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May 28, 2022, 01:17:09 PM
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Keep hearing those questions...and this it means that many were still new and no how about the market volatility.

But I think it is a need for them to understand and let them experience how the market works in order for them to understand clearly.
Those who come and join during the bullish season will certainly get surprised and then wonder why their portfolio losing its value.

And we can hide the fact that some are able to adapt to the situation and stop complaining but some couldn't accept it. Snd to see the reason why we can never stop hearing words like these..."what if?", "when bullish?"
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May 28, 2022, 04:18:53 PM
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You missed another popular statement coming up from some people who don't like the bitcoin which is Bitcoin is going to zero so sell as soon as possible. But how many times they will take to prove their views about cryptocurrencies was wrong all these years and they still stubborn to change it. Bear and Bull this has been the cycle of cryptocurrencies as well until now so take your chances and make most out of it.

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May 28, 2022, 06:57:07 PM
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It’s been so many years we have seen bitcoin and altcoins melody of bear and bull trends. Every time I see bull run, peeps will be asking two questions:

1) What is the highest bitcoin price in this bull run?
2) Is current price is perfect to sell my assets?
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1) Why bitcoin is falling so harshly?
2) Why altcoins fall when bitcoin is falling?
3) I sold my bitcoins in loss, what should I do?
4) When will bitcoin go bull again and when is the resistance for current market?


1. No one really knows in speaking with ATH
2. It does really depends on your own choice and preference when it comes to selling decisions

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1. Sell-off, Fud, Manipulation
2. It do always correlate with bitcoin trend most of the time but there are eventually who do goes opposite
3. Buyback if you could still take risk
4. This is where technical analysis do plays out or relevant thats why its important to know which you do at least know on whats happening.

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May 28, 2022, 07:44:24 PM
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~snip~

The funny part comes later when bitcoin starts falling down and goes all bearish. This is current live situation. In this trend there will be another set of questions like:

1) Why bitcoin is falling so harshly?
2) Why altcoins fall when bitcoin is falling?
3) I sold my bitcoins in loss, what should I do?
4) When will bitcoin go bull again and when is the resistance for current market?
^ Lol, this definitely right.
A lot of people ask why BTC drop the price and it begins to spread the FUD which is other newbies holder will do the same, panicking.
We should realize this attitude and don't tolerate this, we should be happy when there is a bear market so that we can fulfill your bag again for another investment. The fact is when people ask to invest in BTC when they saw there is a bull run in the market or they will say, it is too late to invest?
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May 29, 2022, 03:26:03 AM
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However, in crypto space you should remember; you are not at all in loss if you have not sold any of your portfolio. This is common logic everyone must apply to their trading methods. 
This is true however this is really hard and painful in real life especially when you can see its actual value and you down by a lot. Of course not all can endure such situation and eventually will cut their losses or panic selling to avoid overall loss. But thats impossible actually if you are in a good project that is considered blue chips.  Emotion is your enemy here and conquering that is a brave response. Lets admit that not all can do this but thats the reality of trading and losses. If you succumb to that and it will eat you alive.

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May 29, 2022, 05:19:59 AM
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It is tough to get a new investor in the market accustomed with the bear-bull cycle because most of them expect instant returns and having to hold through a bear market makes it all seem like a lie added to the fact that most no-coiners coming into bitcoin have a lot of fear and uncertainty about the physical existence of bitcoin and its legal condition.

This can be handled by not investing for those who have this fear or have prior observation sessions on bitcoin price cycles which can give them an idea about they are going to experience. This can reduce the future losses from panic selling and going FOMO.

However, the best trader is always the who has better experience at handling situations, knows how to manage a portfolio and knows when to take a break. Clearly, the market is not for everyone.

 
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May 29, 2022, 08:27:39 AM
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You missed another popular statement coming up from some people who don't like the bitcoin which is Bitcoin is going to zero so sell as soon as possible. But how many times they will take to prove their views about cryptocurrencies was wrong all these years and they still stubborn to change it. Bear and Bull this has been the cycle of cryptocurrencies as well until now so take your chances and make most out of it.

