Influence of "Paid" Streamers on Online gambling.....

[serjent05]

Not a huge fan of online gaming and gambling streamers, but one thing I've noticed is that they are not paid by anyone or any big companies especially when they're still building their reputation and viewers. Once they acquire huge audience, that's where companies starts offering you handsome amount to use their website. Online gambling companies and the streamer can easily deny that they don't have any partnership or connections.
So, nobody is really certain whether or not these gamblers were just plainly advertising the website or taking advantage of their clients.

I agree, so whenever we are seeing streamers that have only thousands of subscribers or followers, we are sure that they are not paid for their gambling streams and are not sponsored by the casino they are playing with.  If ever they have benefited it is thru referral commission if ever they had referred an active player.

So, nobody is really certain whether or not these gamblers were just plainly advertising the website or taking advantage of their clients.

It is clear that they wanted to take advantage of their viewers by enticing them to register in the Casino through their referral code.

[DoublerHunter]

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People are also saying that "Paid" streamers are basically "sweeping" all money that are being played by others on those specific slots. (You often hear people saying... "I cannot play XXX Slot now, because streamer YYY won big on that Slot) - If I am correct... all funds that are played in a casino goes into one "Pot" .....and wins are paid out of that... or in the case of a Jackpot system.. into a "Pot" at the 3rd party service provider. (Is this true or false...any experts out there that can clear this up?)

Just to make something clear .... not all Streamers of gambling content are "Paid" streamers or affiliates of casinos.... some use their own money. (Example : Syztmz)

^Goes to into one pot that we called a house edge or a banker.
But it does have an effect if the paid streamers will win at that time, while other gamblers will lose. Each of them has its own RTP that we can verify on our own. Paid streamers are also similar to the regular gambler but the difference is they seem a higher wager because they have a lot of funds that come from sponsors' money. However you are right, they also use their own money for the sake of the content of the video but all of these are limited when it comes to spending funds.

[Slow death]

Just to clarify something.....

I see a lot of lazy people that are simply reading the "Subject" of this thread and then commenting on how Streamers are affecting people to start gambling.... and this is not what we are talking about here.... read the first post!

We are talking about how "paid" streamers are affecting the players experience that are already gambling on the different sites. (funding other players wins with the money they get from the casinos or even sweeping the funds that other people are playing.... )

We need casino experts to debunk assumptions or to confirm it.... if possible.

And where do you go to find these casino experts to get that answer? maybe you should start investigating paid Streamers and people who watch Streamers and then you will draw your own conclusions, in my case I don't even follow Streamers, I prefer to focus on my sports betting and not get carried away by the influence of other people who in this case are the Streamers

[Fatunad]

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People are also saying that "Paid" streamers are basically "sweeping" all money that are being played by others on those specific slots. (You often hear people saying... "I cannot play XXX Slot now, because streamer YYY won big on that Slot) - If I am correct... all funds that are played in a casino goes into one "Pot" .....and wins are paid out of that... or in the case of a Jackpot system.. into a "Pot" at the 3rd party service provider. (Is this true or false...any experts out there that can clear this up?)

Just to make something clear .... not all Streamers of gambling content are "Paid" streamers or affiliates of casinos.... some use their own money. (Example : Syztmz)

^Goes to into one pot that we called a house edge or a banker.
But it does have an effect if the paid streamers will win at that time, while other gamblers will lose. Each of them has its own RTP that we can verify on our own. Paid streamers are also similar to the regular gambler but the difference is they seem a higher wager because they have a lot of funds that come from sponsors' money. However you are right, they also use their own money for the sake of the content of the video but all of these are limited when it comes to spending funds.

As an influencer or streamer then i wont really be using up too much money on playing on a gambling site just because its been part of your job or simply like that because we are doing such job to earn more
money and not to waste of it which it would be understandable that most of them would be sponsored it out and it true that when it comes to chances or odds on winning then it would really be just the same
into those who do tend to play on that time or even on old players or others.It is really just they are really making significant wins since they do really bet out something big since they do have that big
funds been provided which it would really be that common sense that it could really trigger out someones interest whenever they do see these numbers.

