PC gamers taking things too serious?

[adaseb]

It’s hard to say which GPU is better

1) Which was overvolted and overclocked inside an closed computer case with bad ventilation which was gamed for 1-2 hours a day for 1 year.

2) Under bolted and under clocked open air GPU which was used 24/7/365.

Which would you pick if you were a buyer?

[philipma1957]

It’s hard to say which GPU is better

1) Which was overvolted and overclocked inside an closed computer case with bad ventilation which was gamed for 1-2 hours a day for 1 year.

2) Under bolted and under clocked open air GPU which was used 24/7/365.

Which would you pick if you were a buyer?

from my experience if you treat cards properly while mining they last and don't break

I build for gamers , miners, (gamer/miner)

My rigs are very trouble free and they use older gpu's I mined with correctly.  I do not get many returns. With year old mining gpus.

Most people that really game hard push cards hard really hard.

And they blow up their cards often.

If you read the EVGA forums a ton of people run 3090's at 450 watts. I run mine at 295-315 watts. I have 18 3090's with a fail rate of 0

gamers kill off their 3090's a lot more often than I do.


lots of threads on dead gear

https://forums.evga.com/Second-3090-FTW-Hybrid-dead-m3552346.aspx

https://forums.evga.com/2-out-of-3-fans-on-my-3090-dead-Worth-doing-an-RMA-just-for-2-dead-fans-m3552188.aspx


https://forums.evga.com/3090-FTW-Hybrid-Death-Dilemma-m3552147.aspx


https://forums.evga.com/RTX-3090-EVGA-FTW3-Starts-to-desktop-and-then-lose-signal-m3550942.aspx

[JayDDee]

It’s hard to say which GPU is better

1) Which was overvolted and overclocked inside an closed computer case with bad ventilation which was gamed for 1-2 hours a day for 1 year.

2) Under bolted and under clocked open air GPU which was used 24/7/365.

Which would you pick if you were a buyer?

Similar to what I was thinking. Miners take better care of their hardware. Sometimes they even mine in a data centre environment,
clean, dry and cool.

[philipma1957]

It’s hard to say which GPU is better

1) Which was overvolted and overclocked inside an closed computer case with bad ventilation which was gamed for 1-2 hours a day for 1 year.

2) Under bolted and under clocked open air GPU which was used 24/7/365.

Which would you pick if you were a buyer?

Similar to what I was thinking. Miners take better care of their hardware. Sometimes they even mine in a data centre environment,
clean, dry and cool.

Once I understood gpu mining is a marathon and not a sprint I never power cards hard I never power fans hard I never do the higher memory clock settings.

if a 3090 can do 1100 + on smos for its best I find how low I can do for the clock say 850

I rather the card do 107-111 mh and never fuck up then do 121 mh and die in six months.

[Rikimaruu]

Why do gamers try as much as possible to avoid graphic cards that have been used for mining before? Is this even making sense because it looks like tech illiteracy to me, does it makes any difference when mining to gaming because my gaming PC is always built ot upgrade with GPU that I have used for mining and there isn't any issue.

Most casual gamers in my country use $140-$200 video cards, they are 8-18 year olds. I myself play on such a video card, and in my free time I use it in mining.Now a new video card can be bought cheaper than a used one.

Which country are you from @FP91G, I really want to know because I haven't heard where new things are more costly than used things, it doesn't make any sense and if it's true I will like buy from your country, will be more easier if there is a online store based in your country too.

[Coinfarm ventures]

I rather the card do 107-111 mh and never fuck up then do 121 mh and die in six months.

That's right, spending +10% on power just to get a +3% increase in hashrate usually isn't worth it. Thermal capacity can also be a problem. Let's say I rent a house which has enough tons of A/C to handle 100 video cards. If I cut power usage by 10%, I can fit 110 cards, which actually means 7% more hashrate.

[MetaMii]

I rather the card do 107-111 mh and never fuck up then do 121 mh and die in six months.

That's right, spending +10% on power just to get a +3% increase in hashrate usually isn't worth it. Thermal capacity can also be a problem. Let's say I rent a house which has enough tons of A/C to handle 100 video cards. If I cut power usage by 10%, I can fit 110 cards, which actually means 7% more hashrate.

Overclocking graphic cards isn't good, gamers do this many times but not miners, this is one of the ways that a GPU can die very fast, we want to run graphic cards in a cooling state than OCing for max performance, this is pro miner's way.

