Is coinshop24.org a good and legit exchange?

[swogerino]

I am trying to find alternatives to withdraw some of my Bitcoin to my credit card after so many exchanges keep asking really really extremely private details from where you get the money,nevertheless I provided them all needed details and they say status is verifying transaction.

I saw at bestchange.com that when you give Bitcoin you had an option to receive to your credit card,it was a site among many others which I liked their simplicity and is the website in the title of this thread coinshop24.org,I don't mind selling Bitcoin for 21.000 dollars when the actual rate is 23.000 or a bit more but I want to be sure they are no scam,the reviews were all positive but thought before trying to ask the forum as I make no deal without reading some reviews here.

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[OmegaStarScream]

What's the name of the site you first used?

https://www.bestchange.com/coinshop24-exchanger.html

The reviews do look good, but there hasn't been much feedback from users since October of last year basically. I also couldn't find much about it online... so I'm not sure it's a good idea to use it, not with large amounts anyway.

If you want to avoid giving your personal documents in the future, then you should go with LocalCryptos. It's not the fastest way to sell your bitcoin, but it's a good way, and you won't even have to pay for as much as you're planning on doing.

[swogerino]

What's the name of the site you first used?

https://www.bestchange.com/coinshop24-exchanger.html

The reviews do look good, but there hasn't been much feedback from users since October of last year basically. I also couldn't find much about it online... so I'm not sure it's a good idea to use it, not with large amounts anyway.

If you want to avoid giving your personal documents in the future, then you should go with LocalCryptos. It's not the fastest way to sell your bitcoin, but it's a good way, and you won't even have to pay a premium like you're planning on doing.

I don't want to talk about that first site until I receive a final answer from them as I am very curious what their final answer will be that I am expecting tomorrow.I don't care about my documents,any centralized exchange have them,what I 1000% condemn is that those people are asking AML questions for ridiculous amounts of 83-150 USD weekly,basically it can be my signature earnings which this week was 160 USD.I think that this to be used with tendency from the exchange as who in the right mind would launder money with these ridiculous amounts and above all in centralized exchanges,I am greatly disappointed from them as been using them from several years up to now.I know the stupid law that EU put in place and that they have to ask the source of income but I thought that to be for decent amounts.

I am trying at another exchanger there at bestchange who had 10 dollars as a minimum,I will let you know how it goes tomorrow most probably when the order finishes.

Edit:Worked like a charm,it was D-Obmen.cc and it was Ukrainian,by doing so also helping them for the war because they get nice commission from this exchange.World looks good again to me.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I never used it before. Bestchange tries as much as possible to vet exchangers that they partner with, but the tricky part is when that KYC and AML policies come in. Even if the exchanger has good reviews, I think it's better to extensively read the ToS especially parts involving KYC and AML so that as you sign up, you know what kind of exchanger you're dealing with.

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I don't care about my documents,any centralized exchange have them,what I 1000% condemn is that those people are asking AML questions for ridiculous amounts of 83-150 USD weekly,basically it can be my signature earnings which this week was 160 USD.

this often happens when money comes from previously "suspicious" accounts. I had a similar thing with my bank, where I had to answer some very twisted questions such as why the sender received the money that he later transferred to me or who are the other people to whom he sent money...
later I found out that the money came from the account of an offshore company, I guess they were under the microscope from before.

If you already plan to use exchanger from Best_Change I wouldn't hesitate to ask them for advice directly. so far they have seemed accommodating, it's better to ask than to feel sorry for yourself afterwards.

[swogerino]

I don't care about my documents,any centralized exchange have them,what I 1000% condemn is that those people are asking AML questions for ridiculous amounts of 83-150 USD weekly,basically it can be my signature earnings which this week was 160 USD.

this often happens when money comes from previously "suspicious" accounts. I had a similar thing with my bank, where I had to answer some very twisted questions such as why the sender received the money that he later transferred to me or who are the other people to whom he sent money...
later I found out that the money came from the account of an offshore company, I guess they were under the microscope from before.

If you already plan to use exchanger from Best_Change I wouldn't hesitate to ask them for advice directly. so far they have seemed accommodating, it's better to ask than to feel sorry for yourself afterwards.

I already learned a bit to use bestchange and it is great so far,of course my maximum will be in small amounts like the one described above and no people in their right mind should ask for microscopic amounts like this one.Where I live they have the best possible law for money,up to 20.000 dollars no question asked to you where such money come from,it is for 1 year period as they think that this amount is enough to live for one year.I think EU should really start to look at their laws which are going from bad to worse.Definitely staying with bestchange from now on no matter what happens to my open case with the other exchange.

[OmegaStarScream]

I don't want to talk about that first site until I receive a final answer from them as I am very curious what their final answer will be that I am expecting tomorrow.I don't care about my documents,any centralized exchange have them,what I 1000% condemn is that those people are asking AML questions for ridiculous amounts of 83-150 USD weekly,basically it can be my signature earnings which this week was 160 USD.I think that this to be used with tendency from the exchange as who in the right mind would launder money with these ridiculous amounts and above all in centralized exchanges,I am greatly disappointed from them as been using them from several years up to now.I know the stupid law that EU put in place and that they have to ask the source of income but I thought that to be for decent amounts.

