Minor Protection From Gambling

[lionheart78]

This had been the main issue in online gambling.  Minors had been flocking to the online Casino site without any restrictions.  They can blatantly access gambling sites with their parents' cards, fake their identities and so on.  Germany does tackle this issue seriously and recently German Commission for the Protection of Minor in the Media (KJM). had a deal with Incode Technologies, a US-based specialist in biometric identity for the age verification solution.[1]  

The German government is very inclined that it will help greatly in protecting minors because of its advanced technology.

Incode Technologies, a US-based specialist in biometric identity, has its age verification solution approved by the German Commission for the Protection of Minor in the Media (KJM).

‘Legal Certainty’ to Providers
The age verification solution provided by Incode Technologies verifies users against data from their ID cards, comparing their image on the card with a real-time selfie.

The technology facilitates the age verification process by providing guidelines to ensure the optimum scan of the ID card and photo of the user and once complete, the service performs tests to confirm authenticity and issues a score.

But I still wonder if this kind of technology is effective enough for those minors who use their parent's access accounts to gambling sites.  Will this be able to detect such action?  Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites?  

[1] https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/incodes-age-verification-approved-for-protecting-minors-in-germany/

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[davis196]

Minors had been flocking to the online Casino site without any restrictions.  They can blatantly access gambling sites with their parents' cards, fake their identities and so on.

So the minors are smart enough to fake their online identity? Really? This seems suspicious to me.
So they use their parent's debit/credit cards to gamble? Can't their parents view the transactions on their bank accounts? Can't they reverse unauthorized credit card transactions? If your kid is using your credit card to gamble, you are a lousy parent.
This new KYC regulation won't solve the problem. The real problem is the unregulated casinos that don't require ID verification. Who is going to stop those casinos from accepting underage gamblers? Another part of the problem is the aggressive advertising of casinos and sportsbooks.

[serjent05]

The key factor here is the verification of the authenticity of the documents submitted.  If the supposed provider can verify the authenticity of the documents with 100% accuracy then there is no doubt that this will greatly help the government prevent minors from playing on any online gambling sites under their jurisdiction.

The problem with minors using their parent's accounts can't be solved by such process because the problem is within the family and only the parents have the power to stop them by being more responsible and keeping their gambling accounts away from the reach of their kids.

[swogerino]

It is just a small step toward the protection of minors.Nowadays with crypto being expanded as much as it is even minors and by minors I mean people below the age of 18 it gives this class of people the opportunity to gamble without needing at all the credit card of their parents.Of course there will be difficulties as where to obtain the cryptos first but they can directly ask money from their parents to buy crypto and gamble all they want with that money.No government can do anything about this and the only persons who can stop minors by playing is education by their family,if the family is a good one and take care about everything the child/minor needs then there is no need for prevention mechanisms which do not work as I said.

[Kemarit]

Minors had been flocking to the online Casino site without any restrictions.  They can blatantly access gambling sites with their parents' cards, fake their identities and so on.

So the minors are smart enough to fake their online identity? Really? This seems suspicious to me.
So they use their parent's debit/credit cards to gamble? Can't their parents view the transactions on their bank accounts? Can't they reverse unauthorized credit card transactions? If your kid is using your credit card to gamble, you are a lousy parent.
This new KYC regulation won't solve the problem. The real problem is the unregulated casinos that don't require ID verification. Who is going to stop those casinos from accepting underage gamblers? Another part of the problem is the aggressive advertising of casinos and sportsbooks.

We can't discount the fact that minors knows a thing or two on how they can circumvent to continue their gambling. At least maybe some of us here when we were young have some tricks on their sleeve to not even around suspicions from our parents that we are indeed gambling.

But perhaps the government thinks this is a good way to at least control, but not sure if it will be effective in the long run. There could be loopholes that this minors can exploit.

[bittraffic]

We know there are casinos that suspect some users are minors but they are just allowing them because they make money out of it.

But its hard enough to trust a casino and then they are adding a 3rd party to scan the IDs. This time its not just the casino that have your data but also this Incode. Why the Germans will allow this, its all up to them.

[xSkylarx]

So the minors are smart enough to fake their online identity? Really? This seems suspicious to me.
So they use their parent's debit/credit cards to gamble? Can't their parents view the transactions on their bank accounts? Can't they reverse unauthorized credit card transactions? If your kid is using your credit card to gamble, you are a lousy parent.

OP didn't stated that minors use their parent's credit cards to fund their gambling habit. He said that minors use their parent's account for them to gamble. If this is really true, how come these parents didn't notice anything on the gambling history of their account. Even if their children use other way to fund their gambling account, they will surely notice if someone use their account other than them.

But I still wonder if this kind of technology is effective enough for those minors who use their parent's access accounts to gambling sites.  Will this be able to detect such action?  Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites?  

