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June 26, 2022, 07:46:22 PM
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You should follow this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386945.0
There 1miau only spreads lies, attacks the members. That's what he does, nothing else.

Yes, those threads are really recommended to see Unknown01, thandie, Poly#Crypto, MinoRaiola, s0nix, Beobachter90, etc. spreading their lies, insulting other users and spamming Off-Topic posts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386945.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228542.0 (this thread is even about to be closed due to their actions)
Yes  Cheesy Cheesy

But add this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5392188.0

Shitposters crying that quality posts are too "time consuming" and posting from their phone is too difficult to write longer posts.  Cheesy

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June 26, 2022, 07:52:45 PM
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Maybe it would be a good idea for you to stop mocking established accounts, the real contributors here.

You mean yourself? lol
It would be a good idea for you to stop your lies and foul slander.
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June 26, 2022, 08:00:43 PM
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Some people have too much free time.  Cheesy

I've seen how guerilla marketing works. Those get benefits irl, not in the forum. Paid trolls may be in the same category.
And making an army of accounts for being convincing and for producing some sort of discussion look alike is part of the job.
So it's not necessarily about having too much time.

For example, we have already rules in place like trolling spam and similar but it's not easy to decide here.

Yes, that's what I've been also trying to say.

I've reported some shitposts in the international section and all of them were remowed. That's how reporters and moderators can make Bitcointalk a better place with lesse spam.

Well, you have to do the same in the German sub. Non-German users cannot really help there.

But after all, the most essential thing is, that people participating on Bitcointalk have at least some sort of self-awareness:
Are my posts beneficial for Bitcointalk or am I abusing Bitcointalk as a dump for my propaganda?

We should try to be people from the first category.  Smiley

I think that the vast majority is okay. But, like everywhere, there will be some who think that's smarter to pee against the wind.

I'm still hoping for more self-awareness how such low-quality posters are destroying the forum, even damaging Bitcoin's reputation. Most of the are just here to earn, some are just here to troll.
People brought that up in our local section, shitposters didn't care.
We keep trying.  Smiley

I stopped having such an utopic view on humans. The good thing is that bitcoin has became so famous that even the worse kind of people can have account on bitcointalk and post his .. things. Good (!) or bad (!).
Those spamming and trolling definitely don't care about the forum. Expecting that (or anything good) from them is useless, really.

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June 26, 2022, 08:09:12 PM
Last edit: June 26, 2022, 08:19:15 PM by MinoRaiola
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Hi @all

The only problem is @1miau himself with his authoritarian tendency.
I can confirm that, I have already been attacked by PM and I should change my mind... but free opinion is important in a forum, right?



Why should we be friends? I celebrated a friendly get-together today with +20 people in a rented barbecue area. For me, friendship is something different, but everyone has their own opinion.

I find it strange how the accounts act so quickly with each other, as if it was planned. 1miau is also for me the main problem and source of mobbing in the German Local. Many Users are attacked by him and they use the ignore function. I am in the clear for myself and will continue to work for the German community in the future. Here in the forum limited, as I can make it even bigger privately.

Lol, this thread is a farce.

No wonder they are ignored by many users on the German Board.
Yes unfortunately, years ago he was a cool guy, nur people change.


Edit: Excuse me, but I have him on ignore. If it is something important, please send me a PM. This time, please, without attack. Thanks

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I'm glad that the thread was opened, now we can finally put all the facts on the table and hopefully this will also calm down the situation on our German board. Just to be clear, my English isn't the best and as noted I'm from the German area so sorry for any mistakes in english that I write.

Our German board is basically very familiar, we hardly have anyone there who writes really pointless things, you can also ask our moderator about this on the German board. We have been helping each other for years and newcomers are very welcome! The text is now a little longer, but I have to describe everything in detail that has happened so far and my statements can be confirmed afterwards by various old members from our board, including our moderator mole0815, who will also confirm my statements. I would even be willing to make these statements under oath.

