Will Russia Emerge As The Next Dominant Superpower

[Ozero]

^^^ LOL.. 120,000 killed and wounded. OK.. even if we take this wild claim, assuming that there is a 1:4 ratio for dead:wounded, we will arrive at around 24,000 deaths per day. Number of Russian deaths reported by BBC News Russian and Mediazona amount to 5,507. DPR/LPR deaths amount to ~4,000. Another 1,000 or so deaths can be attributed to PMC Wagner and other non-formal organizations. After taking in to account all the undercount, the most liberal estimate may be around 15,000 and out of which 1/3rd maybe Ukrainian citizens from DPR/LPR.

Russian official statistics and its propaganda are false through and through, as well as its current domestic and foreign policy. First of all, this concerns the course of the war and losses in manpower and equipment. Even the word "war" is banned there. On February 24, eight Russian armies with all armored vehicles invaded Ukraine from three sides at once and have been conducting a “special operation” for the sixth month already. It turns out that Russia is not at all waging war in Ukraine. Therefore, losses in the "special operation" should be small. What kind of special operation is this if there are tens of thousands of dead and wounded? Therefore, they do not want to take the dead from the battlefield, the corpses are brought to Russia secretly and in small batches, they are also given to relatives in small batches, they are not allowed to bury the military compactly in one place so as not to attract attention. But you can't hide an awl in a bag anyway. The truth in Russia about the losses will be announced later and not by the Putin regime. Internal staff reports of Russian losses are recorded in a timely manner, but they are classified to the public.

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[pooya87]

Russian official statistics and its propaganda are false through and through

Your problem is thinking only things coming out of Russia are propaganda and anything the other side says is god's honest truth. There is a war going on and both sides are filling the media with a lot of propaganda ever second of every day.

[Argoo]

@be.open. Do you think that the key difference between a war and a special operation is that Russia conducts this operation with a peacetime army, without mass mobilization. We open Wikipedia and read: "War is a conflict between political entities (states, tribes, political groups, and so on), occurring on the basis of various claims, in the form of armed confrontation, military (combat) actions between their armed forces."
As you can see, humanity considers any hostilities between the armed forces of different countries to be a war. In Russia, there may be a dissenting opinion about the name of the military seizure of the territory of another state, but this does not change anything for other states.

Are you saying that in Russia they perfectly understand what denazification is?
The Russian anonymous Telegram channel "General SVR" reported that on Monday, August 15, very unpleasant data was put on the table for the dictator of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin. We are talking about the results of a sociological survey of Russians about the situation in the country. Thus, among Russians, only 16% "are sure they understand" ... the goals and objectives of the "special operation" (SVO). 41% support the implementation of SVO, 48% do not support it, the remaining 11% do not have a clear opinion. 37% positively assess the president's actions regarding the "special operation",

[WatChe]

Russian official statistics and its propaganda are false through and through

Your problem is thinking only things coming out of Russia are propaganda and anything the other side says is god's honest truth. There is a war going on and both sides are filling the media with a lot of propaganda ever second of every day.

Media propaganda is important part of Fifth-generation warfare (5GW), in media propaganda you have to portray your mistake as success and enemy success as your victory. Big media House like BBC, cnn, fox news are in hands of usa and west so that broadcast the real news of this conflict rather what suits usa and west.
I still wonder what Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his country get from this conflict? They are the one who provoked Russia for this war.

[Sithara007]

^^^ LOL.. 120,000 killed and wounded. OK.. even if we take this wild claim, assuming that there is a 1:4 ratio for dead:wounded, we will arrive at around 24,000 deaths. Number of Russian deaths reported by BBC News Russian and Mediazona amount to 5,507. DPR/LPR deaths amount to ~4,000. Another 1,000 or so deaths can be attributed to PMC Wagner and other non-formal organizations. After taking in to account all the undercount, the most liberal estimate may be around 15,000 and out of which 1/3rd maybe Ukrainian citizens from DPR/LPR.

