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September 04, 2022, 04:27:57 AM
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^ It should be on your country's jurisdiction towards gambling casinos, those internet providers also follows government jurisdiction so if gambling is prohibited in your place, there is no way to access gambling casino, not unless you will use a VPN which is not a good decision to me.  
The site that you talking about is working fine with me, I can able to access it and I think, your country did it that is why you can't access that site.
VPN? No, this is very risky and it could be your fund trap on the site when your account will freeze due to the VPN you have used or read the ToS carefully.
If I were you, find a gambling casino that did not restrict in your place.
True, if the gambling site doesn't allow gambling then accessing it without VPN would be impossible and VPN is really needed before you can access it but as you have said that using VPN to access a gambling site that your country is one of the countries that are prohibited to access it is very risky. Why?, Because once you won huge or small amount and decided to withdraw and the gambling site finds it suspicious then the chance of not being able to withdraw is high.
VPN is the only key but once you've been caught out by the casino then prepare yourself on making out those identification verification which we know that its impossible to be done on a dynamic address.
So consider those funds to be in total lost or cant be recovered up and since you had violated sites rules on the first place.Dealing up with ISP block wont really be that much a problem
if you do just simply make yourself do find another place to play and wont be forcing yourself to play on site which prohibits you to play.

indeed it is better to avoid sites that prohibit the use of VPNs than to lose money for violating the rules. there are many more flexible sites that don't prohibit the use of vpn or sites that are unblocked. Usually new sites still pass. but for many old sites that are not allowed by the ISP. This also depends on the number of ISPs in each country.

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September 04, 2022, 08:20:57 AM
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Hello there,
I tried accessing TrustDice today, which is one of the first cryptocurrency casino's I've been introduced into, but it wouldn't load, claiming that "Connection is not private". I thought something was fishy at the moment, but quickly realized that it was actually blocked by my ISP.

How should I deal with such an issue? I certainly thought of using a VPN, but I only have a free one, meaning that it could easily be used by another person on the website simultaneously, which could potentially lead to a ban. Stake and Fortunejack are also banned, after making a few guesses, Roobet still works fine.

There isn't always a good way around this and it kinda depends on the laws of the country you are in. If it's legal in your country, then you should either contact the ISP to ask them to remove this unnecessary block or switch ISP if they aren't willing to open up a service you are paying to use. If it is illegal to gamble in your country then you face multiple risks which means you probably need to stop playing at online casinos, there is the risk of prosecution which could lead to many bad consequences and then there is the threat that the online casino could seize all your funds leaving you with little recourse depending on how their terms of service agreement is structured.

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September 04, 2022, 12:04:26 PM
 #103

Hello there,
I tried accessing TrustDice today, which is one of the first cryptocurrency casino's I've been introduced into, but it wouldn't load, claiming that "Connection is not private". I thought something was fishy at the moment, but quickly realized that it was actually blocked by my ISP.



How should I deal with such an issue? I certainly thought of using a VPN, but I only have a free one, meaning that it could easily be used by another person on the website simultaneously, which could potentially lead to a ban. Stake and Fortunejack are also banned, after making a few guesses, Roobet still works fine.

You can create your own free VPN using free tiers on cloud platforms like Google cloud platform and Amazon AWS.
There are tutorials on Youtube which you can refer to create your own free VPN.
This VPN will have only one country by default where the cloud server would be located.
Since this is solely your account so nobody else would be using that IP address other than you.
So your problem will be solved.

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September 04, 2022, 12:37:42 PM
 #104

You can create your own free VPN using free tiers on cloud platforms like Google cloud platform and Amazon AWS.
There are tutorials on Youtube which you can refer to create your own free VPN.
This VPN will have only one country by default where the cloud server would be located.
Since this is solely your account so nobody else would be using that IP address other than you.
So your problem will be solved.

