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August 22, 2022, 01:14:55 AM
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most people have more appreciation for GGG, I don't know if maybe he as a person has more charisma, something they like and want to see him succeed,
Maybe one of the reason why many people are rooting for GGG  is the fact that in this fight he doesnt have a win yet. Thus fans are looking forward for him to take down Canelo especially his previous fights (before this) are a victory for him, its like he redeem himself after his loss.

but in boxing not everything is numbers and statistics, it's the real part, real life, and really even though both boxers have failed along their paths, it will be interesting to see this fight.
Thats true. This will be a great fight that we've been waiting for years.
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August 22, 2022, 08:18:04 AM
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most people have more appreciation for GGG, I don't know if maybe he as a person has more charisma, something they like and want to see him succeed,
Maybe one of the reason why many people are rooting for GGG  is the fact that in this fight he doesnt have a win yet. Thus fans are looking forward for him to take down Canelo especially his previous fights (before this) are a victory for him, its like he redeem himself after his loss.
And also because some think that he was robbed in the 2 fights. He has not won the last two fights but it was a close one, so now, we have the possible final fight, because if Canelo would still win here, it's going to be over, even if it still has a controversial result.


but in boxing not everything is numbers and statistics, it's the real part, real life, and really even though both boxers have failed along their paths, it will be interesting to see this fight.
Thats true. This will be a great fight that we've been waiting for years.
Thanks to Canelo losing to Bivol, because if that didn't happen, we might not see this fight.

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August 22, 2022, 09:26:00 AM
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but in boxing not everything is numbers and statistics, it's the real part, real life, and really even though both boxers have failed along their paths, it will be interesting to see this fight.
Thats true. This will be a great fight that we've been waiting for years.
Thanks to Canelo losing to Bivol, because if that didn't happen, we might not see this fight.

Possible, but I think when Canelo re-sign with Matchroom and DAZN, he knows that sooner or later this fight is going to happen regardless of the result of of his fight wit Bivol.

But the thing is, when Canelo losses that fight, it add an extra motivation for him to fight GGG because he knows that he can get back in track as the cash cow and p4p #1 with a victory here.

So we will see after this fight if Canelo will extend his contract again with Eddie Hearn and the DAZN.

 
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August 22, 2022, 12:10:44 PM
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but in boxing not everything is numbers and statistics, it's the real part, real life, and really even though both boxers have failed along their paths, it will be interesting to see this fight.
Thats true. This will be a great fight that we've been waiting for years.
Thanks to Canelo losing to Bivol, because if that didn't happen, we might not see this fight.

Possible, but I think when Canelo re-sign with Matchroom and DAZN, he knows that sooner or later this fight is going to happen regardless of the result of of his fight wit Bivol.

But the thing is, when Canelo losses that fight, it add an extra motivation for him to fight GGG because he knows that he can get back in track as the cash cow and p4p #1 with a victory here.

So we will see after this fight if Canelo will extend his contract again with Eddie Hearn and the DAZN.

A wise decision by Canelo, and that really was a blessing for us because we have been anticipating this fight and now it's coming into reality. Well, we all know that although Canelo won in their last fight, it's still not guaranteed that he will win here like what bookies are thinking, I like to believe that bookies are overvaluing Canelo in this fight.

About motivation? I'm pretty sure both fighters are motivated.

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August 22, 2022, 03:46:01 PM
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About motivation? I'm pretty sure both fighters are motivated.

Well said, both fighters are motivated and they will try to win the fight in all cause, siding Canelo he needs to win to make more money making

fights, while with GGG, he wanted to revenge and prove that he deserves the win. Both previous fights between them are controversial and GGG

fans believe that he's been robbed by the judges, and that's the essence of having this trilogy to see if this long time question will be concluded

or another fight will take place in-case GGG wins here.
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August 22, 2022, 04:01:32 PM
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Middle East is more suitable because it is a neutral place to fight for the both boxers rather than fighting again in American soil where Bivol might face the same situation he had in their first encounter.