Russian official statistics and its propaganda are false through and through, as well as its current domestic and foreign policy. First of all, this concerns the course of the war and losses in manpower and equipment. Even the word "war" is banned there. On February 24, eight Russian armies with all armored vehicles invaded Ukraine from three sides at once and have been conducting a “special operation” for the sixth month already. It turns out that Russia is not at all waging war in Ukraine. Therefore, losses in the "special operation" should be small. What kind of special operation is this if there are tens of thousands of dead and wounded? Therefore, they do not want to take the dead from the battlefield, the corpses are brought to Russia secretly and in small batches, they are also given to relatives in small batches, they are not allowed to bury the military compactly in one place so as not to attract attention. But you can't hide an awl in a bag anyway. The truth in Russia about the losses will be announced later and not by the Putin regime. Internal staff reports of Russian losses are recorded in a timely manner, but they are classified to the public.

I quoted BBC News Russian and Mediazona, two sources with a clear anti-Russian bias. Neither Russia nor Ukraine have released casualty numbers from the war so far. However recently the Ukrainian officials (Oleksiy Arestovich, Mykhailo Podolyak.etc) have claimed that they are suffering around 100-200 deaths per day. The war is in to its 6th month, and therefore we can assume the Ukrainian deaths at a minimum of 20,000 to 40,000 (Russia is claiming much more). Now compared to this, the casualty numbers on the Russian side looks much lower.

[be.open]

@be.open. Do you think that the key difference between a war and a special operation is that Russia conducts this operation with a peacetime army, without mass mobilization. We open Wikipedia and read: "War is a conflict between political entities (states, tribes, political groups, and so on), occurring on the basis of various claims, in the form of armed confrontation, military (combat) actions between their armed forces."
As you can see, humanity considers any hostilities between the armed forces of different countries to be a war. In Russia, there may be a dissenting opinion about the name of the military seizure of the territory of another state, but this does not change anything for other states.

Linking to Wikipedia is a weak argument. Strictly speaking, war is not considered declared until the corresponding note is delivered through the diplomatic line. And the war ends with the signing of a peace treaty. And in this aspect, Russia is not at war with Ukraine, just as Ukraine is not at war with Russia (and Russia is at war with Japan). Naftogaz recently successfully accepted another payment from Gazprom for gas transit - what kind of war is this if the parties to the conflict conduct commercial activities among themselves?

Russia is conducting a special operation in Ukraine. Type of anti-terrorist, only in an expanded composition, with the support of the army and navy. Ukrainian nationalists actively use terrorist methods in their practice, and Nazism is deeply rooted in Ukrainian society. Therefore, a sufficiently large-scale purge was needed to protect ourselves and save Europe from the resurgent neo-Nazi contagion.

Are you saying that in Russia they perfectly understand what denazification is?
The Russian anonymous Telegram channel "General SVR" reported that on Monday, August 15, very unpleasant data was put on the table for the dictator of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin. We are talking about the results of a sociological survey of Russians about the situation in the country. Thus, among Russians, only 16% "are sure they understand" ... the goals and objectives of the "special operation" (SVO). 41% support the implementation of SVO, 48% do not support it, the remaining 11% do not have a clear opinion. 37% positively assess the president's actions regarding the "special operation",

The problem with anonymous telegram channels is that they all lie.

[WatChe]

I was reading on DW News that there is additional burden of Billion of EUROS on people living in Germany due to current conflict of ukarine and Russia.
German govt has announced new rates of energy surcharge due to expected shortage of energy in coming days. 2.5 cents per kilowatt hours will be new energy surcharge.
Its now very clear that EU is heavily dependent on Russian gas and Russia testing EU by threatening them to cut down gas supply.  While EU saying they will impose more sanctions on Russia if gas supply was affected.
Clearly EU is in more trouble then Russia.

News source DW News

[Sithara007]

I just want to post one more statistic, which exposes the double speak from the Western nations:



These are the numbers from 24th Feb to 9th August (i.e after the war started). As you can see, the EU nations have contributed to more than half of Russia's revenues, in terms of oil, gas and coal imports. Even the war mongers and Russophobes such as Poland are there in the list. And at the same time, these shameless people are continuously blaming India for importing a small amount of crude oil from Russia. Can there be any limit to this hypocrisy? And I don't expect much from the Ukrainian users who are active in this thread. They don't have an issue in EU spending $60 billion on Russian fuel. They have issues only with India spending 1/10th of that amount on Russian crude.

