Telegram Group and new investment plattform

[TomChicker]

Hi.

I just was invited to a telegram group which has more than 300 members and one guy is something like the admin / guru.

He sends daily trading signals mostly based on crypto AIC. Therefore he recommends a new platform called tilicoin.com. He also offers 1:1 trading coaching. He takes 10% of the profits and after several days of group signal trading I made some good profits. Unleveraged profits are not as high (1-2%).

I checked in with some hundred dollars of gaming money  but for 1:1 coaching he wants to increase the money.

I also checked withdrawal one time to be sure that it's possible and not a fake. It did work  also for a bigger amount.

So guys... what is your opinion regarding this gambling case? 
 Does anyone here you this platform?

Best regards

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[Oshosondy]

Just know that the people are looking for ways to scam you.

Information about your link, tilicoin dot com:
Registered On: 2022-04-23
Expires On: 2023-04-23
Updated On: 2022-04-23

The site was reistered just two months ago, stay away from that exchange because it is new and most exchanges like that will only do one thing to you, the exchange will only scam you.

What I want to understand is that the person that is coaching you in trading also is providing game prediction? As for gambling, I will suggest you not to depend on anyone, just play your game yourself and never depend on anyone, just use the amount you can afford to lose and have fun.

For trading, better to learn it yourself and use a trustworthy platforms like Binance, OKX, Coinbase and other trustworthy exchanges rather than using an exchange that is new, not trustworthy and that can lead to scam.

[Desmong]

If everything is happening on Telegram the you need to be very careful because this might be a trick to rob you of all your earnings. If you want to enrol for his teaching, one on one class then that should be your own opinion since you he had traded for you with good profits. So do not trade or gamble on platforms that are new in the gambling and Crypto world. It is a risky attempt and you should know what you are taking yourself into.

[aioc]

I'm always added on 2 to 5 groups similar to what you're promoting every week and all of them get blocked and reported by me,
Don't trust these people, as you can see there is no FAQ and terms of service on their site there is no transparency, they preach easy money to their members, if they asked you to deposit money, don't ever do that we have a good number of reputable exchange, the industry is not lacking don't take a risk, if you're promoting this project you will be marked as part of the scam.

[Oshosondy]

If everything is happening on Telegram the you need to be very careful because this might be a trick to rob you of all your earnings.

Not might but definitely it is just a way to scam, he would only be scammed. Seeing that scam site alone should have let us known that they are planing to scam. I am still always getting surprise that some people will be scammed this way which is avoidable.

If you want to enrol for his teaching, one on one class then that should be your own opinion since you he had traded for you with good profits.

The one on one class is not face to face, they met on a telegram group, believing who you do not know alone is foolishness when it comes to money, even the person you know might scam you not to talk of people you do kit know.

These kind of online lessens, classes or whatever someone can call it are only a means some people are using to scam people.

So do not trade or gamble on platforms that are new in the gambling and Crypto world. It is a risky attempt and you should know what you are taking yourself into.

Exactly my opinion.

@TomChicker, check lists of exchanges here: https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges

Some can still be shaddy, make more research to know which ones are best for you.

[TomChicker]

Thanks for that many replies.
As I also did a successful withdrawal I was a kind of less nervous.
I would not trust that platform but all advises were successful until now and I made a good profit.

Other question: does anybody know another platform to trade with AIC?

[Distinctin]

Hey @OP, what do you mean by Trading? Are you referring to a trading platform? if so, then you are not at the right board, you should move this one.

And by the way, a guro taking 10% of your profit?
That's nice, it means he has no risk at all if the call is wrong.

[goaldigger]

Hey @OP, what do you mean by Trading? Are you referring to a trading platform? if so, then you are not at the right board, you should move this one.

And by the way, a guro taking 10% of your profit?
That's nice, it means he has no risk at all if the call is wrong.

This should be on a trading section since its about trading and this kind of services is not good for me.
Those who claimed their self as a guru in trading probably, is just hyping themselves to scam people, I don't believe on those telegram group and for sure, those are the dummy accounts to fool you OP. Better not to avail their services because its too suspicious, you can't make money with that kind of scheme, it can be a dead end for you OP.

[acroman08]

Based on what Oshosondy shared you should be extremely cautious with joining them or making any kind of transaction with them. there have been too many people being scammed when joining telegram groups like this. and to be honest, if I were you, I would just completely ignore them. it is not worth the risk of trying to engage with them.

the thread should be in trading discussion.

[Saisher]

You make it sounds like the project is legit and you are in a good group, but you cannot fool people here we have seen this kind of scam before and they posted it making it appear they've just been invited and made profits, and this is to entice people to join deposit and trade if it sounds too good to be true, there's a hidden agenda on it, and why pick an unknown trading platform when we already have established exchange, unless you are too greedy.

[Peanutswar]

If you think you are capable to learn by yourself it is ideal to do this and to those groups, it is good that you will only gain knowledge but if there's a tutor or mentoring it is your part because there's a possible risk that they might run out your money, telegram is one of the most common tools to invite people and a good opportunity for scammers, there's a chance that they will must need to gain your trust and make you a withdrawal at the first stage but sooner or later once you gain a large amount that's the chance that there's a possible issue might rise up.

[cabron]

Who name an exchange "tilicoin"?  No one in their right mind name their long term business that way. What comes in your mind the first when you hear tilicoin?

But if you think you  can learn from the guy, sure its a good idea but letting him handles your money to trade for you is another story. You are already in the telegram group so what else do they need from you when you have the access already to the tips they'd give.

[Smartvirus]

I also checked withdrawal one time to be sure that it's possible and not a fake. It did work  also for a bigger amount.

So guys... what is your opinion regarding this gambling case? 
Does anyone here you this platform?

About the withdrawal, are you saying you actually withdrew a large amount of your generated funds or you just initiated the process partly and quit the way?
Be it as it may, some sites may allow this to grow a little bit of trust especially when you try withdrawing with a small amount.

Just know that the people are looking for ways to scam you.

Information about your link, tilicoin dot com:
Registered On: 2022-04-23
Expires On: 2023-04-23
Updated On: 2022-04-23

Looking for ways to scam others isn't a new story anymore but actually playing right into there hands is the mistakes that is always astonishing to watch these guys make. If you aren't trading on your own self generated signals, your doing it wrong from my perspective. Its actually you trying to skip the work and rather take risk where your not certain as to how it would go. A sight that has jus one year operational period based on registration and awaits further subscription to prolong service offer, scuffs. It's something to be mindful of.

