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July 04, 2022, 01:58:16 AM
Last edit: July 11, 2022, 04:31:23 AM by Shaker_finance
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Shaker.finance
Trusted and safe bitcoin mixing solutions

After around half year of development our team is proud to show finalized project. Official project domain
is https://Shaker.finance Mixer has two options: standard mix with 1-1.5 % fee and clean mix with 3-4 % fee,
you can choose either one
. Minimum mixing amount is 0.005 BTC, maximum - 20 BTC per transaction



Standard mix

This mixing mode is made for crypto holders who are looking for fast, reliable and inexpensive mixing. 

In this case you will receive money of people who used mixer before you. Choose that mode if you 

want to save on transaction fees but still remain anonymous and safe

Clean mix

This mode allows crypto holders receiving completely clean and anonymous Bitcoins that come from
cryptocurrency exchanges and/or miners. Choose this mode if you want to receive completely clean 

coins with lowest available AML score percentage

Why Shaker.finance ?

   -  Two mixing modes: standard and clean, choose either you prefer
   -  User-friendly interface: website UX and UI are thoroughly elaborated
   -  Step by step mixing process: user can see at which mixing phase he is in
   -  Open statistics: in the mix monitor section you can see chart & latest mixes volumes
   -  Small min amount: only 0.005+ BTC is required to start mixing!
   -  No limits for max amount: Send big amount and mixing will go smoothly even if it's 10 BTC!
   -  Each address is active for 7 days: users can send coins for mix to each address for 7 days
   -  Possibility to recover session using only link that is unique for each session
   -  Forums topics: we are open for real feedback from real users and have topics on forums
   -  We don't store logs! logs are deleted after mixing process has finished

How to use Shaker.finance mixer ?

   1. On the main page choose one of two mixing modes: standard mix or clean mix
   2. Input from 1 to 2 addresses that will finally receive cleansed bitcoins
   3. Send from 0.005 BTC to the service mixing address you've received
   4. Wait for 1 confirmation for the mixing process to start. Mix will take up to few hours
   5. Get cleansed bitcoins to the specified address/addresses, you will be notified in the 
website interface as well

In case you have questions related to mixing pm or write to jabber shakerfinance@exploit.im (preferred jabber, not always on forum)
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July 05, 2022, 10:50:55 AM
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I wouldn't use or trust any bitcoin mixer on clearnet that uses cloudflare for ddos protection, like it's the case with Shaker.finance.
One more thing that makes this service suspicious is their claims that you can mix unlimited amount of coins, for new service that is highly unlikely and you didn't reveal how much funds you have in total.
Second thing I noticed reading your ToS page is that you can terminate your service at any time without taking any responsibility whatsoever:
https://shaker.finance/terms

Registration country shows Lithuania, but I suspect this is more likely one of their bigger neighboring country:
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Domain Name: shaker.finance
Registry Domain ID: 20c05d5259f743b9a5fe2d9c3b4322ea-DONUTS
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.1api.net
Registrar URL: http://www.1api.net
Updated Date: 2022-04-10T10:40:50Z
Creation Date: 2021-12-04T17:15:12Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2022-12-04T17:15:12Z
Registrar: 1API GmbH
https://www.whois.com/whois/shaker.finance

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July 05, 2022, 01:11:16 PM
Last edit: July 05, 2022, 01:24:12 PM by Shaker_finance
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Any service can terminate their website and they may not write it in their TOS, it's just basic TOS, we are not going to terminate it of course

For unlimited amount - we have reserves and able to serve big amounts

Speaking for cloudflare - some of the online exchangers from bestchange use it successfully and there are no mitm attacks or anything else

Registration in Lithuania or antiabuse is something fraudulent now ? LOL sounds funny then
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July 05, 2022, 01:43:02 PM
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For unlimited amount - we have reserves and able to serve big amounts
There is a big difference between big amounts and unlimited amounts.
So far I haven't seen anything that proves you hold substantial or any amount of coins, and I think it's high risk using something that can be gone and terminated tomorrow.

Speaking for cloudflare - some of the online exchangers from bestchange use it successfully and there are no mitm attacks or anything else
BestChange is not exchange nor it is used for mixing of coins, so it's totally different use case, and they are also available on Tor.