[DrBeer]

^^^ LOL.. 120,000 killed and wounded. OK.. even if we take this wild claim, assuming that there is a 1:4 ratio for dead:wounded, we will arrive at around 24,000 deaths. Number of Russian deaths reported by BBC News Russian and Mediazona amount to 5,507. DPR/LPR deaths amount to ~4,000. Another 1,000 or so deaths can be attributed to PMC Wagner and other non-formal organizations. After taking in to account all the undercount, the most liberal estimate may be around 15,000 and out of which 1/3rd maybe Ukrainian citizens from DPR/LPR.

It seems that you fundamentally choose analysts who give the lowest death rates for terrorists who attacked Ukraine, this is bad - you still can’t get away from reality
For example, British intelligence says that now, after the Armed Forces of Ukraine have received a lot of new weapons over the past 2 months, the death rate of rashists is up to 500 carcasses daily ... Plus, you can’t imagine how many corpses of terrorists are lying around the fields and forests where they are "for 2 weeks took all of Ukraine"
Plus, after a successful Jevelin or NLAV in an armored personnel carrier / BRDM / TANK, there is essentially nothing left of the crew. I personally saw an armored personnel carrier and a tank after such a hit - there are fragments of charred flesh and nothing more. Well, the most important thing is propaganda and cowardice of the Russian government! It's cowardly to hide your losses - it's just a national trait of the Russians! And it goes without saying to attribute the fabulous successes of your "second army of the world", the truth of the third world
So - self-deception can give a little positive, but it does not cease to be a deception

[Sithara007]

It seems that you fundamentally choose analysts who give the lowest death rates for terrorists who attacked Ukraine, this is bad - you still can’t get away from reality
For example, British intelligence says that now, after the Armed Forces of Ukraine have received a lot of new weapons over the past 2 months, the death rate of rashists is up to 500 carcasses daily ... Plus, you can’t imagine how many corpses of terrorists are lying around the fields and forests where they are "for 2 weeks took all of Ukraine"
Plus, after a successful Jevelin or NLAV in an armored personnel carrier / BRDM / TANK, there is essentially nothing left of the crew. I personally saw an armored personnel carrier and a tank after such a hit - there are fragments of charred flesh and nothing more. Well, the most important thing is propaganda and cowardice of the Russian government! It's cowardly to hide your losses - it's just a national trait of the Russians! And it goes without saying to attribute the fabulous successes of your "second army of the world", the truth of the third world
So - self-deception can give a little positive, but it does not cease to be a deception

The Ukrainian sources have stated recently that they are outnumbered and outgunned in the Donbass region. A few days back, I was watching an interview with an Ukrainian commander, who was saying that Russians fire 50,000 to 60,000 artillery pieces per day, while the Ukrainians can fire only around 5,000 per day. Given the fact that most of the deaths in this war has resulted from shelling, I don't think that it will be logical to assume that Russians suffered more casualties despite firing 10x shells. Western weapons maybe more accurate, but still that won't cover the 10x numerical advantage.

Also, most of the casualties on the Ukrainian side consists of Ukrainian citizens (up to 5% maybe from foreign volunteers). On the other hand, at least half of the Russian casualties are from non-citizens of Russia (mostly rebels from DPR/LPR).

[Smack That Ace]

Russian official statistics and its propaganda are false through and through

Your problem is thinking only things coming out of Russia are propaganda and anything the other side says is god's honest truth. There is a war going on and both sides are filling the media with a lot of propaganda ever second of every day.

Media propaganda is important part of Fifth-generation warfare (5GW), in media propaganda you have to portray your mistake as success and enemy success as your victory. Big media House like BBC, cnn, fox news are in hands of usa and west so that broadcast the real news of this conflict rather what suits usa and west.
I still wonder what Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his country get from this conflict? They are the one who provoked Russia for this war.

The war is now not only about tanks, bombers or missile systems but also about social media. Who controls the media has a certain dominance because of the misinformation propagated around the world.
That's why I never believed everything from the Western press about the war, there was always a multi-faceted view and overall we were really able to grasp the situation. Don't let the media lead by the nose us with lies.