[BitcoinPanther]

This has been a contentious issue and a common discussion under online gambling for a long time... and I want us to talk about this too. 

How does the "Paid" Streamers ..influence other gamblers experience? So,

Paid streamer influence other gamblers experience by enticing them to play to the casino that they are promoting.

People are also saying that "Paid" streamers are basically "sweeping" all money that are being played by others on those specific slots. (You often hear people saying... "I cannot play XXX Slot now, because streamer YYY won big on that Slot) - If I am correct... all funds that are played in a casino goes into one "Pot" .....and wins are paid out of that... or in the case of a Jackpot system.. into a "Pot" at the 3rd party service provider. (Is this true or false...any experts out there that can clear this up?)

If the slots is a jackpot slot and someone won the jackpot, I think the port will reset to its intial jackpot reward.  So basically the games reward had been restarted.

On the flip side of the coin..... Some people believe that "Paid" streamers are actually "feeding" or "funding" other people's large wins. They can only "sweep" other peoples funds, when they win.... if someone else win before them... the opposite happens... right?

Let's discuss.... and enjoy this thread please. 

This sometimes happen.   I have watched a yt stream where the streamer is being funded by more popular streamers.

[goldkingcoiner]

If you ask me I think paid streamers are faking gambling. Its probably all in a secret agreement between them and the gambling casino...

They might, as someone else in this thread already mentioned, get a bunch of fake funds to gamble with, so when they win they can make it look like they made a lot of money and if they lose then they do not actually lose anything of value. Furthermore its all obvious PR and advertisements to get money by referalls. And even if there are regulations in place to prevent this "fake gambling" then the streamers would find a way to fake their winnings for the views anyway without the gambling casino partnerships. They would still get a lot of money from the referalls and other income sources from their viewers.

Obviously the referral reward cost is taken into account and comes from the casino's gambling turnover. So in the end, it's the viewers paying the streamers for duping them into gambling.

This is possible and they're all doing these things in the name of money. They uplift the gambling site by gaining their wins which will benefit both site and the paid streamers. But of course, they will not admit it though their winnings are too good to be true. Their goal is to attract more players by making them believe that they could win as much as the streamers win. The viewers who fall for their trap don't really matter to them so we should be wise and skeptical because not all that we can watch or see on the internet is true.

Well in their defense (although I am not actually in their defense), screwing the small guy over has been the cornerstone of capitalism. This applies to almost any for-profit organisation or business. And it also applies to some non-profit organisations as well, no matter how they try to market it like they are the good guys.

Its just in the nature of humans to be greedy and do anything to get someone else's money/power/belongings/status

I really hope the governments at least try to regulate the bad sides which they can regulate. But again, its also the governments making huge profits off taxes from gambling. So probably there will be little to no change.

The world is not a fair place.

[ralle14]

in my case I don't even follow Streamers, I prefer to focus on my sports betting and not get carried away by the influence of other people who in this case are the Streamers

I also do the same thing and mainly do sports betting but I still find it entertaining to watch some gambling streams from time to time but they're not to the point where i'm encouraged to play the same games myself as i've been there before and prefer not to go back.

Also, streaming casinos are always a reputation blow (unless the streamer originally worked in this area), so I'm sure that they work for clearly defined amounts and not for "potential" earnings.

I somewhat agree, some of the paid streamers that take these offers are usually those who have a big audience so those reputation blow doesn't have much effect on their brand as they'd still have a portion of their audience going to continue and watch their content.

[Peanutswar]

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People are also saying that "Paid" streamers are basically "sweeping" all money that are being played by others on those specific slots. (You often hear people saying... "I cannot play XXX Slot now, because streamer YYY won big on that Slot) - If I am correct... all funds that are played in a casino goes into one "Pot" .....and wins are paid out of that... or in the case of a Jackpot system.. into a "Pot" at the 3rd party service provider. (Is this true or false...any experts out there that can clear this up?)