Registration in Lithuania or antiabuse is something fraudulent now ? LOL sounds funny then
Did I use the word ''fradulent''?
No, I didn't, and it's nothing funny about that  Roll Eyes

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July 05, 2022, 11:41:41 PM
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Speaking for cloudflare - some of the online exchangers from bestchange use it successfully and there are no mitm attacks or anything else
The difference between them and your service is that they are exchangers (some of them are AML complaint) and yours is a mixing service. You do realize that when you start mixing coins, Governments and law enforcement agencies could start surveilling your service?

How do you guarantee that your customers are safe from surveillance when your service is using Cloudflare?

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Speaking for cloudflare - some of the online exchangers from bestchange use it successfully and there are no mitm attacks or anything else
The difference between them and your service is that they are exchangers (some of them are AML complaint) and yours is a mixing service. You do realize that when you start mixing coins, Governments and law enforcement agencies could start surveilling your service?

How do you guarantee that your customers are safe from surveillance when your service is using Cloudflare?

Blender.io was using cloudflare for years. Plenty of Russian darknet forums use or used cloudflare. If you have some other alternative but cloudflare let me know
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I believe, the code could be improved

line 382

Code:
<p>Haжимaя нa кнoпкy, вы дaётe coглacиe нa oбpaбoткy <a href="#">пepcoнaльныx дaнныx</a></p>

and line 364

Code:
<div class="modal__title">
                            <h1 class="title-1 mix-name"></h1>
                            <p>Lorem Ipsum is simply dummy text of the printing and typesetting industry. Lorem Ipsum has been the
                                industry's standard dummy text ever since the 1500s, when an unknown printer took a galley of type
                                and scrambled it to make a type specimen book. It has survived not only five centuries, but also the
                                leap into electronic typesetting, remaining essentially unchanged. It was popularised in the 1960s
                                with the release of Letraset sheets containing Lorem Ipsum passages, and more recently with desktop
                                publishing software like Aldus PageMaker including versions of Lorem Ipsum.</p>
                        </div>

they both seem not needed.

About the piece of code below, how that come the stats are static? You edit them everyday, or?
It should be dynamic. Sorry for the question but I started to wonder "this guy added random numbers to make it looking 'active'

Code:
<div class="monitor__table">
                        <table>
                                                            <tr>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>№1</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>4 days ago</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>0.0065 BTC <span>($133.25)</span></p>
                                    </td>
                                </tr>
                                                            <tr>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>№2</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>1 week ago</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>0.0054 BTC <span>($110.70)</span></p>
                                    </td>
                                </tr>
                                                            <tr>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>№3</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>2 weeks ago</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>0.01 BTC <span>($205.00)</span></p>
                                    </td>
                                </tr>
                                                            <tr>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>№4</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>2 weeks ago</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>0.0056 BTC <span>($114.80)</span></p>
                                    </td>
                                </tr>
                                                            <tr>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>№5</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>2 weeks ago</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>0.03 BTC <span>($615.00)</span></p>
                                    </td>
                                </tr>
                                                            <tr>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>№6</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>2 weeks ago</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>0.0053 BTC <span>($108.65)</span></p>
                                    </td>
                                </tr>
                                                    </table>
                    </div>
                </div>

Good luck with your service. More mixers coming, better it is. Are you planning a Tor version?


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July 07, 2022, 12:23:38 AM
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I believe, the code could be improved

line 382

Code:
<p>Haжимaя нa кнoпкy, вы дaётe coглacиe нa oбpaбoткy <a href="#">пepcoнaльныx дaнныx</a></p>

and line 364

Code:
<div class="modal__title">
                            <h1 class="title-1 mix-name"></h1>
                            <p>Lorem Ipsum is simply dummy text of the printing and typesetting industry. Lorem Ipsum has been the
                                industry's standard dummy text ever since the 1500s, when an unknown printer took a galley of type
                                and scrambled it to make a type specimen book. It has survived not only five centuries, but also the
                                leap into electronic typesetting, remaining essentially unchanged. It was popularised in the 1960s
                                with the release of Letraset sheets containing Lorem Ipsum passages, and more recently with desktop
                                publishing software like Aldus PageMaker including versions of Lorem Ipsum.</p>
                        </div>

they both seem not needed.

