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September 05, 2022, 04:59:30 PM
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Here's Chinese Foreign Minister's (Wang Yi) speech, during Pelosi's visit to Taiwan.

"It is an outright farce. Under the guise of democracy, the US is infringing on China's sovereignty.

Taiwan's Tsai Ing-Wen and those of her ilk try to rely on the power of the US, which betrays the overall national interest of China. Such retrogressive moves won't change the international concensus that there is only one China, nor can they reverse the historical trend of reunification of the mainland and Taiwan.

Those who play with fire will come to no good end and those who offend China will be penalised."

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September 05, 2022, 05:08:41 PM
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These is a bold claim since this topic is very sensitive since it’s a crime. I do agree that US always involved in every internal conflict of a country but that doesn’t mean they want to start war since they are just doing there job to help weak country as superpower. I knew there’s a lot of controversy and allegations about US being connected on starting a war but this is all just a heresy unless it was proven with proof.

China is bullying Taiwan while US just want to help. I know we are all afraid to war since we knew what’s it consequences. But why not we questioned those country that bullied weak country just because they have claims for that territory? Why even country wants power while there’s no known enemy? Country like China, US and other strong country is just creating there enemy by themselves while there people only wants to live normally.

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September 05, 2022, 07:18:10 PM
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Taiwan is the world's largest producer of semiconductors in addition to being a leader in many other sectors in the technology field. And in view of the trade war between America and China, America must guarantee that Taiwan will not cut off its supplies of these products to the American market, as dictated by China, which it considers its province.

Fueling the conflict between Taiwan and China is an attempt to cut off Chinese power from the island and let it control its decisions.

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September 05, 2022, 07:32:50 PM
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Certainly, this is my personal opinion, the United States is the main cause of most of the turmoil in the world, the United States is not far from any important event happening around the world, they want to maintain their reputation as a superpower without a competitor in the world, so they always encourage problems in various countries that suffer from Conflicts, especially those in which a party is a world power such as China, so I am sure they encourage Taiwan to separate from China in order to keep China in trouble permanently.

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September 05, 2022, 08:47:48 PM
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These is a bold claim since this topic is very sensitive since it’s a crime. I do agree that US always involved in every internal conflict of a country but that doesn’t mean they want to start war since they are just doing there job to help weak country as superpower. I knew there’s a lot of controversy and allegations about US being connected on starting a war but this is all just a heresy unless it was proven with proof.

China is bullying Taiwan while US just want to help. I know we are all afraid to war since we knew what’s it consequences. But why not we questioned those country that bullied weak country just because they have claims for that territory? Why even country wants power while there’s no known enemy? Country like China, US and other strong country is just creating there enemy by themselves while there people only wants to live normally.

Taiwan is part of China and US presidents before Biden agreed to this One China policy.

War will ruin Taiwan like Ukraine. China doesn't want to rule Taiwan in ashes. Russia is now on Arctic region exhibiting war games, I think Russia is about to bring the war in the US soil near Alaska where is just about 90 miles away from US. Russia is actually closer to America. They wanna see if US is willing to also destroy Alaska and Canada in a war.

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September 06, 2022, 05:41:56 AM
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in contrast to the conflict between ukraine and russia,, it seems that the us does not want to get too far into the taiwan-mainland china conflict for several reasons,, firstly, taiwan is the largest global semiconductor producer and the us is very dependent on their production and the us does not want this production to be disrupted because of the war,, secondly, the trade relations between china and the us are quite large, so they don't want to lose a trading partner as big as china,, thirdly, the ukraine-russia conflict is already very complex and the us doesn't want to add to global geopolitical tensions

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September 06, 2022, 09:51:29 AM
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Here's Chinese Foreign Minister's (Wang Yi) speech, during Pelosi's visit to Taiwan.

"It is an outright farce. Under the guise of democracy, the US is infringing on China's sovereignty.

Taiwan's Tsai Ing-Wen and those of her ilk try to rely on the power of the US, which betrays the overall national interest of China. Such retrogressive moves won't change the international concensus that there is only one China, nor can they reverse the historical trend of reunification of the mainland and Taiwan.

Those who play with fire will come to no good end and those who offend China will be penalised."

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I think it is better to wait and see how things go from here. These nations have a history that makes matters
more sensitive in a global spectrum. War just messes the modern economy everywhere. I think with all the problems
on our planet today, War is preferably less ideal (if possibly) on the menu. Economies and people need to recover.
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September 06, 2022, 11:18:51 AM
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I don't really know if the same happened with Ukraine and Russia but I think this time the USA will gonna intervene and make their moves against China if ever a war broke out between China and Taiwan. More or less this war will gonna change the history of the world because this will gonna trigger nuclear war for sure and also the allies of both countries will join the war. If this is just a small thing, we already see both countries exchanging missiles against each other but both are careful not to further escalate any major tensions because when one of them push the button, it won't be easily turned off like what we see with Ukraine today.

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September 07, 2022, 05:49:42 PM
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Just saw on CNN that US has approved more than $1.1 billion in arms sales to Taiwan, which includes up to 60 anti-ship missiles and up to 100 air-to-air missiles, and this has heightened the tension, as China is demanding that US revoke them, which US claims that it's their long standing policy to provide the Island with arms which is essential for their security.

I fear should this escalate further, knowing that Russia and China are allies and both countries doesn't have a good relationship with the US. What would happened should both countries decides to face the US, will Europe intervene in the favour of US?

The tension gets more heightened with each passing day.
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September 07, 2022, 09:58:51 PM
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Just saw on CNN that US has approved more than $1.1 billion in arms sales to Taiwan, which includes up to 60 anti-ship missiles and up to 100 air-to-air missiles, and this has heightened the tension, as China is demanding that US revoke them, which US claims that it's their long standing policy to provide the Island with arms which is essential for their security.