I have also read about these options as I will most likely have to use them in the future (I am from Russia where the internet is more and more censored). This begs the question - which country is best suited to make a VPN in its range of IP addresses? After all, if I want to use more than one gambling site, but several (potentially all possible), then I must take into account that different countries have different restrictions. Which country is the most free in this sense?
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September 04, 2022, 02:19:03 PM
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You can create your own free VPN using free tiers on cloud platforms like Google cloud platform and Amazon AWS.
There are tutorials on Youtube which you can refer to create your own free VPN.
This VPN will have only one country by default where the cloud server would be located.
Since this is solely your account so nobody else would be using that IP address other than you.
So your problem will be solved.

I have also read about these options as I will most likely have to use them in the future (I am from Russia where the internet is more and more censored). This begs the question - which country is best suited to make a VPN in its range of IP addresses? After all, if I want to use more than one gambling site, but several (potentially all possible), then I must take into account that different countries have different restrictions. Which country is the most free in this sense?

Maybe if you want to gamble in a casino the is already have a thread in this forum you may see some replies maybe you could see the list of the countries that are free to use the website? I am using Netherlands before and SG, I don't know if it is applicable in gambling site, because I only use this country for me to be routed to a country that has the item of the game that I want to buy and also to have a new IP if I am accessing some free books website. But the thing is every website there is a a docs that blacklisted areas are written.
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September 04, 2022, 03:53:01 PM
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Hello there,
I tried accessing TrustDice today, which is one of the first cryptocurrency casino's I've been introduced into, but it wouldn't load, claiming that "Connection is not private". I thought something was fishy at the moment, but quickly realized that it was actually blocked by my ISP.



How should I deal with such an issue? I certainly thought of using a VPN, but I only have a free one, meaning that it could easily be used by another person on the website simultaneously, which could potentially lead to a ban. Stake and Fortunejack are also banned, after making a few guesses, Roobet still works fine.

Oh, if you use a VPN, it's a bit too risky when you do that and I'm sure you know the result is not good because your account will be at risk, and you're right, your account can be banned.

And in agreement with your statement, the country you are in seems to be restricted on the gambling site platform you are referring to. because if you insist on using a VPN, just prepare yourself for its bad consequences.


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September 04, 2022, 04:38:28 PM
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Hello there,
I tried accessing TrustDice today, which is one of the first cryptocurrency casino's I've been introduced into, but it wouldn't load, claiming that "Connection is not private". I thought something was fishy at the moment, but quickly realized that it was actually blocked by my ISP.



How should I deal with such an issue? I certainly thought of using a VPN, but I only have a free one, meaning that it could easily be used by another person on the website simultaneously, which could potentially lead to a ban. Stake and Fortunejack are also banned, after making a few guesses, Roobet still works fine.

Oh, if you use a VPN, it's a bit too risky when you do that and I'm sure you know the result is not good because your account will be at risk, and you're right, your account can be banned.

And in agreement with your statement, the country you are in seems to be restricted on the gambling site platform you are referring to. because if you insist on using a VPN, just prepare yourself for its bad consequences.

Using VPN is fine as long as it does not against the terms of the casino especially related to the prohibited jurisdictions.
If the block comes from the ISP means that the ISP does not support gambling activity like what is happening in my country.
But since my country is not getting listed as the restricted countries by the casino, so I can find some alternative ways to visit and play in the casino.
It can be by using VPN if it is allowed by the casino or by using mirror links if it is provided by the casino.

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September 04, 2022, 06:11:09 PM
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Maybe if you want to gamble in a casino the is already have a thread in this forum you may see some replies maybe you could see the list of the countries that are free to use the website? I am using Netherlands before and SG, I don't know if it is applicable in gambling site, because I only use this country for me to be routed to a country that has the item of the game that I want to buy and also to have a new IP if I am accessing some free books website. But the thing is every website there is a a docs that blacklisted areas are written.
I prefer sites which has an ann thread on this forum so that I can look for genuine reviews compared to some random review sites. They will also post their main advantage and disadvantage or if what countries they restrict but this can also be found directly on their website located at the terms and conditions page. When it comes to configuring my own vpn I always choose Singapore and Japan as their speed are very fast.