[ImThour]

This post is more about him promoting his own telegram group rather than asking people If it's legit or not.
That's how these new accounts promote their stuff for free of cost. Meanwhile, the forum members try to help them, which is okayish.
 I mean anyone can clearly see what's actually happening.

[RILWAN]

You are on the way to becoming scammed, most of the telegram signals group is made up of scammers they have techniques that will lure newbies to become scams. So be careful about the kind of deals you have over telegram.

[maydna]

This is my first time hearing about tilicoin.com. And if you are comfortable with his services, you can use them to profit from trading. But if you are still hesitating, I suggest not to find out or join that telegram group because it will be better if you learn to analyze and improve your trading skills in the future to help you make a profit too. Learning to have skills in trading is a must because that is how you can make a profit.

[Hispo]

This post is more about him promoting his own telegram group rather than asking people If it's legit or not.
That's how these new accounts promote their stuff for free of cost. Meanwhile, the forum members try to help them, which is okayish.
 I mean anyone can clearly see what's actually happening.

Right.
It is not unusual a new account is created to seek advise or help as the result of a scam, lost coins or similar situations, it has happend before with 1xbit, for instance. However, the fact OP is making emphasis on successful withdravals and on the percentage of this guru, investor, telegram thing, should raise a red flag.

If a Telegram link is shared on this thread or sent privately to any participant of this thread, be wise and do not feel tempted to deposit a single satoshi in such a shady business.

Nothing personal. We all need to be cautious about scammers.

[Agbe]

Hi.

I just was invited to a telegram group which has more than 300 members and one guy is something like the admin / guru.

He sends daily trading signals mostly based on crypto AIC. Therefore he recommends a new platform called tilicoin.com. He also offers 1:1 trading coaching. He takes 10% of the profits and after several days of group signal trading I made some good profits. Unleveraged profits are not as high (1-2%).

I checked in with some hundred dollars of gaming money  but for 1:1 coaching he wants to increase the money.

I also checked withdrawal one time to be sure that it's possible and not a fake. It did work  also for a bigger amount.

So guys... what is your opinion regarding this gambling case? 
 Does anyone here you this platform?

Best regards

Smile, even you, you are here to lure people to that Ponzi scheme. You are a suspect. Telegram I know is a platform of scammers. It is only those who want to rich over night does want you are doing. Why would you give money to someone to coach, trade and gamble for you. How does that sound in your ears? The whole story here in my opinion is a scam presentation. I will never be scammed again since when I joined this forum, my eyes have been open and the Brain has understand more about scam. So scammers can't convince me anymore. Therefore, Mr. OP please if you are not part of the scamming team on telegram you better run for your life before it too late. I hope Oshosondy has given you the statistic analysis of the website you provided. The registration date and the date the site is expiring. Only that is an enough evidence for you to know that it is a scam site. I have been scammed for such people so I Know their tricks. My brothers run

[Slow death]

Hi.

I just was invited to a telegram group which has more than 300 members and one guy is something like the admin / guru.

you can give us the following information:

1 - post the telegram channel link
2 - post the name of this guru

So guys... what is your opinion regarding this gambling case? 

I think you are confusing, day trading is not a gamble and you are day trading

Does anyone here you this platform?

I don't use strange platforms and I think you must not use this site

[minime0105]

If everything is happening on Telegram the you need to be very careful because this might be a trick to rob you of all your earnings. If you want to enrol for his teaching, one on one class then that should be your own opinion since you he had traded for you with good profits. So do not trade or gamble on platforms that are new in the gambling and Crypto world. It is a risky attempt and you should know what you are taking yourself into.

from what I know the telegram group and a telegram investment and a telegram prediction I will say that you are right for your suggestion because trusting telegram group it's like having two egg One direction but I believe that any person who is doing anything with telegram group chat or telegram group should be careful because of telegram social media is a total mess up because people is not using it The Rob to extort money to scam people indifferent method so you have to be careful as Desmong said

[coin-investor]

This post is more about him promoting his own telegram group rather than asking people If it's legit or not.
That's how these new accounts promote their stuff for free of cost. Meanwhile, the forum members try to help them, which is okayish.
 I mean anyone can clearly see what's actually happening.

That's also my perception, he tried to make it appear that he is a newbie and invited to the group so we cannot give him bad feedback there's a possibility that he is one of the owners or one of its promoters I have seen this kind of post so many times and the project posted always goes offline after a month or the telegram deleted because it's reported for scamming, there's no transparency on the telegram group because it can be manipulated, they buy fake members and shills to increase their membership and deceive investors.

[crzy]

You are on the way to becoming scammed, most of the telegram signals group is made up of scammers they have techniques that will lure newbies to become scams. So be careful about the kind of deals you have over telegram.

Thinking the same way, I’ve never seen anyone succeed on those signal group I see this as a whole group of scammer that is just waiting for the right moment to scam you. Those guru who are asking for some money in return will lose nothing here, any analysis can be copy by anyone and if those guru did this, you’re on a big trouble. Don’t wait for any signal, you should start analyzing on your own.

[minime0105]

You are on the way to becoming scammed, most of the telegram signals group is made up of scammers they have techniques that will lure newbies to become scams. So be careful about the kind of deals you have over telegram.

Thinking the same way, I’ve never seen anyone succeed on those signal group I see this as a whole group of scammer that is just waiting for the right moment to scam you. Those guru who are asking for some money in return will lose nothing here, any analysis can be copy by anyone and if those guru did this, you’re on a big trouble. Don’t wait for any signal, you should start analyzing on your own.

everybody have notice the deficiency of telegram signal group only what they do is to have different ways or different plans to scam people somebody said that they haven't see anyone who succeeds through search type of telegram group so if we are to take a look at it or consider this signal platform in telegram we should careful for the way we deposit or follow the instructions they give. Because many of them is basically scam platform

[Ryker1]

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So guys... what is your opinion regarding this gambling case? 
 Does anyone here you this platform?

Well why you are talking about a gambling case on this thread because you want to gamble the scammer offer?
It seems like you are shilling this website here and making the story and I hope I am wrong with this perception because in the first place the exchange site is new and don't have reputable enough and if you have to make sense you know that it is very risky --another factor is that they used telegram group to convince people that is not an appropriate way for me. So stay away from that website that they offer.

[adzino]

Hi.

I just was invited to a telegram group which has more than 300 members and one guy is something like the admin / guru.

He sends daily trading signals mostly based on crypto AIC. Therefore he recommends a new platform called tilicoin.com. He also offers 1:1 trading coaching. He takes 10% of the profits and after several days of group signal trading I made some good profits. Unleveraged profits are not as high (1-2%).

I checked in with some hundred dollars of gaming money  but for 1:1 coaching he wants to increase the money.

