Influence of "Paid" Streamers on Online gambling.....

[coin-investor]

Just to make something clear .... not all Streamers of gambling content are "Paid" streamers or affiliates of casinos.... some use their own money. (Example : Syztmz)

These are the kind of streamers worth following, they tell us the truth and they are transparent and they are not biased about what they are streaming

Can a "Paid" streamer or an expert from a casino... please help with some factual inputs, so that we can clear up any misconceptions?

I seldom watch streamers I prefer the discussion here in BItcointalk, independent streamers are like us they lose money and make a profit, but it's different for paid streamers  I read that some paid streamers are manipulating their results because they are paid to shill casino that paid them to shill.
When it comes to trust in gambling you should put it to someone who is not paid to shill, you cannot extract the truth from these streamers.

[Rruchi man]

... not all Streamers of gambling content are "Paid" streamers or affiliates of casinos.... some use their own money.

It is definitely the reason why there are streamers and paid streamers, the distinction is clearly in the name. If you have no affiliation with any casino and use your own money, the person is just a streamer, but if you are somehow been assisted by a casino either financially or with free spins, the person is a paid streamer.

People are also saying that "Paid" streamers are basically "sweeping" all money that are being played by others on those specific slots. (You often hear people saying... "I cannot play XXX Slot now, because streamer YYY won big on that Slot)

People say a lot of things, you just have to be aware that even though many people may say the same thing, it doesn't mean they are always correct and you should always try to find out the truth for yourself, and that's all I can say.

[qwertyup23]

This actually depends on the streamer if they are affiliated with the said gambling website.

I remember back in the days, various YouTubers streamed and advertised a specific gambling website. But in reality, they were affiliated and had a stake on it. The owner of the website also seemed to provide him with limitless funds in order to deceive the public into showing that the chances of winning are high.

Though this might be the case, there are only a few streamers who actually gamble using their own funds. I think this is a case where a streamer just enjoys the act of gambling. He does not care whether the company chooses to pay him to advertise or not; what matters is that he/she gambles.

[coupable]

I personally do not trust streamers i general (either paid or not) and do not advise the rest to follow their advice even if they know them personally.
The streamers who promote sites that they are not sure of their credibility and have not tried them enough, or at least check the available reviews about them.
Lately I have been following the case of Bitlucy, a scammer casino that mainly relied for its propaganda on these streamers who only care about who pays them the most. One of them was said that he had won thousands of dollars and was able to withdraw them to his wallet, while the platform at the time did not have a payment system working at all. This led to great losses for users, especially since the promotion was for the bonuses that the user would get for the first deposit .

[Alanaz]

I don't really know about the big streamers there but maybe in this case I want to reflect on the streamers on slot sites in my country who really do get paid for it.
Some of them even said quite clearly that their account was indeed shared by the provider site to be played and it looked like it was real even though it was just a setting that it was as if they got a lot of money there even though it was a pseudo thing that indeed the victory had already been won. settings and money in the account cannot be withdrawn.
Surprisingly even though there are some things like that already said even from the streamer but there are still naive people who are still there.

[serjent05]

How does the "Paid" Streamers ..influence other gamblers experience?

Paid streamers have a great influence over their audience.  Aside from showing the specifics of a game, and the casino promotion, they also enticed viewers to try the game with their referral code.  Streamers wether will always have an influence on the gambling experience of other people;

About a paid streamer winning huge, I do not think it has an effect on the game since the game result is always random.

[Wakate]

This has been a contentious issue and a common discussion under online gambling for a long time... and I want us to talk about this too. 

This is not a new thing that many of these streamers are being paid by casinos to influence other gamblers through their winnings. This is a other revenue opportunity for successful streamers to earn big through what they know best.

How does the "Paid" Streamers ..influence other gamblers experience? So, the common assumption is that "Paid" streamers basically have limitless funds that are paid by the casinos.

They are paid streamers and through their impressive results, other gamblers are trigged to join the same gambling platform and place bettings. How it works is, streamers posts there results on social platforms and when people see it they can be influenced to make some betting on the gambling site.