Regarding this thread about Kamix: I haven't threatened him with a ban or a reputation thread. Recently, more and more new accounts have appeared on our board that are hardly active, have no rank, but insult and attack accounts with higher ranks (strangely enough, almost exclusively accounts with which 1miau has problems), some of this persons have been on this board for 10 years. For this reason I have made the note that I keep a list of suspicious accounts that I may forward to theymos for for control!

So there is absolutely no reason to assume that I would seek a ban on a newbie. On the contrary, I am always ready to help others as far as my knowledge is sufficient and where I don't know what to do, I always refer to colleagues who are knowledgeable and can help. The very simple reason why Kamix has now opened this thread is that 1miau has been threatening for months to open a reputation thread in which he would like to report that I´m a Shitposter and other things that are absolutely not true. With this thread, which was started by Kamix, he wants to intimidate us and at the same time accounts like Nestade and 1miau, who are close to each other, are included here. We have close contact among old members on the German board and the suspicion that these accounts are related has existed in our community for a long time. In principle, multi-accounts are not forbidden either, but if they are used to exchange merits or are used in campaigns such as Chipmixer to write posts (by leading monologues under 2 separate accounts from one person), those would definitely be points here are not wanted, right?



But now I have to direct the topic to 1miau, since he is the main reason why this topic was opened here (but it should remain hidden). I'm sure that he encouraged Kamix (if he were to be a different person at all) to open a thread here so that he doesn't have to officially take the first step (I've been threatened with opening it for a long time). I have him on Ignore and can't read his posts but I'm sure he must have posted accusations against me here as well. I was insulted by him on a daily basis and although I asked him several times to have a polite conversation with me, this didn't stop.

His attacks on me started in the Corona thread (off-topic), after I asked everyone in the thread to calm down a bit (at this time I didn't want to mention 1miau personally so as not to portray him badly, although he actually insulted everyone) and then began his attacks on my person. Since then I've been called a shitposter, liar, rule-breaker, etc. but those are just the harmless terms, there were even worse things. Since the 1st trust entry I have him on the ignore list after the moderator asked me not to continue the conflict, since then he has written 2 more trust entries on the same topic, then Nestade and Kamix also wrote the same entries on me, well should someone explain to me whether that is actually the purpose of the trust system?

After his 1st trust entry there was sharp criticism from almost all members of the German board because the content would not correspond to the truth and his actions would be wrong. To name just a few members who have written reviews who might also want to write their impressions: Lakai01, mole0815, MinoRaiola, ... Read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5392188.0

Then there was a reference to Hhampuz who allegedly called me a shitposter, which is absolutely not true, since we only had a small discussion about which posts would not have been counted and for what reason. In the meantime I had exchanged a few messages with Hhampuz and as far as I know he is very satisfied with my posts, so the statements in the trust entries are absolutely not correct.

Since it was also mentioned that I break the rules: I have never made a statement that I want to break the rules. I have stated that I am not interested in the rules witch are set up by 1miau, he can keep his opinion to himself, there are forum rules that I abide by and our moderator will inform me if I should break the rules, where of course I would correct myself.

Now that I ignored him and he wrote more trust entries about me and I still ignored him, he started attacking and insulting other colleagues even harder: They are not human and would support murderers etc. the colleagues are welcomed to comment on it. He's currently on the ignore list of at least 6 persons I know, which is a lot for a local board! He has even attacked our moderator Mole0815 several times, accusing him of not following the rules because he doesn't censor our opinions. Our moderator has already warned him several times and because his attacks are not stopped, he sees himself forced to ban some topics in the off-topic area in order to at least create a small harmony.

Then I was also accused of falsifying trust entries because I had given MinoRaiola a positive trust after he had also written me one. I don't see what's wrong with that as I didn't write my trust entry as a consideration but to show his help and support (for years) as a trust which I hadn't done before.

In the German area, many accounts are insulted from 1miau every day. Recently he has started using Nazi statements "Russenschweine" so he calls all Russians pigs. All of us are absolutely not in favor of the war in Ukraine, however, there are disagreements about the causes and consequences of the war and this is absolutely normal, but he cannot accept other opinions and attacks everyone who has opposing opinions. You can't have a factual and polite discussion with him.