I also checked withdrawal one time to be sure that it's possible and not a fake. It did work  also for a bigger amount.

So guys... what is your opinion regarding this gambling case? 
 Does anyone here you this platform?

Best regards

1. Don't join those shitty groups. Most of those "signals trading" groups are scam. They charge you for random signals or information that are available publicly online.

2. Don't trade on that site. Highly likely you are going to get scammed. He is probably trying to earn your trust first by allowing you to withdraw small amount. Once you deposit a lot, you probably won't be able to withdraw anything.

[Maslate]

You are on the way to becoming scammed, most of the telegram signals group is made up of scammers they have techniques that will lure newbies to become scams. So be careful about the kind of deals you have over telegram.

OP better play safe, or just leave when he got some profit as this kind of platform will not last, it's just like a pyramid scheme that will pay in the early stage but will scam in the end. Good thing OP brought it here, at least he can read our opinion and I'm sure most of us would agree that it's a scam.

[Wiwo]

Are you trying to advertise them, with what you have written about the platform allowing you to withdraw you are indirectly trying to convince us that such platforms are legit but ultimately telegram has become a haven for scammers lately and I for once will not trust any deal emanating from that platform, so I will advise you to apply caution and be careful not to lose your money in the long run.

[TomChicker]

This post is more about him promoting his own telegram group rather than asking people If it's legit or not.
That's how these new accounts promote their stuff for free of cost. Meanwhile, the forum members try to help them, which is okayish.
 I mean anyone can clearly see what's actually happening.

Right.
It is not unusual a new account is created to seek advise or help as the result of a scam, lost coins or similar situations, it has happend before with 1xbit, for instance. However, the fact OP is making emphasis on successful withdravals and on the percentage of this guru, investor, telegram thing, should raise a red flag.

If a Telegram link is shared on this thread or sent privately to any participant of this thread, be wise and do not feel tempted to deposit a single satoshi in such a shady business.

Nothing personal. We all need to be cautious about scammers.

No this thread is not created to scam somebody. It seems that I was scammed now. As I told you that one withdrawal was possible,  now I am waiting for my second to be paid out since more than 12 hours. I am lucky that I did not trust to them 100%. But who knows... maybe they will pay out next hours. I will inform. After I can see that my withdrawal is kept, I will also inform you in detail about that method. It's because I was in that group for a long time passively (2 months!) and only watched the advises and the profits. For me it was very trustable after that long period. I began to invest a 3 digit amount and after that a small 4 digit amount in sum (USDT). I successfully made profit about 15%. After that I successfully made a withdrawal of 700 UDST to also check that. Then, after 2 months of being there passively and started to follow advises the group was closed for common advises and only direct, private advises are possible now for me. But only if I invest more money. Yes I know, I am silly...

[CryptoYar]

he recommends a new platform called tilicoin.com.

I tried to check the website, what is this and why is that guru recommending you. but it seems the website is not working at all, don't know if it is in maintenance mode or something else.

So guys... what is your opinion regarding this gambling case? 

If you want to trade then learn it by yourself, If you can't. then just buy and hold. This is the easiest and safest way. IMO

[decodx]

But only if I invest more money. Yes I know, I am silly...

To put it mildly... 

In your post you said you had been following the Telegram group passively for two months (by the way, that doesn't seem long)? But the very platform you mentioned is only two months old. There wasn't even a domain registered before then. Don't you think it's suspicious that someone offers advice and trading tips on an exchange that just started working? That should have been your first clue that it was most likely a scam.

When you say you didn't trust them 100%, but you still invest a small 4 digit amount in USDT. That doesn't make sense. How much would you invest if you did trust them 100 percent?

Last but not least, you have not provided any evidence for any of your claims, so members here will be hard-pressed to believe your story. We've seen all kinds of scam attempts, and this could very well be one of them.

[nakamura12]

I don't really trust people on telegram. At first, you will think that they are not scammers like you are satisfied with their service and later on they will scam you once they have gained your trust 100% then that's when they start to scam you. Anyway, I am not saying that all people on telegram are scammers, it's just that most of them are so, I won't really trust that easily. I even getting PM from random person saying I could earn lots of money but didn't bother to check it out.

[Doell]

I don't really trust people on telegram. At first, you will think that they are not scammers like you are satisfied with their service and later on they will scam you once they have gained your trust 100% then that's when they start to scam you. Anyway, I am not saying that all people on telegram are scammers, it's just that most of them are so, I won't really trust that easily. I even getting PM from random person saying I could earn lots of money but didn't bother to check it out.

That could be the right conclusion, I also think the same thing telegram channel there are many groups with hundreds of fake accounts in it, no wonder if someone just look at the total members. Maybe the scenario of getting a profit will only open one's mind to promote bring in more friends and even family, and when it has lost a lot, explode group disappears.

[goinmerry]

No this thread is not created to scam somebody. It seems that I was scammed now. As I told you that one withdrawal was possible,  now I am waiting for my second to be paid out since more than 12 hours. I am lucky that I did not trust to them 100%. But who knows... maybe they will pay out next hours. I will inform.

To make it looks legit and to lure you more, they made a successful withdrawal for you. And now you leave hanging.

If there's a chance that they will still pay you, use your common sense on want to do next and don't mention any reasons why you should keep on investing on that platform. Don't waste people's time here advising what is good for you if you will just follow your own decision.

I don't like your statement "But who knows... maybe they will pay out next hours. " You are completely ignoring anyone's suggestion here.

I'm even sure that you are just shilling that service here.

[Cling18]

This post is more about him promoting his own telegram group rather than asking people If it's legit or not.
That's how these new accounts promote their stuff for free of cost. Meanwhile, the forum members try to help them, which is okayish.
 I mean anyone can clearly see what's actually happening.

We have the same thing in mind. I also noticed that he seems like promoting and shilling the platform rather than confirming if it's legit or not. I could sense that it's another strategy to attract people in this forum. As for me, it's hard to transact with groups or people from Telegram especially if it involves funds because most scammers are using that platform to scam people.

[bitzizzix]

My advice is to avoid groups like that, even though there may be good groups, most are scams and there are even some members who are in charge of promoting to find as many members as possible and convince those who end up being scammed.
The Telegram channel is a haven for experts in trading or anything crypto related and to get as many members as possible for their earnings, but it will also be a haven for scammers designed as best they can to scam people.
so you have to be very careful especially for new platforms and also having few members.

[Gozie51]

Thanks for that many replies.
As I also did a successful withdrawal I was a kind of less nervous.
I would not trust that platform but all advises were successful until now and I made a good profit.

Other question: does anybody know another platform to trade with AIC?