Just to make something clear .... not all Streamers of gambling content are "Paid" streamers or affiliates of casinos.... some use their own money. (Example : Syztmz)

^Goes to into one pot that we called a house edge or a banker.
But it does have an effect if the paid streamers will win at that time, while other gamblers will lose. Each of them has its RTP that we can verify on our own. Paid streamers are also similar to the regular gambler but the difference is they seem a higher wager because they have a lot of funds that come from sponsors' money. However you are right, they also use their own money for the sake of the content of the video but all of these are limited when it comes to spending funds.

With the streamers most of them have paid promotions and also their deposit with the gambling platform is came from the casino budget itself but they can't make a withdrawal with this because it is just a part of the contract if they have and the next is the game itself the developer can not make big changes just for this streamers only like giving a higher chance to play instead a budget only they can give and the role of the streamers only highlighting the wins.

[Fredomago]

~snip~
People are also saying that "Paid" streamers are basically "sweeping" all money that are being played by others on those specific slots. (You often hear people saying... "I cannot play XXX Slot now, because streamer YYY won big on that Slot) - If I am correct... all funds that are played in a casino goes into one "Pot" .....and wins are paid out of that... or in the case of a Jackpot system.. into a "Pot" at the 3rd party service provider. (Is this true or false...any experts out there that can clear this up?)

Just to make something clear .... not all Streamers of gambling content are "Paid" streamers or affiliates of casinos.... some use their own money. (Example : Syztmz)

^Goes to into one pot that we called a house edge or a banker.
But it does have an effect if the paid streamers will win at that time, while other gamblers will lose. Each of them has its RTP that we can verify on our own. Paid streamers are also similar to the regular gambler but the difference is they seem a higher wager because they have a lot of funds that come from sponsors' money. However you are right, they also use their own money for the sake of the content of the video but all of these are limited when it comes to spending funds.

With the streamers most of them have paid promotions and also their deposit with the gambling platform is came from the casino budget itself but they can't make a withdrawal with this because it is just a part of the contract if they have and the next is the game itself the developer can not make big changes just for this streamers only like giving a higher chance to play instead a budget only they can give and the role of the streamers only highlighting the wins.

Paid streamers are part of the team in terms of attracting gamblers to play the game and to visit the site, they can't play without the knowledge of the site owners as the video for the stream episode might not work, like how you think there's a contract in between that streamers will have a fund coming from the casino owners and they are not allow to withdraw the funds, not unless there's another contract to deal that they will let them withdraw for the benefits of giving idea with the viewers that the site are good in sending the money and it's safe to play using the platforms.

[davis196]

People are also saying that "Paid" streamers are basically "sweeping" all money that are being played by others on those specific slots. (You often hear people saying... "I cannot play XXX Slot now, because streamer YYY won big on that Slot) - If I am correct... all funds that are played in a casino goes into one "Pot" .....and wins are paid out of that... or in the case of a Jackpot system.. into a "Pot" at the 3rd party service provider. (Is this true or false...any experts out there that can clear this up?)

I'm no expert in online slot game mechanics, but this "sweeping" theory doesn't make any sense to me.
If the "sweeping" theory is true, slots games are simply following a sequence or an algorithm, where winning the jackpot is predetermined.
This makes the game rigged. The legit slot games are supposed to be 100% luck based and winning the jackpot must be completely random.
I don't think that paid streamers have any influence other than bringing new gamblers into online casinos.
This is some kind of weird myth, that is being shared by low IQ gamblers I guess.
Anyway, I don't play slots games, becasue:
1.They are boring.
2.I have the feeling that they are rigged and designed to make you lose your money(which is the basic purpose of all gambling games, right?)
I don't mind losing my money while having some fun playing games, but slots games aren't fun to play.

[TheGreatPython]

Not a huge fan of online gaming and gambling streamers, but one thing I've noticed is that they are not paid by anyone or any big companies especially when they're still building their reputation and viewers. Once they acquire huge audience, that's where companies starts offering you handsome amount to use their website. Online gambling companies and the streamer can easily deny that they don't have any partnership or connections.
So, nobody is really certain whether or not these gamblers were just plainly advertising the website or taking advantage of their clients.