But a cruiserweight fight for Canelo might be too much for him as we already saw his performance in light-heavy, I mean what's more if he will fight in cruiserweight? He might be strong but his moves will be much calculated by his foes as he won't be that fast enough in cruiserweight. Anyway, let's see Canelo's decision after this trilogy.

Cruiserweight is to much for Canelo. Not only boxers there are heavier and stronger, but they are often taller. He would have to go to close distance to have any success, but his face will be smashed with heavy jabs all the time. Besides, he has only two fights in light heavy. A loss to Bivol, and a victory over Kovalev, who seems to be selling his belt for several millions, instead of boxing, plus he was not in his prime already. Light weight has still bunch of good opponents for Canelo, if he finds middleweight or super middle weight boring or empty for him.

Right! It will be an overstatement if we say that he will do just fine in cruiserweight because we saw how he performed against a young champion in light-heavyweight, or at least his speed is not that hard to read anymore because of the added weight. By now, Canelo and his team are trying to weigh things if they should try and tie the score against Bivol because it's not an easy challenge for Canelo and it's too risky to be defeated by the same boxer twice. Also, the other champion in light-heavy is Artur Beterbiev, I can't really say that Canelo will be the one to end his long-standing KO streak.


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August 22, 2022, 04:06:17 PM
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Middle East is more suitable because it is a neutral place to fight for the both boxers rather than fighting again in American soil where Bivol might face the same situation he had in their first encounter.

But a cruiserweight fight for Canelo might be too much for him as we already saw his performance in light-heavy, I mean what's more if he will fight in cruiserweight? He might be strong but his moves will be much calculated by his foes as he won't be that fast enough in cruiserweight. Anyway, let's see Canelo's decision after this trilogy.

Yes, after this trilogy, Canelo's camp may explore to which division he wanted to bring his greatness. He needs to take care

of this upcoming fight first, as he needs to re-claim his name after that defeat for Bivol. They might be taking that road once

the fight was already done. If he concludes this rivalry in winning this upcoming fight. There are many options as Canelo is still in his

prime, he can choose what direction for his career and for more flowing money inside his pocket.

Money is not a problem for Canelo this time because he already knew that he will be followed by it wherever he will go or whoever he faces but it will be more profitable for them if the other boxer is also a title holder. We may see Canelo chasing Bivol again after this upcoming trilogy but that's not yet sure as we know that there's still a 3rd boxer that Canelo has to face after GGG as it is written in his contract.

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August 22, 2022, 10:13:13 PM
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Thanks to Canelo losing to Bivol, because if that didn't happen, we might not see this fight.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believed regardless of the result of the Bivol-Canelo match, the trilogy fight between Canelo and GGG will still materialize. That's already on Canelo's timeline this year. Instead, what I'm thinking is, that if GGG were defeated by Murata, that might ruin the negotiations regarding the trilogy.

Moving forward, we are all fortunate to witness the upcoming trilogy that was being requested for years.

Let's hope for no controversial issues that will happened in this fight.

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August 22, 2022, 11:51:34 PM
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Maybe one of the reason why many people are rooting for GGG  is the fact that in this fight he doesnt have a win yet. Thus fans are looking forward for him to take down Canelo especially his previous fights (before this) are a victory for him, its like he redeem himself after his loss.

In my case, I like GGG to win since he's now in his retirement period. Canelo still has more chance and is considered still in his prime. And I feel GGG was robbed in those 2 fights, especially the 1st match where there is a huge gap in scores given by one of the judges.

If Canelo really dominates GGG at all of their meetups, there should be no trilogy that will be demanded by the majority. Canelo is not even interested in the trilogy at first even though his record against GGG is just 1 Win - 1 Draw.

He thinks that he already owned GGG with a 2-0 standing that's why no need for a trilogy. Arrogant and boastful.
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August 23, 2022, 03:48:47 AM
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In my case, I like GGG to win since he's now in his retirement period. Canelo still has more chance and is considered still in his prime. And I feel GGG was robbed in those 2 fights, especially the 1st match where there is a huge gap in scores given by one of the judges.