Somehow his response is looking like he kind of promoting this site where he keep talking about profit made and access to withdrawal. I'm just curious about his challenge if he has been making money and withdrawing them , so what could be his reason or reasons to come up here , advert of course haha.  

[ethereumhunter]

I don't really trust people on telegram. At first, you will think that they are not scammers like you are satisfied with their service and later on they will scam you once they have gained your trust 100% then that's when they start to scam you. Anyway, I am not saying that all people on telegram are scammers, it's just that most of them are so, I won't really trust that easily. I even getting PM from random person saying I could earn lots of money but didn't bother to check it out.

I agree with you because I have long heard and know that on telegram, many scammers gather and try to find new targets to deceive. We don't know if they are really good services but before we join them, we should find out more about them. In addition, maybe many of us have been fooled by such services so we really have to be careful if invited to join the telegram channel.

[bitbollo]

I Would never use and Exchange without a track record or trust a random group on telegram that provide some hints about betting or crypto.
In the past we have seen fake pump group were people invested in altcoins but get only scammed at the end because the owners Just dump their Coin.
Most of the times in these kind of situation,risk to get scammed Is bigger then the chance to earn some bucks.

[danherbias07]

No this thread is not created to scam somebody. It seems that I was scammed now. As I told you that one withdrawal was possible,  now I am waiting for my second to be paid out since more than 12 hours. I am lucky that I did not trust to them 100%. But who knows... maybe they will pay out next hours. I will inform. After I can see that my withdrawal is kept, I will also inform you in detail about that method. It's because I was in that group for a long time passively (2 months!) and only watched the advises and the profits. For me it was very trustable after that long period. I began to invest a 3 digit amount and after that a small 4 digit amount in sum (USDT). I successfully made profit about 15%. After that I successfully made a withdrawal of 700 UDST to also check that. Then, after 2 months of being there passively and started to follow advises the group was closed for common advises and only direct, private advises are possible now for me. But only if I invest more money. Yes I know, I am silly...

I was just about to reply to your second post to warn you about this but sadly it did happen already. Sorry about the loss.
Don't expect it will be given back. They are trying to make you think it is legit by letting you withdraw once or in some cases twice so that you will invest more. That's how the scam works. It's not instant, they will build trust first until you are comfortable about handing them more money so that it won't be a wasted scam.
If ever they will pay you back one more, please stop. If there are profits then good for you. You scammed them. Feel better about it and forget it.

the thread should be in trading discussion.

Yeah, I was confused too and that's OP's fault for not clearing it out. About signals in the intro and gambling case at the 2nd to the last line.

[decodx]

Somehow his response is looking like he kind of promoting this site where he keep talking about profit made and access to withdrawal. I'm just curious about his challenge if he has been making money and withdrawing them , so what could be his reason or reasons to come up here , advert of course haha.  

I agree. This seems more like a promotion than a complaint. He should have provided screenshots or other proof to back up his claims if he wanted us to take him seriously. I believe that he did not actually invest anything and is just trying to get the scam platform to lure more victims. The next thing he'll probably say is that he successfully withdrew the funds and "made" thousands of dollars in profit.  

Yeah, I was confused too and that's OP's fault for not clearing it out. About signals in the intro and gambling case at the 2nd to the last line.

Maybe he doesn't know the difference between a gambling site and a trading site? hahaha!

[chaser15]

What if you still received your second payout, OP?
Will you continue to "trust" the platform since they pay you?
What will be your actions after you received your second payout?

I don't believed at these trading signals investment with paid subs. Even whales are struggling to ride the volatile crypto market.

Seems an easy money on them. They will just provide random signals and if they are right, instant 1:1 commission from their clients. If they are wrong, nothing will happened. It's like they are betting on the market without a risks but instead they will profit from their clients.

[Rengga Jati]

I just was invited to a telegram group which has more than 300 members and one guy is something like the admin / guru.

Be aware and watch out for this kind of group. We should be more careful when going to trust a certain group, moreover in the telegram group. This may be a scam. Commonly they will post many things very good to make the members of the group believe in what they are doing. They may also create fake members and review to convince the real member about the telegram group.
Moroever as @Oshosondy said, the site is new enough. It is better for you to do gambling in trusted platform only. Nveer trust anyonein grup or other social media.

[Johnyz]

I just was invited to a telegram group which has more than 300 members and one guy is something like the admin / guru.

Be aware and watch out for this kind of group. We should be more careful when going to trust a certain group, moreover in the telegram group. This may be a scam. Commonly they will post many things very good to make the members of the group believe in what they are doing. They may also create fake members and review to convince the real member about the telegram group.
Moroever as @Oshosondy said, the site is new enough. It is better for you to do gambling in trusted platform only. Nveer trust anyonein grup or other social media.

This has been a problem with the newbies, they easily get attracted to the group that sells them the signal which is not guaranteed anyway, but still they spend money here. If you are an inspiring gambler or trader, you should not depend to anyone and better to have your own analysis, in gambling its more fun if you already have the idea of what you are doing instead of following someones advices. Gamble on your own, don’t treat gambling as your source of income, just enjoy and you wont need any group anymore.

[harizen]

I already said this before, professional traders are too busy to manage this type of investment. They are serious building their respective trading portfolio and don't have time to organize paid signal groups. We are not just talking about few subscribers here but there are lots. Surely, these professional traders won't bother to spend time organizing that. It's a big distraction on their trading activity.

Use your common sense. Not all paying are legit.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136108

[Pokapoka124]

I wouldn't believe anything on telegram, investments or fixed matches they are all scams. The scammers may pay you a couple of times to get your trust before they run away with all you have to give. Nothing good will come out of this if the admin was so sure of making this much money he wouldn't be wasting his time sending signals in a telegram group.
I also don't trust newbies whose first posts are questions about sketchy investments because in a way they promote this scam groups

[Hispo]

This post is more about him promoting his own telegram group rather than asking people If it's legit or not.
That's how these new accounts promote their stuff for free of cost. Meanwhile, the forum members try to help them, which is okayish.
 I mean anyone can clearly see what's actually happening.

Right.
It is not unusual a new account is created to seek advise or help as the result of a scam, lost coins or similar situations, it has happend before with 1xbit, for instance. However, the fact OP is making emphasis on successful withdravals and on the percentage of this guru, investor, telegram thing, should raise a red flag.

If a Telegram link is shared on this thread or sent privately to any participant of this thread, be wise and do not feel tempted to deposit a single satoshi in such a shady business.

Nothing personal. We all need to be cautious about scammers.

