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Author Topic: [Boxing] Fernando Martinez vs Jerwin Ancajas rematch - Oct.8  (Read 3540 times)
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August 16, 2022, 01:46:24 PM
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Definitely, but he is a warrior and I'm sure he is a tough guy that's why he is asking for the rematch to correct his mistakes and win this fight. As a fan, I will just back him and believe 100% that he will win in this rematch, then maybe wait for the trilogy as most likely that will be the next thing will happen.

He will gonna make it his last fight in his mind in order for him to give his very best here because it's really hard for someone to recover after 2 straight losses and give up some chance to have a big fight such as this one. Their last fight came up with the official's decision and this time he really needs to find a way to knock out his opponent and regain his honor so he can continue his journey to become one of the champions that are popular in their era.

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August 16, 2022, 09:40:39 PM
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^^ We gonna support him no matter what, if he losses again, then so be it. But if by chance he avenge his defeat then he could obviously get the belt back and win it for the Philippines again.

And if they see their mistakes in the first fight and let Ancajas box the way he wants then maybe we can see him winning but it will be a tough battle for sure. As you have said, Martinez now has the confidence an wanted to show that it's no fluke taking the belt from Ancajas.

That confidence will be gone if Ancajas will bounce back and beat him. Well, we can also expect a trilogy as it's not fair if Ancajas will say not for another fight after he beats Martinez, and for me, that will make their rivalry exciting to follow.

Yeah, perhaps a trilogy will be in the horizon if Ancajas win and fans wants more of this matchup. Maybe the picture is that Martinez leads in the scorecard and then Ancajas hit his patented power and knock out Martinez for good to get his belt back.

That will be a scenario waiting for a trilogy to happen. And for Jerwin, he really need to bounce back here, we can call this a 'necessary victory' that needed and before a winner takes all 3rd fight is to happen.

Both camps could pursue a trilogy if in case Ancajas will successfully defeat Martinez this time and grab the belt back to the Philippines but of course if there's some hype for the trilogy because they cannot really sell the fight if there's not much hype around it.
Ancajas should just focus first on this fight before thinking of that trilogy and other things because he might be overwhelmed again by Martinez as the latter is really a heavy hitter as long as you're in his reach.

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August 16, 2022, 09:56:50 PM
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Yup, i have this feeling that he would avenge his loss but just be careful not to put much money on him because we never know the outcome. It's a good thing though that he would be the underdog now because even if we put a small amount, it will win a bit bigger unlike if he is the favorite.
I'm betting on him here, underdog or not, it doesn't matter, what's important is to win and go for a trilogy.

I'm hoping as well, who wouldn't want a trilogy? of course, that will make the fight more interesting, and I'm pretty sure that the promoters are already expecting a big profit on that as the fight are hyped up due to the result of the rematch. If that will happen, I guess Anacajas will gain full confidence and I wouldn't be surprise that he will be the betting favorite.

I believe that Ancajas can redeem and avenge his loss in this rematch because, in the first place, he didn't expect to fight Martinez that time because he was preparing for Ioka. I know that it ain't enough reason because boxers are expected to be versatile and fight back-up boxers if ever their foes are having some problems. But this time, I know he can and for sure I'll also bet on him even if he's an underdog or favorite.

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August 16, 2022, 10:42:30 PM
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I believe that Ancajas can redeem and avenge his loss in this rematch because, in the first place, he didn't expect to fight Martinez that time because he was preparing for Ioka. I know that it ain't enough reason because boxers are expected to be versatile and fight back-up boxers if ever their foes are having some problems. But this time, I know he can and for sure I'll also bet on him even if he's an underdog or favorite.

I don't think that statement should make sense. Regardless if Ancajas is preparing for Ioka, not for Martinez, before, the bottom line is, that he is preparing because there's an upcoming match. Let's stop now giving reasons why Ancajas lose in their first match but instead hope for the best that he can win in this rematch.

I have no way to support Martinez that's why I hope those flaws done by Ancajas in their first match should not be repeated. Jerwin Ancajas should get back his IBF Super Flyweight title that he holds for around 6 years with 10 title defenses. That's his comfort zone.

The title is badly missing him now unless no more interest to stay with him lol.

