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August 06, 2022, 09:27:54 PM
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If it was your sister would you buy it now and gift it down the road out of love or would you take the hard stance?

It depends greatly on the relation with the sister. Even more, that relation can change over time. So I will not give a direct answer.

However, as stated, she has kids, she is clearly not doing great, and you know that the main rule is to invest only you afford to lose.
I will add that even if you award her bitcoin and you teach her everything, she may try to sell when she gets into deeper hardship or she sees the price falling and gets scared.

Maybe you make a plan and give her the access to those bitcoins when the kids get to a certain age when she needs/they need more money for their education. So you'll make a present not for her, but for your nephews. It can sort out your dilemma.
If you are in doubt gifting your sister with bitcoin, then just save them for your nephews, that way it will be more valuable. However, I also understand your sister as being a single mother is hard, raising his two kids from his own sweat and hardwork. But still, if she is really determined to save so she can invest in bitcoin, regardless of the amount, she can always do it no matter how small her income. Gifting her is not wrong, but those bitcoin will be more useful for her kids’ bright future.
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August 06, 2022, 09:38:32 PM
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Honestly, I'm not sure if he could manage to hold and risk more. It was to think that investing in Bitcoin is good advice but for some reason, this isn't suitable for everyone. Imagine that your sister is even hard to keep $5 a week, I could assume that after you give some sats to her, she gonna sell them all.

Let us accept that investing in Bitcoin isn't for everyone, neither urge your sister, your brother, or any of your family members, we also have to consider their capacity.
A lot of people would want to invest in bitcoin because of its growing value overtime, but not all can sustain the patience and persistency to hold bitcoin when there is already a big crash happening or when emergency arise. Some would definitely sell and others would remain hodling them. However, in your sister’s case, looks like she’ll fall being a weak hand. She’s certainly not a pro investor so I don’t think she can manage to make those bitcoin grow. Just reserve them for your nephews, they will needing good finances in the future. If their mother can’t provide it for them, at least you are there willing to help them.

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August 06, 2022, 09:51:54 PM
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Honestly, I'm not sure if he could manage to hold and risk more. It was to think that investing in Bitcoin is good advice but for some reason, this isn't suitable for everyone. Imagine that your sister is even hard to keep $5 a week, I could assume that after you give some sats to her, she gonna sell them all.

Let us accept that investing in Bitcoin isn't for everyone, neither urge your sister, your brother, or any of your family members, we also have to consider their capacity.
A lot of people would want to invest in bitcoin because of its growing value overtime, but not all can sustain the patience and persistency to hold bitcoin when there is already a big crash happening or when emergency arise. Some would definitely sell and others would remain hodling them. However, in your sister’s case, looks like she’ll fall being a weak hand. She’s certainly not a pro investor so I don’t think she can manage to make those bitcoin grow. Just reserve them for your nephews, they will needing good finances in the future. If their mother can’t provide it for them, at least you are there willing to help them.
^ That is definitely a good idea, at least you will help them when it comes to financial matters in the future when they are going to college which is they need financial support. I read the OP story and it seems since his sister has two kids, it is impossible to have free money to invest and I just wanted to know how much monthly income that she can afford to save aside $5 a week for the BTC investing. I don't think it will work if you let her handle your BTC, it is good if you will hold the wallet and give her at the right time when she needed it most.
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August 06, 2022, 10:16:12 PM
Last edit: August 08, 2022, 09:37:41 AM by mprep
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Yep, thats exactly what I did, I transferred some of mine over to the wallet that Im holding for her. 1,000,000 sats is only a few hundred bucks now, but over the long term may be significantly more. I will save it for the kids for when they graduate and beyond or need me. After running a BTC profit calculator, I'm not sure its even enough to split between 3 kids 20 years from now. Anyway, point is, I'll leave it for the kids unless of course one day sis becomes a bitcoin bull. Never know.