Now I also ask you something, just because someone makes useful posts in the forum, does that legitimize the person to insult and lying about others?

I also only read positive things about 1miau before Corona, but since there have been discussions in the off-topic area, it has changed completely. He is constantly attacking our members and our moderator will definitely write something about this. 1miau will try to manipulate you with lies and untruths, so please let the other side comment first before you judge.

For your information only, our moderator is currently on vacation and will definitely get back to you in the next few days.



To sum it all up, I didn't threaten Kamix with anything and this thread is just there to attack me in the process.

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I feel now that the German are divided into two sides. It's time for Russia to take the advantage and attack Germany 😂

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Why should we be friends? I celebrated a friendly get-together today with +20 people in a rented barbecue area. For me, friendship is something different, but everyone has their own opinion.
All of us know your "be nice to us (shitposters)" already. We will bring up again posts advocating to increase posting quality, doesn't matter that you don't like it.
As I said in the other thread:

According to them, a harmonious community is a community where shitposting is tolerated or encouraged.
According to MinoRaiola and Unknown01 "a harmonious community" is a community where shitposting is tolerated or encouraged.
Such a mindset is destrying the forum from within.

Keep in mind: your low quality posts, spam- and troll posts are not beneficial for the forum.
Your paid campaign won't advertise on Bitcointalk, when there are only shitposters.
Unfortunately, you were mentioned in igehh's latest list for Gambling shitpostingsCheesy Cheesy

He's completely right there.



1miau is also for me the main problem and source of mobbing in the German Local.
LOL
"Mobbing" low quality spammers.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

There's much more "mobbing" going on: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny



Many Users are attacked by him and they use the ignore function.
Half a dozen trolls is not "many users".
And yes, I will continue to push for a better posting quality and call out your abuses.
What do you say about your inappropriate use of positive trust?

Nothing of course, because you will lose your DT2 position quickly!



To sum it all up, I didn't threaten Kamix with anything and this thread is just there to attack me in the process.
Your words are archived already, multiples times.
You really don't know that the forum has multiple tools to save your initially posted content?
Ever heard about Ninjastic.space or Loyce.club?
It's not useful to harass Newbies without reasons!

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June 26, 2022, 08:32:09 PM
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I feel now that the German are divided into two sides. It's time for Russia to take the advantage and attack Germany 😂
If we can get more players together, then we can play a football match. I like to play defence ;-)

After his 1st trust entry there was sharp criticism from almost all members of the German board because the content would not correspond to the truth and his actions would be wrong. To name just a few members who have written reviews who might also want to write their impressions: Lakai01, mole0815, MinoRaiola, ... Read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5392188.0
I remember the time and the messages. It is well described here and many users have write their opinion.

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Frankly speaking, ya all need a break! Seriously, I mean it 😘


But unfortunately the attacks don't stop even if you ignore them (an attempt to end the conflict).. We're all tired of being attacked by shady accounts all the time so I hope things can be sorted out here  Grin

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I'm glad that the thread was opened, now we can finally put all the facts on the table and hopefully this will also calm down the situation on our German board.
The solution would be very easy: get sane and stop you Bullshit.
For the sake of everyone.

Now, you are going to attack newbies only because Kamix dared to debunk your braindead trollpost?
Seriously?  Cheesy


Our German board is basically very familiar, we hardly have anyone there who writes really pointless things, you can also ask our moderator about this on the German board. We have been helping each other for years and newcomers are very welcome! The text is now a little longer, but I have to describe everything in detail that has happened so far and my statements can be confirmed afterwards by various old members from our board, including our moderator mole0815, who will also confirm my statements. I would even be willing to make these statements under oath.
You (mistakenly) showed us your lack of knowledge about forum rules and DT standards already multiple times.

You don't know how DT works, what it's about and how it's used in an appropriate way.
I don't need to talk much here, see: Dangerous and inappropriate use of Trust: giving positive Trust for Shitposters

You used Trust to bolster your own rating, to bolster MinoRaiola's rating, your shitposter friend.
Had nothing to do with trust, should be neutral!
Imagine a word, where everyone gives out a positive trust to befriended accounts. It would be insane!
It’s encouraging spam and scam.
Every shitposter would start to increase their trust-score by farming trust with each other.