[DrBeer]

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The problem with anonymous telegram channels is that they all lie.
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I will skip all the propaganda nonsense you love so much, I will only respond to this phrase
What distinguishes Russia from the normal world? In a normal world - anonymous channels, it is possible that they are lying. Not everyone and not the fact that they lie.
But in Russia - everything is much cooler and better! In Russia, totally, 24 * 7, all state, official, channels lie

Well, for example, tell everyone here, the truth - who smokes so much in the temporarily occupied Crimea, and even at almost all air bases and ammunition depots?

[DrBeer]

It seems that you fundamentally choose analysts who give the lowest death rates for terrorists who attacked Ukraine, this is bad - you still can’t get away from reality
For example, British intelligence says that now, after the Armed Forces of Ukraine have received a lot of new weapons over the past 2 months, the death rate of rashists is up to 500 carcasses daily ... Plus, you can’t imagine how many corpses of terrorists are lying around the fields and forests where they are "for 2 weeks took all of Ukraine"
Plus, after a successful Jevelin or NLAV in an armored personnel carrier / BRDM / TANK, there is essentially nothing left of the crew. I personally saw an armored personnel carrier and a tank after such a hit - there are fragments of charred flesh and nothing more. Well, the most important thing is propaganda and cowardice of the Russian government! It's cowardly to hide your losses - it's just a national trait of the Russians! And it goes without saying to attribute the fabulous successes of your "second army of the world", the truth of the third world
So - self-deception can give a little positive, but it does not cease to be a deception

The Ukrainian sources have stated recently that they are outnumbered and outgunned in the Donbass region. A few days back, I was watching an interview with an Ukrainian commander, who was saying that Russians fire 50,000 to 60,000 artillery pieces per day, while the Ukrainians can fire only around 5,000 per day. Given the fact that most of the deaths in this war has resulted from shelling, I don't think that it will be logical to assume that Russians suffered more casualties despite firing 10x shells. Western weapons maybe more accurate, but still that won't cover the 10x numerical advantage.

Also, most of the casualties on the Ukrainian side consists of Ukrainian citizens (up to 5% maybe from foreign volunteers). On the other hand, at least half of the Russian casualties are from non-citizens of Russia (mostly rebels from DPR/LPR).

Kindly - a link to the original of this resource, and we will all figure it out together here what was meant there, how did you understand it, and what really?
You have a comfortable position. If the truth does not fit, it is enough to state that "a certain resource said" and add whatever your heart desires!


I'll tell you - many media in Russia, including some generals of the headquarters of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, officially confirmed that more than 120,000 Russian Nazis were killed, all Russian aviation was destroyed, well, a couple of planes remained, and Putin, out of habit, pissed himself in his bunker, out of fear. This is true ! Or how ? Or is this "not the case"?
Let's do it this way - there is no link to the source - it means it's a lie! In my honest and fair. It’s a pity only supporters of rashist propaganda are guaranteed to refuse ))


So:
1. Link to Ukrainian RESOURCE. Where is the verified information. Otherwise, to your nickname, through a hyphen, add the prefix "unpretentious liar"
2. A link to some "some resource" is considered a deliberate lie in advance?

[TheNineClub]

Not a chance in hell Russia could be the next superpower. For all comparisons the US is still ahead of Russia in that department. Russia has neither the economic, military or cultural power to do so. China would be the likely candidate for the next dominant superpower and the best thing Russia can hope for is to piggyback of Chinas push for supremacy.

[Ozero]

The Ukrainian sources have stated recently that they are outnumbered and outgunned in the Donbass region. A few days back, I was watching an interview with an Ukrainian commander, who was saying that Russians fire 50,000 to 60,000 artillery pieces per day, while the Ukrainians can fire only around 5,000 per day. Given the fact that most of the deaths in this war has resulted from shelling, I don't think that it will be logical to assume that Russians suffered more casualties despite firing 10x shells. Western weapons maybe more accurate, but still that won't cover the 10x numerical advantage.