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August 16, 2022, 10:46:22 PM
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I'm rooting for Ancajas, hoping he will be a champ again.
No odds yet, but for sure Ancajas will be the underdog but a slight underdog only. If you believe that he will bounce back after a big loss, then I'm sure you would be happy seeing an odds high than +200 as definitely that's what you will be seeing as it will be available.

The first fight odds.  (result was a huge upset)
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Fernando Martinez +400
Jerwin Ancajas -600

https://www.sportsbetlistings.com/boxing/jerwin-ancajas-vs-fernando-daniel-martinez-betting-odds-and-prediction/18025/

I agree with you mate, for sure Ancajas will be the slight underdog in this rematch and this may a good opportunity for all Ancajas' supporters to place their bets as he will be giving his all in this fight to take back the belt once he owned.

The fight will happen two months from now and per history, bookies will place the odds for the fight of this magnitude three to two days before it happens.

What do you think, will Ancajas get his revenge and bring back the belt to the Philippines or Martinez will dominate him again? I want to put some spare money for Ancajas though but I'm not that really sure if he can really manage after I looked into their first encounter because it seems that Ancajas was really struggling. I'll be happy to know your thoughts about this mate Grin

I have a gut feeling that Ancajas would avenge his loss but it is not going to be easy as Martinez is now very confident after beating him. The only aspect that i see why Ancajas lost that fight is he was a victim of a replacement spell  Grin. He was training for Ioka but suddenly he was replaced so the mindset of Ancajas might have been affected and he might also taken for granted the capability of Martinez as he was fighting in the lower division than him.

Bottomline, I would be rooting for Ancajas because of his talent, he would not be called the Pretty Boy of the Philippines for nothing and also Philippines needs someone like him to raised the flag of the nation in boxing but then again it would not be an easy path to glory.

Really? I didn't know that, I mean I know Jerwin Ancajas because he is from Cebu but I didn't had the chance to follow his fights and haven't know that Martinez was only a replacement for Ioka.

Now, that paints the picture more clearly why Ancajas was defeated in the first place because part of the reason is that he's preparing for Ioka and not for Martinez. I believe that he will successfully avenge his loss in their first encounter and maybe after that we can have some speculations that these two will have a trilogy and that would be fun to watch.


Actually Ancajas is not from Cebu though he is a bisdak but he came from General Santos if I'm not mistaken, mate. I also don't remember if he was once based in Cebu because if you are a champion boxer and based in Cebu, every little thing that happens to your life will be in the local news here but i have not heard anything about him locally  Smiley.

Yup, i have this feeling that he would avenge his loss but just be careful not to put much money on him because we never know the outcome. It's a good thing though that he would be the underdog now because even if we put a small amount, it will win a bit bigger unlike if he is the favorite.

Yes, my bad because I thought he was born and raised in Cebu Grin but based on boxrec he was born and raised in Panabo City, Davao del Norte as well as wiki.

Anyway back to the fight, I would still support and believe in him that he can avenge his loss this time around. He just made some mistake and Martinez in his first title fight managed to upset the champion. Just like Ugas vs Pacquiao back at the day because the latter expected to fight Spence Jr.

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August 16, 2022, 11:35:35 PM
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Anyway back to the fight, I would still support and believe in him that he can avenge his loss this time around. He just made some mistake and Martinez in his first title fight managed to upset the champion. Just like Ugas vs Pacquiao back at the day because the latter expected to fight Spence Jr.

While on the other hand, Martinez knows already how to play with Ancajas. Not unless the latter has some new moves and strategies to bring out the fight.

For sure, Martinez is just doing some work on how he will improve his last strategy used to defeat Ancajas. He is more of a not too pressured fighter at their training since he does not even feel the struggle in the first match. On the side of Ancajas, the adjustment really need to be big, and coming from a loss, that might make him more pressured to win as he will always remember how Martinez dominates him at most of the rounds on their first meetup.

That is something that Ancajas needs to forget and just focused on the current challenge.
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August 17, 2022, 01:10:39 AM
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Yup, i have this feeling that he would avenge his loss but just be careful not to put much money on him because we never know the outcome. It's a good thing though that he would be the underdog now because even if we put a small amount, it will win a bit bigger unlike if he is the favorite.
I'm betting on him here, underdog or not, it doesn't matter, what's important is to win and go for a trilogy.