 

[Finestream]

We should invite streamers we know to know if they are getting paid by the casino or using their own funds to gamble.
This will certainly clear up any misconceptions but regardless if it is a paid streamer or an unpaid streamer, it is the gambler's responsibility if it is about gambling.
Here we play gambling and it uses our money so if we see the streamers win multiple times or win a lot, we have to think that luck may be with them or they benefit from the casino because they get paid.
As far as I know, they serve content for viewers and if anyone joins through the threads they provide, those streamers earn extra money apart from the money they get from video uploading sites like Youtube and maybe some extra money from the casino.
Whether it is paid or not will depend on how we judge them and I don't think it's a misunderstanding.

The advantage of being paid streamers is that despite if they lose in the games, they still manage to get profits from the casino owner so they never go home empty handed. Unlike for most of the gamblers, they are self providers so they should always consider gambling at their own risk. Lucky or not, gambling should never be tolerated and should only gamble for the allocated funds, otherwise you will suffer badly from all your losses. Streamers whether paid or not, I believe they still gamble with luck along.

[virasisog]

How does the "Paid" Streamers ..influence other gamblers experience?

Paid streamers have a great influence over their audience.  Aside from showing the specifics of a game, and the casino promotion, they also enticed viewers to try the game with their referral code.  Streamers wether will always influence the gambling experience of other people;

About a paid streamer winning huge, I do not think it affects the game since the game result is always random.

They're the ones who could attract and temp their audience to play and gamble as they uplift the site that they're promoting. They do it for their benefit regardless of the legitimacy of the site. They also make their audience believe that the site could make them have continuous winnings which can create false hope. They can deceive and influence their audiences to have misconceptions about the site.

[BitcoinAccepted]

Influencers are known for being hired by such sites to promote their gambling site. There is nothing wrong with that in itself. That is the type of revenue model. I once read an article with which amounts these people earn. Judging by that data, we can safely conclude that the influence of an influencer on the gambling world is enormous. Gamblers have more confidence when they see a well-known streamer or influencer playing on a gambling site and especially when they see that large sums of money are won there. In the end, it is just a matter of trust.

[carlfebz2]

Let's discuss.... and enjoy this thread please. 

These are purely misconceptions because if we are talking fairness and its been applied naturally on all players on a certain provider then it would really be having equal chances or odds on winning a game.

It doesnt matter if you are funded or using sponsored money or making use of real funds came from your pocket.It would really be just a natural concept if you do win big the its understandable that on the other side

there are people who are losing that much and same goes when a streamer losses then there are people who are winning on the other side.It would really be just a common sense
considering this is how gambling works on a fair way.

[Hispo]

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I remember a case from some years ago about a Youtuber which promoted a Counter Strike gambling webpage. He recorded himself gambling and eventually winning thousands of dollars in skins for Counter Strike, it turns out he owned the website and he ommited that information on purpose.
There is nothing wrong about an influencer promoting gambling services, but they should avoid putting themselves in situations which would result in serious backlash from their viewers and the rest of the community of influencers.

In general, I have noticed that Youtubers which are mostly into videogames promote services to adquire games and codes at discount rather than gambling services, and those who promote gambling services, do so with those that have something to do with videogames, like the example I just gave with Counter Strike gambling.

[coolcoinz]

I don't believe that paid streamers ruin the experience for others by jinxing the game, siphoning funds, or making it somehow harder for other people to win.
Those who have a deal with casinos have their accounts on special treatment like if they go into large debt and lose a lot of games they don't have to pay it back, but usually they're given an amount of money to spend and if they go over the limit that's coming from their own pocket. I don't feel like the games are rigged in any way so that streamers can win. Streamers also lose.

[Lanatsa]

I don't believe that paid streamers ruin the experience for others by jinxing the game, siphoning funds, or making it somehow harder for other people to win.
Those who have a deal with casinos have their accounts on special treatment like if they go into large debt and lose a lot of games they don't have to pay it back, but usually they're given an amount of money to spend and if they go over the limit that's coming from their own pocket. I don't feel like the games are rigged in any way so that streamers can win. Streamers also lose.