Bitcoin going to zero means everyone selling it off their wallets. But to sell everything means somebody will need to buy it. There won’t be anyone left to buy if everyone started to sell, then how do you believe that it could go down to zero man? There will always be somebody whose buying because there are miners, investors who has deep rooted investments they will never ever leave bitcoin like this. There are pretty less chances of this happening.
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May 29, 2022, 09:14:47 AM
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It’s been so many years we have seen bitcoin and altcoins melody of bear and bull trends. Every time I see bull run, peeps will be asking two questions:
(....)
That's why if you will also notice, the more person stayed during those years of bull run or bear run, the more they know what will happen because they already experienced it from the time they stayed even how the market behaves, even me, especially on 2017-2018 bear market, it was my first time to experience a bear market and really worst!

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May 29, 2022, 09:28:19 AM
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Keep hearing those questions...and this it means that many were still new and no how about the market volatility.
It also shows how easy it is to manipulate the market and play with our minds because we are being controlled and do as the whales want us to do.

I personally never get intimated by the market movement whether it's green or red unless there is some kind of news backing it up. For example, when BTC was accepted as a payment method by Tesla, there was a good reason for me to get hyped and I bought some more without looking at where and how the market is moving. Similarly, when they later announced that Tesla won't accept BTC anymore, I had a good reason to sell some of my reserves because the price will naturally dump slowly.

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May 29, 2022, 11:43:49 AM
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Keep hearing those questions...and this it means that many were still new and no how about the market volatility.
It also shows how easy it is to manipulate the market and play with our minds because we are being controlled and do as the whales want us to do.

I personally never get intimated by the market movement whether it's green or red unless there is some kind of news backing it up. For example, when BTC was accepted as a payment method by Tesla, there was a good reason for me to get hyped and I bought some more without looking at where and how the market is moving. Similarly, when they later announced that Tesla won't accept BTC anymore, I had a good reason to sell some of my reserves because the price will naturally dump slowly.

Still learning every day and trying to be mentally impeccable!

With years of witnessing the market, you already know how this market moves. I'm not even panicked about the current situation, nor surprised as I have seen situations like this in the past, and I always love the action after a long bear market because when the bull market comes, it's always worth the wait and patience.
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May 29, 2022, 12:50:15 PM
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If you see market dipping, then it’s not loss but it’s market whose giving you opportunity. Just take it Smiley

That's what I thought ever since.

After all, if this market is still manipulated (which is very obvious) then this huge dump is not going to be the end of crypto.
How many times did people panic?

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May 29, 2022, 05:22:15 PM
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Yes the forum is flooded with those question at this moment also. I’m surprised why they do it even they know forum told us many times bitcoin will stabilise and bitcoin will make a come back in the future for sure. I have been keeping calm, literally moved my coins to cold storage so that I won’t sell them out of FOMO. The miscalculation will always follow us back of the mind so yes these stringent steps must be followed to avoid unwanted selling of coins. It’s good I’m on that page and not on the side where I’m asking those questions in the OP.  Wink
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May 29, 2022, 07:28:25 PM
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Emotion is your enemy here and conquering that is a brave response. Lets admit that not all can do this but thats the reality of trading and losses. If you succumb to that and it will eat you alive.

I do also understand that emotion can lead us into losses when we jump into it with out getting the proper timing but on some times it pays through too when the emotion helps a trader to exit a pending losing market. As a trader we can't avoid the uncertainty being created by our emotions but greatly we need to have better use of our  knowledge in the market if we have such understanding, the emotion influence will be reduced.
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May 29, 2022, 07:44:28 PM
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All of this is merely a strategy of the strong hands and institutional investors to get money from weak hands into big players. They will buy every news channel every Twitter page to spread havoc and FUD in bearish times as if market is going to end tomorrow but then magically you will see market retracing back and touching all time highs when the strong hands have accumulated enough of bitcoins. The exactly inverse happens at the top so the best strategy obviously is to buy and keep on doing DCA in bearish times.
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May 29, 2022, 09:48:38 PM
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On this issue of buying low, I don't advise people to just look at the price and say: "yes I will buy because the price is low" what is sad is that even on bitcoin related news channels they say: " today the price of bitcoin has dropped a lot, so people have a big chance to buy low." just because the price is at $29,000 and before it reached $60,000 doesn't mean that the price is low so it's time to buy because it's cheap and hodl for years and you'll get 2X profit. I think that this way of thinking is dangerous, I say that because the price can also drop to $3000, so what happens to the person who buys at $29000 and the price drops to $3000? In my opinion people need to use technical analysis to determine if it's really time to buy even if it's for long term hodl

