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July 28, 2022, 09:09:11 PM
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Yes, we have to manually sign up anyone who wants it. The funding would be a BTC address provided to you (or other crypto) that would also be manually applied to your account. This is all done manually for our mutual safety.

To change password, again, you would have to contact us and we would change the password manually.
I don't see anything to do with mutual safety here, let alone trust, except even more risk for the customer to lose money if the agent gets compromised. I mean, be honest, would you send let's say 1 BTC to an address provided by some stranger online who supposedly opened for you an account on a certain site?

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July 28, 2022, 10:20:05 PM
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Though I m trying to comprehend what OP is saying about something "Account must be created by an agent" does this mean you have to sign up for anyone who wants it? And would you do the funding or who else does the funding maybe if possible after creating the account can someone changes back his password if he wants to?
Please I need a feedback.

Yes, we have to manually sign up anyone who wants it. The funding would be a BTC address provided to you (or other crypto) that would also be manually applied to your account. This is all done manually for our mutual safety.

To change password, again, you would have to contact us and we would change the password manually.

There is no registration link whatsoever.

Agreed, it is all about trust, that is why we hope to build trust over time in this forum. All we can do is attempt to provide our services and hopefully users will be honest about our fast payments, etc.

How does you doing everything on our behalf manually impose mutual safety exactly? There is nothing mutual about the agent having all the information of the end user, and the end user just feeding money to the account and playing on it. The agent and the platform benefits from all of this, never the end user because they don't have any say on what's going to happen on the account. For all we know, the agent can just get the deposit of the player and not deposit it manually if the amount is so big. Every single thing about this 'agent system' in today's world is just screaming red flags all over the place for me.

Any of these objections could apply to a normal site as well. How do you know a site isn't going to just keep your deposit since it is so big? It all comes down to trust, and we look forward to building trust in the community
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July 28, 2022, 10:29:32 PM
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Welcome to Bitcointalk.org

Another sports bookie. Before one getting to try your services, you would need to tame the wild stag in the forum. And they are not easy to tame. Its about building a reputation here. This is how to compete with the established bookies. Also I couldn't find the registration link. Maybe because I'm using my tablet.
This isn't just a sport book but it's clearly written in the title that it's also a casino and then a racebook but racebook seriously?Didn't know there's such thing and it's also separated to a sportsbook? Because in most sportsbook they already have racing games on them. Indeed that it's not easy to tame people here because all of us here are wise.

We won't just try a new casino without a condition but there might be some who will get curious immediately especially if the gambling site offers something unique. There is no registration link but if you want to have an account here you need to contact the op. That is what I understand upon reading some comments.

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July 29, 2022, 01:34:43 AM
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I'm not sure though, many of us doesn't want to go to an agent to be able to create an account isn't it?

Of course agent will make money from us we understand that, it's business after all. But in gambling, specially crypto bettors, this will not sit well, just saying.

In any case, welcome to the community. Curious though, what if someone what's to become an agent? (sorry if this has been answered already).

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I'm not sure though, many of us doesn't want to go to an agent to be able to create an account isn't it?

Of course agent will make money from us we understand that, it's business after all. But in gambling, specially crypto bettors, this will not sit well, just saying.

In any case, welcome to the community. Curious though, what if someone what's to become an agent? (sorry if this has been answered already).

Sure, you as an agent would handle everything, then pass funds up to the higher agent (me). Then request funds from me if winner. You would keep the 20% commission in this case, every week



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July 30, 2022, 12:28:04 PM
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As some of the posters above have noted, it doesn't seem likely that this site will attract a lot of gamblers. The selection of games isn't particularly impressive and the site looks bland and uninspiring. It's possible that this might grow, but for the moment it looks to be a long way from the must-visit gambling sites. You say "we have all your favorite games" but that's not really the case, is it? I don't see any of my popular slots.

As for the registration process, I have never seen a casino that requires users to register through an agent. It doesn't feel particularly safe to me that someone else has access to our access information.

By the way, OP, stop making multiple posts in the row. This is against the forum rules.

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As some of the posters above have noted, it doesn't seem likely that this site will attract a lot of gamblers. The selection of games isn't particularly impressive and the site looks bland and uninspiring. It's possible that this might grow, but for the moment it looks to be a long way from the must-visit gambling sites. You say "we have all your favorite games" but that's not really the case, is it? I don't see any of my popular slots.

As for the registration process, I have never seen a casino that requires users to register through an agent. It doesn't feel particularly safe to me that someone else has access to our access information.

By the way, OP, stop making multiple posts in the row. This is against the forum rules.


their registration process won't get interest anymore in today's setting in gambling business. we are already used to signing up directly and not by third party agent anymore. is this the reason why there is no sign up button but log in only? i don't think they can get players here if that is the case.
i don't know the role of the OP here, but definitely they should change this approach, otherwise, don't expect that they will get players from the forum.

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As some of the posters above have noted, it doesn't seem likely that this site will attract a lot of gamblers. The selection of games isn't particularly impressive and the site looks bland and uninspiring. It's possible that this might grow, but for the moment it looks to be a long way from the must-visit gambling sites. You say "we have all your favorite games" but that's not really the case, is it? I don't see any of my popular slots.

As for the registration process, I have never seen a casino that requires users to register through an agent. It doesn't feel particularly safe to me that someone else has access to our access information.

By the way, OP, stop making multiple posts in the row. This is against the forum rules.


their registration process won't get interest anymore in today's setting in gambling business. we are already used to signing up directly and not by third party agent anymore. is this the reason why there is no sign up button but log in only? i don't think they can get players here if that is the case.
i don't know the role of the OP here, but definitely they should change this approach, otherwise, don't expect that they will get players from the forum.