I dont really believe also because we are just all players whether you are a streamer or not it would really be just on equal chance whether you do win or not because if thats the case that there's some
imbalance or rigging up odds or chances of winning then the provider would be the one who would really be taking the blame and since people are really that keen on seeing odd things or something
not right or somethings wrong then be prepared on answering up those questions and able to answer or prove out that there's no fairness issue happening because
if it does then it would really be affecting reputation overall.

[goaldigger]

Streamers makes money by streaming and they can earn more if they enter into a partnership with those casinos so maybe some scammer will use their own money first but if they get the attention of the site they are playing probably there’s a chance for them to enter into a contract which benefits both parties.

We actually don’t know since some streamers are not disclosing this one. You can stream even if you are not paid by the site, its really up to you especially if you are a real gambler and that’s your content.

[chaser15]

The discussion about being an "influencer" is subjective to me.

There are cases where viewers just follow a specific streamer, not because of gambling content but maybe they really followed that streamer for long regardless of the content. It means since they know deeply the streamer, all of its content will get support no matter what the subject is.

There are also cases where viewers follow a specific steamer because of giveaways but in return, these people are not actually playing on a gambling site that is featured on that streamer's content.

For me, there's no need for any deep discussion about this but just enjoy the content of the streamer we want to follow.

[darkangel11]

We cannot put them all in one basket. There are more shady casinos that have and will pay streamers and cover all their expenses and even rig their games to lure players in with promises of easy money.

That said, there will be streamers who make money from donations on twitch and spend those donations in casinos and the businesses don't even know they'll be playing their games. I prefer streamers who don't have sponsorships but do it for fun.

[johhnyUA]

Just to make something clear .... not all Streamers of gambling content are "Paid" streamers or affiliates of casinos.... some use their own money. (Example : Syztmz)

I doubt that such streamers exists in significant numbers. Most of streamers is paid by casino to promote it service. Or to dishwash money from columbian cocaine leaders 

On the flip side of the coin..... Some people believe that "Paid" streamers are actually "feeding" or "funding" other people's large wins. They can only "sweep" other peoples funds, when they win.... if someone else win before them... the opposite happens... right?

This is wrong, because most of such streamers, at least in such countries as russia, play with a fake money given to them by casino. This money doesn't affect jack-pot probability to other gamblers.

[Johnyz]

Influencers are known for being hired by such sites to promote their gambling site. There is nothing wrong with that in itself. That is the type of revenue model. I once read an article with which amounts these people earn. Judging by that data, we can safely conclude that the influence of an influencer on the gambling world is enormous. Gamblers have more confidence when they see a well-known streamer or influencer playing on a gambling site and especially when they see that large sums of money are won there. In the end, it is just a matter of trust.

Influencers usually picky on choosing what to advertise since this can ruin their reputation if they introduce bad projects and that’s why they focused on their income from streaming than to have a partnership with any project, that means they can play whatever they like without any pressure of getting bashed because they didn’t advertise at all. If some streamers advertised a site or a project then it’s ok because that is extra money for them and we should not always depend on those advertisements, we should still analyze on our own and know if the site is really ok to use or not at all.

[iv4n]

Well, for sure they don't influence me!

Jokes on a side, I can consider myself old in some way, and I don't find these paid streams interesting! But apparently, young people and minors are watching these streams and they believe that playing slots can make them rich! And that is a problem! Slots are a special gambling game, simply said it's a crazy game, and it's not good to get into slots if you don't know what's waiting for you! Big wins happen, but not so often as paid streamers show it, and for sure before "the big win" you can spend an equal fortune, or even more!

There are some cool streamers that are playing with normal stakes, and while they stream they often talk about how playing slots is all about luck, they inform people that people should not risk more then they can afford to lose when it comes to gambling, especially when it comes to slots! But youngsters don't like that, they like big stakes and big wins... it's why paid streamers have more followers and make more damage!