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May 06, 2022, 11:58:41 AM
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Imho your title is misleading because you wrote clients instead of employees Wink

I am referring to customers/clients and not to employees, so I don't see why it is misleading.

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May 06, 2022, 10:26:14 PM
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Is this my guess or do you think I might be right?
We dont know on what are the criterias of campaign manager but the thing you do said was right.You would really be raising up some questions on why some had been chosen and some hadn't.

They are the ones who do really look into someones profile whether they might have able to skip it out or simply they do see a particular member is been active on a specific board that
they are looking for despite of merit counts and been focusing instead with the activity.

Spending up campaign pay on the platform is just a presumption imho since most of the time people would really be withdrawing those campaign pay.

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May 09, 2022, 09:19:13 PM
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I don't think that signature campaigns prioritize clients because it would be difficult to know that Bitcointalk member is customer of specific website, especially if cmpaign managed by hired manager who don't have access to database of customers. But I'm sure that managers prioritize potential customers to get hired. Example about degenerate gambler is good. It's likely that in gambling camapign he would be prioritized, even if he isn't best poster, instead of picking good poster who don't have much idea about gambling.
But that's just gambling campaigns. How about exchanges or mixer, who exactly is potential customers of such services. I think in such kind of camapigns participants is chosen solely based on posting quality and where these post is made.

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May 09, 2022, 10:04:49 PM
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Well, first of all I'm not sure if this thread belongs to this board, if you think it doesn't, tell me and I'll move it or report it.

The title is not quite accurate either because due to the maximum number of characters I have not been able to put everything I wanted.

It has happened to me sometimes that when I have seen the people accepted in signature campaings I have not understood very well why certain people have been accepted and not others. This has happened to me only when there are vacancies, like 1 or 2 and with decent signature campaigns, I don't mean the crappy spam like 1xBit and others like that.

In the decent signature campaigns, as I said, sometimes I have seen members with little merits in relation to the activity, for example, chosen over people who have a much better ratio, and I think the main reason could be that it is taken into account that they are customers of the business. Probably at least part of what they are going to earn in the signature campaign they are going to spend in the business (or even more if it is a casino).

I don't know what you think about this. It is clear to me that the campaign managers will not only take into account the merits in relation to the activity, but also if they post on certain boards for example and other factors.

As I say, this has only happened to me in certain cases, in campaigns that I consider decent and that, in general, have quality posters.

Is this my guess or do you think I might be right?

When it comes to the 1xbet signature campaign, it's not that easy to get to. New applications of users have not been accepted for a long time.

As for whether users (for example casinos) are accepted first in signature campaigns, I think it doesn't matter.
Signature managers are usually not part of the project, but only external freelancers, so they do not know if a given user is a client or not.
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May 10, 2022, 07:39:43 AM
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When it comes to the 1xbet signature campaign, it's not that easy to get to. New applications of users have not been accepted for a long time.


Hahha, you are funny.
1xbit is one of the worst ever signature campaign here. Only dishonest members want to join in there. Unfortunately there are quite a few of you, much more than they can handle.

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May 16, 2022, 01:10:15 PM
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When it comes to the 1xbet signature campaign, it's not that easy to get to. New applications of users have not been accepted for a long time.



I'll believe you if the best posters and reputable members are the applicants but it's not, they have to accept people who are willing to ruin their reputation, and they don't have trusted members in your campaign, new applications of users are not accepted because their posts do not live up to what the bounty managers are looking for and your manager is hoping that a good posters with a good reputation will drop their application but that will not happen.

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May 16, 2022, 10:00:45 PM
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When it comes to the 1xbet signature campaign, it's not that easy to get to. New applications of users have not been accepted for a long time.


Hahha, you are funny.
1xbit is one of the worst ever signature campaign here. Only dishonest members want to join in there. Unfortunately there are quite a few of you, much more than they can handle.




When it comes to the 1xbet signature campaign, it's not that easy to get to. New applications of users have not been accepted for a long time.



I'll believe you if the best posters and reputable members are the applicants but it's not, they have to accept people who are willing to ruin their reputation, and they don't have trusted members in your campaign, new applications of users are not accepted because their posts do not live up to what the bounty managers are looking for and your manager is hoping that a good posters with a good reputation will drop their application but that will not happen.

