Strong russia and china narrative vs weak usa but the thing is

[be.open]

Russia and China are powerful countries. Russia is developing its economy thanks to sanctions, China supports it in this. India joined this alliance and I think these powerful powers have every chance to bypass the USA. Negotiations are currently underway to switch trade completely from dollars to rupees. This is a big breakthrough and support for the economies of these countries. Now new centers of power are emerging and this must be taken into account. These countries have large territories, a large population, a powerful army, and high technology. There is something to think about...

If you didn’t read Russian fake propaganda, you would perfectly understand that Russia for China is just an appendage that sells any resources to it for cheap, as others refuse them! A simple example that you can easily check is that Russia's budget, in the area of ​​oil revenues, is built on a price of $70+ per barrel. The indicative (this is not the real purchase price) of Urals oil is 100+ dollars, Europe refuses it, and China agreed to buy it, no more than 40 dollars per barrel. For myself, and I don’t rule it out for sale For one thing, let me remind you why Russia agrees to such conditions - and it simply has nowhere to store excess oil produced, and it is FORCED to sell at least to someone, at least for some money, otherwise it will have to conserve the fields, and after the sanctions, technologically backward Russia itself will not be able to launch them on a new one! Everything is extremely simple, and you do not need to invent something!

This is not true, the price of Ural oil of $44.2 is included in the Russian budget for 2022. This is public information and is easy to verify on your own. Data on the size of the discount to China and India is more difficult to verify, but according to various sources, it does not exceed $30-35 per barrel. The average price of oil that Russia sells to Asia is about $80 per barrel, almost double the budgeted price level. However, due to the strengthening of the ruble against the dollar, the situation in reality is a little worse, but right now Russia is receiving excess profits from oil exports, part of which goes to replenish the National Welfare Fund.

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[Wind_FURY]

They say dollar going weaker and weaker usa economy dont look good....but here is the thing...the wall street is in usa not in russia not in china and by no means wall streeet moguls and bankers can become poor overnight.

Until we dont see same wall street who rules over everything from new york and chigaco we can not expecting china and russia strengh....or anyone has some info that wall street offices and data centers will be moved out of usa ? Until no moves the usa remain economically strong second might be london uk becouse there is city of london where is a lot trading going on so uk might be second important country after usa so economics of usa and uk cant go lower then russia or china there is no wall street in china either....world economic is run by wall street how they turn numbers up and down so we are depend of this factors.

Also dont forget that bank of new york they direct REPO transactions no country has so far no rights for this until we dont  see china or russia will set up REPO department to connect the markets with money liquitity we can not talk about china or russia power over usa the country who controls repo funds like fed and federal resrrve bank of ny does it will say how we role thats it.

Second point forget about gas oil food supply....if you have money you buy it so only matter is the who controls money supply.

I hope i clearified how the economy works.

I don't fully understand what you're saying, but have you forgotten that Wall Street bankers are just merely corrupted gamblers wearing suits, WHO needed a bail out, and had the tax payers pay for the bill?

I'm not condoning this man's actions. President Putin delivered this speech, and I believe he is forecasting a move away from the U.S. Dollar and U.S. debt, https://www.adamtownsend.me/putin-speech/

Translation of important parts in this tweet, https://twitter.com/stackhodler/status/1539888526589820929

[Ucy]

The so called Wall street no longer have that kind of power. It has been given to Russia for the time being until the "Red King" comes back.

Money is worthless if you don't have control over the world and its resources..

Russia is currently above the rest economically because they have real control over much of the world. They don't fully realize yet.

Don't worry my friends from USA and others. Everything is for our own good. In two to three years you will understand.



My advice: Any Western Nation that wants to be above others after Russia should ally with Russia

[Wind_FURY]

The so called Wall street no longer have that kind of power. It has been given to Russia for the time being until the "Red King" comes back.

Money is worthless if you don't have control over the world and its resources..

Russia is currently above the rest economically because they have real control over much of the world. They don't fully realize yet.

Don't worry my friends from USA and other. Everything is for our own good. In two to three years you will understand.



My advice: Any Western Nation that want to be above after Russia should ally with Russia

It's also, "Money is worthless if no one wants to transact in that currency". That's why the Federal Reserve doesn't know what to do, between saving the Dollar or saving the economy. Saving the Dollar would mean there is no "soft landing" for the economy. Saving the economy would mean hyperinflation for the Dollar. Plus between deflationary policy and an inflationary policy, it's easier to manage the system under and inflationary policy.