I'm hoping as well, who wouldn't want a trilogy? of course, that will make the fight more interesting, and I'm pretty sure that the promoters are already expecting a big profit on that as the fight are hyped up due to the result of the rematch. If that will happen, I guess Anacajas will gain full confidence and I wouldn't be surprise that he will be the betting favorite.

I believe that Ancajas can redeem and avenge his loss in this rematch because, in the first place, he didn't expect to fight Martinez that time because he was preparing for Ioka. I know that it ain't enough reason because boxers are expected to be versatile and fight back-up boxers if ever their foes are having some problems. But this time, I know he can and for sure I'll also bet on him even if he's an underdog or favorite.

Well I would say that sometimes when boxer suddenly have a new opponent, I don't know, but maybe it was because of the trainers that suited that fighter and when they faces a new one, suddenly everything has change that they can't adopt to the style of the new fighters. Not saying that this is an excuse, but we can see boxers highly rated losing this way. The last time was Manny Pacquiao, wo is supposed to face Spence but suddenly was replace by Ugas and obviously, Manny lost that fight already.

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August 17, 2022, 05:49:21 AM
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The last time was Manny Pacquiao, wo is supposed to face Spence but suddenly was replace by Ugas and obviously, Manny lost that fight already.

That was not the reason, whoever trained or coach Manny, he would not won in that fight because he said he has cramps on his legs that bothers him in the fight since he cannot use his quickness. Sometimes, boxers losses, it's just up to them how they'll recover from that loss.

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August 17, 2022, 06:02:10 AM
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Jerwin is seems a good boxer in Philippines Boxing rematch . Jerwin plying seance 2014 it means 8 years including this year. Although the game has not yet started this year.  But the game is going to start after a couple  months.i think  Jerwin can show a better performance in this year also.

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August 17, 2022, 03:25:41 PM
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Anyway back to the fight, I would still support and believe in him that he can avenge his loss this time around. He just made some mistake and Martinez in his first title fight managed to upset the champion. Just like Ugas vs Pacquiao back at the day because the latter expected to fight Spence Jr.

While on the other hand, Martinez knows already how to play with Ancajas. Not unless the latter has some new moves and strategies to bring out the fight.

For sure, Martinez is just doing some work on how he will improve his last strategy used to defeat Ancajas. He is more of a not too pressured fighter at their training since he does not even feel the struggle in the first match. On the side of Ancajas, the adjustment really need to be big, and coming from a loss, that might make him more pressured to win as he will always remember how Martinez dominates him at most of the rounds on their first meetup.

That is something that Ancajas needs to forget and just focused on the current challenge.

Yes, both will adjust for sure, just because you fight a boxer you will know his style in the second fight. What if Martinez suddenly switch stance, can Jerwin train for that?

That's why we see boxers who can really readjust their game plan after reading their opponents. But this boxers are the elite one, Floyd or Terrence Crawford, they have boxing IQ that is not being taught in the gym. Hopefully if Ancajas focus and has the ability to make adjustments, then his chances to win might increased.

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August 17, 2022, 03:58:45 PM
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Jerwin is seems a good boxer in Philippines Boxing rematch . Jerwin plying seance 2014 it means 8 years including this year. Although the game has not yet started this year.  But the game is going to start after a couple  months.i think  Jerwin can show a better performance in this year also.

It will be a challenging match for Jerwin Ancajas but also another opportunity for him to prove himself in the ring and establish a good name in the boxing industry. I've watched some of his previous matches and I must say that he has huge potential but we can't deny the fact that Martinez is also a tough boxer.
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August 17, 2022, 06:43:24 PM
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I believe that Ancajas can redeem and avenge his loss in this rematch because, in the first place, he didn't expect to fight Martinez that time because he was preparing for Ioka. I know that it ain't enough reason because boxers are expected to be versatile and fight back-up boxers if ever their foes are having some problems. But this time, I know he can and for sure I'll also bet on him even if he's an underdog or favorite.