Your lack of DT standards related knowledge is embarassing, same linke MinoRaiola.

The German loacl board is not a shitposter enabling zone!
And it's not gonna be a shitposter enabling zone, Not today, not tomorrow, never!


Regarding this thread about Kamix: I haven't threatened him with a ban or a reputation thread.
You have severely defamed Kamix and threatened him to report him to theymos.
It's archived.


We have close contact among old members on the German board and the suspicion that these accounts are related has existed in our community for a long time. In principle, multi-accounts are not forbidden either, but if they are used to exchange merits or are used in campaigns such as Chipmixer to write posts (by leading monologues under 2 separate accounts from one person), those would definitely be points here are not wanted, right?
So, you are openly saying, that Nestade, an account from 2013 is my Alt?
LOL, you are getting delusional.
Just because you dislike our engagement against abusers like you?

We have much more support but it's getting tiresome to debunk your bullshit.
You are just here to use Bitcointalk for your own agenda, get paid some lousy sats for shitposting and that's it.
Of course you dislike us because we are not going to enable your sigspam zone.




Since it was also mentioned that I break the rules: I have never made a statement that I want to break the rules. I have stated that I am not interested in the rules witch are set up by 1miau, he can keep his opinion to himself, there are forum rules that I abide by and our moderator will inform me if I should break the rules, where of course I would correct myself.
Not true!
Everything is available what you've said!

The most ridicuous thing was, when you are reminded that pyramid quoting is against the rules and not beneficial for the forum.
You insisted on it!

See bullrun2020bro's
[META] Pyramiden-Quotes im deutschsprachigen Board




To sum it all up, I didn't threaten Kamix with anything and this thread is just there to attack me in the process.
Your lies are tiresome, everyone can see it that you are wrong.

One more ridiculous point: your insults are completely unfouded! 6 spammers from our local board are not "the german board"!  Cheesy
But they are spamming the German board and throwing their insults at everyone who's calling out their misbehaviour. They are always starting the trouble and they are masively butthurt, when they are called out. Also with defamations because they don't like to be called out.
They like to derail civil discussion. It's always them.
Some are just here for paid posting, some are here because they have too much free time.



The fact, that you are not backing down from your abuses will make your account completely distrusted from DT and in case you keep your insults going against establised accounts and contributors like Nestade, bullrun2020bro, me and several newbies going, you'll be called out again for your abuses and your defamations.
You are spamming the forum every day and spreading lies and insults, when you are called out. We don't need childish, disgusting trolls.

Hereby, I call you a "proud shitposter" because you are proud of producing low quality spam.
You are, together with MinoRaiola, a proud misuser of positive trust to bolster your trust score to get more easily into singnature campaigns.

Now, you are attacking established accounts for pointing out how bad your behaviour is for Bitcointalk.

You should be nowhere near DT, you should be removed from future singature campaings because that's why you are here.
Not for contributions.

But go ahead and keep digging your own hole!  Wink

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June 26, 2022, 09:42:07 PM
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But unfortunately the attacks don't stop even if you ignore them (an attempt to end the conflict).. We're all tired of being attacked by shady accounts all the time so I hope things can be sorted out here  Grin
That is not the topic of this thread, but have you actually considered that these users are criticizing you based on your statements and that you don't have to be related with 1miau in order to realize, that many of your statements are very questionable?
The topic is you attacking Kamix and in 1miau's thread the topic is the inappropriate use of trust (which you are also involved in) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404167.0

As already said, I didn't attack him in any way and anyone who speaks German can see that too. Even if you use the translator you can see that I didn't threaten anyone. So don't try to distract from the real problem with "1miau". In the next few days some more of our board will definitely comment on the problems and these will not be newbie accounts, they´ll be long-standing legendarys. I'm already looking forward to the feedback from mole0815 (moderator of german board), so that our English community can also see who is actually causing the problem.

My statement to Kamix in german was: "Irgendwie vermehren sich diese Newbie Accounts die aggressiv und beleidigend sind wie Parasiten im deutschen Bereich, sollte man eventuell mal tatsächlich theymos melden. Ich habe bereits eine Liste von allen verdächtigen Accounts - mache ich demnächst mal wirklich."

In english: Somehow the newbie accounts increase which are aggressive and abusive like a virus in the German area, I should actually report this acounts theymos. I already have a list of all suspicious accounts - I'll actually do that soon.

And whether theymos is interested or not isn't your decision, because you said before that it wasn't in his interest if I sent him a list.


1miau thinks it's funny that I know 6 accounts (all are longer than him registered in the forum) that have him on ignore. If I know 6 accounts, how many will there be that I don't know about? In the same breath, he proudly presents 2 accounts that are on his side (bullrun and Nestade). Funnily enough, at least 3 people have already reported here to defend me (all longer than 1miau in the forum and with a high rank). In the coming days, others will certainly have their say, let's just let the German community testify, if the majority defends me, then it's clear who's right and who's wrong, isn't it? But for 1miau, the majority of the German community are Shitposter anyway.

@1miau this is the first time I've writing to you since a long time: you are so sure that you are right, so here is my offer to you: I will put down my signature if more than 50% of the German established community (at least 10 merits in the last 3 months from 5 different people and at least senior member rank) support your view that your trust entry was justified and I'm a shitposter, but if more than 50% don't agree, then you put your signature down! Deal?

It seems to be a very fair deal and like in a democracy the majority decides, you're for democracy right?  Smiley

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But unfortunately the attacks don't stop even if you ignore them (an attempt to end the conflict).. We're all tired of being attacked by shady accounts all the time so I hope things can be sorted out here  Grin
That is not the topic of this thread, but have you actually considered that these users are criticizing you based on your statements and that you don't have to be related with 1miau in order to realize, that many of your statements are very questionable?
The topic is you attacking Kamix and in 1miau's thread the topic is the inappropriate use of trust (which you are also involved in) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404167.0

As already said, I didn't attack him in any way and anyone who speaks German can see that too. Even if you use the translator you can see that I didn't threaten anyone. So don't try to distract from the real problem with "1miau". In the next few days some more of our board will definitely comment on the problems and these will not be newbie accounts, they´ll be long-standing legendarys. I'm already looking forward to the feedback from mole0815 (moderator of german board), so that our English community can also see who is actually causing the problem.
Are you posting on a different forum?
You attacked me out of nowhere in our Signature campaign thread, when I wrote, that the posting quality should always be high, not only when you want to apply for a good campaign.



In english: Somehow the newbie accounts increase which are aggressive and abusive like a virus in the German area, I should actually report this acounts theymos. I already have a list of all suspicious accounts - I'll actually do that soon.
Calling Kamix "aggressive and abusive like a virus" is appropriate?  Cheesy
Surely not!
And you forgot your other insults against Kamix!

You half-strong internet troll, calm down and learn manners and decency before you insult others. Hide in real life and insult on the internet - that's all I have to say about your lies & insults.
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6044/60448857.html



1miau thinks it's funny that I know 6 accounts (all are longer than him registered in the forum) that have him on ignore. If I know 6 accounts, how many will there be that I don't know about?
Idiots like Poly#Crypto posting such russian propaganda?


Archived
And there's more of it...
Of course will will comment on it and call you war Kremlin trolls.

That's BADecker, Tash and be.open crap.  Cheesy


Yeah, it's completely understandable that pro-russian propaganda trolls like Poly#Crypto are on your side @Unknown01!

It's a shame that they are on your side.
Well, I'm not surprised..



@1miau this is the first time I've writing to you since a long time: you are so sure that you are right, so here is my offer to you: I will put down my signature if more than 50% of the German established community (at least 10 merits in the last 3 months from 5 different people and at least senior member rank) support your view that your trust entry was justified and I'm a shitposter, but if more than 50% don't agree, then you put your signature down! Deal?
I'm going to agree to that deal but you are the one saying, "the german board" is supporting your wrongdoings, so you need to show 50% of that board supporting you as a shitposter.  Cheesy
Will be funny.
And in addition, you should change your positive trust on MinoRaiola's account to neutral.

Do you agree?



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@1miau: I'm just responding to the topic with my offer because I don't have time at the moment: I'll open a thread on the German board and we'll let it run for 1-2 months, everyone who is entitled can then cast their vote there and we'll count the votes after the runtime. The loser will not participate in any campaign for at least 6 months or until the other agrees. If you agree I'll get to work tomorrow or tuesday, there are no insults, no discussions there is only voting and no one is going to try to change the opionion of others with any claims, I think most of our community have heard everything?

We can then agree on the exact agreements/contract details afterwards, but the trust is not part of this (it's just that I'm a shitposter in your opinion and Mino is definitely not).

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@1miau: I'm just responding to the topic with my offer because I don't have time at the moment: I'll open a thread on the German board and we'll let it run for 1-2 months, everyone who is entitled can then cast their vote there and we'll count the votes after the runtime. The loser will not participate in any campaign for at least 6 months or until the other agrees. If you agree I'll get to work tomorrow or tuesday, there are no insults, no discussions there is only voting and no one is going to try to change the opionion of others with any claims, I think most of our community have heard everything?

We can then agree on the exact agreements/contract details afterwards, but the trust is not part of this (it's just that I'm a shitposter in your opinion and Mino is definitely not).
Should be posted it here or in Meta, easy as that.
And a neutral, trusted user will set it up.

Make 50 Merit earned threshold, last 120 days to weed out shitposters and alt accounts.  Wink
Merit count up to today, last 120 days.
You know about the tools.
And the bet is: removing signature forever.

Your fraudulent positive Trust is out of the bet (but should be removed anyways as it's dangerous and inappropriate use of positive).

Are you in?


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I didn't think my post would make such waves. But this thread perhaps shows all too well how the German-speaking board is doing. First of all, I would like to thank you for all the responses and respond to a few points:

- I am obviously not a fake account, regardless of what Unknown01 and his friends claim in order to damage my reputation. It feels a bit like I've hit a sore spot and he doesn't know how to help himself other than to attack with such false accusations.

I am glad that I will probably not be banned for my opinion and therefore I would like to continue expressing it.



Spam should de reported and removed at sight.
I've seen the threatening of newbies. Afaik it's not in the forum rules, it may be punishable offense. But we need mods' input in this. Cyrus is mod in Reputation, maybe he can help?
Trolling is punishable offense. But trolling may be a bit vague. Still, it's best we can do.

I think for the German-speaking board the moderator mole0815 is responsible, but here could be the real problem. If we go back to the facts, the following things stand out to me:

- We have the user Unknown01 who threatens other users and cheats his way to positive feedbacks using the DT function of the forum and his friends
- We have old accounts that suddenly wake up and try to improve their DT position in the forum via trust farming. These accounts only post in certain boards and posting Russian propaganda
- The accounts seem to possibly belong together, as they all post similar views and back each other up (trusts, positive feedbacks)
- The users seem to know each other in real life and almost all of them are from Austria (you can read that in a thread where they plan to have a meeting together in Austria). The moderator mole0815 is also from Austria.
- All accounts seem to be in a common telegram group and coordinate their steps with each other there, including the board moderator mole0815.

And this is where it gets interesting in terms of moderation of the German language board. Why is the user Unknown01 bragging about having to discuss my punishment with the German board moderator mole0815 and the other colleagues in a private telegram group? Here is the screenshot of a post Unknown01 wrote today.



It basically says: "@Mole: Sorry for off topic, but we can discuss it personally in our group with the other colleagues."

What is interesting is that this post was edited after a few minutes (cutting the part with the private discussion with the moderator mole0515) and even deleted a short time later. Why was it edited and deleted? Clearing up any evidence? Who deleted it? Unknown01 or the moderator mole0815?

If I understand correctly, the moderator of the German language board is in a Telegram group with his friends. Of course, this is not a problem in itself. But a moderator is supposed to ensure a neutral and fair moderation, isn't he?

