Martingale Betting Strategy on BlackJack, how effective it is?

[Taskford]

martingale requires high patience. and no one can do that.. in the end the casino wins again

true, it requires patience but what martingale's strategy really requires is an extremely huge fund, without it, you'll eventually lose. also, aside from that, online casinos and physical casinos have put a maximum bet rule on their games which further makes the martingale strategy useless.

You need huge funds if you aim to win because for this you can extend your time and make things right when you are in losing side, but actually if you just want to have fun you can use small amount of money and bet minimum amount for sure you will enjoy the game for sure many players do this.

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[Bitinity]

martingale requires high patience. and no one can do that.. in the end the casino wins again

true, it requires patience but what martingale's strategy really requires is an extremely huge fund, without it, you'll eventually lose. also, aside from that, online casinos and physical casinos have put a maximum bet rule on their games which further makes the martingale strategy useless.

Absolutely, even if we have unlimited fund then we will fail while doing martingale strategy once we get a long lose streak and we reach the max bet/profit in the casino. There is no strategy that guarantee us to win in gambling, the only thing that make a strategy works is a luck regardless what game we are playing.

[Reatim]

Am not sure if this is applicable in Black jack but it has been proven that Martingale is only for those who have a Big or huge capital to bet in and small time gamblers wont afford doing it so this is only a limited chances .
and also its not promoted for the majority of gamblers as we knew we are mostly looking for happiness and also for small profit and then go out of the table .

martingale requires high patience. and no one can do that.. in the end the casino wins again

true, it requires patience but what martingale's strategy really requires is an extremely huge fund, without it, you'll eventually lose. also, aside from that, online casinos and physical casinos have put a maximum bet rule on their games which further makes the martingale strategy useless.

Yes, because even if you can be patiently waiting for your win yet you already lose the amount for doubling your bet then this strategy will be over .

[Kelvinid]

martingale requires high patience. and no one can do that.. in the end the casino wins again

true, it requires patience but what martingale's strategy really requires is an extremely huge fund, without it, you'll eventually lose. also, aside from that, online casinos and physical casinos have put a maximum bet rule on their games which further makes the martingale strategy useless.

Absolutely, even if we have unlimited fund then we will fail while doing martingale strategy once we get a long lose streak and we reach the max bet/profit in the casino. There is no strategy that guarantee us to win in gambling, the only thing that make a strategy works is a luck regardless what game we are playing.

As long as there's a house edge, it's hard to win if we are looking for consistency, but if we are lucky, we have to make sure we go all in so we can have a bigger profit. Winning does not happen most of the time in gambling, we are just gamblers, we are not in the position to make money, we spend and casinos are the ones making money, that's very simple.

[Fredomago]

martingale requires high patience. and no one can do that.. in the end the casino wins again

true, it requires patience but what martingale's strategy really requires is an extremely huge fund, without it, you'll eventually lose. also, aside from that, online casinos and physical casinos have put a maximum bet rule on their games which further makes the martingale strategy useless.

Absolutely, even if we have unlimited fund then we will fail while doing martingale strategy once we get a long lose streak and we reach the max bet/profit in the casino. There is no strategy that guarantee us to win in gambling, the only thing that make a strategy works is a luck regardless what game we are playing.

Luck with good self-control. I mean, if you know how to work with luck, you will be able to maximize your profits. Even you have a huge amount of bankroll there's no guarantee that you will be able to win against the house, remember that there's limitation that house implemented for their advantages, once you hit that particular amount you can't continue doubling or increasing your bet.

Which will add frustrations and aggressiveness inside you. Being out of control will favor the house side, un-control betting will lead you to lose your entire bankroll.

[KTChampions]

Luck with good self-control. I mean, if you know how to work with luck, you will be able to maximize your profits. Even you have a huge amount of bankroll there's no guarantee that you will be able to win against the house, remember that there's limitation that house implemented for their advantages, once you hit that particular amount you can't continue doubling or increasing your bet.

Which will add frustrations and aggressiveness inside you. Being out of control will favor the house side, un-control betting will lead you to lose your entire bankroll.

It sounds like if the player keeps his composure it will save his bankroll  The sad truth is that it won't help. The player will lose his deposit in any case (if he makes enough bets) and Martingale will only speed up this process, since when using this system, the risk grows exponentially, and the potential gain does not grow at all.

[virasisog]

martingale requires high patience. and no one can do that.. in the end the casino wins again

true, it requires patience but what martingale's strategy really requires is an extremely huge fund, without it, you'll eventually lose. also, aside from that, online casinos and physical casinos have put a maximum bet rule on their games which further makes the martingale strategy useless.

Absolutely, even if we have unlimited fund then we will fail while doing martingale strategy once we get a long lose streak and we reach the max bet/profit in the casino. There is no strategy that guarantee us to win in gambling, the only thing that make a strategy works is a luck regardless what game we are playing.

Luck with good self-control. I mean, if you know how to work with luck, you will be able to maximize your profits. Even if you have a huge amount of bankroll there's no guarantee that you will be able to win against the house, remember that there are limitations that the house implemented for their advantages, once you hit that particular amount you can't continue doubling or increasing your bet.

Which will add frustrations and aggressiveness inside you. Being out of control will favor the house side, un-control betting will lead you to lose your entire bankroll.

You can be lucky in gambling but no matter what strategy you may apply, you'll still end up losing if you don't know how to control your emotions and limit yourself. We can never beat the house so we should know when to hit our target goal and when to stop for a while. You'll only ruin your gambling journey if you won't put limitations and control. Strategies won't work with too much greed.

[STT]

Martingale is extremely effective if we describe its propagation as an idea, great stuff but as to furthering profits nearly not so much.   Its never convinced me beyond the moments when I first heard of it decades ago sitting in a bar, its simple to describe and pass on as an idea.   Its more of a virus then a profit making system, common appeal.
  The only good use I can think of is to deploy it as some idea attached to advertising or referral bonus system and then maybe its really going to help you get peoples attention and so float your desired objective of getting more customers.

rooted in the idea that you, in theory, will always win eventually.

But the house must be paid so right from the start there is no default right or reasonable expectation in perpetuity to win.   If winning was inevitable perhaps it would be a genius thing.

[TheGreatPython]

Am not sure if this is applicable in Black jack but it has been proven that Martingale is only for those who have a Big or huge capital to bet in and small time gamblers wont afford doing it so this is only a limited chances .
and also its not promoted for the majority of gamblers as we knew we are mostly looking for happiness and also for small profit and then go out of the table .

As long as there is no law which restricts about what strategy you can use in a blackjack on a site that you are playing then you are good to go of applying the method. See if it is really working for you or not but I think it will work on the early tries and when you feel that the losses is getting consistent then maybe that is the time stop playing and comeback again the next day or two.

If you don't have a big capital then you can start with a little as 8 sats per bet as I think lower than that won't trigger the martingale anymore. If you are looking forward on playing to have fun then there is no need to use such strategy as that will only make you bust faster.

[Fredomago]

Luck with good self-control. I mean, if you know how to work with luck, you will be able to maximize your profits. Even you have a huge amount of bankroll there's no guarantee that you will be able to win against the house, remember that there's limitation that house implemented for their advantages, once you hit that particular amount you can't continue doubling or increasing your bet.

Which will add frustrations and aggressiveness inside you. Being out of control will favor the house side, un-control betting will lead you to lose your entire bankroll.

It sounds like if the player keeps his composure it will save his bankroll  The sad truth is that it won't help. The player will lose his deposit in any case (if he makes enough bets) and Martingale will only speed up this process, since when using this system, the risk grows exponentially, and the potential gain does not grow at all.

Yeah right, it will just speed it up but maybe some luck and good control will also give a gambler a chance to enjoy a small amount of earnings if he manage to quit while he still in a profitable side, though in most cases, it's really tough to quit when you feel that luck is already on your side. Martingale system will entice you more to keep betting and keep trying to increase your potential winnings, but once the red losing streak starts to flow, your aggressiveness will always be triggered.

I see your point and I don't have any argument since in reality the kind of outcome mostly happened when using this strategy.

[wxa7115]

OP to be honest I have never applied that strategy to a blackjak game but maybe I can say that the martingale strategy will not be effective in the long term. I wouldn't use that strategy for many occasions but it might be worth a try and get some luck on craps, crashes, or maybe sports betting.

So far I'm not familiar with the martingale strategy, so it's definitely not working for me. But anyway, I think it might be good for some very lucky people if they manage to win on their umpteenth try.