I don't think that statement should make sense. Regardless if Ancajas is preparing for Ioka, not for Martinez, before, the bottom line is, that he is preparing because there's an upcoming match. Let's stop now giving reasons why Ancajas lose in their first match but instead hope for the best that he can win in this rematch.

I have no way to support Martinez that's why I hope those flaws done by Ancajas in their first match should not be repeated. Jerwin Ancajas should get back his IBF Super Flyweight title that he holds for around 6 years with 10 title defenses. That's his comfort zone.

The title is badly missing him now unless no more interest to stay with him lol.

Well, you made your point and I agree with it! Let's just support Ancajas and believe in him without some kind of fuss about his loss against Martinez in their first engagement because that won't amount to anything even if his reasons were true or if he didn't come prepared against Martinez.

The latter was kind of lucky that time because he pulled a victory and upset's Ancajas who held the belt for quite some time. He better avenge his loss though Cool

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August 17, 2022, 07:50:50 PM
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I believe that Ancajas can redeem and avenge his loss in this rematch because, in the first place, he didn't expect to fight Martinez that time because he was preparing for Ioka. I know that it ain't enough reason because boxers are expected to be versatile and fight back-up boxers if ever their foes are having some problems. But this time, I know he can and for sure I'll also bet on him even if he's an underdog or favorite.

I don't think that statement should make sense. Regardless if Ancajas is preparing for Ioka, not for Martinez, before, the bottom line is, that he is preparing because there's an upcoming match. Let's stop now giving reasons why Ancajas lose in their first match but instead hope for the best that he can win in this rematch.

I have no way to support Martinez that's why I hope those flaws done by Ancajas in their first match should not be repeated. Jerwin Ancajas should get back his IBF Super Flyweight title that he holds for around 6 years with 10 title defenses. That's his comfort zone.

The title is badly missing him now unless no more interest to stay with him lol.

Well, you made your point and I agree with it! Let's just support Ancajas and believe in him without some kind of fuss about his loss against Martinez in their first engagement because that won't amount to anything even if his reasons were true or if he didn't come prepared against Martinez.

The latter was kind of lucky that time because he pulled a victory and upset's Ancajas who held the belt for quite some time. He better avenge his loss though Cool

Support is what Ancajas need now from his fans and countrymen, that lost was a part of his past now and he needed to focus now on how he can avenged that and re-gain the title, it's not easy though since Martinez exposed him from that last fight. Ancajas needs more strategy to bring Martinez down and beat him to bring back the belt.

Good time for pinoy fans to bet for Ancajas a kind of showing support for this Filipino fighter.

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Support is what Ancajas need now from his fans and countrymen, that lost was a part of his past now and he needed to focus now on how he can avenged that and re-gain the title, it's not easy though since Martinez exposed him from that last fight. Ancajas needs more strategy to bring Martinez down and beat him to bring back the belt.

Good time for pinoy fans to bet for Ancajas a kind of showing support for this Filipino fighter.

Ancajas should take advantage of his height and reach, he can take the strong punch of Martinez, he just needs to box and dance around the ring.  His error in the first match is brawling with the challenger.  I hope his camp will see this advantage and adjust according to what will give them an advantage over Martinez.

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August 17, 2022, 10:24:50 PM
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Support is what Ancajas need now from his fans and countrymen, that lost was a part of his past now and he needed to focus now on how he can avenged that and re-gain the title, it's not easy though since Martinez exposed him from that last fight. Ancajas needs more strategy to bring Martinez down and beat him to bring back the belt.

Good time for pinoy fans to bet for Ancajas a kind of showing support for this Filipino fighter.

Ancajas should take advantage of his height and reach, he can take the strong punch of Martinez, he just needs to box and dance around the ring.  His error in the first match is brawling with the challenger.  I hope his camp will see this advantage and adjust according to what will give them an advantage over Martinez.

Yes, he thought that he can outslug a brawler, so he fell on Martinez strengths and didn't used his own advantage. That's why I was quite surprised with his strategy in that fight and I said that Jerwin will lose it if he didn't change his style. And unfortunately that what happen. So I'm expecting a different version of Jerwin in this fight. The old Ancajas that loves to box and dance against his opponent and uses his physical to outpoint or even score a tko or ko victory.
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Jerwin Ancajas adjusts nutrition, training for Fernando Martinez rematch

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"The boxing coach of Jerwin Ancajas is making sure they won't make the same mistakes they did in the boxer's first encounter with Fernando Martinez of Argentina".