No this thread is not created to scam somebody. It seems that I was scammed now. As I told you that one withdrawal was possible,  now I am waiting for my second to be paid out since more than 12 hours. I am lucky that I did not trust to them 100%. But who knows... maybe they will pay out next hours. I will inform. After I can see that my withdrawal is kept, I will also inform you in detail about that method. It's because I was in that group for a long time passively (2 months!) and only watched the advises and the profits. For me it was very trustable after that long period. I began to invest a 3 digit amount and after that a small 4 digit amount in sum (USDT). I successfully made profit about 15%. After that I successfully made a withdrawal of 700 UDST to also check that. Then, after 2 months of being there passively and started to follow advises the group was closed for common advises and only direct, private advises are possible now for me. But only if I invest more money. Yes I know, I am silly...

This sounds like an obvious Ponzi scheme you and anyone with any finance knowledge should stay away from.  
I dont know how people even consider to up 3 figures on an investment telegram group, it is like the shadiest thing one could put ones money into. Again, stay away or risk to lose all, they are likely asking for more money because their piramid is becoming harder to sustain at this point.

[agustina2]

OP is still hanging on and expecting his next withdrawal.

Anyways, I have question for OP, are those withdrawals are already a profit to you or still a long way reaching your return of investment? If already on profit, then I would say it's good to expect since whether they will processed it or not, you already made a profit. No worries at all if they turned out to be scam.

But if your ROI is far from reality, I suggest to start trying to move on now and don't expect that withdrawal to be processed. Feel the pain and regret the actions you did. Come back later on as a responsible person that never will believe now on that type of investment.

[qwertyup23]

So guys... what is your opinion regarding this gambling case? 
 Does anyone here you this platform?

When I first saw the title of the thread, I knew that this would involve another telegram group invite where a person would offer some attractive services that will compel you to at least take out some money. Those kinds of schemes are very common nowadays and I highly suggest that you stay away from them due to the fact that they are a scam.

Telegram groups where a person randomly invites you are definitely red-flags for people looking to invest. They will take advantage people and offer them attractive rates that are difficult to refuse. Once you invest money on their project, they will start to siphon most of the capital, which will make you lose money in the long run.

[gunhell16]

Hi.

I just was invited to a telegram group which has more than 300 members and one guy is something like the admin / guru.

He sends daily trading signals mostly based on crypto AIC. Therefore he recommends a new platform called tilicoin.com. He also offers 1:1 trading coaching. He takes 10% of the profits and after several days of group signal trading I made some good profits. Unleveraged profits are not as high (1-2%).

I checked in with some hundred dollars of gaming money  but for 1:1 coaching he wants to increase the money.

I also checked withdrawal one time to be sure that it's possible and not a fake. It did work  also for a bigger amount.

So guys... what is your opinion regarding this gambling case? 
 Does anyone here you this platform?

Best regards

You know that exchange is new to this industry, so the risk is very high. Then there are many other exchanges that can be trusted than that such as binance, Houbi, Bitmart, Kucoin, and others that are included in the top exchange, why is that, you are just putting your investment at risk, in fact, I just don't know if you can withdraw there is no problem with your income or assets. I just hope you get out without a problem. Good luck to you.

[TomChicker]

Thanks for all replies.

Short Update: I tried to get in touch with the "contact person" (guru) but he even said to me, that he is not responsible for problems / questions regarding the platform. So from now on it´s true: I´ve been scammed.

Shame on me that I trusted these guys.

But now I want to ask you one question: Does it make sense to investigate into that thing? I mean: I found out some data behind the "frontpages" and i could (for example) make a complainment at ic3.gov (IP address of the platform terminates in US!).

Does that male sence from your side?

Best regards

[michellee]

Thanks for all replies.

Short Update: I tried to get in touch with the "contact person" (guru) but he even said to me, that he is not responsible for problems / questions regarding the platform. So from now on it´s true: I´ve been scammed.

Shame on me that I trusted these guys.

But now I want to ask you one question: Does it make sense to investigate into that thing? I mean: I found out some data behind the "frontpages" and i could (for example) make a complainment at ic3.gov (IP address of the platform terminates in US!).

Does that male sence from your side?

Best regards

In this case, you've got some experience with how scammers work and this can help you identify if you're getting an offer that's almost identical to what you're getting.

If you want to investigate, it will take a lot of time because they are very good at hiding their identity and how they work. So if you're willing to do it, that makes sense and maybe you can find something else about the scammer. You may be able to file a complaint at ic3.gov if you wish. Instead of spending a lot of time taking care of things like that, you'd better use your time to tell people, including those close to you, about your experience so they don't get scammed.

[bitbollo]

@OP
first of all, I am sorry for your loss. this is why I don't trust anyone in telegram, and I have several proofs "everything offered" in 99% of the cases it's just a scam.

About your issue, open a scam accusation here on forum so you can help other people to avoid this kind of group and this website. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

I don't know if it's really working a complaint to ic3, because it requires a lot of time and you are not sure of the final result. they can just move their data and starting again maybe with a new site. helping other customers by providing these details on how the scam has been provided I think it's much much more usefull.
 

[rhomelmabini]

But now I want to ask you one question: Does it make sense to investigate into that thing? I mean: I found out some data behind the "frontpages" and i could (for example) make a complainment at ic3.gov (IP address of the platform terminates in US!).

Does that male sence from your side?

I don't think they'll just leave behind a trace to who or where they are, they'll surely provide fake names and addresses. It's easy to route IP these days with the use of the technology and if these scammers are that intelligent enough to know that, then the chance is too slim but if not you can just try it out.

[btc78]

Hi.

I just was invited to a telegram group which has more than 300 members and one guy is something like the admin / guru.

He sends daily trading signals mostly based on crypto AIC. Therefore he recommends a new platform called tilicoin.com. He also offers 1:1 trading coaching. He takes 10% of the profits and after several days of group signal trading I made some good profits. Unleveraged profits are not as high (1-2%).

I checked in with some hundred dollars of gaming money  but for 1:1 coaching he wants to increase the money.

I also checked withdrawal one time to be sure that it's possible and not a fake. It did work  also for a bigger amount.

So guys... what is your opinion regarding this gambling case? 
 Does anyone here you this platform?

Best regards

Mate , try not to fall in any telegram groups , because this can be deleted at all time so you wont have any things to hold against the person if they scammed you or something that related to that issue.

and besides best to learn from your own experience , there are so many platforms that you can understand .

never listen to strangers mate because we must be responsible for our own money and our own time.

[Gozie51]

Shame on me that I trusted these guys.