If Canelo really dominates GGG at all of their meetups, there should be no trilogy that will be demanded by the majority. Canelo is not even interested in the trilogy at first even though his record against GGG is just 1 Win - 1 Draw.

He thinks that he already owned GGG with a 2-0 standing that's why no need for a trilogy. Arrogant and boastful.

Well.. you can't say that GGG is in "retirement period". He maybe close to retirement (still at least 2 years away IMO), but he hasn't given any hint as of yet. And although I agree with the fact that Golovkin was robbed in the first two matches, that is not the reason why I want him to win. I have been a big fan of Golovkin ever since I started following boxing. Most of my favorite boxers have retired by now (Klitschko brothers, Pacquiao, Mike Tyson.etc). Golovkin is one of those athletes who keep me interested in boxing.

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In my case, I like GGG to win since he's now in his retirement period. Canelo still has more chance and is considered still in his prime. And I feel GGG was robbed in those 2 fights, especially the 1st match where there is a huge gap in scores given by one of the judges.

If Canelo really dominates GGG at all of their meetups, there should be no trilogy that will be demanded by the majority. Canelo is not even interested in the trilogy at first even though his record against GGG is just 1 Win - 1 Draw.

He thinks that he already owned GGG with a 2-0 standing that's why no need for a trilogy. Arrogant and boastful.

Well.. you can't say that GGG is in "retirement period". He maybe close to retirement (still at least 2 years away IMO), but he hasn't given any hint as of yet. And although I agree with the fact that Golovkin was robbed in the first two matches, that is not the reason why I want him to win. I have been a big fan of Golovkin ever since I started following boxing. Most of my favorite boxers have retired by now (Klitschko brothers, Pacquiao, Mike Tyson.etc). Golovkin is one of those athletes who keep me interested in boxing.

I feel like Golovkin will have to fight defensively in this match against Canelo. Golovkin will know that since he is an experienced veteran in this sport. Apparently, I believe that he will not have much time left in his career for some reason. There are probably very few fights left for him as well. I want him to win solely because of that.

It’s not like I think he is not a capable fighter anymore. There is no doubt that he is a very capable fighter. In addition to that, he is also over 40 years old. With 42 wins, one draw, and only one loss in his career, he has achieved a remarkable record. I wish him the best of luck in making it to 43 Smiley

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I feel like Golovkin will have to fight defensively in this match against Canelo. Golovkin will know that since he is an experienced veteran in this sport. Apparently, I believe that he will not have much time left in his career for some reason. There are probably very few fights left for him as well. I want him to win solely because of that.

It’s not like I think he is not a capable fighter anymore. There is no doubt that he is a very capable fighter. In addition to that, he is also over 40 years old. With 42 wins, one draw, and only one loss in his career, he has achieved a remarkable record. I wish him the best of luck in making it to 43 Smiley
I say if GGG will play defensive, then we will expect Canelo will win via Unanimous decision since Canelo is the favorited boxer and landed more punches. GGG should learn to fight like Bivol strategy where he always hold his two arms to protect his face, while he let his arms to get punched. The thing is Bivol is more smarter than GGG since he can find the right moment to punch Canelo, I think he's know Canelo's pattern.

But yeah it's a different boxers, maybe GGG is knowing what should he do in the trilogy fight.

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I feel like Golovkin will have to fight defensively in this match against Canelo. Golovkin will know that since he is an experienced veteran in this sport. Apparently, I believe that he will not have much time left in his career for some reason. There are probably very few fights left for him as well. I want him to win solely because of that.

It’s not like I think he is not a capable fighter anymore. There is no doubt that he is a very capable fighter. In addition to that, he is also over 40 years old. With 42 wins, one draw, and only one loss in his career, he has achieved a remarkable record. I wish him the best of luck in making it to 43 Smiley
I say if GGG will play defensive, then we will expect Canelo will win via Unanimous decision since Canelo is the favorited boxer and landed more punches. GGG should learn to fight like Bivol strategy where he always hold his two arms to protect his face, while he let his arms to get punched. The thing is Bivol is more smarter than GGG since he can find the right moment to punch Canelo, I think he's know Canelo's pattern.