Clearly, they are pointing out that Ancajas did struggle to catch the weight limit on their first match resulting in his worst and most unusual condition during the fight night. To somehow give a solution to that problem, the team now hires a new nutritionist as Ancajas' consultant for everything about nutrition.

Also stated in the news that they will cut the volume of Jerwin's training as they believed he overtrained Ancajas while preparing for Martinez in their first match. Sounds good to me to just make everything on his usual without putting his body to take the heavy toll right away at the training.

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August 17, 2022, 11:52:27 PM
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Yes, he thought that he can outslug a brawler, so he fell on Martinez strengths and didn't used his own advantage. That's why I was quite surprised with his strategy in that fight and I said that Jerwin will lose it if he didn't change his style. And unfortunately that what happen. So I'm expecting a different version of Jerwin in this fight. The old Ancajas that loves to box and dance against his opponent and uses his physical to outpoint or even score a tko or ko victory.

Changing style is not the best thing to do. There's no need for Jerwin Ancajas to do it.

What he just need is to mentally and physically prepared for the fight. Do everything to become physically fight.

Any style and strategy will do and can be effective as long as the fighter is 100% conditioned as they can execute those properly with that status.
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August 18, 2022, 02:08:04 AM
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Yes, he thought that he can outslug a brawler, so he fell on Martinez strengths and didn't used his own advantage. That's why I was quite surprised with his strategy in that fight and I said that Jerwin will lose it if he didn't change his style. And unfortunately that what happen. So I'm expecting a different version of Jerwin in this fight. The old Ancajas that loves to box and dance against his opponent and uses his physical to outpoint or even score a tko or ko victory.

Changing style is not the best thing to do. There's no need for Jerwin Ancajas to do it.

What he just need is to mentally and physically prepared for the fight. Do everything to become physically fight.

Any style and strategy will do and can be effective as long as the fighter is 100% conditioned as they can execute those properly with that status.

He actually did change his style of his fight against Martinez on the first fight and for me this is the biggest factor why he lost it, as @lionheart78 has said in his post, he adapt to Martinez style of brawling which is not his bread and butter.

So there will be no changing in his style, just his usual boxing will be do. Because all the brawlers he face didn't win against him because he all outbox them.

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August 18, 2022, 06:25:17 AM
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Jerwin is seems a good boxer in Philippines Boxing rematch . Jerwin plying seance 2014 it means 8 years including this year. Although the game has not yet started this year.  But the game is going to start after a couple  months.i think  Jerwin can show a better performance in this year also.

It will be a challenging match for Jerwin Ancajas but also another opportunity for him to prove himself in the ring and establish a good name in the boxing industry. I've watched some of his previous matches and I must say that he has huge potential but we can't deny the fact that Martinez is also a tough boxer.
Jerwin Ancajas is a good name in the Philippine Boxing industry . And I see their potential of winning this time. but Fernando Martinez also a good boxer . Winning with them will also be a tough task . but here also looks like Jerwin Ancajas will win

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August 18, 2022, 09:14:44 AM
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Jerwin is seems a good boxer in Philippines Boxing rematch . Jerwin plying seance 2014 it means 8 years including this year. Although the game has not yet started this year.  But the game is going to start after a couple  months.i think  Jerwin can show a better performance in this year also.

It will be a challenging match for Jerwin Ancajas but also another opportunity for him to prove himself in the ring and establish a good name in the boxing industry. I've watched some of his previous matches and I must say that he has huge potential but we can't deny the fact that Martinez is also a tough boxer.
Jerwin Ancajas is a good name in the Philippine Boxing industry . And I see their potential of winning this time. but Fernando Martinez also a good boxer . Winning with them will also be a tough task . but here also looks like Jerwin Ancajas will win

He was a champion, got dethrone when Martinez beat him, so he is not trying to reclaim his belt, this rematch is a must win for him, otherwise, he cannot be a champion anymore in the same division and he has to move up in weight.

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