Don't feel that kind of regret for yourself. Get up from your mistake and don't fall the second time. Telegram and online groups are not always reliable and trusted,  you now have such experience and need to be more careful

But now I want to ask you one question: Does it make sense to investigate into that thing? I mean: I found out some data behind the "frontpages" and i could (for example) make a complainment at ic3.gov (IP address of the platform terminates in US!).

Does that male sence from your side?

Best regards

Scammers don't easily expose traces that you can track them down or give you exact clue that you were scammed but if you have seen your proof that you can expose them , you can do that to help others.

[ultrloa]

Hi.

I just was invited to a telegram group which has more than 300 members and one guy is something like the admin / guru.

He sends daily trading signals mostly based on crypto AIC. Therefore he recommends a new platform called tilicoin.com. He also offers 1:1 trading coaching. He takes 10% of the profits and after several days of group signal trading I made some good profits. Unleveraged profits are not as high (1-2%).

I checked in with some hundred dollars of gaming money  but for 1:1 coaching he wants to increase the money.

I also checked withdrawal one time to be sure that it's possible and not a fake. It did work  also for a bigger amount.

So guys... what is your opinion regarding this gambling case? 
 Does anyone here you this platform?

Best regards

Scammers can easily fake those withdrawals so for sure all of those are manipulated so better not to take any offers coming from any random guys since for sure their intention is only to scam you. Try to learn for yourself how to do better trades since this is much good initiative to take compare on grabbing the risk like what you encountered.

[BitcoinAccepted]

Yes, a lot has been said and written about it, but it is true. Scammers see their opportunity to cheat naive people a lot of money in this way. And the basic rule and principle remains the same: Why make someone rich by betting on matches when you have all the knowledge yourself and don't use it yourself to log in and gamble yourself? then there will probably be all kinds of excuses such as that they cannot gamble from their country. You can gamble somewhere in every country. And if you can't, that means you've never been associated with gambling and so you shouldn't engage in gambling on your own.

[_act_]

Shame on me that I trusted these guys.

You do not have to shame yourself, I just hope the amount you are scammed with is not too much.

But now I want to ask you one question: Does it make sense to investigate into that thing? I mean: I found out some data behind the "frontpages" and i could (for example) make a complainment at ic3.gov (IP address of the platform terminates in US!).

To give is easy but to recover is hard. It depends on the amount you are scammed. If the amount is huge like thousands or millions of dollars, you can investigate about it. But if it is just a small amount, you can just overlook it and forget about it and avoid further scam. Do not trust recovery service and avoid being scammed again. Money that will be used for investigation is much and the chance that you will know the culprits is low.

[goldkingcoiner]

Hi.

I just was invited to a telegram group which has more than 300 members and one guy is something like the admin / guru.

He sends daily trading signals mostly based on crypto AIC. Therefore he recommends a new platform called tilicoin.com. He also offers 1:1 trading coaching. He takes 10% of the profits and after several days of group signal trading I made some good profits. Unleveraged profits are not as high (1-2%).

I checked in with some hundred dollars of gaming money  but for 1:1 coaching he wants to increase the money.

I also checked withdrawal one time to be sure that it's possible and not a fake. It did work  also for a bigger amount.

So guys... what is your opinion regarding this gambling case? 
 Does anyone here you this platform?

Best regards

Its 100% a scam and I would not advise you or anyone else to join into such groups. Especially on Telegram. The same goes for "crypto influencers" who rent out some expensive car, shoot a few videos with it and then tell people to buy their courses.

These people have no idea what they are doing and if you listen to them you will lose all your money, either to them or by trading on "signals".

Learn how to trade yourself and stop following people who self proclaim themselves to be successful. Especially if they are trying to sell you something.

You should see the red flags yourself.

[Fernandoaguil796]

Scam company. Stole my money! Thanks to blockchain chargeback. Org for recovering my stolen money.

[LUCKMCFLY]

You just have to be very careful,  telegram is a place most people want to always generate money from people.  If you feel this platform is real one thing I will tell you is for you to only put in money you can afford to loss. Before you do anything try to be very sure you are in the right place, make enquiries.

Telegram for me is a factor where you should be very careful, in fact, sometimes many scammers use bots to try to harm people, that is why any suspicious attitude through telegram should be denounced and reported, that's why when groups are formed and tend to give positive things, such as improving trading, giving free signals, it is not something to trust, I think it is the most iconic way of being able to enter the privacy of the person, where it is very easy to enter and steal information and money, it is for this reason that for groups of this style on telegram I usually run away, it is not my style.

[TheGreatPython]

Scam company. Stole my money! Thanks to blockchain chargeback. Org for recovering my stolen money.

According to what I read they did not ask for an upfront payment but they only ask 10 percent of your profit after several days. That was a nice term in my opinion. There's no pressure with that. If you don't earn nicely then you can choose to not pay for a while or you can even run away and not pay at all once you earn something good but this is not right, bad karma will follow you soon.

You mentioned something about chargeback. I thought chargebacks are not possible here in cryptos? That kind of feature do only exist in paypal. Groups like this works best for trading but for gambling, you mostly need a luck so ill better use the money to bet more and increase my chance.

[goinmerry]

You mentioned something about chargeback. I thought chargebacks are not possible here in cryptos?

Clearly, the user is shilling the site about that chargeback.

There's no such thing as a company that can cover the loss of a user when got scammed by a shit company, especially in the crypto world.

How that company can even make profits for such service and doings where in the first place, scam sites don't engage or talk to anyone. Avoid any company that claims can recover the money from a scam site. I tried to visit that chargeback site to see more of their shit information but I can't access it.

[harizen]

Telegram for me is a factor where you should be very careful, in fact, sometimes many scammers use bots to try to harm people, that is why any suspicious attitude through telegram should be denounced and reported, that's why when groups are formed and tend to give positive things, such as improving trading, giving free signals, it is not something to trust,

In that cases, I can't really put blame on the platform or those chillers that promoting a scam site.

If only most users use their common sense and are not deceived by those unrealistic offers, the scam cases should be minimized by now.

People want easy money and that's a wrong mindset. Not that I'm bad at them but for me, it's good that they experienced scam things for them to learn the lesson.

[agustina2]

Scam company. Stole my money! Thanks to blockchain chargeback. Org for recovering my stolen money.

Blockchain chargeback? lol. Good attempt on promoting or mentioning that site here but you can't fool people here. There is no way you can recover money from a scam website by using a third-party service. Only fools will believe there is such a thing.

To prevent any scam, why such beliefs on that investment platform? Work smarter to make money, not rely on such investments where you will do nothing.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Scam company. Stole my money! Thanks to blockchain chargeback. Org for recovering my stolen money.

