Reasons why people avoid KYC in gambling casino ?

[Ryker1]

KYC is useless unless it is the type of KYC that requires you to take a live selfie after you submitted your I.D. But most of the KYC that I've seen doesn't require a selfie to verify that the I.D you've submitted is really you, not your parents I.D or someone's I.D. For me, I don't really trust this process because you're at a disadvantage if you submitted a legitimate identification of yours, since you don't know where they are really going to use it.

Well sometimes I don't care about the KYC as long as it will not require a selfie ID, perhaps email address and phone number verification are enough as a requirement in KYC. The reason why gamblers avoid KYC is that they want this privacy, they afraid to expose their name could perhaps someday the site will leak and turn into a hack which is your identity documents possible is in the hands of scammers.
We cannot blame them if they avoid KYC gambling casinos because that is what they preferred.

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[Kelvinid]

KYC is useless unless it is the type of KYC that requires you to take a live selfie after you submitted your I.D. But most of the KYC that I've seen doesn't require a selfie to verify that the I.D you've submitted is really you, not your parents I.D or someone's I.D. For me, I don't really trust this process because you're at a disadvantage if you submitted a legitimate identification of yours, since you don't know where they are really going to use it.

That is still the same - they are collecting your ID/selfie in order to get verified which I really hate doing this. However, we do understand their stands as well as why they are asking those things aside from our basic information upon registration to combat abusers. Sadly, most of the casinos right now are asking for this, even known and trusted sites, I think we found no excuse as they will ask for it at the moment we use their platform.

[Boristhecat]

Firstly, all the reasons you listed are reasonable and someone is guided by them. Secondly, I would say that people try to avoid KYC not only in casinos but in general everywhere if possible. I can understand the need for KYC in banks or government agencies, but I do not understand why I need to take KYC for any service. Ideally, mail or phone is sufficient for identification.

That's how the government work, most businesses that involve services on money are required a KYC. They always use the words "anti-money laundering" in order to require us to undergo a KYC, or else they will charge us for a violation and our account could be lock.

The funny thing is that the anti-laundering legislation of the state is applied to those services that use only cryptocurrencies, even if state do not consider cryptocurrencies as money by the law. In my opinion, this is rather hypocritical. However, like other invasions of privacy that are made ostensibly to protect against terrorism/the fight against pedophiles, etc.

[Wind_FURY]

I think that people avoid KYC in gambling casino just because they want to stay anonymous and doesn't want to let someone know that they gamble. Other reason could figure something like money laundering, or play with money earned with criminal methods. That's why is really important for a casino ask for a KYC, in this way they will protect they self from bad situation.

Or another reason could be laziness/procastination, or they probably don't trust the site. I remember the first time I was asked to KYC by an exchange, it was a trusted exchange and one of the oldest, but out of lack of trust, and a little laziness I didn't upload the requirements and my coins stayed in the exchange for 6 weeks. There's something about KYC that makes me feel nervous, and anxious.

I'm okay with exchanges as they are regulated, but on gambling sites, I think it's not safe to comply with the KYC if they will require it. Actually, it's not hard to find a trusted casinos or gambling sites, but on exchanges, there are only few who are trusted and I believe all of them requires a KYC, so we have no option.

But ser, even the big, "trusted" exchanges, and other Bitcoin companies are not truly safe with your data too. Ledger was hacked, and all I.D. and emails were stolen, assumed to be sold in the dark markets. Coinbase, were also reproted to have sold geo-location data to the U.S. government. Laziness and procrastination might save some of our fellow users. Hahaha.

[Issa56]

I don't think I have to reveal my identity just because I want to gamble, most of those gambling sites can't be trusted, anything can happen to you identity and I believe that's my privacy, some gambling site can be hacked which scammers will use my identity to defraud someone or other illegal things which at the end people might think am the one and also the gambling site can be trusted because they can sell out your identity. Not only gambling site alone  any website or crypto exchange that require kyc am not always in support of it.

[Mauser]

It's been observed that gamblers prefer to play on casino which do not enforce KYC. Well, let's discuss what are the main reasons that they do not want to show their identity and gamble anonymously.

