a yearly ATL closing below previous year. Right now i do not have the chart to show you that but its clearly shown in CMC chart in yearly timeframe.

Even if there are  different ways this year? yet we can see that  the year is still holding and the market still shows high future, yes the ATL this year maybe different from this one but look at how much it maintain the value the whole year.

and also ATH is what we are looking and seems to be coming in the next coming year at least 3 years from now.

[bitpotter]

I still believe that bitcoin's ATH cycle remains once every 4 years. Now we can see in this year the market is too weak like in 2018 after ATH 2017 and tends to be very stable it's very boring. So the speculation circulating in the media is very difficult to follow because the market is also difficult to predict.

that's why I say it's hard to predict where the market is going actually, considering that 2021 yesterday didn't last long the bulls there all fell in the middle of the year, so whether it's called a bullish year, I don't think so

If you look at the history of bitcoin ATH in 2014 and 2017 it usually happened and even lasted until November or December, but the bull market in 2021 was just the opposite in September it was over. It's a shame but that's the way it is, we have to accept it. But so far bitcoin is going to get better despite the controversy out there.

[piebeyb]

I still believe that bitcoin's ATH cycle remains once every 4 years. Now we can see in this year the market is too weak like in 2018 after ATH 2017 and tends to be very stable it's very boring. So the speculation circulating in the media is very difficult to follow because the market is also difficult to predict.

that's why I say it's hard to predict where the market is going actually, considering that 2021 yesterday didn't last long the bulls there all fell in the middle of the year, so whether it's called a bullish year, I don't think so

If you look at the history of bitcoin ATH in 2014 and 2017 it usually happened and even lasted until November or December, but the bull market in 2021 was just the opposite in September it was over. It's a shame but that's the way it is, we have to accept it. But so far bitcoin is going to get better despite the controversy out there.

I've said before history is never the same even though it keeps repeating itself but not always on time, so I also know a lot right now the crisis is everywhere and inflation as well as rising interest rates even the russia war has an effect on the bitcoin price too, but I think bitcoin is the way out of it all it's just that a lot of people don't realize that

[piebeyb]

All the four years circle of Bitcoin is just a speculation which i know that Bitcoin itself can change the price anytime without the waiting for for the speculated time people mention in cryptocurrency, so i believe that price of Bitcoin will increase when people who is crypto investors enter market, so that's what i believe that Bitcoin can make the price to rise by the investors

the 4 year cycle has happened 3 times and it's on time, it's just that the 2021 meeting didn't really reach the real target, so just saying each cycle has its own story sometimes not everything has to be the same as the previous history that's why I feel we don't have to wait 4 years to see other new ATH

[bitterguy28]

All the four years circle of Bitcoin is just a speculation which i know that Bitcoin itself can change the price anytime without the waiting for for the speculated time people mention in cryptocurrency, so i believe that price of Bitcoin will increase when people who is crypto investors enter market, so that's what i believe that Bitcoin can make the price to rise by the investors

the 4 year cycle has happened 3 times and it's on time, it's just that the 2021 meeting didn't really reach the real target, so just saying each cycle has its own story sometimes not everything has to be the same as the previous history that's why I feel we don't have to wait 4 years to see other new ATH

Sorry for noob  question mate , but what is the target in 2021 meeting because knowing what happened that year?it is obvious that we reached another ATH and that is truly huge.

but just now that i heard that there is not meeting that time.

I still believe that bitcoin's ATH cycle remains once every 4 years. Now we can see in this year the market is too weak like in 2018 after ATH 2017 and tends to be very stable it's very boring. So the speculation circulating in the media is very difficult to follow because the market is also difficult to predict.

But if you check out every year ATL then you will see something unusual happening this year. If all the previous year yearly ATL was above previous year ATL even in the bear season. This time that doesn't happen. We had a yearly ATL closing below previous year. Right now i do not have the chart to show you that but its clearly shown in CMC chart in yearly timeframe.

I'm not sure what is that Unusual this year? but at least there is best happening in the end of this year.

[Davian144]

Ethereum is also more reasonable and there are even some other old altcoins that can be used as investments, because old altcoins that have been very tested through this 4 year cycle stage for the umpteenth time of course they are more resilient than new altcoins born 1 or 3 years ago.