I only don't know though if users from another country experience the same thing. Can't say as well if Singapore and Japan can bypass a lot of gambling sites because I didn't tried them there yet but I only use a vpn for watching videos and downloading contents.
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September 04, 2022, 06:27:15 PM
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There's no other option than using the VPN with this but of course, make sure to check if the gambling website is supported the use of the VPN because your account might risky due to having different addresses and preventing a flag like suspicious activity with your account. Also, another thing you can do is to change the ISP you have if there are a lot of providers in your country and you are willing to change just to play with your hobby.


With multiple scam accusations filed, KYC rejections, and accounts frozen in this forum, I would not advise the OP to use a VPN, not because the IP address may change if he forgets to use a consistent one, but because most of these casinos now require KYC and if you provide incorrect documents, it will be rejected, and you risk losing your money because you will be logged out the moment they discover you are attempting to do something illegal. It is illegal to attempt to gamble online when your government has instructed your ISP not to play. If you continue to try, the casinos have every right to confiscate your account and balance.

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September 04, 2022, 06:47:26 PM
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There's no other option than using the VPN with this but of course, make sure to check if the gambling website is supported the use of the VPN because your account might risky due to having different addresses and preventing a flag like suspicious activity with your account. Also, another thing you can do is to change the ISP you have if there are a lot of providers in your country and you are willing to change just to play with your hobby.


With multiple scam accusations filed, KYC rejections, and accounts frozen in this forum, I would not advise the OP to use a VPN, not because the IP address may change if he forgets to use a consistent one, but because most of these casinos now require KYC and if you provide incorrect documents, it will be rejected, and you risk losing your money because you will be logged out the moment they discover you are attempting to do something illegal. It is illegal to attempt to gamble online when your government has instructed your ISP not to play. If you continue to try, the casinos have every right to confiscate your account and balance.

True. If you want to see a real world example of the consequences of trying to cheat restrictions imposed by countries on gambling platforms, you don't need to look further, you just have to check this very forum for examples. Those cases alone should be enough to deter you from trying to use VPN to circumvent restrictions. Most gambling platforms explicitly state that the us of VPNs are discouraged but never prohibited, and you will have problems if you try to game the system to cheat the restriction. Better safe than sorry.

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September 04, 2022, 07:58:05 PM
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Using a VPN to access a casino is not a problem in itself and no casino will ban your account just for that unless it's clearly stated in their ToS that using VPNs is prohibited. The real problem is actually why they are being used. Unfortunately, the majority do not use VPNs for privacy reasons but to circumvent geo restrictions which is a kind of cheating.
Another thing gamblers aren't aware of is that even if your country isn't listed in the list of restricted countries, you're still not allowed to use the casino's services if gambling is prohibited in your country (and the consequences if you get caught are worse).

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September 04, 2022, 08:19:48 PM
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Hello there,
I tried accessing TrustDice today, which is one of the first cryptocurrency casino's I've been introduced into, but it wouldn't load, claiming that "Connection is not private". I thought something was fishy at the moment, but quickly realized that it was actually blocked by my ISP.



How should I deal with such an issue? I certainly thought of using a VPN, but I only have a free one, meaning that it could easily be used by another person on the website simultaneously, which could potentially lead to a ban. Stake and Fortunejack are also banned, after making a few guesses, Roobet still works fine.

You can create your own free VPN using free tiers on cloud platforms like Google cloud platform and Amazon AWS.
There are tutorials on Youtube which you can refer to create your own free VPN.
This VPN will have only one country by default where the cloud server would be located.
Since this is solely your account so nobody else would be using that IP address other than you.
So your problem will be solved.

This is the way to go if OP wanted to have an exclusive IP while using VPN, but I think OP have to buy the service that will host the VPN right?  Anyway, I also have problem accessing slots game due to IP restriction from the slot game provider, and I also have the same concern with regards to using VPN even though I am using the premium one.  I might try this one and see if am knowledgeable enough to setup a personal VPN server.