[Ucy]

The so called Wall street no longer have that kind of power. It has been given to Russia for the time being until the "Red King" comes back.

Money is worthless if you don't have control over the world and its resources..

Russia is currently above the rest economically because they have real control over much of the world. They don't fully realize yet.

Don't worry my friends from USA and other. Everything is for our own good. In two to three years you will understand.



My advice: Any Western Nation that want to be above after Russia should ally with Russia

It's also, "Money is worthless if no one wants to transact in that currency". That's why the Federal Reserve doesn't know what to do, between saving the Dollar or saving the economy. Saving the Dollar would mean there is no "soft landing" for the economy. Saving the economy would mean hyperinflation for the Dollar. Plus between deflationary policy and an inflationary policy, it's easier to manage the system under and inflationary policy.

I guess you are right. If for example you control the World but people refuse to transact in your currency I would probably advise you to tie your currency to all natural resources. If someone owns a piece of land, he/she automatically own its value equivalent in your currency. If he wants to buy 2 goats, he sells part of the land for the goats ... the former goat owner now owns a part of the land and automatically its equivalent value in your currency. That is probably a kind of bartering, which I actually prefer... I prefer Trade by Barter

[amishmanish]

There are different ways of looking at the strength of a country,  Yes US is still the strongest country in the world, but it has lost its hegemony and world is now less dependent on US than it used to be. As for economy is concerned I believe US is not growing as fast as other countries are, and I believe Trump actually tried to fuel up US economy, but than he was into so many things that he actually achieved little. Now we have Biden who is either working behind the scene or is too scared to do anything. So for now Yes USA is still the strongest, but others may soon catchup

[Fortify]

They say dollar going weaker and weaker usa economy dont look good....but here is the thing...the wall street is in usa not in russia not in china and by no means wall streeet moguls and bankers can become poor overnight.
Until we dont see same wall street who rules over everything from new york and chigaco we can not expecting china and russia strengh....or anyone has some info that wall street offices and data centers will be moved out of usa ? Until no moves the usa remain economically strong second might be london uk becouse there is city of london where is a lot trading going on so uk might be second important country after usa so economics of usa and uk cant go lower then russia or china there is no wall street in china either....world economic is run by wall street how they turn numbers up and down so we are depend of this factors.
Also dont forget that bank of new york they direct REPO transactions no country has so far no rights for this until we dont  see china or russia will set up REPO department to connect the markets with money liquitity we can not talk about china or russia power over usa the country who controls repo funds like fed and federal resrrve bank of ny does it will say how we role thats it.
Second point forget about gas oil food supply....if you have money you buy it so only matter is the who controls money supply.

I hope i clearified how the economy works.

The way you write needs a vast improvement if you expect to be "clearifying" anything at all, it's extremely hard to read and full of spelling mistakes - you need to structure it better so people comprehend what you're saying otherwise it's pointless. The underlying theme seems to be that China does not have a wall street, which in some ways is true, external finance needs to feel secure when investing in a country and the Chinese government is so erratic it is hard to predict their actions. This is a major turn off to investors who like stability and predictability, so a lot of financing is held off shore. Without independent institutions and a solid rule of law which cannot be manipulated to the whims of politicians, then they will never break free of this problem.

[edgycorner]

You are underestimating china here. While I do agree that US has a very diversified economy with advancements in technology but so does China.
It is projected to surpass the United States in the next decade or so. There are a few reasons for this. China has a population of over 1.3 billion people, which is a huge market. They also have a very low labor cost, which makes their products very competitive in the global market.
The only advantage US has right now is "technology". But China can surpass US there too if they play their Taiwan card correctly. It will be an important factor in China's technology development, as the island is home to many high-tech companies and has a highly educated population. By collaborating with Taiwanese businesses and universities, China can gain access to the latest technological advancements and strengthen its own technological development.
It will require some bootlicking from China's side lol
And don't forget about south china sea.

[robattfield]

The theory isn't realistic here. I think the OP might be a bit paranoid about the ability to dominate the economy from one side. Yes, they did, but not all. The world includes more than just the US, and in fact, in recent years, they have been losing their own position as the rise of the eastern countries in the economy as well as in different fields. And China and Russia are the countries that are proving what the OP said was wrong when they are still very strong in the face of control and interference from the US.