I am trying at another exchanger there at bestchange who had 10 dollars as a minimum,I will let you know how it goes tomorrow most probably when the order finishes.

Edit:Worked like a charm,it was D-Obmen.cc and it was Ukrainian,by doing so also helping them for the war because they get nice commission from this exchange.World looks good again to me.

Glad you got this sorted out, but in the future, I would advise you to use something like Paxful. The verification is not as strict as some other exchanges[1] (for the amount you're going to be trading) and just like the website I mentioned earlier, the rates are quite good and you can deal with people in real-time instead of waiting for the website to process the payment. 

[1] https://paxful.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360011638919-Limits-and-Verification

[swogerino]

I don't want to talk about that first site until I receive a final answer from them as I am very curious what their final answer will be that I am expecting tomorrow.I don't care about my documents,any centralized exchange have them,what I 1000% condemn is that those people are asking AML questions for ridiculous amounts of 83-150 USD weekly,basically it can be my signature earnings which this week was 160 USD.I think that this to be used with tendency from the exchange as who in the right mind would launder money with these ridiculous amounts and above all in centralized exchanges,I am greatly disappointed from them as been using them from several years up to now.I know the stupid law that EU put in place and that they have to ask the source of income but I thought that to be for decent amounts.

I am trying at another exchanger there at bestchange who had 10 dollars as a minimum,I will let you know how it goes tomorrow most probably when the order finishes.

Edit:Worked like a charm,it was D-Obmen.cc and it was Ukrainian,by doing so also helping them for the war because they get nice commission from this exchange.World looks good again to me.

Glad you got this sorted out, but in the future, I would advise you to use something like Paxful. The verification is not as strict as some other exchanges[1] (for the amount you're going to be trading) and just like the website I mentioned earlier, the rates are quite good and you can deal with people in real-time instead of waiting for the website to process the payment. 

[1] https://paxful.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360011638919-Limits-and-Verification

Thank you,I will keep that in mind,during all these days through verification I have been searching everywhere for different methods to exchange a bit of my Bitcoin to my Credit/Debit card.As I told you most of the exchangers from Bestchange look good from the reviews and I doubt they have opened their websites to scam people for 100 USD and get a lot of negative reviews,they are getting their share from buying Bitcoin at least 1500-2000 dollars cheaper than the actual price.

The funny thing with my ongoing exchange is they finally after a couple of days verified my crypto deposit and let it through,when I tried to withdraw in dollars to my card after selling the deposit there at the exchange now they are verifying my card and bank account which by the way is 100000% clean as I only get salary payments there from the two jobs I actually work.What the f do they want that they even control another country bank account when their job is to exchange money and that's it,again they should know money laundering is not done in 100-200 dollar chunks.

[coinshop24]

Hello Dear User!
We have been working in the cryptocurrency market for more than three years and have only a positive reputation.
With regards to the AML policy, unfortunately, we are forced to check every incoming cryptocurrency transaction, regardless of the amount.
We hope we have answered your questions.

[YOSHIE]

Hello Dear User!
We have been working in the cryptocurrency market for more than three years and have only a positive reputation.

Not sure what you're talking about, I tried to check some reviews about the coinshop24.org exchange, The negative reputation comes out more than positive, you can see it here: https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/coinshop24.org, I take that as an example.

Positive highlights
√ This website offers payment methods which allow you to get your money back
√ According to Xolphin SSL Check the SSL certificate is valid.
√ This website has existed for quite some years
√ DNSFilter considers this website safe
√ Flashstart did not find any malware of phishing activities

Negative highlights
x The website's owner is hiding his identity on WHOIS using a paid service
x We tested the email address of the registrant, but it is not working
x We tested the technical email address but it is not working
x The email address of the Administrator seems not to work
x This website does not have many visitors
x We detected cryptocurrency services which can be high risk
x Anonymous payment methods were identified on this site

Other reviews also said the same complaint, for I should consider subscribing with your exchange, the risk of problems in the future is higher.

[logfiles]

Hello Dear User!
We have been working in the cryptocurrency market for more than three years and have only a positive reputation.
With regards to the AML policy, unfortunately, we are forced to check every incoming cryptocurrency transaction, regardless of the amount.
We hope we have answered your questions.

But is it fair to ask your customers for KYC verification yet you as an exchange remain anonymous. All information about you seems to be redacted "for privacy" and there is no talk of even a known physical address on your website.

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Negative highlights
x The website's owner is hiding his identity on WHOIS using a paid service
x We tested the email address of the registrant, but it is not working
x We tested the technical email address but it is not working
x The email address of the Administrator seems not to work
x This website does not have many visitors
x We detected cryptocurrency services which can be high risk
x Anonymous payment methods were identified on this site

Other reviews also said the same complaint, for I should consider subscribing with your exchange, the risk of problems in the future is higher.

honestly, this doesn't show much.
For a long time now, all registries offer free WHOIS, it's not a big deal since is enough just to check a box through registration.
the fact that they don't respond to emails does not show a line of professionalism, maybe even the email from the sender ended up in spam, which they didn't check in time.
the number of visits to the site is also not a measure of whether someone is honest.

I'm rather interested in how it is that all the feedbacks on the BestChange page are in Russian. even those that came from non-Russian IP addresses. looks like they used VPN for the fake positive feedback.
https://www.bestchange.ru/coinshop24-exchanger.html

for example: