On the other hand, there is a growing group of users on the German board who don't really add value to a discussion. Meaningless one-liners are posted, previous posts are not read, unreadable pyramid quotes are posted and the actually important information gets lost among all the crap. Unfortunately, this has a lot to do with the signature campaigns, which have led to some users (unfortunately) seeing Bitcointalk exclusively as a simple source of money, where you log in for a few minutes a week to quickly get $100.
Lol, I've been in this forum since 2017 and I've been in a signature campaign that's paid in BTC for almost a year? According to your statement, I should have been inactive before 2021 -> please just look at my statistics and see for yourself.
The community feeling mentioned here has been completely lost as a result. When Unknown01 talks about it, he does not mean the Bitcointalk community as such, but the users who represent his opinion. I have argued with the user several times in the past because I asked him to at least refrain from the extremly annonying pyramid quotes and the low value answers. Unfortunately, a discussion with the user is impossible. He is not interested in the forum, the community or Bitcoin as such. It is mainly about the quick cash that you can make here for very very (!) little effort.
I'm talking about the majority of the German community while 1miau is talking about you, himself and Nestade so I don't know if you believe what you are writing? Is there another long-standing member from the German area who shares your point of view?
This is no criticism of the bounty managers, but if they would speak German, the German board would have to be excluded from every campaign IMHO. That's how bad the quality is now and of course Unknown01 is not solely responsible for that. There are many users who have become very comfortable over the years. However, because this issue has been swept under the table for so long, nothing has changed yet.
Oh yes, that is very much a criticism of the BM. You accuse them of paying for shitposts, so Hhampuz, icopress, yahoo or darkstar aren't intelligent and competent enough to judge if the german section is shitposting but you are? Good to know what you think about our valued BM.Horror only for those who couldn't deal with the opinions of others. And horror for our moderator because he constantly had to edit incorrect reports.
The only thing it does is that German speaking users who discover Bitcointalk find a board where endless, irrelevant discussions take place. Insults are spoken and conspiracy theories are spread. A real shame for the German speaking Bitcoin community. A stronger intervention should have been made much earlier, as I have long demanded. What made matters worse, however, is that the political discussions were not limited to the single Corona thread. The entire German forum has increasingly become a place for pointless political discussions.
We all didn't get any benefit from the posts in the off-topic area, do you know whose posts are handsomely rewarded in his campaign? Exactly: 1miau
Some users turned into true keyboard warriors when it came to representing political points of view. However, still posted low value when it came to Bitcoin or crypto-related topics. I am always surprised why so much time is spent on such pointless discussions, when one could also spend that time on Bitcoin.
Everyone is allowed to spend their time on what they want? Hhampuz doesn't count off-topic posts and yet I've been in this area quite often and enjoyed writing posts. That should also be proof enough that I'm not in favor of the bounty in the forum?
From my point of view, however, it becomes problematic if these accounts now try to climb up DT via manipulation and pointless feedbacks. As a community, we should be concerned that such accounts have no chance to influence the DT ranking.
Now we're increasing levels, now almost all Germans are evil
Unfortunately, our moderator @mole0815 made the mistake of announcing several times that things could not go on like this and that consequences would follow. What were the consequences? None. I am glad that the threads are closed now.
If so, there should have been consequences for trolling by 1miau and nestade and you definitely don´t want that
In this context, I find it highly explosive that the user @Unknown01 now posts here that he is in a telegram group with the moderator of the board and thus tries to influence the moderation. However, the moderator denies this statement. Who is lying now? I rather trust @mole0815, but what I don't understand is that you @mole0815 doesn't distance yourself from Unknown01's statements. I mean, he's speaking for you, there are screenshots. Why are you allowing this to happen?
Whaaaat, man, I haven't used telegram for years now
Why are you lying like the others now? How often do I have to explain it, the internal chat function in the forum was meant. But yes, invent more lies: maybe we're all sitting around a campfire and drinking beer and already making the next evil plans
It is not surprising that it leaves a bad impression on many users if there is no clear cut-off here. Users may have the impression that there might be something to the accusations. Especially if you observe the self-confident appearance of @Unknown01 here on Bitcointalk.
If you don't do anything illegal, you don't need to be intimidated by anyone. Sure I'm appearing confident here, I know I'm telling the truth and it's been confirmed by many, but feel free to ignore it.
IMHO, only if you as a moderator create clear fronts and clearly distinguish yourself from both parties, you can get the problem on the German board under control.
Mole does a great job and doesn't try to push the conflicts any further. In the international section, trolls like 1miau or nestade would have been distrusted long ago for the behavior they show. Mole has been trying to end the conflicts neutrally for months, has asked everyone to use the ignore function several times, but 1miau and Nestade ignore this bravios.
Finally, I can only recommend to mark such accounts with a ~, as I did months ago. This creates certainty that such accounts are not in DT. For everything else, the ignore function is the right option - as long as - and this is the important point - all users can count on fair moderation. As long as the moderator doesn't get the upper hand, it would be better to close the entire German board right away. But I'm confident that @mole0815 can solve the problem, if he takes the right action.
I now take your tip to heart and put you on Distrust and recommend anyone who stands for decency, justice and fairness to distrust these trolls. As if it wasn't enough that they constantly attacked our members and now also called the entire German board shitposter, our moderator, who has always maintained neutrality, is also attacked. But the good thing is, now that the colleagues here can see how you actually tick.
~1miau
~bullrun2020bro
~Nestade
I've wasted enough time here, it's time to live more in real life instead of debunking the lies and accusations of trolls here.