In addition to Ethereum as an altcoin that has been proven to be strong in the market and has also been in the market for a very long time, I see BNB and Dogecoin are also included in the old altcoins that can be chosen for investment, but if possible, Dogecoin should only be invested in the short term because apart from frequent experienced an increase in price when Bitcoin began to increase its price in the market or during the four-year cycle, Dogecoin is also still very vulnerable to a decline in the market even though Dogecoin is included in the altcoin that has been super long in the crypto space.

This is where we have to be careful and more thorough before spending too much money trying to invest in new projects, because usually newly released projects or small projects can be easily manipulated, the volume will increase significantly so that everyone (old / new investors)  will compete to try the opportunity to be able to make multiple profits because the related coins are booming

People who are often tempted by new projects and see greater profit opportunities from new projects are those who do not do in-depth research. So that they immediately make a decision to enter into the new project without considering the risks which are also far greater than the profit opportunities that are seen or offered by the new project. I personally prefer to ignore it if the project development is still very little and the cooperation relationship is still very lacking, because it is the basic foundation of the project to be able to stay strong in the crypto space and also be able to make new project products develop with more people who like it.

[piebeyb]

Sorry for noob  question mate , but what is the target in 2021 meeting because knowing what happened that year?it is obvious that we reached another ATH and that is truly huge.

but just now that i heard that there is not meeting that time.

not hitting $100k is a flop, but $69k isn't any worse either so just saying that we're not really touching actual ATH is in my view not the same as a lot of people in this thread think

In addition to Ethereum as an altcoin that has been proven to be strong in the market and has also been in the market for a very long time, I see BNB and Dogecoin are also included in the old altcoins that can be chosen for investment, but if possible, Dogecoin should only be invested in the short term because apart from frequent experienced an increase in price when Bitcoin began to increase its price in the market or during the four-year cycle, Dogecoin is also still very vulnerable to a decline in the market even though Dogecoin is included in the altcoin that has been super long in the crypto space.

i don't want to mention much about old altcoins but all will be able to find out which ones are old altcoins and which are new altcoins, so people can choose to invest there not sure on dogecoin but he is also in the top 10

[STT]

Happens in all markets that some big funds will only take a trade and/or hold an asset when its moving above its 200 day average.  BTC has been below that measure for most of this year hence some will avoid this asset as valid till thats true, its some self confirmation that we lose momentum at that point things slow down to more certain levels like right now.


  Dont think I have to zoom out to 4 year that often, just observing 50 days is probably enough to give me a very good hint how positive we are so thats how I view BTC for now.  We reject back below 50 day and BTC isnt that strong for now, it is becoming very flat though which allows for a base to break from ?  The gradient on the MA itself is not as negative, some ironic positive perhaps.

[piebeyb]

Happens in all markets that some big funds will only take a trade and/or hold an asset when its moving above its 200 day average.  BTC has been below that measure for most of this year hence some will avoid this asset as valid till that till, its some self confirmation that we lose momentum at that point things slow down to more certain levels like right now.


  Dont think I have to zoom out to 4 year that often, just observing 50 days is probably enough to give me a very good hint how positive we are so thats how I view BTC for now.  We reject back below 50 day and BTC isnt that strong for now, it is becoming very flat though which allows for a base to break from ?  The gradient on the MA itself is not as negative, some ironic positive perhaps.

it's clear and easy to understand we need analysis like this here, everyone has their own analysis and even speculates according to their experience during their life in crypto, especially analyzing the price of bitcoin it's really not ready to recover but I believe bitcoin is the answer to what is happening with economic problems out there, it's just that we still need time for them to come here invest in bitcoin without any more shitcoins

the price will still hold on to the $19k price and the $20k is still flat

[Davian144]

by the way, about the 4 year cycle of Bitcoin it just happened by chance or it was planned by certain organizations so that they could schedule when to get bigger profits, as we know the price of Bitcoin can be easily manipulated by a group of people or an organization

If I take it personally, I think it happened by chance because at any given moment the big investors as well as the owners of well-known companies were making huge purchases. So it gives a lot of increasing effect on Bitcoin and that is a very reasonable thing in my opinion than having to accuse a group of people or organizations of trying to manipulate the price of Bitcoin. Because without an increase in the number of purchases in the market, it is clear that it will be difficult to increase the price of Bitcoin itself at any given time.