[Coinfarm ventures]

Overclocking graphic cards isn't good, gamers do this many times but not miners, this is one of the ways that a GPU can die very fast, we want to run graphic cards in a cooling state than OCing for max performance, this is pro miner's way.

I already know that. I was talking about underclocking even more.

[Synerggy]

Mining keeps graphic cards alive than gaming, I have a 3070 ti with a high temp issue and I've ordered for thermal pad and paste but I am still able to use this graphic card for gaming because I just use MSI Afterburner to downclock the graphic card and the memory temp is stable at 87°C.   . so you are right gamers don't know anything about graphic cards like miners do.

[Wincob]

It’s hard to say which GPU is better

1) Which was overvolted and overclocked inside an closed computer case with bad ventilation which was gamed for 1-2 hours a day for 1 year.

2) Under bolted and under clocked open air GPU which was used 24/7/365.

Which would you pick if you were a buyer?

from my experience if you treat cards properly while mining they last and don't break

I build for gamers , miners, (gamer/miner)

My rigs are very trouble free and they use older gpu's I mined with correctly.  I do not get many returns. With year old mining gpus.

Most people that really game hard push cards hard really hard.

And they blow up their cards often.

If you read the EVGA forums a ton of people run 3090's at 450 watts. I run mine at 295-315 watts. I have 18 3090's with a fail rate of 0

gamers kill off their 3090's a lot more often than I do.


lots of threads on dead gear

https://forums.evga.com/Second-3090-FTW-Hybrid-dead-m3552346.aspx

https://forums.evga.com/2-out-of-3-fans-on-my-3090-dead-Worth-doing-an-RMA-just-for-2-dead-fans-m3552188.aspx


https://forums.evga.com/3090-FTW-Hybrid-Death-Dilemma-m3552147.aspx


https://forums.evga.com/RTX-3090-EVGA-FTW3-Starts-to-desktop-and-then-lose-signal-m3550942.aspx

Makes sense, using a 3070 Ti for gaming and my power consumption is 180watt, fixed with MSI afterburner and set to auto after every reboots, with heavy gaming I've not seen near 90°C on memory temp.

[sabercrypto]

my friend bought 5700xt before mining craze he is only using it for gaming while i also have 5700xt use for mining. mine still alive and kicking while his 5700xt broke down after warranty. just sharing.

[FP91G]

my friend bought 5700xt before mining craze he is only using it for gaming while i also have 5700xt use for mining. mine still alive and kicking while his 5700xt broke down after warranty. just sharing.

There can be many reasons for a broken video card. Stupid people buy gaming computers in small cases because they are beautiful and compact, but the graphics card gets very hot there. And if this PC is not cleaned and listened to for several years, then breakdowns are possible. And miners monitor the temperature of the video card, so their equipment works for a long time.

[adaseb]

my friend bought 5700xt before mining craze he is only using it for gaming while i also have 5700xt use for mining. mine still alive and kicking while his 5700xt broke down after warranty. just sharing.

There can be many reasons for a broken video card. Stupid people buy gaming computers in small cases because they are beautiful and compact, but the graphics card gets very hot there. And if this PC is not cleaned and listened to for several years, then breakdowns are possible. And miners monitor the temperature of the video card, so their equipment works for a long time.

I don't think the lack of maintainance of a PC case is the reason why GPUs fail. They generally usually only fail due to a manufactuering defect. The only component that a bad case can have on a GPU is the fans can die quicker because they spin faster and longer. On the bios there are safe guards to shutdown the GPU if the temperature gets too high or start throttling.

[BitKongy]

my friend bought 5700xt before mining craze he is only using it for gaming while i also have 5700xt use for mining. mine still alive and kicking while his 5700xt broke down after warranty. just sharing.

There can be many reasons for a broken video card. Stupid people buy gaming computers in small cases because they are beautiful and compact, but the graphics card gets very hot there. And if this PC is not cleaned and listened to for several years, then breakdowns are possible. And miners monitor the temperature of the video card, so their equipment works for a long time.

Correct, I used to own a 1660 GTX that I use for gaming and I have those gaming cases that have transparent cover on won't looks shiny and attractive but after I upgraded my GPU to 3070 ti my temp jumps higher after 3 minutes of gaming, I had to open the case and underclock the GPU then the result is so dearing,