About the piece of code below, how that come the stats are static? You edit them everyday, or?
It should be dynamic. Sorry for the question but I started to wonder "this guy added random numbers to make it looking 'active'

Code:
<div class="monitor__table">
                        <table>
                                                            <tr>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>№1</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>4 days ago</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>0.0065 BTC <span>($133.25)</span></p>
                                    </td>
                                </tr>
                                                            <tr>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>№2</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>1 week ago</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>0.0054 BTC <span>($110.70)</span></p>
                                    </td>
                                </tr>
                                                            <tr>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>№3</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>2 weeks ago</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>0.01 BTC <span>($205.00)</span></p>
                                    </td>
                                </tr>
                                                            <tr>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>№4</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>2 weeks ago</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>0.0056 BTC <span>($114.80)</span></p>
                                    </td>
                                </tr>
                                                            <tr>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>№5</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>2 weeks ago</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>0.03 BTC <span>($615.00)</span></p>
                                    </td>
                                </tr>
                                                            <tr>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>№6</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>2 weeks ago</p>
                                    </td>
                                    <td>
                                        <p>0.0053 BTC <span>($108.65)</span></p>
                                    </td>
                                </tr>
                                                    </table>
                    </div>
                </div>

Good luck with your service. More mixers coming, better it is. Are you planning a Tor version?



Those are stats from our tests. Try to make mix you will see that they're dynamic. The problem is that we almost don't have users yet that's why stats are fixed atm

For those comments thanks will take a look

Also let me know if you have problems with site loading because to my point of view this .gif is too way heavy and I'd remove it but maybe users don't have problems with site loading

tor version is coming soon
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July 07, 2022, 02:20:24 PM
 #9

Blender.io was using cloudflare for years. Plenty of Russian darknet forums use or used cloudflare. If you have some other alternative but cloudflare let me know

How will you ensure the privacy of customers or that their IP addresses will not be recorded or exchanged with third parties?
We have seen many sites effected by massive DDOS attacks, but at least some of them have a Tor version, Hope to see it ASAP
How long does the mixing process take? Is it constant or random and if it is random is it predictable?
What is the source of the coins, meaning that you will mix the user's coins, or does the mixing process begin before depositing?

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In this case you will receive money of people who used mixer before you. Choose that mode if you 

want to save on transaction fees but still remain anonymous and safe
Personally, I wouldn't label it as "safe" if it's going to create a bridge between someone else's previous history and the other user!

This mode allows crypto holders receiving completely clean and anonymous Bitcoins that come from
cryptocurrency exchanges and/or miners. Choose this mode if you want to receive completely clean 

coins with lowest available AML score percentage
I had a brief experience with a few analysis software tools in the past and IIRC, "most" exchanges returned with medium-risk ML scores!

  -  Open statistics: in the mix monitor section you can see chart & latest mixes volumes
If I were you, I'd remove that section completely [it's not that hard to connect the dots if everything you've listed in there is accurate]!

  -  Unlimited max amount: Send any amount and mixing will go smoothly even if it's 10 BTC!
A signed message would be nice Smiley

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Blender.io was using cloudflare for years. Plenty of Russian darknet forums use or used cloudflare. If you have some other alternative but cloudflare let me know

How will you ensure the privacy of customers or that their IP addresses will not be recorded or exchanged with third parties?
We have seen many sites effected by massive DDOS attacks, but at least some of them have a Tor version, Hope to see it ASAP
How long does the mixing process take? Is it constant or random and if it is random is it predictable?
What is the source of the coins, meaning that you will mix the user's coins, or does the mixing process begin before depositing?

We don't store logs, it's mixer policy
Mixing process takes up to few hours, starts once there is 1st confirmation on the blockchain. In the standard mix mode user will receive coins of previous mixer participants, in the clean mix mode - clean coins from exchanges



In this case you will receive money of people who used mixer before you. Choose that mode if you 

want to save on transaction fees but still remain anonymous and safe
Personally, I wouldn't label it as "safe" if it's going to create a bridge between someone else's previous history and the other user!

This mode allows crypto holders receiving completely clean and anonymous Bitcoins that come from
cryptocurrency exchanges and/or miners. Choose this mode if you want to receive completely clean 

coins with lowest available AML score percentage
I had a brief experience with a few analysis software tools in the past and IIRC, "most" exchanges returned with medium-risk ML scores!

   -  Open statistics: in the mix monitor section you can see chart & latest mixes volumes
If I were you, I'd remove that section completely [it's not that hard to connect the dots if everything you've listed in there is accurate]!

   -  Unlimited max amount: Send any amount and mixing will go smoothly even if it's 10 BTC!
A signed message would be nice Smiley

For the standard mix mode it's relatively safe, you won't get your coins but will get someone else coins that's the idea

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I had a few minutes spent on the website and found a few spelling mistakes. Don't you think a professional business would cross-check a few times before launching the website? I don't think we are dealing with a professional team. At least, the website says so.