Now it is no wonder that Unknown01 is so aggressive towards other accounts when he knows that he has no danger to fear from his friend and moderator mole0815. Furthermore, Unknown01 has already posted here in the thread several times that the moderator mole0815 will speak up here in the thread and fully support him.

It all seems very strange to me. What has happened to the Bitcointalk forum when moderation is no longer fair and neutral and aggressive users who abuse the trust system can suppress other accounts through moderation. It can not be that aggressive users who abuse the trust system and threaten other users with a ban also receive support from the official moderator of the forum?

Are there other moderators besides mole0815 who are responsible for the German-speaking board? Or can he rule all by himself? If there are not, that's pretty fucked up.
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Haha… okaay i‘m agressive and 1miau pretty much excludes 90% of the community from Sr. Member rank in my offer. so in the German board there are only maybe 10-15 persons who are not shitposters this is sad for us.. As I told you, my conditions are fair and most will agree that 10 merits from 5 people and Sr. member rank will be sufficient to qualify.

I'm busy right now and can't go into detail about the lies, but I'll make up for it in the next few days. I think it's best that a newbie account appears out of nowhere and is perfectly informed about all past events and even attacks mole... spectacular!

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June 27, 2022, 01:09:18 AM
Last edit: June 27, 2022, 01:36:30 AM by 1miau
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And this is where it gets interesting in terms of moderation of the German language board. Why is the user Unknown01 bragging about having to discuss my punishment with the German board moderator mole0815 and the other colleagues in a private telegram group? Here is the screenshot of a post Unknown01 wrote today.



It basically says: "@Mole: Sorry for off topic, but we can discuss it personally in our group with the other colleagues."
Nice catch, looks like Unknown01 is trying to influence the German moderator mole0815 in a private Telegram group, since both are from Austria. That's shady as shit from Unknown01 but wouldn't surprise me.
He's going full long con here.
Unknown01 has caused trouble since a very long time and his biggest issue is his inability to admit his mistakes like Shitposting and Trust farming.

I'm sorry that he threatened you and I can assure you that's not how the German community (and Bitcointalk) is in general.
Most members are very helpful, very friendly and welcoming.
Unknown01 and Poly#Crypto are not the German community and especially not Bitcointalk as a whole.

You are very welcome here and we appreciate your comments in the German section, where you always provide valuable insights so far.
Please don't get discouraged by a few trolls, it's always taking some time to weed out the bad eggs.  Smiley




Haha… okaay i‘m agressive and 1miau pretty much excludes 90% of the community from Sr. Member rank in my offer. so in the German board there are only maybe 10-15 persons who are not shitposters this is sad for us.. As I told you, my conditions are fair and most will agree that 10 merits from 5 people and Sr. member rank will be sufficient to qualify.

That your shitposter friends can get in?
Sure, that's how you would like it.  Cheesy
Maybe let's ask the altcoin spammers about their opinion of the Merit system and if it should be removed!  Roll Eyes

So, nice try, but no, only quality posters are qualified!



I'm busy right now and can't go into detail about the lies, but I'll make up for it in the next few days. I think it's best that a newbie account appears out of nowhere and is perfectly informed about all past events and even attacks mole... spectacular!

There are quite a few people completely fed up with your bullshit and your abuse...
And Kamix is active since 2020.
@Unknown01, your most recent excessive bullshit campaign started in Fall 2021...
But keep attacking newbies, it seems to be your agenda to scare good posters away, that you can create your shitposts without any backlash...


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June 27, 2022, 01:58:21 AM
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My opinion for colleagues here:
All the people present here are my witnesses that I offered a fair deal and wanted to let the German community decide. All up from senior member rank with minimum 10 earned merits from 5 different people in the last 3 months (actually I meant the last 120 days) would have been entitled to vote, but 1miau decides independently who is a Shitposter on the German board and who is not, and it mainly depends on who represents his opinion and who represents an opposing opinion. He knows that he doesn't have a chance and therefore doesn't get involved in a democratic vote and counters again with his standard statement: All Shitposter. So let's make it clear: All members on the German board are for 1miau from the rank of senior (or higher) with <50 merits are shitposters. Does the English community really see it that way? My proposed solution was simple and, in my opinion, fair and difficult to manipulate.