Blockchain chargeback? lol. Good attempt on promoting or mentioning that site here but you can't fool people here. There is no way you can recover money from a scam website by using a third-party service. Only fools will believe there is such a thing.

To prevent any scam, why such beliefs on that investment platform? Work smarter to make money, not rely on such investments where you will do nothing.

I had to read twice and very slowly to understand that blockchain.com had returned the money, and I think that the way to scam has no limits, the good thing about the forum is that nobody here has stupidity levels (in the majority) everyone usually be smart enough to realize tremendous bravado, the worst thing about this type of group is that sometimes there are people who do not have much knowledge about technology and who have some money and fall into the hands of these people, which makes lose your money and then take away the desire to be in the crypto world, and I think that from there is where a part of the fud begins..

Well  in that they are right, because that Blockchain gives them back the money, that is very bad publicity, two years ago I saw a service that had to be paid to be able to reverse a transaction by blockchain but that is within a limited time range, of course it was a service, but it was not from blockchain.com but rather apart from it, so the truth is that when they tell lies in that way it is confusing, and it is not the idea.

[coinerer]

It is better to ignore telegram personal messages and group .because must of the scammer use telegram for attack crypto users. so you should be carefull to use any services from telegram

[Hamza2424]

Haha as my dear fellow said its better to ignore the aame topic somebody atarted in the Gambling Sub Thread and got offline from after starting the topic and Many users are still responding and providing the suggestions and same topic here too. Wait a minute what they want 😜 if anybody cracked their motive do let me know here

[TimeTeller]

As suggested by other members, staying away from such offers is best especially if "trader" himself messages you first on social media. Never heard about that exchange but it is 90% scam in most cases. Signal groups don't do much for inexperienced traders, smart traders know what and when to do without selling this information, IMHO.

Telegram groups have not-so-good reputation because of their performance.
I don't know the motive of the OP here, but maybe, he is part of the team of the group he is endorsing with.
Because honestly, telegram groups for trading and investing are a thing in the past.
We already uncovered their true nature, most screwing these new traders.

[harizen]

Well  in that they are right, because that Blockchain gives them back the money, that is very bad publicity, two years ago I saw a service that had to be paid to be able to reverse a transaction by blockchain but that is within a limited time range, of course it was a service, but it was not from blockchain.com but rather apart from it, so the truth is that when they tell lies in that way it is confusing, and it is not the idea.

Regardless, users should not be tricked that something like chargeback happened in crypto. Obviously, how come a chargeback is possible where in the very first place, the company offering that service won't be to contact the scam site involved? Where will the chargeback money that is supposed to be recovered by the user's will come from?

Seems users are very aggressive and determined to get back the money that got scammed, they will easily believe in such chargeback service and will not use their respective common sense that their money is now gone for good. These people who got scammed also have to pay that company claiming they can do a chargeback and that's another loss of money for them.

Double scam in progress.

[robelneo]

It is better to ignore telegram personal messages and group .because must of the scammer use telegram for attack crypto users. so you should be carefull to use any services from telegram

I agree I only join a telegram group for communication on projects I'm working with and on bounty campaigns where the requirement is to be part of the group, but I decline any invitation coming from unknown individuals which promise profit or gain, there are few safety features on telegram it has become the favorite tool of scammers to scam people, you can create an unlimited number of accounts and there are few verification features except your phone.

[blockman]

It is better to ignore telegram personal messages and group .because must of the scammer use telegram for attack crypto users. so you should be carefull to use any services from telegram

Right.
If you don't want to have an headache dealing with these everyday, just don't follow any of those channels and groups. Because there are also the annoying group adders.
I don't trust if you're into a telegram group that offers gambling and investment schemes through the channel itself, it is untrustworthy.

[goinmerry]

It is better to ignore telegram personal messages and group .because must of the scammer use telegram for attack crypto users. so you should be carefull to use any services from telegram

I agree I only join a telegram group for communication on projects I'm working with and on bounty campaigns where the requirement is to be part of the group, but I decline any invitation coming from unknown individuals which promise profit or gain, there are few safety features on telegram it has become the favorite tool of scammers to scam people, you can create an unlimited number of accounts and there are few verification features except your phone.

But that's what has not happened to others. Some users easily believed in PMs they are receiving.

Who to blame for that? The users themselves.

If only they know how to determine the obvious thing, the scam part should not happen. As long as there are believers, scam attempts won't stop.

[strunberg]

It is better to ignore telegram personal messages and group .because must of the scammer use telegram for attack crypto users. so you should be carefull to use any services from telegram

I agree I only join a telegram group for communication on projects I'm working with and on bounty campaigns where the requirement is to be part of the group, but I decline any invitation coming from unknown individuals which promise profit or gain, there are few safety features on telegram it has become the favorite tool of scammers to scam people, you can create an unlimited number of accounts and there are few verification features except your phone.

telegram now full of scammer that send direct messages to everyone in any telegram group. i think we must sett our privacy on our telegram account to avoid big mistake that we will made. alot unknown group suddenly in our list group and most of them were scammers. if we didnt due dilligence , i am believe we could be next victim.

[TopT3ns]

telegram now full of scammer that send direct messages to everyone in any telegram group. i think we must sett our privacy on our telegram account to avoid big mistake that we will made. alot unknown group suddenly in our list group and most of them were scammers. if we didnt due dilligence , i am believe we could be next victim.

Unfortunately in telegram there are still no rules where we cannot delete groups briefly and there is also no feature to delete messages in a short time, if only there was an automatic group exit feature that was not used then it would make it easier for telegram users so as not to avoid the group which is a lot of fraud. So far only a few telegram groups that I think are very good and the rest are just scams and other promotions.

[Little_Sister]

Unfortunately in telegram there are still no rules where we cannot delete groups briefly and there is also no feature to delete messages in a short time, if only there was an automatic group exit feature that was not used then it would make it easier for telegram users so as not to avoid the group which is a lot of fraud. So far only a few telegram groups that I think are very good and the rest are just scams and other promotions.

I wish telegram would add the feature of tagging multiple groups to leave out, my account has been auto added using pathetic bots to join various scam groups, so I have to leave scam telegram groups up to 5 groups daily and I had to have a main telegram account to avoid being added to the scam group.

[Viscore]

I just was invited to a telegram group which has more than 300 members and one guy is something like the admin / guru.

Be aware and watch out for this kind of group. We should be more careful when going to trust a certain group, moreover in the telegram group. This may be a scam. Commonly they will post many things very good to make the members of the group believe in what they are doing. They may also create fake members and review to convince the real member about the telegram group.
Moroever as @Oshosondy said, the site is new enough. It is better for you to do gambling in trusted platform only. Nveer trust anyonein grup or other social media.