For unlimited amount - we have reserves and able to serve big amounts
What's the maximum amount you allow? 10 BTC or 100 BTC or above? Never mind, would you mind signing from an address with a balance of 10 BTC? That would increase your trustworthiness. You don't have to share with me. In this case, you can trust LoyceV and I'm sure LoyceV won't share the PM with anyone else.

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July 07, 2022, 08:08:17 PM
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I had a few minutes spent on the website and found a few spelling mistakes. Don't you think a professional business would cross-check a few times before launching the website? I don't think we are dealing with a professional team. At least, the website says so.

For unlimited amount - we have reserves and able to serve big amounts
What's the maximum amount you allow? 10 BTC or 100 BTC or above? Never mind, would you mind signing from an address with a balance of 10 BTC? That would increase your trustworthiness. You don't have to share with me. In this case, you can trust LoyceV and I'm sure LoyceV won't share the PM with anyone else.

20 BTC per mix maximum at the moment

Let me know for spelling mistakes where are they, we just launched and fixing them would take few mins

Sgning is not safe, we will deposit soon around 40-50k$ on forums deposits, including wwh-club, exploit, xss and some others where we have advertisement or planning to have it, arranging this moment with project investors
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July 07, 2022, 08:58:08 PM
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Code:
<p>Haжимaя нa кнoпкy, вы дaётe coглacиe нa oбpaбoткy <a href="#">пepcoнaльныx дaнныx</a></p>
Is this looking like Lithuanian language to anyone, or maybe bigger neighboring country like I suspected? Wink

Shaker_finance I would suggest that you create and sponsor small campaign for testing your service, maybe some people will find bugs and examine how your website works.
Similar mixing service have done something similar in past, and it could be good for everyone in future.


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Code:
<p>Haжимaя нa кнoпкy, вы дaётe coглacиe нa oбpaбoткy <a href="#">пepcoнaльныx дaнныx</a></p>
Is this looking like Lithuanian language to anyone, or maybe bigger neighboring country like I suspected? Wink

Shaker_finance I would suggest that you create and sponsor small campaign for testing your service, maybe some people will find bugs and examine how your website works.


It's Russian language, this is fixed within few minutes, we will fix those things within 1-2 days.

Launching signature campaign on bitcointalk for now
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Launching signature campaign on bitcointalk for now
Signature campaign is fine, but I was thinking about creating something like honest review campaign and testing from experienced forum members.
It's not easy for people to trust new mixing service and it takes time to get trust from people, but at least we can compare your service with other well established mixers.
Another thing you could do is to have open bounty reward for anyone who finds flaws in your website.

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Launching signature campaign on bitcointalk for now
Signature campaign is fine, but I was thinking about creating something like honest review campaign and testing from experienced forum members.
It's not easy for people to trust new mixing service and it takes time to get trust from people, but at least we can compare your service with other well established mixers.

I will consider this thing, need some reviews in fact
Do you have some topics-examples maybe ?
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Blender.io was using cloudflare for years. Plenty of Russian darknet forums use or used cloudflare. If you have some other alternative but cloudflare let me know
Also, Blender.io "went MIA" all of a sudden.

How come the US Authorities decided to sanction them? I am pretty sure they were surveilling them, and even they knew how the Korean hackers mixed the coins through the mixer.

About the alternatives, that's your work to do, my friend. I am just helping you look at things from different angles, so you can improve on your service where necessary.

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Blender.io was using cloudflare for years. Plenty of Russian darknet forums use or used cloudflare. If you have some other alternative but cloudflare let me know
Also, Blender.io "went MIA" all of a sudden.

How come the US Authorities decided to sanction them? I am pretty sure they were surveilling them, and even they knew how the Korean hackers mixed the coins through the mixer.

About the alternatives, that's your work to do, my friend. I am just helping you look at things from different angles, so you can improve on your service where necessary.

It was probably scam exit after the case where money suddenly disappeared from their Blender wallet, you may read about it on the web
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For the standard mix mode it's relatively safe, you won't get your coins but will get someone else coins that's the idea
Yes, I understood that part before and that's exactly why I think it's not that safe! Essentially, it'll lead to fusing two different digital footprints together [even if there's a single hop in-between] and that could go wrong in various ways [e.g. when an analysis company traces those transactions, there'll be collateral damage].

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