Also, most of the casualties on the Ukrainian side consists of Ukrainian citizens (up to 5% maybe from foreign volunteers). On the other hand, at least half of the Russian casualties are from non-citizens of Russia (mostly rebels from DPR/LPR).

I have not seen that representatives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have ever stated that in Donbass they have a numerical advantage in manpower. In terms of the number of artillery shots, they really indicated a multiple superiority, ten times or more. However, this is not along the entire eastern front, but on the main sectors of the Russian offensive. As is known, the losses of the advancing troops in relation to the defenders average three to one. And in the Donbass, the invaders are advancing on well-equipped positions over the past eight years. Therefore, it is likely that in this scenario, the losses of the Russians will still be higher.
In addition, the actual length of the front in Ukraine is about two and a half thousand kilometers. In other directions, the Russians do not have such a multiple advantage everywhere. In addition, the Ukrainians are fighting the invaders not with numbers, but with skill. Therefore, in general, the losses of Russians are several times higher than those of Ukrainians. We will be able to find out the final figures after the war.

[poldanmig]

Not a chance in hell Russia could be the next superpower. For all comparisons the US is still ahead of Russia in that department. Russia has neither the economic, military or cultural power to do so. China would be the likely candidate for the next dominant superpower and the best thing Russia can hope for is to piggyback of Chinas push for supremacy.

We can't doubt if America is the most powerful country right now in the world, the power and influence they have can make other countries afraid if they disturb America at this time, I personally totally agree, if China looks like it deserves to be the next superpower compared to Russia, in addition to their country starting to strengthen economically, the number of troops and also the complete weaponry they have has begun to threaten American power today.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

The Ukrainian sources have stated recently that they are outnumbered and outgunned in the Donbass region. A few days back, I was watching an interview with an Ukrainian commander, who was saying that Russians fire 50,000 to 60,000 artillery pieces per day, while the Ukrainians can fire only around 5,000 per day. Given the fact that most of the deaths in this war has resulted from shelling, I don't think that it will be logical to assume that Russians suffered more casualties despite firing 10x shells. Western weapons maybe more accurate, but still that won't cover the 10x numerical advantage.

Also, most of the casualties on the Ukrainian side consists of Ukrainian citizens (up to 5% maybe from foreign volunteers). On the other hand, at least half of the Russian casualties are from non-citizens of Russia (mostly rebels from DPR/LPR).

Just a stupid move by Ukraine to fight with such a mighty power i.e. Russia. There is rear chance that ukarine win this war, they are just playing on behalf of USA and EU who just wanna down Russia without getting involved in the conflict directly. Its better in interest of Ukraine to negotiate with Russia and end this conflict. 

[coupable]

The centers of power in the world have changed in nature, and international alliances (as opposed to regional alliances) have become the dominant force. In other words, it is no longer correct to say that a particular country is the most powerful and dominant. The countries of the world need each other to meet the growing needs of each of them, and the successful force today is an economic alliance between powerful economies.
Russia cannot be an important part of the world scene without its allies China, India and even Iran.
America can only be strong under the cover of NATO, but unfortunately it is a military front rather than an economic one, so it is not able to face many challenges.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

The centers of power in the world have changed in nature, and international alliances (as opposed to regional alliances) have become the dominant force. In other words, it is no longer correct to say that a particular country is the most powerful and dominant. The countries of the world need each other to meet the growing needs of each of them, and the successful force today is an economic alliance between powerful economies.
Russia cannot be an important part of the world scene without its allies China, India and even Iran.
America can only be strong under the cover of NATO, but unfortunately it is a military front rather than an economic one, so it is not able to face many challenges.

yes thats very much true. Role of USA and EU in ongoing conflict between Ukarine and Russia is very disappointing. Even NATO the military alliance is not able to help Ukarine to get rid of Russian invasion. Just supplying arms and placing ban on Russia (while EU begging for GAS to meet energy crisis) wont be able to defeat Russia.

[Haunebu]

I disagree. I have no idea why anyone in their right mind would underestimate USA even after they have proved again and again why they are the most dominant superpower in the world in the long-term.

Russia and pathetic Putin are being criticised for the Ukraine war and their economy is suffering because of all the sanctions, COVID etc. This doesn't imply dominance in any manner whatsoever. Think!