This won't protect minors but will only promote the unregulated casino or websites. Not everyone want their identity to be fully expose on the government, if they still have choice to not comply to these rules then they would surely prefer those that doesn't need that kind of verification.

[ethereumhunter]

The government applies technology like that on gambling sites to prevent minors from starting to gamble. However, this technology still needs development because at least the site requires a facial or biometric scanner to recognize whether a visitor is a minor or an adult. Technology can really help overcome the problem of underage gambling but here, what is more, emphasized is the issue of parental supervision of their children. Parents should really supervise their children, especially their children growing up. The support of technology like this can prevent online gambling problems in children and avoid addiction problems at a young age.

[Baofeng]

Online? nah I doubt that it will prevent minors from using any gambling platform. I'm not saying that it can't be prevented, but it's hard as this is online that we are talking about.

KYC might be a good tool, but still if they used their parents account then those minors are going to continue to play. And I do agree that casino should have the responsibility to try and filter out minors  but again it's going to be difficult. And who is going to stop when they are bringing money for them? It's a moral dilemma for online casinos.

[P2PECS]

It's a problem with the crypto gambling industry. Casinos that do not require KYC, by protecting privacy, also cannot know if minors are playing in them. In cases where there is KYC there are always ways to bypass it, like those who steal credit cards from parents, but eventually they will find out.

Although over time I suppose more and more crypto casinos will require KYC and prevent minors from playing.

[Maus0728]

This new KYC regulation won't solve the problem. The real problem is the unregulated casinos that don't require ID verification. Who is going to stop those casinos from accepting underage gamblers? Another part of the problem is the aggressive advertising of casinos and sportsbooks.

Partially agree but hey! Tackling age restrictions, particularly for children, is a significant issue in the gambling industry, and there is no one-size-fits-all solution. Although the approach may not totally fix the problem, it is unquestionably a greater step toward eradicating the problem. In line with this approach, it is still important parental guidance though...

However, the issue is that this is still a KYC that most of us do not agree to comply with.

[Coin_trader]

It's a problem with the crypto gambling industry. Casinos that do not require KYC, by protecting privacy, also cannot know if minors are playing in them. In cases where there is KYC there are always ways to bypass it, like those who steal credit cards from parents, but eventually they will find out.

Although over time I suppose more and more crypto casinos will require KYC and prevent minors from playing.

Crypto casino will surely follow this implemented law limited to German user by filtering them by IP just like what all casino doing on US and UK citizen which is not allowed to play. Crypto casino is obligated to follow because of there license despite they are operating with crypto which is not regulated, There license is always subjected to further audit if they are following the law on every country.

This KYC implementation will be good for removing minors but it be bad for all German citizens since it means a mandatory KYC to all of them on all online casino.

[goldkingcoiner]

Germany's advanced technology is a joke, really. The only thing which is advanced in Germany, and unnecessarily so, is the buerocracy.

Although please do not misunderstand; I am 100 percent all for keeping minors away from gambling or other things like drugs, which might cause a permanent dysfunction in the dopamine receptors of their still-growing brains.

Their brain growth should be unimpeded by outside interference.

[jrrsparkles]

This had been the main issue in online gambling.  Minors had been flocking to the online Casino site without any restrictions.  They can blatantly access gambling sites with their parents' cards, fake their identities and so on.  Germany does tackle this issue seriously and recently German Commission for the Protection of Minor in the Media (KJM). had a deal with Incode Technologies, a US-based specialist in biometric identity for the age verification solution.[1] 

The German government is very inclined that it will help greatly in protecting minors because of its advanced technology.

Incode Technologies, a US-based specialist in biometric identity, has its age verification solution approved by the German Commission for the Protection of Minor in the Media (KJM).

‘Legal Certainty’ to Providers
The age verification solution provided by Incode Technologies verifies users against data from their ID cards, comparing their image on the card with a real-time selfie.

The technology facilitates the age verification process by providing guidelines to ensure the optimum scan of the ID card and photo of the user and once complete, the service performs tests to confirm authenticity and issues a score.

But I still wonder if this kind of technology is effective enough for those minors who use their parent's access accounts to gambling sites.  Will this be able to detect such action?  Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites? 

https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/incodes-age-verification-approved-for-protecting-minors-in-germany/

I hope it will do the job why it is actually created for, but it will also affects the casinos badly due to increasing KYC requirements which may be also cause for an adult to feel uncomfortable to produce the biometric details if them while registering or logging in everytime. Can the casino give assurance for the data they are collecting will be safe forever?

[lionheart78]

But I still wonder if this kind of technology is effective enough for those minors who use their parent's access accounts to gambling sites.  Will this be able to detect such action?  Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites? 