[piebeyb]

by the way, about the 4 year cycle of Bitcoin it just happened by chance or it was planned by certain organizations so that they could schedule when to get bigger profits, as we know the price of Bitcoin can be easily manipulated by a group of people or an organization

maybe you watch too much youtube about secret organizations, but whatever it is the price of bitcoin is usually due to limited supply so people buy it too sometimes they come because of fomo

by the way, about the 4 year cycle of Bitcoin it just happened by chance or it was planned by certain organizations so that they could schedule when to get bigger profits, as we know the price of Bitcoin can be easily manipulated by a group of people or an organization

If I take it personally, I think it happened by chance because at any given moment the big investors as well as the owners of well-known companies were making huge purchases. So it gives a lot of increasing effect on Bitcoin and that is a very reasonable thing in my opinion than having to accuse a group of people or organizations of trying to manipulate the price of Bitcoin. Because without an increase in the number of purchases in the market, it is clear that it will be difficult to increase the price of Bitcoin itself at any given time.

as I said this 4 year cycle has happened 3 times, every cycle we have big investors, for example in yesterday's cycle we have many big companies and even big investors, rich people enter the crypto world and invest in bitcoin, so what will it be? the same as the previous cycle, I don't think so, there will be a difference when this bearish is different from the previous bearish

[fadhilz123]

Now Bitcoin has increased by 4 percent and Ethereum has increased by 10 percent in the market. This indicates that Ethereum is still the altcoin that closely follows Bitcoin's movement in the market and is also the altcoin that follows a four-year cycle for greater improvement.



And if you look at the Bitcoin price cycle at the moment, I see the price level is also not too far from the Bitcoin price at the end of 2017 (even though at that time it was called ATH for Bitcoin), but for now I think this is the lowest price for Bitcoin. Bitcoin despite a lot of speculation from people who say that the decline in Bitcoin will continue again this year.

[piebeyb]

Now Bitcoin has increased by 4 percent and Ethereum has increased by 10 percent in the market. This indicates that Ethereum is still the altcoin that closely follows Bitcoin's movement in the market and is also the altcoin that follows a four-year cycle for greater improvement.



And if you look at the Bitcoin price cycle at the moment, I see the price level is also not too far from the Bitcoin price at the end of 2017 (even though at that time it was called ATH for Bitcoin), but for now I think this is the lowest price for Bitcoin. Bitcoin despite a lot of speculation from people who say that the decline in Bitcoin will continue again this year.

bitcoin for some time is only playing at $19k and $20k as I said before, people don't notice that every cycle there is always a difference and it's never the same, because of market conditions and investors who invest, look at one of them is Elon musk although I don't like it but in the third cycle year before 2021 how many big companies invest in bitcoin as well as rich people or famous artists even state leaders, it's different from the previous cycle where bitcoin has no one and the price falls more sharply, that's why I say again this is all the economic problems that exist today the solution is bitcoin and i believe that bitcoin will recover faster than people imagine

[carlfebz2]

by the way, about the 4 year cycle of Bitcoin it just happened by chance or it was planned by certain organizations so that they could schedule when to get bigger profits, as we know the price of Bitcoin can be easily manipulated by a group of people or an organization

If I take it personally, I think it happened by chance because at any given moment the big investors as well as the owners of well-known companies were making huge purchases. So it gives a lot of increasing effect on Bitcoin and that is a very reasonable thing in my opinion than having to accuse a group of people or organizations of trying to manipulate the price of Bitcoin. Because without an increase in the number of purchases in the market, it is clear that it will be difficult to increase the price of Bitcoin itself at any given time.

Purchases made wont really be that focusing on those fewer entities.Yes, they might that bring up some significant effect on price movement but having manipulative actions cant really be done easily considering

on how huge the cap is then it would really be that impossible on giving huge price movement.Speaking about cycles then it cant really be avoided for people to say that there would be some price increase specially

on halving times but well its not always been assured since no one could precisely predict on what would be the things could happen in future.It all matters with recognition and adoption
or simply with the community demand plus those other factors which would affect the market entirely.