Strange pubkey (real existing or not)

[Kostelooscoin]

Hello, I would like to have more information about the public key:

By choosing half of 2^256 private keys:

7fffffffffffffffffffffffffffff5d576e7357a4501ddfe92f46681b20a0 has for public key: 03000000000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c63

the public key is a little strange but let us say that it is simply the symmetry which makes that and thus if I increase of 1 the private key: 7fffffffffffffffffffffffff5d576e7357a4501ddfe92f46681b20a1 it has for public key:
0300000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c63

what is normal is the symmetry.

the strange thing is that if I add 1 to the public key :
0300000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c64

apparently it exists because it is connected to this bitcoin address:
13vSJ5pXUcUqiKoFN1gm7ffHVpK45G7b3e.

My question is this:
Does this public key really exist or not ?
And would they be positioned at strategic points ?

because if I continue it works

0200000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c68  1LQiRWwELhChkpuAaC6tFpSDqpdjR3fYiC
0200000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c6a  172N3FM1uEjzSx28Tg1aoSzDqgmd9yqqCa
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[odolvlobo]

To answer your question, you can make an address out of any public key, whether it is valid or not. An address is simply an encoded hash of a public key.

The public key 0400...00 is not valid, but its address is 16QaFeudRUt8NYy2yzjm3BMvG4xBbAsBFM

FYI, there are numerous typos in your post.

1. Your private key:

Code:

actual: 7fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff5d576e7357a4501ddfe92f46681b20a0
yours : 7fffffffffffffffffffffffffffff5d576e7357a4501ddfe92f46681b20a0

2. Public key of 7fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff5d576e7357a4501ddfe92f46681b20a0:

Code:

actual: 0300000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c63
yours : 03000000000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c63

2. Public key of 7fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff5d576e7357a4501ddfe92f46681b20a1:

Code:

actual: 0200000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c63
yours : 0300000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c63

[pooya87]

I don't see anything strange here. You have a key pair and you negate it and it still has the same x coordinate and a different y; which is how it is supposed to work.

Code:

k = -k
P(x,y) = P(x,-y)

Then you try different x values for a public key and some of them are valid in the equation y^2 = x^3 + ax + b (mod p). The x values you choose are not special, you could have decremented it so much to reach the following and it still be a valid x for example.

Code:

0300000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000f9c64

[NotATether]

It just so happens that at the line of symmetry of private keys, there are two public keys with the same Y but differing X, as demonstrated in the posts above. In this example the "odd X" key came before the "even X" key, but this pattern is not repeated across the other private keys.

Naturally, one will find that by taking the recirpocal (subtracting by the key order i.e. num. priv keys) of the key will induce the opposite parity of X but preserve the Y value. It is not possible with current methods to determine which private keys are going to have even X, and which ones will have odd X.

[Kostelooscoin]

0200000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c68  1LQiRWwELhChkpuAaC6tFpSDqpdjR3fYiC
0200000000000000000000003b78ce563f89a0ed9414f5aa28ad0d96d6795f9c6a  172N3FM1uEjzSx28Tg1aoSzDqgmd9yqqCa

Does it really exist in the 2^256?

[pooya87]

Does it really exist in the 2^256?

Your question is wrong. What you are posting is supposed to be the x coordinate of a point (x and y coordinates) that is only valid if it is located on the elliptic curve used by bitcoin called secp256k1. In order to check if a point is on curve you have to solve the curve's equation which is y² = x³ + 7.
So basically you cube your x and add 7 to it then you check to see if it has an square root modulo p.

[odolvlobo]

Does it really exist in the 2^256?

So basically you multiply your x by 3 cube your x and add 7 to it then you check to see if it has an square root modulo p.

ftfy

[Kostelooscoin]

So these public keys exist ??


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[garlonicon]

So these public keys exist ??

Of course. If you know "trap addresses" like 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE, then you should also understand, that it is possible to pick some public key that has unknown private key, so a "trap public key". For example:

Code:

SHA-256("This public key is unspendable")=f77482c2e8cd1cb8bb8a19634fa3a69c5ad86221409c1dacd7d573cd000cb6d5
04F77482C2E8CD1CB8BB8A19634FA3A69C5AD86221409C1DACD7D573CD000CB6D55B2DAA6AEFCAB09DC90C18D3C70BF17DB11F67551E089B6BC64EC0FC077CA0B4

As you can see, this key also exists. In theory, there is some valid (but unknown) private key, that can be used to unlock it, but in practice, if such keys will ever be spendable, then ECDSA will be gone.

[Kostelooscoin]

So these public keys exist ??

Of course. If you know "trap addresses" like 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE, then you should also understand, that it is possible to pick some public key that has unknown private key, so a "trap public key". For example:

Code:

SHA-256("This public key is unspendable")=f77482c2e8cd1cb8bb8a19634fa3a69c5ad86221409c1dacd7d573cd000cb6d5
04F77482C2E8CD1CB8BB8A19634FA3A69C5AD86221409C1DACD7D573CD000CB6D55B2DAA6AEFCAB09DC90C18D3C70BF17DB11F67551E089B6BC64EC0FC077CA0B4

As you can see, this key also exists. In theory, there is some valid (but unknown) private key, that can be used to unlock it, but in practice, if such keys will ever be spendable, then ECDSA will be gone.

thank you very much 

[pooya87]

If you know "trap addresses" like 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE, then you should also understand, that it is possible to pick some public key that has unknown private key, so a "trap public key".

To be clear the address you posted was not created from a public key because it would be impossible to find such a big HASH160 collision that corresponds to "759d6677091e973b9e9d99f19c68fbf43e3f05f9". What they did to create this address was to simply create the Base58 string then brute force the last couple of characters to have the correct checksum.

[PawGo]

To be clear the address you posted was not created from a public key because it would be impossible to find such a big HASH160 collision that corresponds to "759d6677091e973b9e9d99f19c68fbf43e3f05f9". What they did to create this address was to simply create the Base58 string then brute force the last couple of characters to have the correct checksum.

Why brute forced?
Address is base58 encoded ripemd160 hash, which means that any base 58 text you may decode to hash160, calculate checksum, append to the known part (previously decoded text) and encode again using base 58.
That way you receive correctly generated address - hash160 from unknown source (as you do not know which pubkey hashed sha256 created that hash160) and corresponding checksum.