I offered this deal even though 1miau distributes the most merits in the German area alongside qwk and therefore has very high decision-making powers as to who receives merits and who does not. Do I have to show more to prove he's lying?

I guarantee you that the majority of the German community doesn't share 1miau's view and that's why he calls them all shitposters. It's not just me and Poly, thandie and MinoRaiola have already spoken up in this thread alone and as I said, more colleagues will get in touch.
The group only meant our chat function in the forum and I don't know any of the colleagues from the German area personally from real life. Of course, attempts are again made to distract or manipulate by means of lies.

Just in the last few days, the following users were for 1miau Shitposter (because they have a different opinion): Unknown01 (me), thandie, MinoRaiola, s0nix, Poly#Crypto, Beobachter_90, Koal-84. So 7 persons from the German area who were all against his opinion have been called shitposters and only in the last few days, is that normal for you? Do you also call all those who don't represent your opinion shitposters? Do I have a wrong picture of our society and freedom of expression? Especially in a Bitcoin forum, freedom of expression should be valued very highly, whereby we don't insult others but 1miau and nestade constantly insult us with nasty swear words. They play down Nazis and insult all Russians (all russians are pigs and nazis and killers and so on..), although I am sure that a large part of Russians are against the war like we are!

1miau constantly claims that there are many people who are fed up with me but he doesn't want to get involved in a deal like the one described above, although he thinks I'm posting to get btc, which is also a false claim. As I said, I have already written posts from time to time without a signature and that I meet the minimum requirements and seeing this in the spreadsheet is also a lie, if you want to know more about it, you should look at the sheet and see immediately based on the last 10 weeks that I wrote an average of 24.3 posts per week and required were an average of 19 since the requirements have been lowered.

I don't quote or answer him because he's on ignore my ignore-list and will remain there



It basically says: "@Mole: Sorry for off topic, but we can discuss it personally in our group with the other colleagues."

I think it's best that a newbie account appears out of nowhere and is perfectly informed about all past events
I'm sure, that there are many people reading quietly. Some decide to create an account at some point. Stop your agitation against newbies.


If you're going to quote, then do it correctly, without attempting to manipulate it, because the way you quote my statement puts it in a completely different light!
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I'm busy right now and can't go into detail about the lies, but I'll make up for it in the next few days. I think it's best that a newbie account appears out of nowhere and is perfectly informed about all past events and even attacks mole... spectacular!

So in your opinion, an inactive account can appear out of nowhere with a newbie status and call other accounts swear words, tell them to move to Russia to eat Putin's ass and then make the worst accusations at the moderator? In my opinion definitely not, we haven't been on the forum for years to be insulted or defamed by any new trolling accounts.

But we all know that you don't think insults are bad, so it's understandable that you accept or even support the fact that a new account simply insults long-established members and attacks the moderator.


As I said, other colleagues from the German area will definitely be in touch in the coming days and then the colleagues from the English area will also see what kind of people 1miau and Nestade really are. It's not great to be insulted every day even though you actually ignore your counterpart now, I'm sick of being attacked by this trolls and liars!

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June 27, 2022, 03:47:19 AM
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The only problem is @1miau himself with his authoritarian tendency.

Exactly.
All we want in the german-speaking section is a fair and objective debate.
But this is not possible because @1miau provokes and trolls again and again.
He quite deliberately wants to destroy any discussion.
He has a pretty stupid way to spit at the members in order to produce reports.

He has no manners
He has a bad upbringing
He has no respect for others
He does not follow any rule (double post, triple post, shitpost, off topic spam)

Some established users have already left the forum due to his mobbing.
His trolling is absolutely not acceptable.
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June 27, 2022, 04:09:28 AM
Last edit: June 27, 2022, 07:06:27 AM by yahoo62278
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Ignore button works, you all should use it. I know I read someone say they cannot ignore because some of the posts from whomever need a response, but that's not true. Just ignore and go on with life. Start reporting posts if you feel they're attacks or threats.

Other option is to pull out your dicks and do the measurement!!!!

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