Same here I don't know why I don't like to watch streams. For me I think they are only a waste of time, sorry but I only prefer to play the actual game. Obviously a streamer with low subs and views will be hardly pick to do a promotion because the reach will only be low but budget wise, they can just go to those who have a good number of followers.

Some streamers can deny that they do have a sponsorship with a casino, I think this was instructed to them. Gambling owners think that it will not be very effective to attract the public if they see that the streamer is sponsored because they will think that the game is being manipulated.

[Jawhead999]

Same here I don't know why I don't like to watch streams. For me I think they are only a waste of time, sorry but I only prefer to play the actual game. Obviously a streamer with low subs and views will be hardly pick to do a promotion because the reach will only be low but budget wise, they can just go to those who have a good number of followers.

I'd choose gambling with faucet rather than watching someone gamble even though he hit a jackpot

Usually people are watching streams because they want to see a reaction and how funny the streamer is, I don't think watch the games would make anyone interested. Until now I don't find a streamers that's really fun to watch, I'd rather watch a girl gambling.

Now I wonder if the total views on streams are actually bots in order to attract new people come into his streams.

[KTChampions]

Also, streaming casinos are always a reputation blow (unless the streamer originally worked in this area), so I'm sure that they work for clearly defined amounts and not for "potential" earnings.

I somewhat agree, some of the paid streamers that take these offers are usually those who have a big audience so those reputation blow doesn't have much effect on their brand as they'd still have a portion of their audience going to continue and watch their content.

A certain part of the audience always remains (most streamers develop like this: they earn an audience with content -> then they just stream their life "how I ate, walked, etc."), but still, uninvolved people have an aversion to gambling, muddy investments, and etc. Therefore, streamers who value the audience know that cooperation with the casino should be generously rewarded, as this is a loss in terms of audience loyalty.

[lionheart78]

Not a huge fan of online gaming and gambling streamers, but one thing I've noticed is that they are not paid by anyone or any big companies especially when they're still building their reputation and viewers. Once they acquire huge audience, that's where companies starts offering you handsome amount to use their website. Online gambling companies and the streamer can easily deny that they don't have any partnership or connections.
So, nobody is really certain whether or not these gamblers were just plainly advertising the website or taking advantage of their clients.

Same here I don't know why I don't like to watch streams. For me I think they are only a waste of time, sorry but I only prefer to play the actual game. Obviously a streamer with low subs and views will be hardly pick to do a promotion because the reach will only be low but budget wise, they can just go to those who have a good number of followers.

I have fun watching a channel that streams gambling on youtube.  I really like how this one streamer reacts to the slots, he may be a paid streamer and is sponsored but I really enjoy the natural reactions of that streamer.  I have seen his previous streams when he was starting and his bet is somewhere around $1 and was so happy when he hit 1k in a bonus round.  His reaction is so organic that you will find it funny when the guy got frustrated over something that didn't happen.  And best of all I like this streamer because he always shows the reality of gambling games not just all the good things about it.

Some streamers can deny that they do have a sponsorship with a casino, I think this was instructed to them. Gambling owners think that it will not be very effective to attract the public if they see that the streamer is sponsored because they will think that the game is being manipulated.

Yes, some paid streamers intended to trick their viewers into believing that their money is from them which in fact is sponsored one.  I hate those kinds of streamers because I believe they are making a fool out of their viewer.

[SirLancelot]

I don't believe if a streamer hits a big jackpot they can sweep all gamblers on the same provider and game, usually it depends on the RTP. Influencing other gamblers to play according to their pattern and style is usually like that, but it is up to other gamblers too because of that not all can follow their playing pattern. Also money they can spend is not small but it runs out fast and different to other real gambler the average is always thinking of ways to stay long in game to win.

If the viewer is a complete noob, then they will be easier to convince on what they see although some that has an experience already might still try their luck on the same game. Rtp affects winning rate but other factors as well like luck and capital. A streamer can play with a pattern but there is no guarantee that the pattern will also work to the viewers once they copy it because results are still going to be random.