The martingale strategy is simply a bad strategy, there is no way around that, even if for example you were one of the few players which were able to play with an advantage at sports bets if you do not have a strong money management strategy then you will eventually lose it all anyway.

Why? Because as we know there are times in which you are simply unlucky and you lose a lot of times on a row, and if you cannot endure those losses with most of your capital intact then it does not matter if your sport bets strategy is great you will never make any profits with it, and martingale is a strategy that forces you to raise your bet when you are losing, which is precisely the moment you should not do this.

[lionheart78]

Martingale is extremely effective if we describe its propagation as an idea, great stuff but as to furthering profits nearly not so much.   Its never convinced me beyond the moments when I first heard of it decades ago sitting in a bar, its simple to describe and pass on as an idea.   Its more of a virus then a profit making system, common appeal.

True theoretically, the Martingale method is very effective but this is nullified by the house edge, house bet limit, and series of red streaks.  So even with an unlimited bankroll, martingale can't be effectively used because of the house bet limit thus once the succeeding bet hit the betting cap, martingale is automatically nullified.

rooted in the idea that you, in theory, will always win eventually.

But the house must be paid so right from the start there is no default right or reasonable expectation in perpetuity to win.   If winning was inevitable perhaps it would be a genius thing.

Lol, the one you quoted is believed to be a gambler's fallacy and has proven to do no good to a player if the player believes in that theory.  That quotation plus the martingale method= destruction of a player's bankroll.

Luck with good self-control. I mean, if you know how to work with luck, you will be able to maximize your profits. Even you have a huge amount of bankroll there's no guarantee that you will be able to win against the house, remember that there's limitation that house implemented for their advantages, once you hit that particular amount you can't continue doubling or increasing your bet.

Which will add frustrations and aggressiveness inside you. Being out of control will favor the house side, un-control betting will lead you to lose your entire bankroll.

I highly agree, knowing how to work with luck will greatly change the players' gambling outcomes.  Good self-control is really needed because greed always shrouded our reasoning and judgement so we need to control the greed.

[skarais]

The martingale strategy is simply a bad strategy, there is no way around that, even if for example you were one of the few players which were able to play with an advantage at sports bets if you do not have a strong money management strategy then you will eventually lose it all anyway.

Why? Because as we know there are times in which you are simply unlucky and you lose a lot of times on a row, and if you cannot endure those losses with most of your capital intact then it does not matter if your sport bets strategy is great you will never make any profits with it, and martingale is a strategy that forces you to raise your bet when you are losing, which is precisely the moment you should not do this.

I get it, it's bad in the long run and that's why I don't really believe in the only strategy for betting.
Every gambler needs luck to win bets. Skill is only a supporting factor and will not determine victory, so nothing is really good if we only rely on strategy and skill to win bets because luck is the last word that will determine.

[Gozie51]

If you don't have a big capital then you can start with a little as 8 sats per bet as I think lower than that won't trigger the martingale anymore. If you are looking forward on playing to have fun then there is no need to use such strategy as that will only make you bust faster.

It is not to be in doubt that martingale is always for those with high level capital and those ready for risk taking because of their risk taking. Small capital players need to avoid the martingale strategy. You don't double your bet when the first has not been cashed out because you need the capital to continue playing instead lose at a goal.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I am still hesitant about this betting strategy but my rationality thinks it is possible, at least martingale on blackjack is way better than martingale on any luck/chance-based games. How about you what is your thought on Martingale betting strategy used on blackjack? Is it effective for this type of game?

Hesitancy means you are not sure if you have a chance to beat the house edge but you can proceed and check if martingale can help you win, even if its proven thousands of times that doubling your bet or martingale is still a 50/50 chance to win or get busted, people are very persistent in using a martingale, all I know is martingale can excite you but do not use it to challenge the house edge my own experienced in martingale is very worse 15 straight losses wiping all my tokens I've earned from bounty campaign for 4 months in just 5 minutes using this strategy.

Those are already big words, it really is something hard to lose like this because of the martingale, for me it is a strategy that I do not recommend following, however when one plays Black Jack sometimes one tends to forget those airs of prudence, and one risks (more if is having some type of drink) in my case I have lost a lot with this strategy applied to Black Jack and in my beginnings as a player in Dice, which, I don't have good experiences either, I think that for Bj you can take other strategies that provide more security for us as players, and always have foresight not to risk the entire balance so as not to have rages or have bad moments.