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers,  gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

For me the biggest fear of providing my documents online is identify theft. If the wrong people are getting access to my personal documents they could use them for illegal activities and even hurt me directly. Once someone has our full address, copy of ID and bank account details he can do a lot of things with. Requesting a new credit card or online banking access which than will be stolen out of our post box cod ruin your whole life. Once the scanners have access to the bank account they will clear it out completely, and even if you manage to get your money back with the help of the bank there can still be permanent damage. One issue could be that the credit rating is getting affected negatively. That's why I am really cautious when it comes to KYC at very new casino. If it's an older casino who has been around for several years and has a good reputation I am not so worried. They usually have a security to prevent misuses of personal information. I also understand that casinos need that to protect itself against money laundering.

[dezoel]

Yes, many gamblers want this but to some, they can just play no matter what type of casino it was (kyc or non kyc based) as there are more other important things for them than the kyc.

I think that the reason why there are players that dislikes doing a kyc is that they think their kyc will be sold and misused by the casino or their representatives and maybe there's a tiny percent that refrain of doing a kyc because they are scared for anyone to know that they are gambling. Who, knows maybe some of their relatives or family members are working on that particular casino? But, if they are on a restricted country, a casino will usually restrict them right at the start.

[wheelz1200]

It's been observed that gamblers prefer to play on casino which do not enforce KYC. Well, let's discuss what are the main reasons that they do not want to show their identity and gamble anonymously.

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers,  gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

Most of the time it probably has to do with 1 of 3 things:

1) not wanting to give out your personal information to an unknown.
2) to avoid paying taxes
3) because gambling is illegal in you area

These are probably the main three things that cover 90% of the reasons why.

[coin-investor]

It's been observed that gamblers prefer to play on casino which do not enforce KYC. Well, let's discuss what are the main reasons that they do not want to show their identity and gamble anonymously.

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers,  gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

Most of the time it probably has to do with 1 of 3 things:

1) not wanting to give out your personal information to an unknown.
2) to avoid paying taxes
3) because gambling is illegal in you area

These are probably the main three things that cover 90% of the reasons why.

The first one is the main consideration majority of the casinos are anonymous we don't know the company running the project and of course, as human beings, we do not surrender what we value to people we do not know because it can cost us trouble in the future, this is the internet and there are so many hackers and information sellers and thinking that you have your information floating in the internet or at the hands of people you don't know is a big cause of concern

[seoincorporation]

Personally, I avoid KYC because I have no idea how they store that data, and if it gets compromised I will not feel comfortable knowing the hackers have all my personal data.

For me all this KYC situation looks like an excuse to avoid paying the customers. It's sad but that's how they use the KYC nowadays

[Maslate]

KYC is useless unless it is the type of KYC that requires you to take a live selfie after you submitted your I.D. But most of the KYC that I've seen doesn't require a selfie to verify that the I.D you've submitted is really you, not your parents I.D or someone's I.D. For me, I don't really trust this process because you're at a disadvantage if you submitted a legitimate identification of yours, since you don't know where they are really going to use it.

That is still the same - they are collecting your ID/selfie in order to get verified which I really hate doing this. However, we do understand their stands as well as why they are asking those things aside from our basic information upon registration to combat abusers. Sadly, most of the casinos right now are asking for this, even known and trusted sites, I think we found no excuse as they will ask for it at the moment we use their platform.

Even if we stand against it, we don't have that much choice because the majority of these trusted casinos are also asking KYC these days and I think it's best to submit what is needed if we still want to play on their platform but if we won't give and support what they want then I guess finding another casino will be our only option. Nevertheless, there's still always a risk of getting our information leaked if someday their platform will be hacked.

[0verseer]

Personally, I avoid KYC because I have no idea how they store that data, and if it gets compromised I will not feel comfortable knowing the hackers have all my personal data.

For me all this KYC situation looks like an excuse to avoid paying the customers. It's sad but that's how they use the KYC nowadays

On one hand, I can understand the reason why they ask for your KYC that seems coincident only after you won a big bet: to make sure you're a legitimate player (countries that banned gambling suck!) and to keep tabs on the tax and stuff. But on the other hand, yeah it sucks to provide your KYC to gambling casinos. That lingering fear that you don't know if one day, some 'hack' or they might sell your personal data to someone else.

[AmoreJaz]

Personally, I avoid KYC because I have no idea how they store that data, and if it gets compromised I will not feel comfortable knowing the hackers have all my personal data.

