Reasons why people avoid KYC in gambling casino ?

[johhnyUA]

This got me thinking, I've only had one KYC done on a gambling platform as I am gambling on that website on a regular basis however I haven't checked their licence yet.

Could you please clarify more information on checking a proper casino? Also, Can I know more why having a EU/USA guarantees that the casino will not cheat or sell your data to anyone? Thanks!

It's easy to check if casino has USA/EU license. You can look where this company registered.
At first, UK/USA/EU license not cheap and you need to implement some quality standards to achieve it. And because of price, I doubt that casino will break them, because after that it would get into court and lost money paid for license.

But only few online casinos and betting sites are registered within EU/UK/USA zones.

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[Zilon]

Data privacy and security is the key cause. I think gamblers are getting tired of selling their information for a risky fun adventure and it's becoming obvious by the day that each data we fill while signing up to any KYC based casino gets compromised along the line. So why should i be paying for a service that can't guarantee my privacy when there is a better option that keeps me private, secure and pseudonymous

[Ryker1]

Data privacy and security is the key cause. I think gamblers are getting tired of selling their information for a risky fun adventure and it's becoming obvious by the day that each data we fill while signing up to any KYC based casino gets compromised along the line. So why should i be paying for a service that can't guarantee my privacy when there is a better option that keeps me private, secure and pseudonymous

Well as long as there is a gambling online casino that can protect your privacy, you can still avoid a KYC casino.
But I don't know, there are some people willing even to sell their data documents even for the cost of $20 or lower than that, I have seen this on social media just because of the welcome bonus that they will get upon creating an account. As we can see, many gambling casinos here required KYC, but still gamblers are willing to submit their KYC because there are here in the forum.

[Issa56]

If the casino wants to do that, it's best to explain up front by putting it on the rules page so that people who read the rules can know what they should and shouldn't do when gambling at that casino. The casino must be transparent to its members so as not to arouse suspicion. That's why we must be careful in choosing a casino site, especially one that uses kyc because we don't know what they can do with our data.

Some casino sites at the beginning they won't make kyc mandatory but after getting lots of people and they become popular then they will make kyc mandatory for their customers, which definitely not everybody will want to reveal their identity and also not everybody will be able to meet up with the requirements which they are demanding for kyc and at the end those people will endup losing their money which is very bad, the money automatically belongs to the team of the casino sites.

[mindrust]

KYC is being weaponized by the casinos. When they think the player won “too much” money, they ask for KYC and then even you give them your data, they tell you that can’t tell you about the process because it is against the law blablabla and your money will be seized by the casino just like that. The exchanges do it too. That’s why people hate KYC wholeheartedly. Most of the time KYC is a tool for shielding the scammers.

[Fredomago]

Data privacy and security is the key cause. I think gamblers are getting tired of selling their information for a risky fun adventure and it's becoming obvious by the day that each data we fill while signing up to any KYC based casino gets compromised along the line. So why should i be paying for a service that can't guarantee my privacy when there is a better option that keeps me private, secure and pseudonymous

The reason why gamblers keeps on finding platforms that will let them play without providing any KYC, there are people who will choose to be hidden and not to exceed with certain limitations to make sure that they will not be compromised, but once they've been force to provide the details, they will not take the risk but instead they will change house and try to continue enjoying their discreet participation with their gambling activities.

[BitcoinAccepted]

People sometimes want to gamble anonymously and then you want to remain anonymous. That's the main reason. Another important and common reason is that people don't trust gambling sites and companies. After all, you never know what will happen to all the information you send. It is digital, which basically means that it will never go off the internet again. You must be of good faith. I can imagine that you would not like to give such passport copies to a gambling site. You haven't the faintest idea what happened to it.

[KTChampions]

KYC is being weaponized by the casinos. When they think the player won “too much” money, they ask for KYC and then even you give them your data, they tell you that can’t tell you about the process because it is against the law blablabla and your money will be seized by the casino just like that. The exchanges do it too. That’s why people hate KYC wholeheartedly. Most of the time KYC is a tool for shielding the scammers.

The funny thing is that the document verification process can take an incredible amount of time, and while this process is going on, the casino/exchange will use your money for free. Most of all, the asymmetry of the process infuriates me - everyone is ready to accept my money without any KYC, but when I want to withdraw it, various obstacles arise.

[SirLancelot]

Definitely right, some users who don’t want to comply with the KYC still fall as a victim of the hackers and I’m thinking if KYC can really help users to be more secured. I’m ok with filling up personal information, but I’m hesitant to provide any documents for some security purposes, and honestly as much as possible I still prefer to gamble without filling up any KYC.

It's really hard to get back your personal information once it's gone to the hands of hackers or some people who will use it for some sort of scams. Since KYC is really critical and one bad move it could go wrong and will gonna ruin your life in a blink of an eye, people will avoid passing it and they will just prefer to play on some online casino that doesn't require it because it's really risky to do so. More or less, they are scared that when the Casino is closed, their personal information will be sold on the deep web to be used for some evil actions.

And if let say those hacker will be caught out, what are they going to return to you when a kyc is not like those physical documents. Also a hacker have already save different copies of your kyc. The only thing  that you can do is to clear your name. I think you can go on some government agencies and ask for help about this.

A casino can get closed for some reasons but if this casino is legit and have no past bad records then we shall not worry as the kyc that once we submit on them will not be sold or will be miss used by them but if we are still doubting then there are still gambling sites which kyc isn't required. We can play on them instead.

[Johnyz]

KYC is being weaponized by the casinos. When they think the player won “too much” money, they ask for KYC and then even you give them your data, they tell you that can’t tell you about the process because it is against the law blablabla and your money will be seized by the casino just like that. The exchanges do it too. That’s why people hate KYC wholeheartedly. Most of the time KYC is a tool for shielding the scammers.

The funny thing is that the document verification process can take an incredible amount of time, and while this process is going on, the casino/exchange will use your money for free. Most of all, the asymmetry of the process infuriates me - everyone is ready to accept my money without any KYC, but when I want to withdraw it, various obstacles arise.

Some sire requires you first to fill up the KYC before allowing you to deposit some money so by this, you still have the time to think if you are going to push through and play on that site. If ever you see this as not possible and you don’t want to provide any personal details, then you still have the option to leave. In a case of withdrawal, I think its suspicious if they will ask for any KYC while they allow you to gamble in the first place, and most probably you don’t have any choice anymore because you can’t get your money if you didn’t comply, KYC is becoming a normal thing now.

[DoublerHunter]

KYC is being weaponized by the casinos. When they think the player won “too much” money, they ask for KYC and then even you give them your data, they tell you that can’t tell you about the process because it is against the law blablabla and your money will be seized by the casino just like that. The exchanges do it too. That’s why people hate KYC wholeheartedly. Most of the time KYC is a tool for shielding the scammers.

^ I definitely agree with this.
It seems a loophole to them once there is a big amount, it is easy for them to find a solution just your money cannot get out to their wallet.
We have witnessed a lot of the same issues like this and that is why those people who are aware of that case will start to hate the KYC process.
But even though how we hate them, the fact that KYC is very common now, and most exchange or gambling casinos are required to have KYC because also it required as they follow governments protocol.

[Fatunad]

KYC is being weaponized by the casinos. When they think the player won “too much” money, they ask for KYC and then even you give them your data, they tell you that can’t tell you about the process because it is against the law blablabla and your money will be seized by the casino just like that. The exchanges do it too. That’s why people hate KYC wholeheartedly. Most of the time KYC is a tool for shielding the scammers.

The funny thing is that the document verification process can take an incredible amount of time, and while this process is going on, the casino/exchange will use your money for free. Most of all, the asymmetry of the process infuriates me - everyone is ready to accept my money without any KYC, but when I want to withdraw it, various obstacles arise.

Some sire requires you first to fill up the KYC before allowing you to deposit some money so by this, you still have the time to think if you are going to push through and play on that site. If ever you see this as not possible and you don’t want to provide any personal details, then you still have the option to leave. In a case of withdrawal, I think its suspicious if they will ask for any KYC while they allow you to gamble in the first place, and most probably you don’t have any choice anymore because you can’t get your money if you didn’t comply, KYC is becoming a normal thing now.

Asking for KYC on the time you do make out withdrawal is something that a shady act by someone or site to do such thing on which they should have asked out on the time where people do make out registration.This is why
people are really very that keen when it comes to dealing with sites that do ask out KYC.We do know that majority do really loves anonymity on which they arent exposing their identity to any services or platforms out there
but since regulations becomes stricter and just as we do know that gambling site businesses specially licensed ones would definitely need to comply on whats been asked thats why they dont really be having any option but
to comply or else that would really be giving a big effect into their company or simply it would really be closed down. They do know that community doesnt really like that way but as a business then they should really be
doing adjustments too.

[Raflesia]

KYC is being weaponized by the casinos. When they think the player won “too much” money, they ask for KYC and then even you give them your data, they tell you that can’t tell you about the process because it is against the law blablabla and your money will be seized by the casino just like that. The exchanges do it too. That’s why people hate KYC wholeheartedly. Most of the time KYC is a tool for shielding the scammers.

^ I definitely agree with this.
It seems a loophole to them once there is a big amount, it is easy for them to find a solution just your money cannot get out to their wallet.
We have witnessed a lot of the same issues like this and that is why those people who are aware of that case will start to hate the KYC process.
But even though how we hate them, the fact that KYC is very common now, and most exchange or gambling casinos are required to have KYC because also it required as they follow governments protocol.

Now that's what many KYC haters have become, this is a casino tool to hold users' money when they win big I think it's a reasonable reason but it will be legal because the casino has implemented in their rules so inevitably we have to do it if we want to get our money then it will be normal but when you can't get past it then the casino will have to hold the funds.
The rules are regulated and some of their licenses are under government supervision so KYC of course will be very common and always said to avoid scamers.

[agustina2]

KYC is being weaponized by the casinos. When they think the player won “too much” money, they ask for KYC and then even you give them your data, they tell you that can’t tell you about the process because it is against the law blablabla and your money will be seized by the casino just like that. The exchanges do it too. That’s why people hate KYC wholeheartedly. Most of the time KYC is a tool for shielding the scammers.

Yes, you have a valid point and I agree with you. That is really possible to happened or should I say, already happening now?

It's a good discussion you have started and I'm curious if there's a scenario already happened here about that.

My question is, is there a case like that before here that raised in the scam accusations section. If yes, can you give us some references to looked at?

[KennyR]

KYC is being weaponized by the casinos. When they think the player won “too much” money, they ask for KYC and then even you give them your data, they tell you that can’t tell you about the process because it is against the law blablabla and your money will be seized by the casino just like that. The exchanges do it too. That’s why people hate KYC wholeheartedly. Most of the time KYC is a tool for shielding the scammers.

Yes, you have a valid point and I agree with you. That is really possible to happened or should I say, already happening now?

It's a good discussion you have started and I'm curious if there's a scenario already happened here about that.

My question is, is there a case like that before here that raised in the scam accusations section. If yes, can you give us some references to looked at?

I don't think casinos are getting into such kind of act. I've come across incidents in which the users were requested to submit KYC when they've won big and go for withdrawal of fund. Here if the person submit KYC from a restricted jurisdiction, then the same is being used as a way to stop the withdrawal.

Maybe this could've happened, but I haven't come across it. Casinos doesn't say that your money will be seized once a person have made a big win.

[makishart]

That's why i always avoid the place that was forcing its users to verify identity. Forcing identity means that casino didn't wanna play fair. They want money to come but they didn't want money to leave from their platforms. Remember that since the owner hodl your money and you can do nothing for that. People will always prefer for their identity not to be revealed or owned by casino.

For trusted casinos, they will not force their will on their members because the casino knows if they keep doing that, maybe their members will move to another casino. We also have the option to play at the other casino we want so if the casino wants kyc, we can look for other casinos.

Yeah i do agree with it. I have been trying several casinos who didn't force its users to did KYC and those casino better than the casinos that forced its users to implement KYC. Having some alternatives were good. People didn't also wanna their identity to be owned by casinos. Im always seeing the KYC as a redflag for the casinos. Some were forcing their users to verify their identity were the worst casino.

[Nrcewker]

It's been observed that gamblers prefer to play on casino which do not enforce KYC. Well, let's discuss what are the main reasons that they do not want to show their identity and gamble anonymously.

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers,  gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

The main purpose of Cryptos was to remain anonymous.
Now if the casinos will keep on asking for KYC, then on obviously the gamblers will feel offended.
Yes OP is also somewhere right regarding the data collection.
Who knows if they sell our KYC details any where other place also.
There are many gambling casinos also, who don’t need any KYC to play on. So comparing the sites who asks for KYC, gamblers find the previous category casinos more fit to play on.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers,  gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

I think this are pretty much the reason, and you forgot to add that some other gamblers are underaged and are afraid they will be banned if they submit document for kyc verification.
Another reason I thought (based on my previous experience) is that some people also do not have the required documents or means of passing the kyc verification if its made mandatory.
And also some casinos banned some regions from gambling on their platform, some gamblers resort to using VPN to hide or change their location, if for any reason, this casino decides to force kyc upon its users, it becomes a problem for those using that casino from banned region.
Apart from this two ive mentioned, i believe every other reasons i could think of have been mentioned by you, the op 

[ethereumhunter]

Some casino sites at the beginning they won't make kyc mandatory but after getting lots of people and they become popular then they will make kyc mandatory for their customers, which definitely not everybody will want to reveal their identity and also not everybody will be able to meet up with the requirements which they are demanding for kyc and at the end those people will endup losing their money which is very bad, the money automatically belongs to the team of the casino sites.

That's what many of us don't like because those casino sites change their policies without telling their customers. And that's also what makes us move to other casinos to find comfort in playing gambling. If casinos had implemented kyc from the start, I think they would still be able to get customers because they've been honest with their potential customers.

Yeah i do agree with it. I have been trying several casinos who didn't force its users to did KYC and those casino better than the casinos that forced its users to implement KYC. Having some alternatives were good. People didn't also wanna their identity to be owned by casinos. Im always seeing the KYC as a redflag for the casinos. Some were forcing their users to verify their identity were the worst casino.

It would be better if the casino could give its customers an option i.e., if they cross the limit of the casino, they have to complete the kyc. But if they do not cross the restrictions of the casino, they are free to play gambling, deposit and withdraw their money. It will give its customers the freedom not to cross the line if they refuse kyc. Apart from that, casinos can also teach their customers lessons to learn to control themselves.

[gunhell16]

Sometimes they avoid kyc at the casinos due to personal privacy they don't want to reveal it. Sometimes there are times when we gamble and we win big, and we get to the point where we want to release what we have won by gambling because it is big, then the casino sometimes gives a policy to players who proud of the amount you release on their gambling platform they required their clients to submit kyc which the gambler or player has no other choice but to submit it.