[lionheart78]

I am still hesitant about this betting strategy but my rationality thinks it is possible, at least martingale on blackjack is way better than martingale on any luck/chance-based games. How about you what is your thought on Martingale betting strategy used on blackjack? Is it effective for this type of game?

Hesitancy means you are not sure if you have a chance to beat the house edge but you can proceed and check if martingale can help you win, even if its proven thousands of times that doubling your bet or martingale is still a 50/50 chance to win or get busted, people are very persistent in using a martingale, all I know is martingale can excite you but do not use it to challenge the house edge my own experienced in martingale is very worse 15 straight losses wiping all my tokens I've earned from bounty campaign for 4 months in just 5 minutes using this strategy.

I know the fact that Martingale isn't advisable for luck-type games that is why I am hesitant, but I am considering BlackJack as a skill-type game where the outcome of the game is greatly affected by the skill of the player, especially when the deck isn't reshuffled every round.  Those who are good with card counting can fully take advantage of the Martingale betting system because they have a huge chance to know the result on the later round before the card is reshuffled.  But of course, it will be a different story if the card is freshly shuffled every round.

[rahmad2nd]

You need huge funds if you aim to win because for this you can extend your time and make things right when you are in losing side, but actually if you just want to have fun you can use small amount of money and bet minimum amount for sure you will enjoy the game for sure many players do this.

does not guarantee that with a large capital one can turn things around after consecutive losses, we all know, casinos have a maximum limit on each bet. Whether it's playing blackjack, roulette or craps, everything has its limits on each bet. 
if a person has reached the maximum limit due to a losing streak, it is very difficult to recover any losses that have been suffered.

however, on the second point we agree. we can use a little money and bet with a definite minimum amount, in addition to enjoying each round of the game but to avoid bigger losses.

[Fredomago]

You need huge funds if you aim to win because for this you can extend your time and make things right when you are in losing side, but actually if you just want to have fun you can use small amount of money and bet minimum amount for sure you will enjoy the game for sure many players do this.

does not guarantee that with a large capital one can turn things around after consecutive losses, we all know, casinos have a maximum limit on each bet. Whether it's playing blackjack, roulette or craps, everything has its limits on each bet. 
if a person has reached the maximum limit due to a losing streak, it is very difficult to recover any losses that have been suffered.

however, on the second point we agree. we can use a little money and bet with a definite minimum amount, in addition to enjoying each round of the game but to avoid bigger losses.

Yes, and aside from max limit house edge also the big factors of any casino with H.E the cut coming from your bet will be added to your losses even you have a huge amount of capital if you suffer with long losing streak and you reach the limit then house automatically wins against you, unless you got some lucky winning streak and manage to quit before you suffer another losing streak.

That add some enjoyment when playing if you are getting some good result with the strategy that you are using,

but most of the time martingale will only lead you to suffer from huge losses. Better to use your own customize strategy.

[khaled0111]

In theory, the martingale strategy will work for any game where there is a chance of winning. Be it blackjack or any other game, the concept is the same. Every time you lose you double the bet till you hit a win and recover your previous losses plus your initial bet.
But in practice things are totally different. As mentioned in the article you quoted, you may hit a long losing streak which may drain your wallet and the remaining balance will not be enough to place a new bet.

[KTChampions]

In theory, the martingale strategy will work for any game where there is a chance of winning. Be it blackjack or any other game, the concept is the same. Every time you lose you double the bet till you hit a win and recover your previous losses plus your initial bet.
But in practice things are totally different. As mentioned in the article you quoted, you may hit a long losing streak which may drain your wallet and the remaining balance will not be enough to place a new bet.

By the way, the fact that Martingale is a profitable strategy in general sounds doubtful even theoretically. After all, as you know, money has a value. This is a few percent per year (depending on the country) if you took out a loan, then you pay this interest. If you have money but you do not earn money in some way, then you lose this interest. With Martingale, a huge amount of money must be kept in reserve in order to win the minimum initial bet. This means that at a certain cost of the loan, even if you win, you will be at a loss because it would be more efficient to place the money in the bank