Telegrams nowadays are said and has been proven to be playground of scams, so avoid it at all cost. It just feel right in the beginning since they are still building up the trust so you can be convince to trust them and prove that they are legit. But when they have gained your trust and you start depositing in them, eventually they will start taking advantage and steal your money little by little. Until you end up realizing that you have been scammed and lose all your money all of a sudden.

[agustina2]

I wish telegram would add the feature of tagging multiple groups to leave out, my account has been auto added using pathetic bots to join various scam groups, so I have to leave scam telegram groups up to 5 groups daily and I had to have a main telegram account to avoid being added to the scam group.

I believed there's a feature in Telegram wherein others can't add you to any groups. It's impossible that popular social media platforms like that where chat is the main service don't have that feature. Just explore the Settings and it should be there. It's a big problem if anyone can just add you to a group freely. It will violate our privacy. It can be controlled as it's not comfortable to have an experience of being in random groups without your own permission and approval.

Even bots can't force to add you in a random group as long as you configure your Settings about it.

Give it a good time exploring that feature for you not to become annoyed the next time you visit your Telegram account.

[DoublerHunter]

Unfortunately in telegram there are still no rules where we cannot delete groups briefly and there is also no feature to delete messages in a short time, if only there was an automatic group exit feature that was not used then it would make it easier for telegram users so as not to avoid the group which is a lot of fraud. So far only a few telegram groups that I think are very good and the rest are just scams and other promotions.

I wish telegram would add the feature of tagging multiple groups to leave out, my account has been auto added using pathetic bots to join various scam groups, so I have to leave scam telegram groups up to 5 groups daily and I had to have a main telegram account to avoid being added to the scam group.

^You can do it on your own, I have the same situation as yours and until now no one can auto add my account on any Telegram group or channel.
Go to your Telegram setting, and find Privacy and Security, under the Privacy section find and click the Group & Channel and select My Contact under the selection of Who can add me to the group, not the option which is Everybody. I hope you get it.
Common scams happen on Telegram, I don't want to gamble my money there if there is any who introduced their service, especially those who posted here, Telegram betting group which I always doubted.

[milewilda]

Unfortunately in telegram there are still no rules where we cannot delete groups briefly and there is also no feature to delete messages in a short time, if only there was an automatic group exit feature that was not used then it would make it easier for telegram users so as not to avoid the group which is a lot of fraud. So far only a few telegram groups that I think are very good and the rest are just scams and other promotions.

I wish telegram would add the feature of tagging multiple groups to leave out, my account has been auto added using pathetic bots to join various scam groups, so I have to leave scam telegram groups up to 5 groups daily and I had to have a main telegram account to avoid being added to the scam group.

^You can do it on your own, I have the same situation as yours and until now no one can auto add my account on any Telegram group or channel.
Go to your Telegram setting, and find Privacy and Security, under the Privacy section find and click the Group & Channel and select My Contact under the selection of Who can add me to the group, not the option which is Everybody. I hope you get it.
Common scams happen on Telegram, I don't want to gamble my money there if there is any who introduced their service, especially those who posted here, Telegram betting group which I always doubted.

When it comes to telegram or even on discord where someone who do make some private message or random groups which you had seen that you've been joined and if someone do make out some
private message telling something or do have some offers whether free bets or trading subs or tips and signals and ending up on asking some amounts or something then better ignore and stay
away because thats an obvious typical or common scam that we do have in the market today thats why you should really make yourself aware and be careful and better to autoblock or
do set out those settings which would prevent these scammers to sent or adding you into any group.

[KennyR]

It is better to ignore telegram personal messages and group .because must of the scammer use telegram for attack crypto users. so you should be carefull to use any services from telegram

I agree I only join a telegram group for communication on projects I'm working with and on bounty campaigns where the requirement is to be part of the group, but I decline any invitation coming from unknown individuals which promise profit or gain, there are few safety features on telegram it has become the favorite tool of scammers to scam people, you can create an unlimited number of accounts and there are few verification features except your phone.

telegram now full of scammer that send direct messages to everyone in any telegram group. i think we must sett our privacy on our telegram account to avoid big mistake that we will made. alot unknown group suddenly in our list group and most of them were scammers. if we didnt due dilligence , i am believe we could be next victim.

Myself too gets added to different telegram groups. Among them some groups used to have some healthy conversation about the market. I used to watch them and understand the market. This way it can also be used for good. As said you too can be the next victim, being little cautious can help you stay away from scammers.

[ChiBitCTy]

I think anyone who does this kind of things is taking a massive gamble/risk and that anyone charging 10% is insane and that you could do this on your own for a whole lot less fees. I don’t trust anyone who does this an none one has any sort of special tools or trading bots that Cavan actually predict the future. So my recommendation as a financial advisor, stay far away from this type of stuff !

[gunhell16]

^You can do it on your own, I have the same situation as yours and until now no one can auto add my account on any Telegram group or channel.
Go to your Telegram setting, and find Privacy and Security, under the Privacy section find and click the Group & Channel and select My Contact under the selection of Who can add me to the group, not the option which is Everybody. I hope you get it.
Common scams happen on Telegram, I don't want to gamble my money there if there is any who introduced their service, especially those who posted here, Telegram betting group which I always doubted.

That's why I'm surprised by the number of groups that have added me on telegram that I don't even know them, it's accumulated so much that I'm annoyed to leave and report the group, but thank you very much Sir for teaching me this I can no longer just be added to the group they will create.

Then I noticed that Telegram has become a breeding ground for scammers, there are many fraudsters and people who steal funds from people they know they are going to cheat, especially when they read that they are willing to withdraw money even if they are not the ones you are asking, they will create a fake account. and pretend they are part of a project team and will be called right away, which is questionable. So this should be avoided and avoided immediately.

[TheGreatPython]

I think anyone who does this kind of things is taking a massive gamble/risk and that anyone charging 10% is insane and that you could do this on your own for a whole lot less fees. I don’t trust anyone who does this an none one has any sort of special tools or trading bots that Cavan actually predict the future. So my recommendation as a financial advisor, stay far away from this type of stuff !

Gambling and trading is already risky but taking signals from someone else might help you win if you are not sure about your ability but only if that source you are relying upon is also legit and proven to give accurate signals. The risk will only be massive if we are paying big for such service and then we also bet huge thinking we can secure the win already.

No one can predict the future but it's possible for a match to be fixed and know the outcome of the game, the same goes from a certain coin. Someone that is powerful enough can manipulate it and predict accurately where it will head. Maybe that sounds unethical to you and won't still advise someone to join it.