But yeah it's a different boxers, maybe GGG is knowing what should he do in the trilogy fight.

GGG needs to enhance his strategy. If he will stay with that same old one, Canelo might abuse him with another unanimous decision bookies. Consider Canelo still the favorite, as they saw this advantage from the two previous fights. Though yeah, it's different fighters inside the ring but if GGG will manage to study and learn how Bivol works with the timing, he might get that lucky combination and create a good opening.

He needs to be more offensive. In my opinion, Canelo will do his best to keep close and continue to monitor his strategy afterwards

Canelo will start attacking him with good solid punches, strategy that this guy is very good when he already analyzes how his opponent
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I feel like Golovkin will have to fight defensively in this match against Canelo. Golovkin will know that since he is an experienced veteran in this sport. Apparently, I believe that he will not have much time left in his career for some reason. There are probably very few fights left for him as well. I want him to win solely because of that.

It’s not like I think he is not a capable fighter anymore. There is no doubt that he is a very capable fighter. In addition to that, he is also over 40 years old. With 42 wins, one draw, and only one loss in his career, he has achieved a remarkable record. I wish him the best of luck in making it to 43 Smiley
I say if GGG will play defensive, then we will expect Canelo will win via Unanimous decision since Canelo is the favorited boxer and landed more punches. GGG should learn to fight like Bivol strategy where he always hold his two arms to protect his face, while he let his arms to get punched. The thing is Bivol is more smarter than GGG since he can find the right moment to punch Canelo, I think he's know Canelo's pattern.

But yeah it's a different boxers, maybe GGG is knowing what should he do in the trilogy fight.

I don't think that he will play defensive in the 3rd fight. He already saw his mistakes specially in the first fight wherein he allow Canelo to control the championship rounds (of course the judges as well have something to do with him losing).

Perhaps GGG will be very aggressive and he should take advantage of Canelo being a slow starter. But he should be cautious as well in the latter rounds as this is where Canelo usually score points. GGG needs to be consistent for full 12 rounds and not allow Canelo to be comfortable.

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Perhaps GGG will be very aggressive and he should take advantage of Canelo being a slow starter. But he should be cautious as well in the latter rounds as this is where Canelo usually score points. GGG needs to be consistent for full 12 rounds and not allow Canelo to be comfortable.

I am not sure whether I could agree with you. Check the scorecard from Bivol vs Canelo. The first few rounds were almost even, with Bivol having an advantage, but as the fight progressed Canelo got smashed to pulp.



And check the scorecard from Canelo vs Golovkin (2017). You can see the same pattern:



Therefore I am expecting Canelo to start well and win the initial 2-3 rounds. And it may take some time for Golovkin to catch up.

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Therefore I am expecting Canelo to start well and win the initial 2-3 rounds. And it may take some time for Golovkin to catch up.
But the judges aren't wrong, Canelo always going aggressive on the early rounds, slowing down after that and comeback at the late rounds. But when he fought against Bivol, his aggressiveness on the late rounds is still not making judges favor to him because Bivol didn't hurt. There's a video where Bivol showing his shoulder after getting power punch from Canelo, there's swollen mark on Bivol's shoulder, but it doesn't enough to make Bivol open his arms.

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August 24, 2022, 10:41:34 AM
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Thanks to Canelo losing to Bivol, because if that didn't happen, we might not see this fight.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believed regardless of the result of the Bivol-Canelo match, the trilogy fight between Canelo and GGG will still materialize. That's already on Canelo's timeline this year. Instead, what I'm thinking is, that if GGG were defeated by Murata, that might ruin the negotiations regarding the trilogy.

Moving forward, we are all fortunate to witness the upcoming trilogy that was being requested for years.