@OP I would suggest you to spend some money for either premium VPN or this VPN stated by pawanjain.  I believe your country isn't on the list of the restricted region so I don't think you will be banned by using VPN as long as you correctly stated your country on your casino profile.
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September 04, 2022, 08:33:47 PM
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^ It should be on your country's jurisdiction towards gambling casinos, those internet providers also follows government jurisdiction so if gambling is prohibited in your place, there is no way to access gambling casino, not unless you will use a VPN which is not a good decision to me.  
The site that you talking about is working fine with me, I can able to access it and I think, your country did it that is why you can't access that site.
VPN? No, this is very risky and it could be your fund trap on the site when your account will freeze due to the VPN you have used or read the ToS carefully.
If I were you, find a gambling casino that did not restrict in your place.
True, if the gambling site doesn't allow gambling then accessing it without VPN would be impossible and VPN is really needed before you can access it but as you have said that using VPN to access a gambling site that your country is one of the countries that are prohibited to access it is very risky. Why?, Because once you won huge or small amount and decided to withdraw and the gambling site finds it suspicious then the chance of not being able to withdraw is high.
VPN is the only key but once you've been caught out by the casino then prepare yourself on making out those identification verification which we know that its impossible to be done on a dynamic address.
So consider those funds to be in total lost or cant be recovered up and since you had violated sites rules on the first place.Dealing up with ISP block wont really be that much a problem
if you do just simply make yourself do find another place to play and wont be forcing yourself to play on site which prohibits you to play.

indeed it is better to avoid sites that prohibit the use of VPNs than to lose money for violating the rules. there are many more flexible sites that don't prohibit the use of vpn or sites that are unblocked. Usually new sites still pass. but for many old sites that are not allowed by the ISP. This also depends on the number of ISPs in each country.
All depends on the regulation on where a certain gambling site/casino is operating which it would be understandable that they would really be complying on whats been needed and prohibited
because if they dont then for sure it would really be affecting their business.Majority of gambling site nowadays does allow VPN thats why i dont really see this thing to be a major concern
for most people since accessibility isnt really that much a problem since most major or known platforms on gambling field does allow players all around the globe
therefore it wont cause any problems or hesitation that much.

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Majority of gambling site nowadays does allow VPN thats why i dont really see this thing to be a major concern
for most people since accessibility isnt really that much a problem since most major or known platforms on gambling field does allow players all around the globe
therefore it wont cause any problems or hesitation that much.
The majority for each gambling site TOS have limited or banned the use of VPNs but in fact it is not really prohibited because many gamblers access it from blacklisted countries, although not prosecuted but it will be detrimental to gamblers if they can win the jackpot in certain events and the team will impose sanctions for being detected access suspicious accounts using VPN or you will have to complete KYC procedures to be able to withdraw funds to your account.

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September 04, 2022, 10:34:41 PM
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Using a VPN to access a casino is not a problem in itself and no casino will ban your account just for that unless it's clearly stated in their ToS that using VPNs is prohibited. The real problem is actually why they are being used. Unfortunately, the majority do not use VPNs for privacy reasons but to circumvent geo restrictions which is a kind of cheating.
Another thing gamblers aren't aware of is that even if your country isn't listed in the list of restricted countries, you're still not allowed to use the casino's services if gambling is prohibited in your country (and the consequences if you get caught are worse).

Using a known VPN is a good way to get yourself banned any your funds frozen. I would not risk it at all. Perhaps there is a way with a dedicated VPN IP but I am not really sure how expensive or how difficult going that route would be. Or if it even would work in the long term.

I saw someone advising OP to actually contact the casino to explain the situation. However even in this situation I would be paranoid, if I were OP.

It seems, perhaps only to me, that many if not most online gambling casinos are happy to find any reason to not give you your funds back. And any "suspicious" activity like a VPN or accessing through a country which is banned might lead to something like that.

But then again I cannot really say I have experience like that. Reaching out might be less risky than using a VPN.

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September 04, 2022, 10:41:26 PM
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Using VPN and changing IP addresses can be beneficial for users short term but gambling platforms may require KYC for letting you withdraw winnings.