The money that the streamers use are not small and they don't get busted quickly. They are actually winning because of that or the casino can do some manipulations during their stream for the sake of attracting the viewers.

[Mame89]

Not a huge fan of online gaming and gambling streamers, but one thing I've noticed is that they are not paid by anyone or any big companies especially when they're still building their reputation and viewers. Once they acquire huge audience, that's where companies starts offering you handsome amount to use their website. Online gambling companies and the streamer can easily deny that they don't have any partnership or connections.
So, nobody is really certain whether or not these gamblers were just plainly advertising the website or taking advantage of their clients.

Same here I don't know why I don't like to watch streams. For me I think they are only a waste of time, sorry but I only prefer to play the actual game. Obviously a streamer with low subs and views will be hardly pick to do a promotion because the reach will only be low but budget wise, they can just go to those who have a good number of followers.

Some streamers can deny that they do have a sponsorship with a casino, I think this was instructed to them. Gambling owners think that it will not be very effective to attract the public if they see that the streamer is sponsored because they will think that the game is being manipulated.

the situation of this place can make streamers make a profit if they grow the mind will get results from both sides by advertising casinos and platforms, which I've certainly seen streamers by advertising casinos very quickly attract high-minded people by looking for efficient money. Of course, if people are gambling fans, they will be very active in terms of information

[panjul07]

Paid streamers is just type of marketing strategies done by the casino to attract potential gamblers.
I myself like to watch gambling streamers, I like to watch when someone hit a huge win on gambling but it will not affect my gambling style.
Most paid streamers are those who has a decent number of followers so there is a big chance to attract more players to come to the casino.
The effect of paid streamers in online gambling is absolutely good for the casino as it can be considered to be one of the most effective strategy to attract more players.

[molsewid]

Paid streamers is just type of marketing strategies done by the casino to attract potential gamblers.
I myself like to watch gambling streamers, I like to watch when someone hit a huge win on gambling but it will not affect my gambling style.
Most paid streamers are those who has a decent number of followers so there is a big chance to attract more players to come to the casino.
The effect of paid streamers in online gambling is absolutely good for the casino as it can be considered to be one of the most effective strategy to attract more players.

But I knew some streamers who reject some offers as well anything that is related to crypto, those are a local streamer here in my country. I don't know why, but maybe because they don't have enough knowledge regarding crypto? I didn't ask them why but they said it is safe for them, I found those streamers in Facebook. Maybe the reason why is the platform itself is not open with this one as of now.

[minime0105]

Paid streamers is just type of marketing strategies done by the casino to attract potential gamblers.
I myself like to watch gambling streamers, I like to watch when someone hit a huge win on gambling but it will not affect my gambling style.
Most paid streamers are those who has a decent number of followers so there is a big chance to attract more players to come to the casino.
The effect of paid streamers in online gambling is absolutely good for the casino as it can be considered to be one of the most effective strategy to attract more players.

But I knew some streamers who reject some offers as well anything that is related to crypto, those are a local streamer here in my country. I don't know why, but maybe because they don't have enough knowledge regarding crypto? I didn't ask them why but they said it is safe for them, I found those streamers in Facebook. Maybe the reason why is the platform itself is not open with this one as of now.

I don't think that you can say their is no country that does not know about cryptocurrency. because cryptocurrency is generally accepted by different countries. And mostly people are using cryptocurrency to do different kinds of things depending.if any streamer that do not crypto that means it's not a cryptocurrency supporter. That's what i want to understand.

[rhomelmabini]

Most paid streamers are those who has a decent number of followers so there is a big chance to attract more players to come to the casino.
The effect of paid streamers in online gambling is absolutely good for the casino as it can be considered to be one of the most effective strategy to attract more players.

I'd say for about 5k or such will be enough for a streamer to be paid for the views, I mean if the streamer want to do some kind of bounty stuff to whoever shares on every required media platform will get paid. That's more than enough to get some traction or traffic in the gambling space, and as far as I can tell this will be the case even in the near decade since new streamers are flocking in the industry.