Let's hope for no controversial issues that will happened in this fight.

Yep, you got that right! Canelo's fight with Golovkin for the 3rd time is already arranged and will happen right after Bivol because Canelo can't have Bivol if he won't agree to fight Golovkin for a trilogy. In fact, there are 3 boxers in line for Canelo this year or at least 1st quarter of next year. The trilogy might only cancelled if Golovkin lost that fight against Murata because Golovkin and his camp will surely know that they don't have a choice against Canelo if they can't at least defeat Murata.


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August 24, 2022, 11:13:01 AM
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Thanks to Canelo losing to Bivol, because if that didn't happen, we might not see this fight.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believed regardless of the result of the Bivol-Canelo match, the trilogy fight between Canelo and GGG will still materialize. That's already on Canelo's timeline this year. Instead, what I'm thinking is, that if GGG were defeated by Murata, that might ruin the negotiations regarding the trilogy.
Regardless of the outcome of the Bivol vs Canelo, this fight is going to happen specially when GGG defeated Murata. On the side of Canelo, his 2 fight deal with Matchroom include this trilogy.

Moving forward, we are all fortunate to witness the upcoming trilogy that was being requested for years.

Let's hope for no controversial issues that will happened in this fight.
Or let's hope that we can finally see a clear winner in the third fight. And we will not see the judges involving themselves. But this is unlikely to happen as both fighter have a solid chin a maybe there is no knock down or knock out.

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August 24, 2022, 12:06:18 PM
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In my case, I like GGG to win since he's now in his retirement period. Canelo still has more chance and is considered still in his prime. And I feel GGG was robbed in those 2 fights, especially the 1st match where there is a huge gap in scores given by one of the judges.

If Canelo really dominates GGG at all of their meetups, there should be no trilogy that will be demanded by the majority. Canelo is not even interested in the trilogy at first even though his record against GGG is just 1 Win - 1 Draw.

He thinks that he already owned GGG with a 2-0 standing that's why no need for a trilogy. Arrogant and boastful.

Well.. you can't say that GGG is in "retirement period". He maybe close to retirement (still at least 2 years away IMO), but he hasn't given any hint as of yet. And although I agree with the fact that Golovkin was robbed in the first two matches, that is not the reason why I want him to win. I have been a big fan of Golovkin ever since I started following boxing. Most of my favorite boxers have retired by now (Klitschko brothers, Pacquiao, Mike Tyson.etc). Golovkin is one of those athletes who keep me interested in boxing.

I feel like Golovkin will have to fight defensively in this match against Canelo. Golovkin will know that since he is an experienced veteran in this sport. Apparently, I believe that he will not have much time left in his career for some reason. There are probably very few fights left for him as well. I want him to win solely because of that.

It’s not like I think he is not a capable fighter anymore. There is no doubt that he is a very capable fighter. In addition to that, he is also over 40 years old. With 42 wins, one draw, and only one loss in his career, he has achieved a remarkable record. I wish him the best of luck in making it to 43 Smiley

Same here, I'm also rooting for GGG to win this time around because we may not see him fighting professionally if he got defeated in this trilogy despite of the fact that he said that he won't retire regardless of the result of this trilogy but we can't take out the other factors as his camp or his family will say that it's time to hang his gloves.

But we know that that ain't the way how the fight goes, GGG has to fight and win this fight even if his chances are much smaller compared to Canelo who's still in the height of his prime. Nevertheless, he still got what it takes too.

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August 24, 2022, 12:42:51 PM
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Or let's hope that we can finally see a clear winner in the third fight. And we will not see the judges involving themselves. But this is unlikely to happen as both fighter have a solid chin a maybe there is no knock down or knock out.

Most likely their trilogy will make things clear concerning who's the best among them and I'm pretty sure they will gonna unleash everything here because GGG really needs to close this without any doubt that he is the best and Canelo really need to beat him because he came from an upset loss against Bivol. Nevertheless, it is one of the most exciting trilogies in this era, I hope to see it live at home.

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