I don't know what you want me to do. The site is designed such that this is the only way to register. I literally can't change it. If you don't want to play, that's fine. There is no obligation, just like bitcoin, it is all voluntary.
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Yes, we have to manually sign up anyone who wants it. The funding would be a BTC address provided to you (or other crypto) that would also be manually applied to your account. This is all done manually for our mutual safety.

To change password, again, you would have to contact us and we would change the password manually.
I don't see anything to do with mutual safety here, let alone trust, except even more risk for the customer to lose money if the agent gets compromised. I mean, be honest, would you send let's say 1 BTC to an address provided by some stranger online who supposedly opened for you an account on a certain site?

Admin you need to think about this.
Previously I had also the same doubt regarding registration and account creation.
Until and unless you fix this issue of creation of an account through a third party, no people will show interest to join the casino.
If you can’t fix this then really feeling sad for the owner who can’t afford a great developer to make this changes.
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July 31, 2022, 09:35:06 AM
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I don't know what you want me to do. The site is designed such that this is the only way to register. I literally can't change it. If you don't want to play, that's fine. There is no obligation, just like bitcoin, it is all voluntary.

So you are not the owner of the site? Are you one of the agents? Who decided on such a stupid registration method?
And don't get all defensive now. The reason you came here is to promote your business, so we are entitled to ask you questions about it. If you don't want to answer, that's fine. There is no obligation...

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Ahh another site that asking new members to sign up first in order to see the site feature and offers, I will never register such sites with particular shady way to get email and password from new members, moreover the sites doesn't have any reputation. Actually I doubt the sites is created from 2019 and have a long term gamblers until now, because there's nothing can make me interest to check the inside of this site.

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We don't ask for an email, you can get all your info thru encrypted messages here.

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Accounts must be created by an agent, only. This is the only way to do it with this site, because it is an agent-based site. We have PGP, so all messages can be encrypted.

This is a guaranteed way to scare away many gamblers from using your casino. The lack of convenience and having to deal with such a "middleman". Does your casino support KYC. Who the hell would give his private data to an agent?
Having a Costa Rica license is something I don't see very often. Most crypto casinos have a Curacao license.
The website looks decent, but I don't think that many people would be interested in betting on baseball games.
I like the idea of having a 20% bonus on a losing streak, but I won't bother signing up on your casino in order to test it out.
Do you plan of creating a normal signup process?

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Accounts must be created by an agent, only. This is the only way to do it with this site, because it is an agent-based site. We have PGP, so all messages can be encrypted.

This is a guaranteed way to scare away many gamblers from using your casino. The lack of convenience and having to deal with such a "middleman". Does your casino support KYC. Who the hell would give his private data to an agent?
Having a Costa Rica license is something I don't see very often. Most crypto casinos have a Curacao license.
The website looks decent, but I don't think that many people would be interested in betting on baseball games.
I like the idea of having a 20% bonus on a losing streak, but I won't bother signing up on your casino in order to test it out.
Do you plan of creating a normal signup process?

We are a super high ranking agent and very close to the owners. Essentially we are part-owners. So it isn't really a "middleman" like you describe.

Once you get used to it, it is quite normal and everything goes very smoothly. The reason for the Costa Rica license is the site is based in Costa Rica. You can verify this by calling the phone number. The phone number can also be used to call in sports bets.

The 20% bonus when losing is certainly very popular, and one of our best features, hopefully you or others will be willing to try it out. Unfortunately, none of our other clients have a bitcointalk account currently, though some have had one in the past.

The problem with a normal sign up process is we have a limited number of accounts, so an automatic sign-up would give us problems if someone came on and tried to make thousands of accounts. It opens us up to attacks via that method, and then ransom possibilities from malicious parties. So, you can understand why we must do it this way.

If preferred, one could post their public key publicly in this thread, and then we could encrypt the username and password and post it in here as well, so wouldn't even need to do private messaging.

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I think op offer pre gambling for there users but i think it is not safe for us . I support them if they offer free games for pre playing if they ask for deposit for pre players then i think users will never test there games anymore . So there games must be free then i will also attend on there games


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Why you will need to manually sign-up players while you can do it like the normal way. I only experience this kind of account registration on my local e-gambling that has no license at all because they want to control the players accessibility to the website so that authorities will not gonna bust them without being notice by them. This service is very inconvenient while there’s a lot of popular casino available that offer most of your games.

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Just a FYI

I also have had this same book being a agent in my own town, he does not own it lol you pay $6 per player to have access to add anyone you want to the site. I would be VERY CAREFUL trusting this
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Why you will need to manually sign-up players while you can do it like the normal way. I only experience this kind of account registration on my local e-gambling that has no license at all because they want to control the players accessibility to the website so that authorities will not gonna bust them without being notice by them. This service is very inconvenient while there’s a lot of popular casino available that offer most of your games.

Just answered this, it is for security:
"The problem with a normal sign up process is we have a limited number of accounts, so an automatic sign-up would give us problems if someone came on and tried to make thousands of accounts. It opens us up to attacks via that method, and then ransom possibilities from malicious parties. So, you can understand why we must do it this way."

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I also have had this same book being a agent in my own town, he does not own it lol you pay $6 per player to have access to add anyone you want to the site. I would be VERY CAREFUL trusting this
Yes we admitted we don't own it. And yes it costs money to activate an account that is why we don't offer free play. Thanks, obv be very careful trusting this site or ANY of the sites in this forum. All of them could easily have the same risk. Thanks for your comments
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