For me all this KYC situation looks like an excuse to avoid paying the customers. It's sad but that's how they use the KYC nowadays

On one hand, I can understand the reason why they ask for your KYC that seems coincident only after you won a big bet: to make sure you're a legitimate player (countries that banned gambling suck!) and to keep tabs on the tax and stuff. But on the other hand, yeah it sucks to provide your KYC to gambling casinos. That lingering fear that you don't know if one day, some 'hack' or they might sell your personal data to someone else.

so as much as possible, submit kyc only if you think it is necessary. a lot of casinos don't ask kyc up until today. just don't break or violate any of their ToS. in case of big winnings, weigh if it is worth risking your kyc if the site asks for it. are they reputable enough to trust your private info? only you can tell how confident you are to a given casino. but much better if you don't need to submit any form of kyc to these gambling sites. if you feel your privacy will be compromised in the future, and you're not up for it. then simply don't give them the vital details.

[Fortify]

It's been observed that gamblers prefer to play on casino which do not enforce KYC. Well, let's discuss what are the main reasons that they do not want to show their identity and gamble anonymously.

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers,  gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

Online casinos are a bit different but I'd say that there are a few major genuine reasons that people want to avoid giving KYC documentation over to crypto casinos. The first is, people often gravitate to crypto because they like the anonymous aspect and there may even be requirements from their employment to declare any sort of gambling activity, this allows them to bypass more stringent checks which you might consider overreach by an employer. The second, possibly biggest issue that some might have is how reliable the security really is with these sorts of organizations. It is possible to do a lot of damage with copies of identity documents and potentially steal vast amounts of money (by faking a loan application or signing up to a phone contract) so handing over such information should be treated in the most sensitive manner.

[coupable]

In my opinion, they are the same reasons that lead users to not accept the terms of identity procedures when they use any other service related to the field of blockchain and crypto in general.
The main fear is that this data may will be used in a way or another by the site that requests verification procedures, or that the site will be hacked, and that data will be stolen and used without the knowledge of the owner.
Personally, I find these reasons sufficient to not comply with these requests and leave the site and avoid using it in the future.

[darkangel11]

I think most of the time it'll be down to the potential documents can be misused or could be stolen if not secured well - if you can do kyc in some places by just confirming your address why can't online casinos do the same.

Exactly! OP missed the point. Identity is a personal thing and you don't go around town waving a card with your name and address on it, right? When you meet someone new, you use your first name and that's all. You don't give them your full name, age and address right away, unless it's a business meeting and you know that sooner or later they'll get to know it anyway.
I don't feel like a random company that isn't sending me any packages or doing any business deals with me has to know my name and address. Who knows what they can do with it?

[sovie]

I think most of the time it'll be down to the potential documents can be misused or could be stolen if not secured well - if you can do kyc in some places by just confirming your address why can't online casinos do the same.

Exactly! OP missed the point. Identity is a personal thing and you don't go around town waving a card with your name and address on it, right? When you meet someone new, you use your first name and that's all. You don't give them your full name, age and address right away, unless it's a business meeting and you know that sooner or later they'll get to know it anyway.
I don't feel like a random company that isn't sending me any packages or doing any business deals with me has to know my name and address. Who knows what they can do with it?

Many players want to hide their identity and they have their own reasons. Staying low key is one of the best practice one can adopt.
And those who don't want to share their KYC -- I think some of the casinos are fine with it too. If there are Casinos policies -- so are people's privacy.

[seleme]

Some users are not comfortable with sharing personal documents on illegal gambling websites without a proper license. Getting license from Curacao is easy for average businessman and gambling platforms can use this info for their own advantage. I personally don't want to see my documents on the sale lists of dark websites. Other players use the crypto gambling platforms from restricted regions thanks to VPN but whenever website aka gambling site management catches them they will not agree to send personal documents for obvious reasons.

[Viscore]

It's been observed that gamblers prefer to play on casino which do not enforce KYC. Well, let's discuss what are the main reasons that they do not want to show their identity and gamble anonymously.

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers,  gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

Regardless if gambling is illegal or legal in a certain country, a gambler will always seek for privacy maybe because being an anonymous gambler will free you from all sorts of negative accusations from other people, and will always give you freedom to gamble here and everywhere. Also, if you are a jackpot winner, that won't make your life the target of all scammers or criminals. This is why a lot really hated this KYC implementation when gambling.

[yourthankyou]

In general, when AI knows too much about you is frustrating. And i wouldn't like to share my info with any site, no matter whether it is casino or online shop.