Usually KYC involves selfie holding the ID so it's impossible to use this trick on stricter law imposed by the government. I doubt that the German government didn't think about this carefully by just requiring ID to verify the account. There might be some extra layer of security besides selfie to make sure minors will be filtered properly.

Definitely there is an extra layer of verification, I think the service provider has to process the authenticity of the submitted documents, optimizing the scans of IDs and photos for more precise identification.  This might prevent forgery or identify forgery.

Minors had been flocking to the online Casino site without any restrictions.  They can blatantly access gambling sites with their parents' cards, fake their identities and so on.

So the minors are smart enough to fake their online identity? Really? This seems suspicious to me.

Well, there are some smarty pants minors out there who think they can outwit people by faking their identity or age just to bypass certain securities.  Blame the internet for that  .

So they use their parent's debit/credit cards to gamble? Can't their parents view the transactions on their bank accounts? Can't they reverse unauthorized credit card transactions? If your kid is using your credit card to gamble, you are a lousy parent.

Most credit card holders don't know much about their cards transaction until they are notified, and true, there are lots of lousy irresponsible parents out there.

This new KYC regulation won't solve the problem. The real problem is the unregulated casinos that don't require ID verification. Who is going to stop those casinos from accepting underage gamblers? Another part of the problem is the aggressive advertising of casinos and sportsbooks.

True that, most of the problem regarding minors into gambling is created by these unregulated casinos.  That is why the government is busy tracking them down and shut them once they got a grip on it.

Germany's advanced technology is a joke, really. The only thing which is advanced in Germany, and unnecessarily so, is the buerocracy.

The service provider is a US-based specialist hired by the German Commission for the Protection of Minor in the Media (KJM) to enhance their intended services.

Incode Technologies, a US-based specialist in biometric identity, has its age verification solution approved by the German Commission for the Protection of Minor in the Media (KJM).

[aioc]

Germany's advanced technology is a joke, really. The only thing which is advanced in Germany, and unnecessarily so, is the buerocracy.

Although please do not misunderstand; I am 100 percent all for keeping minors away from gambling or other things like drugs, which might cause a permanent dysfunction in the dopamine receptors of their still-growing brains.

Their brain growth should be unimpeded by outside interference.

They just approved it, but there is still no result of its success rate, the technology may be good but we are talking of the internet are they going to go full censorship and full restrictions, that's the only way you can trace the user, we'll see how good is this so-called advanced technology to restrict minors, I still have doubt when it comes to the internet, the only way you can restrict minors from accessing online casinos is to totally ban online casinos in the country, but of course, we still have the VPN to unlock it.

[Ulven]

 Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites? 

In my opinion, the government should not rely exclusively on technology to protect minors from entering a gambling site via the Internet. Also, it is not enough for the government alone to implement such measures, as others must become engaged in educating children about this issue. This is why I believe that conducting large-scale debates aimed at protecting minors from joining gambling would be useful!!!

[The Author]

We know there are casinos that suspect some users are minors but they are just allowing them because they make money out of it.

But its hard enough to trust a casino and then they are adding a 3rd party to scan the IDs. This time its not just the casino that have your data but also this Incode. Why the Germans will allow this, its all up to them.

Exactly!
Most casinos are fully aware that majority of their users are minors still they allow them to join and freely access every feature of theirs no minding the implications of their actions.
They just have the one rule of making money at any cost. 

Will this kind of technology can trully protect minors and prevent them to access gambling sites? 

I doubt it can

In my opinion, the government should not rely exclusively on technology to protect minors from entering a gambling site via the Internet. Also, it is not enough for the government alone to implement such measures, as others must become engaged in educating children about this issue. This is why I believe that conducting large-scale debates aimed at protecting minors from joining gambling would be useful!!!

However the sad reality is that some governments especially in the African part simply do not care about all of these, and the minors on their own part may see this as an opportunity of making money.
So in that case, who educates who?

[Slow death]

well let's imagine that a 16 year old kid in Germany takes his money (money that his parents gave him) buys cryptocurrencies and then opens an account at an online casino, uses a VPN and makes a deposit and starts playing. my question:

How will this child be discovered?

Would this Incode Technologies system find out that the least has an account at casino Z and is using cryptocurrencies to make deposits and play?

I would say the following:

Nowadays children already have access to smarphones and computers very early, what parents need to do is pay more attention to the child, provide civic and moral education to children, this is the only solution. when parents are negligent then children will get involved early in gambling, drinking, alcohol, robberies, murders, pornography and many other harmful things

[Apocollapse]

What if the kid using a filter to make him looks like an adult and then the video he used to fake the biometric verification? I think it's kinda possible if the site only ask the biometric verification without ID. We're in 21st century and technology are improve really lot every year, anyone can use any tools that appeared in the google. There's nothing to stop this, except he's.