I think this story lacks some context. Firstly, financial context. Are you significantly more well-off than your sister, especially considering that she has to provide for 2 children? If you are (and from other posts it looks like you are), then I think you should buy up and gift the .01 BTC to her on a special occasion (birthday?) or when you can see she's in a hard place and needs a win. If you aren't and she can't set money aside on Bitcoin because she doesn't believe in Bitcoin anymore, then I don't think it matters much, and you can just give her the current hardware wallet. Also, I don't like the whole "I would be keeping custody" thing and giving it years later. It's very patronizing, and also anti-Bitcoin because one should always store one's own keys and rely on nobody else. I'd be mad if someone told me that someone has money for me but would keep control of it and not let me get it for years to come. If she doesn't know and it's a secret, then it's a different story and hodling it for now, so that you can give her much more later when the value grows makes sense.
In any case, you shouldn't push anyone to investing money. Like others pointed out, if she has two kids and can't afford to save up to invest in BTC, she's doing the right and responsible thing by not investing what she can't afford to lose.

NoNo, I would never tell her that I have money for her and then hold it hostage. LOL, she doesnt know anything. I never pushed her to invest in BTC either, just told her about it and told her what it was and made the suggestion to put some $ aside if she could. I planted the seed but have left her alone about it since. She did show interest at the time and I let her make her own decision from there. I dont do pressure campaigns and maybe she plans to but going about it a different way. I dunno. I'll give it to the kids later in their adulthood for college or first home down payment or to my sister to assist in her retirement or whatever they want to use it for. Or they all turn into a bitcoin bull and just hodl it. LOL. Either way, Im sharing the blessing of the worlds hardest asset.



I think this story lacks some context. Firstly, financial context. Are you significantly more well-off than your sister, especially considering that she has to provide for 2 children? If you are (and from other posts it looks like you are), then I think you should buy up and gift the .01 BTC to her on a special occasion (birthday?) or when you can see she's in a hard place and needs a win. If you aren't and she can't set money aside on Bitcoin because she doesn't believe in Bitcoin anymore, then I don't think it matters much, and you can just give her the current hardware wallet. Also, I don't like the whole "I would be keeping custody" thing and giving it years later. It's very patronizing, and also anti-Bitcoin because one should always store one's own keys and rely on nobody else. I'd be mad if someone told me that someone has money for me but would keep control of it and not let me get it for years to come. If she doesn't know and it's a secret, then it's a different story and hodling it for now, so that you can give her much more later when the value grows makes sense.
In any case, you shouldn't push anyone to investing money. Like others pointed out, if she has two kids and can't afford to save up to invest in BTC, she's doing the right and responsible thing by not investing what she can't afford to lose.

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August 06, 2022, 11:26:34 PM
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If I were you, it's better to help your brother in finances so that his needs are met,
where are the children's fathers?
if he still has a husband even though he is divorced and the husband is still alive, there really is no need to worry where the responsibility of the child is the husband's responsibility in all matters concerning the child.
and even if you want to give bitcoin to your sister, you just have to keep it, give it when you really need it and that too is in the form of fiat, not bitcoin

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August 06, 2022, 11:47:03 PM
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If I were you, it's better to help your brother in finances so that his needs are met,
where are the children's fathers?
if he still has a husband even though he is divorced and the husband is still alive, there really is no need to worry where the responsibility of the child is the husband's responsibility in all matters concerning the child.
and even if you want to give bitcoin to your sister, you just have to keep it, give it when you really need it and that too is in the form of fiat, not bitcoin
Agreed, apart from all those things there is always a sister brother relationship. In that stance he have taken the responsibility and willing to do the best of his ability. According to me, understand the interest of your sister and try to educate her about cryptocurrencies. Surely she'll find ways to meet her financial needs and start saving $5+ every week in the form of bitcoin.

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August 07, 2022, 05:26:13 PM
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In my opinion you should give her he hardware wallet instantly and teach her ho to use it. The teaching can be done in one day, and then she can decide if she spends the bitcoin (unlikely from what you say) or even put more in there. If you keep the wallet for her, that would be enough of an issue for me that I would not save more bitcoin. Because as it was said million times, not your keys, not your coins. And relations change.

We can only do the best thing is exactly teach her what we know. Eventually, it will boost her confidence and create her courage to buy Bitcoin. We can't force her to save or spend money, but if she is ready to learn about this, then we should support her, otherwise no one can judge her decisions.

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