I don't know what would you like to believe me? Just look at a fake campaign that someone created quite recently. Two pages are full of applications and ahd been filled up fairly quickly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5398617.0

I wrote that it is not easy to get into the 1xbit campaign which is just a fact. If it were otherwise, everyone would be accepted, but it is not.
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May 17, 2022, 07:25:21 PM
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I don't know what would you like to believe me? Just look at a fake campaign that someone created quite recently. Two pages are full of applications and ahd been filled up fairly quickly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5398617.0

I wrote that it is not easy to get into the 1xbit campaign which is just a fact. If it were otherwise, everyone would be accepted, but it is not.
It's not easy to get into 1xbit campaign not because it's high quality campaign where best posters is accepted. It's because 1xbit campaign have limited slots available, unlike probably worst ever campaign in terms of quality - Yobit. And there is more people who ready to ruin their reputation for few bucks than available spots.

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May 17, 2022, 07:33:16 PM
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As I say, this has only happened to me in certain cases, in campaigns that I consider decent and that, in general, have quality posters.

Is this my guess or do you think I might be right?

The reason could be anything... Maybe the sig camp manager likes the that certain forum user more because he posts the way the manager likes, maybe they know each other irl, maybe they did some trades before and the manager feels like he owes that user something somehow...

We can't really know it but only can have a guess. Tbh, from time to time I get the same feeling also but it is not a big deal. People are people in the end. We are not machines, we are emotional creatures and we can't be perfect... The sooner you accept this, the better everything will become for you.

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May 17, 2022, 09:19:24 PM
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I don't know what would you like to believe me? Just look at a fake campaign that someone created quite recently. Two pages are full of applications and ahd been filled up fairly quickly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5398617.0

I wrote that it is not easy to get into the 1xbit campaign which is just a fact. If it were otherwise, everyone would be accepted, but it is not.
It's not easy to get into 1xbit campaign not because it's high quality campaign where best posters is accepted. It's because 1xbit campaign have limited slots available, unlike probably worst ever campaign in terms of quality - Yobit. And there is more people who ready to ruin their reputation for few bucks than available spots.

The reasons why it is difficult to get into a signature campaign can be different. The limited number of places is the main reason for all the campaigns I know, 1xbit also.

However, when it comes to the fact that priority is given to users who are clients of the project launching the campaign, in my opinion it is unlikely. The manager would have to know them in advance, so if the project itself does not give a list, of shilling accounts they own, the manager simply won't know who their client is.
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May 20, 2022, 10:34:40 AM
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I don't think that signature campaigns prioritize clients because it would be difficult to know that Bitcointalk member is customer of specific website, especially if cmpaign managed by hired manager who don't have access to database of customers. But I'm sure that managers prioritize potential customers to get hired. Example about degenerate gambler is good. It's likely that in gambling camapign he would be prioritized, even if he isn't best poster, instead of picking good poster who don't have much idea about gambling.
But that's just gambling campaigns. How about exchanges or mixer, who exactly is potential customers of such services. I think in such kind of camapigns participants is chosen solely based on posting quality and where these post is made.
For me, I don't think they need to know who's a user of a specific website, however when it comes to gambling signature campaigns, it's pretty easy to determine where users are spending their money, since they often posting on a specific sites announcement thread.

The reason I don't think they need to know specifically is, they want to convince already gamblers to come to their website. Therefore, if they hire these type of uses to promote their signature, then they're getting the best of both worlds. They're getting their name out there, and the user that they've hired also has a high chance of going to them to spend their earnings. Therefore, gambling signature campaigns might be able to offer higher rates than normal, since their participants are going to come back to them, and spend a bit of what they've earned, and therefore they get that money back.

For other signature campaigns that doesn't involve gambling it's a bit harder. Although, I can think of a few examples that would be a good indicator that they would use their service after advertising it.
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June 04, 2022, 01:38:06 PM
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I don't know what you think about this. It is clear to me that the campaign managers will not only take into account the merits in relation to the activity, but also if they post on certain boards for example and other factors.



Some bounty managers will take merit as a factor but a post that generates further discussion and quotable post is a good indication that the poster is a good poster, the purpose of the signature campaign is the visibility of the signature code, so managers will choose a good poster that can make the project he is posting generate more views, I never see a requirement that you need to be an active player of the project you are promoting to participate in a campaign.
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June 12, 2022, 11:51:50 AM
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What you pointed out happens mostly because of two conditions according to my personal observations:
  • Some good users are gambling posters(especially casino) and they are also gamblers. Which means they actually know the reputation of every gambling campaign. It is very easy for such users to get into any gambling related campaign, even if their merits are less compared to the activity. The managers understand that much merit doesn't flow in the gambling boards.
  • Another strong reason would be that, the manager has worked with the user previously and he must have trusted the user to be a descent poster. So, he wouldn't hesitate to hire the user even with little merit count

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