I fear should this escalate further, knowing that Russia and China are allies and both countries doesn't have a good relationship with the US. What would happened should both countries decides to face the US, will Europe intervene in the favour of US?

The tension gets more heightened with each passing day.


if US is going to go between the war of taiwan vs china, my country Philippines will probably be occupied by US. this will put us in a bad situation.
US had been making wars everywhere in the world making border conflicts worse when instead keeping the peace.

China, like any other country is a proud country developing magnificent projects all over the world. if US wants the friendly competition, developing projects on other countries will also be good for them. Not war.










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September 09, 2022, 12:01:31 PM
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Just saw on CNN that US has approved more than $1.1 billion in arms sales to Taiwan, which includes up to 60 anti-ship missiles and up to 100 air-to-air missiles, and this has heightened the tension, as China is demanding that US revoke them, which US claims that it's their long standing policy to provide the Island with arms which is essential for their security.

I fear should this escalate further, knowing that Russia and China are allies and both countries doesn't have a good relationship with the US. What would happened should both countries decides to face the US, will Europe intervene in the favour of US?

The tension gets more heightened with each passing day.


America seeks to bring Taiwan into a direct confrontation with China in an attempt to weaken China and present it to the world as a fearsome monster. Contrary to the Ukrainian example, Taiwan will not be able to find the same support that Ukraine received, and even economic sanctions will be regressive to those who do them.

Europe is going through an economic and energy crisis. It will not be able to provide any kind of support to Taiwan, especially since China is able to completely crush it in a few days.

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America seeks to bring Taiwan into a direct confrontation with China in an attempt to weaken China and present it to the world as a fearsome monster. Contrary to the Ukrainian example, Taiwan will not be able to find the same support that Ukraine received, and even economic sanctions will be regressive to those who do them.

Europe is going through an economic and energy crisis. It will not be able to provide any kind of support to Taiwan, especially since China is able to completely crush it in a few days.

How so? If Taiwan is weakened, so is the U.S. It's against the U.S.'s interest for China and Taiwan to get into a conflict.

Say the Ukrainian war never happened and Europe didn't have an energy crisis, even then they wouldn't invest resources to defend Taiwan. They aren't the world's police, and I'm not even sure the U.S. would step in either.

Realistically, what could the U.S. do against an invasion? They won't be sending the fighter jets. They might send Nancy Pelosi  Grin
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The United States certainly has a way of backing the freedoms of countries trying to cause problems for our international competitors.  It's hard to view this as the US trying to promote freedom and common sense says that it's being done just to put a thorn in the side of those we feel are a threat to our economic dominance.  It seems like the international community is growing tired of this practice, and has been since the last Bush administration.  I think it will take a generation or two before this practice is ended though.  There are just too many old career politicians for real change to occur anytime soon.

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September 10, 2022, 03:43:00 PM
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America seeks to bring Taiwan into a direct confrontation with China in an attempt to weaken China and present it to the world as a fearsome monster. Contrary to the Ukrainian example, Taiwan will not be able to find the same support that Ukraine received, and even economic sanctions will be regressive to those who do them.

Europe is going through an economic and energy crisis. It will not be able to provide any kind of support to Taiwan, especially since China is able to completely crush it in a few days.

How so? If Taiwan is weakened, so is the U.S. It's against the U.S.'s interest for China and Taiwan to get into a conflict.

Say the Ukrainian war never happened and Europe didn't have an energy crisis, even then they wouldn't invest resources to defend Taiwan. They aren't the world's police, and I'm not even sure the U.S. would step in either.

Realistically, what could the U.S. do against an invasion? They won't be sending the fighter jets. They might send Nancy Pelosi  Grin

America will not get involved in a field war with big powers like China. All that America seeks is to create tension to isolate China, as it tried to do with Russia, but of course it failed.

With a new chaos, China will not be able to buy Russian oil, and therefore the sanctions imposed on Russia will achieve its goals, weakening it.
The Russian-Chinese connection is what binds the two conflict areas together. Especially since America is a major player in both wars.

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November 12, 2022, 08:31:23 AM
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Of course. The United States is the root of countless problems all over the world. U.S is no longer the only superpower or at least it has been in decine all these years. All the doings are centered on how to maintain his superpower. The most useful way is to keep all competitors down through causing them trouble and conflicts endlessly. It is an international consensus that there is only one China and Taiwan is just part of China. The U.S certainly knows this very well yet tries every means to destroy the relationship between them. Will the reunification of mainland China and Taiwan be done ? Of course, it is just a matter of time.
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November 21, 2022, 04:20:05 PM
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Here's Chinese Foreign Minister's (Wang Yi) speech, during Pelosi's visit to Taiwan.

"It is an outright farce. Under the guise of democracy, the US is infringing on China's sovereignty.


This might be possible to some extent, but it would not be easy in a perfect world. Taiwan is the world's top semiconductor manufacturing country. So might have the support of many other countries that are either partially or wholly dependent on the semiconductor manufactured in Taiwan.


Taiwan's Tsai Ing-Wen and those of her ilk try to rely on the power of the US, which betrays the overall national interest of China. Such retrogressive moves won't change the international concensus that there is only one China, nor can they reverse the historical trend of reunification of the mainland and Taiwan.

Those who play with fire will come to no good end and those who offend China will be penalised."

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Also, Taiwan has strong economic and political conditions. So it would be such an easy.
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November 22, 2022, 12:31:52 AM
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I still believe the real question to be whether TSMC employees would choose to remain employed in taiwan if china takes over.

If twitter employees opted to work elsewhere when Elon Musk became acting CEO.

Could a similar scenario arise where many TSMC employees will leave the company in the event of the CCP becoming their new bosses.
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