I don't know if something like that happened already in the crypto-gambling world but can you name a crypto-gambling platform or crypto-bookies that requires KYC before allowing the withdrawal as that user is using a VPN? If there's none yet, what crypto-gambling sites do have this on their terms?

I think most gambling sites are VPN friendly but obviously, accessing that said gambling site thru a VPN from restricted countries, regions or locations is an obvious red-flagged if got caught. That's a clear violation of the site's Terms and Conditions.

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September 05, 2022, 05:01:33 AM
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Nailed it, internet service providers don't usually block websites they use specific DNS thar prevents customers entering government blacklisted websites. Using VPN and changing IP addresses can be beneficial for users short term but gambling platforms may require KYC for letting you withdraw winnings. If the user has been accused breaching ToS, platforms have right to block access on website and send original deposit amount to address uses has used first.
When a casino site requires KYC, the customer can't withdraw their winnings because it can block their account from using a VPN, although some casinos allow their users to use a VPN. And when a user is accused of violating the TOS, it will result in the user's account being inaccessible due to suspicion from the casino. So be careful using a VPN and make sure the IP doesn't change if you want to use a VPN for gambling.
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Nailed it, internet service providers don't usually block websites they use specific DNS thar prevents customers entering government blacklisted websites. Using VPN and changing IP addresses can be beneficial for users short term but gambling platforms may require KYC for letting you withdraw winnings. If the user has been accused breaching ToS, platforms have right to block access on website and send original deposit amount to address uses has used first.
When a casino site requires KYC, the customer can't withdraw their winnings because it can block their account from using a VPN, although some casinos allow their users to use a VPN. And when a user is accused of violating the TOS, it will result in the user's account being inaccessible due to suspicion from the casino. So be careful using a VPN and make sure the IP doesn't change if you want to use a VPN for gambling.

It is important to read the terms and conditions of a gambling website first before actually making a move that could get you into a difficult situation. Reading their TOS to check whether they allow the usage of VPN will save you from future trouble because as we all know, not every casino or gambling website are very much lenient when it comes to the said topic. Some outright prohibits its usage, hence, if caught using one, a severe and irrevocable punishment is given such as permanent banning of your account.

If ever you want to really use a VPN because the gambling site that you want to play on isn't available on your country, then check their policies first to know if it's illegal to them or you can use it, but with reservations. Because if you won't do so and just play impulsively without knowing their rules, you are letting your money be easily snatched away from you.
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indeed it is better to avoid sites that prohibit the use of VPNs than to lose money for violating the rules. there are many more flexible sites that don't prohibit the use of vpn or sites that are unblocked. Usually new sites still pass. but for many old sites that are not allowed by the ISP. This also depends on the number of ISPs in each country.
You mean avoid using a VPN if they didn't allow it and your country is on the restricted list. There are still lots of casinos out there and I am sure that there will always be a casino that will allow our country. If the restriction is caused by an isp then we can try switching on the other isp. Let see if they allow the site or not.

I am sure that each country has more than one isp, that is due to the competition and also to avoid congestion. So far I haven't seen my isp restrict any gambling sites but only some of the porn sites but I don't really care about it since I can still use other xxx sites or can use a VPN and access the blocked sites.
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Using VPN and changing IP addresses can be beneficial for users short term but gambling platforms may require KYC for letting you withdraw winnings.

I don't know if something like that happened already in the crypto-gambling world but can you name a crypto-gambling platform or crypto-bookies that requires KYC before allowing the withdrawal as that user is using a VPN? If there's none yet, what crypto-gambling sites do have this on their terms?

I think most gambling sites are VPN friendly but obviously, accessing that said gambling site thru a VPN from restricted countries, regions or locations is an obvious red-flagged if got caught. That's a clear violation of the site's Terms and Conditions.
I have seen many cases about blocked withdrawal due to violation of the Terms&Conditions and using VPN raises red flag for team to check your account. Stake casino has blocked few users due to the time difference on browser and the geographic location based on IP address. Ofc, they let you withdraw original deposit amount but you have to prove identity for withdrawing winnings, IMO.

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