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June 18, 2022, 12:22:07 PM
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I don't like and don't use Apple, but I think decisions like this should be based on the desires of users. Do the majority of users support the switch to biometrics?
I personally tend to use passwords and find it a bit unsettling when my own body is used to open things, apps and stuff like that. Also, from fingerprint lock on the phone, I know that it often doesn't read well, and it can be annoying when you need access to something but the fingerprint is read incorrectly many times. Not to mention that yes, there's plenty of hardware that doesn't have fingerprint support, so it's very elitist, like Apple always is.

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June 18, 2022, 01:11:40 PM
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Attempting to replace passwords with fingerprints && facial recognition is never going to succeed, no matter who tries. There will always be a voiceforous population using the devices that will never consent to using these methods of authentication for privacy or usability reasons (e.g. what happens when you're wearing gloves during winter, or sunglasses), and since Apple is the one implementing this, it's guarranteed to fail because they never look beyond their own product ecosystem.
Hah, I wish I share your optimism. The one thing I know about people is that majority will always choose convenience over safety and I already see people all around me using fingerprint scanner instead passwords whenever they can, and the only reason why it hasn't spread more is because its mostly reserved to more expensive mobile phones&laptops  and other tech but soon enough it will spread to lower end and then everyone will use it.


Maybe they get a few million people to use it, but nobody is going to be able to not only force websites to implement such an authentication BUT SIMULTANEOUSLY force users to change their passwords at the same time.
These things don't happen overnight, they are playing the long game.


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June 18, 2022, 01:42:36 PM
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I don't like and don't use Apple, but I think decisions like this should be based on the desires of users. Do the majority of users support the switch to biometrics?
I personally tend to use passwords and find it a bit unsettling when my own body is used to open things, apps and stuff like that. Also, from fingerprint lock on the phone, I know that it often doesn't read well, and it can be annoying when you need access to something but the fingerprint is read incorrectly many times. Not to mention that yes, there's plenty of hardware that doesn't have fingerprint support, so it's very elitist, like Apple always is.

I am using some apple products, it really gives a better experience than others. But I agree with the tendency to use passwords like you do, using fingerprint lock or face recognition is really convenient and fast for users. But I feel there is too much risk when someone attacks and hijacks our phones, they don't need to ask for a password, just a few simple steps of putting the phone on our face, they have can be unlocked easily. I am using an old iphone with fingerprint lock function but for the most part I prefer to use passwords for my important apps.

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June 18, 2022, 01:55:39 PM
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With improving technology each day I am sure they will improve and will be in a state where they give zero errors. However I feel there is a bigger threat with biometrics kicking in which is sensitivity of our data. This is giving our facial metrics info and fingerprint scans to a private body, who we don't know what will do with this data point? Today it's not that difficult to fabricate a false fingerprint On a crime scene but I am pretty sure same won't be the case 10 years from now.
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June 19, 2022, 04:16:48 AM
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Governments can get a warrant through the judicial system and physically force you to give up your thumb print to unlock a device. Face ID would work the same way. They're not safe for the user.

I wonder how they plan to make the system secure against malware and similar attacks. I'd assume maybe a separate chip would be the best way to go with this but that might eat into their profits so they'll probably find a way that's less secure but still robust against attackers (eg a space away from where a normal user or app would be able to access).

I'd be surprised if this hasn't already been attempted or already been done with this already, I think this technology could be made more secure if an nfc card was also used to offer an extra key to decrypt the password database (eg the main encryption key as you won't get much with that alone - they can also likely already be made more secure as bank cards have already had to be).

Apple invests a ton into cybersecurity R&D but no system is impenetrable. Biometrics being stored locally isn't enough if someone were to get hold of the device (ie law enforcement) and bypass any security measures. I wouldn't be concerned about the ordinary person who doesn't have the resources to bypass Apple's own security measures -- law enforcement could probably seek legal avenues to have biometrics scrapped from the device, forcing Apple to cooperate.
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Apple invests a ton into cybersecurity R&D but no system is impenetrable. Biometrics being stored locally isn't enough if someone were to get hold of the device (ie law enforcement) and bypass any security measures. I wouldn't be concerned about the ordinary person who doesn't have the resources to bypass Apple's own security measures -- law enforcement could probably seek legal avenues to have biometrics scrapped from the device, forcing Apple to cooperate.
These technical inventions are good but than to implement them globally is not an easy task. My office started a project of an app - that was huge problem implementing it in other country because of the change in the systems. Maybe in near future this issue will get resolved but not in the near future.

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June 20, 2022, 08:46:57 AM
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So, if I want to share my password with someone I would need to cut my head or fingers and pass it over?  Grin

Biometrics is considered as of now slightly less secure than other methods of protection, I would not like to loose my user / pass access, old style, that, until now, has given me zero problems other than an occasional need to reset the passwords and the like.

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June 20, 2022, 09:11:51 AM
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So, if I want to share my password with someone I would need to cut my head or fingers and pass it over?  Grin

Biometrics is considered as of now slightly less secure than other methods of protection, I would not like to loose my user / pass access, old style, that, until now, has given me zero problems other than an occasional need to reset the passwords and the like.
If apple makes it a rule - than obviously people will do it.
But I am not sure why would they want to go to biometric since that might not be possible for the other regions. However may be in coming future they manage to do it.

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