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May 29, 2022, 10:38:11 PM
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On this issue of buying low, I don't advise people to just look at the price and say: "yes I will buy because the price is low" what is sad is that even on bitcoin related news channels they say: " today the price of bitcoin has dropped a lot, so people have a big chance to buy low." just because the price is at $29,000 and before it reached $60,000 doesn't mean that the price is low so it's time to buy because it's cheap and hodl for years and you'll get 2X profit. I think that this way of thinking is dangerous, I say that because the price can also drop to $3000, so what happens to the person who buys at $29000 and the price drops to $3000? In my opinion people need to use technical analysis to determine if it's really time to buy even if it's for long term hodl

Yes because many people use this opportunity to buy more bitcoin, I admit that even myself I am only looking for the price rather than making an analysis which I regret later on, everyone else needed to learn the fundamentals of not only buying when it is low, we need to learn to understand the chart, not because it is now dipped we will buy it urgently we need to if it is the right time to buy or not yet because it can go lower than expected based on our analysis of the chart.
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May 30, 2022, 04:59:25 AM
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I do also understand that emotion can lead us into losses when we jump into it with out getting the proper timing but on some times it pays through too when the emotion helps a trader to exit a pending losing market.
Yes cutting lose to a more bigger losses is smart too. A trader is based his movement through the patterns and chart, but we cant conclude that all are just relying on that especially when they saw the opposite direction of their strategy and ended up losing. There should always be a back up or should I say stop loss and not easily trust the analysis he just made hence it only served as a guide and not a total 100% result and emotions are the middle ground there.

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May 30, 2022, 10:55:53 AM
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Peeps, seriously everyone needs to pull their thoughts together when it comes to situation like this in the market. After all either market crashes or it goes up and all of us has to do is one god dam thing, you just hodl your crypto tight, either move them to stable coin economy to stop the losses.

You have to take into account that we constantly have an influx of brand new investors who know very little about what is actually going on, and instead of first researching what exactly it is, they invest first hoping for overnight profits. Some will succeed, but most will pay the price for their negligence and haste, although they could have protected their investment by devoting only a little more time to it.

In light of recent events, I would not call stablecoins a safe way to store value, as these are (mostly) fully centralized coins that can be frozen no matter where they are located. Technically, $1000 in your bank account or home safe is safer than $1000 in a stablecoin that can become unstable or frozen overnight.
 
However, in crypto space you should remember; you are not at all in loss if you have not sold any of your portfolio. This is common logic everyone must apply to their trading methods.  

Logic makes very little sense to most who can't stand their investment melting away, so they often try to save what can be saved in fear of losing even more. Part of that thinking stems from the fact that people don’t understand what they’ve invested in, but the biggest reason is that most gamble with the money they need, and can’t afford a long-term investment.



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May 30, 2022, 03:55:26 PM
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Agree.
A big opportunity actually. Adding more to the assets by means of buying the same coins means helping to get higher demands and some investors just won't understand that. They are inclined to what is happening in front of them and start to panic instead of preparing for the future of it.
First, if you bought one coin that means you did your research and have faith it will increase its value again. So why would you panic sell instead of buying more?
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May 30, 2022, 05:27:45 PM
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Certainly there is no permanent loss or permanent profit, the market is in a state of constant fluctuation between ups and downs, if you see the market bearish, you have to do two things: If you have strong coins and you think they will rise in the future, the best solution is to hold in the bearish time until the Bullish market comes , but if you have shitCoins, the best solution is to get rid of it at the best price with the least loss.
Another thing that you should do in a bear market time is if you have some savings that you do not need at the moment you should buy strong coins such as bitcoin and ethereum because this is the best time to buy more of these strong coins and wait for the bull market.


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