tomos81 Changed Hands?

[Crypt0S0ul]

Hey guys!

I have created a thread CPNpr Changed Hands?
On that thread, I noticed a guy named notscam posted this on my thread;

The owner of this account has changed.  You will understand if you see the posts of the account.  If you investigate it you will understand it.

account link. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=895451

I didn't have time to investigate this but later, I figured out whether he deleted the post or maybe moderators deleted the post.

Then I dug a little bit and it look suspicious to me.

Username: tomos81

The real Tomos was the founder of TomosMining - HIGHEST PAID MINING (BTC->FaucetHub) 5% REF!. He contributed to this forum in old days. The merit system wasn't introduced back then. He got 500 Merits from Airdrop and earned another two merits from his quality post. Right after the Introduction of merit and the End Of CPU/GPU mining of BTC, He completely disappeared from this forum. Because He was here to do business with his Mining service and he also took some loans back then.

This was his last post to this forum;

hi , quick update from holiday:

- ETN is still not fixed, waiting for that cryptopia bug fix
- other markets are quiet because of bitcoin price, waiting for btc price growing ( i hope tuesday will start to grow)
- i will start to work on new payment system right when i will return from holidays (tuesday) - will pay everything i will sell in pieces -  it means i will split sold satoshis based on user shares, deduct a piece of mined hashes and pay to faucethub..  this way i will be able to compensate everything in few weeks.
cheers

We don't know if he is alive or not.
He left some unique things. Using those things we can verify the account owner.
He has a website that is still up but not updated. http://tomostasks.website/ (Nudity inside)

pool stats (resetting every proxy restart)
http://tomostasks.website/stats.php

He also signed a message from His Bitcoin wallet.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am tomos81 and asking CasioK  for a loan of 0.015BTC for 7 days. I am offering my BCT account as collateral.  I will repay 0.018BTC.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: MultiBit HD (0.5.1)
Comment: https://multibit.org
Address: 1DnWG7sL7yWekSS11nZsNNnxyWrwtHNYRs

H5wRNPy+rwHpZREzzu1sdKtm9kwzg6/dtw9Fnrmpz16yCFXf9csHPvR3cQPZrkeur7FHRGPl4kcVvYiO5F9gSpo=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

The real Tomos was posting On the Micro Earning Section for His Mining Service



and he never posted in Bounty Section. Maybe the account was bought by a bounty hunter. He posted several times on the bounty section.

This account is woken up on 25/05/2022 and changed the password on 28/05/2022



Right after waking up, He started Posting on the Gambling discussion thread. Meanwhile, He also started to apply on Signature campaigns and Bounty Campaigns. Quoted some posts for references (I didn't quote bounty posts because the threads are locked);

Bitcointalk Username: tomos81
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=895451
Post Count: 2532
btc address: bc1qaa6jnhwr0ja2kcdry0806s4cj2je9rf8977vt4
Forum Rank: Hero Member

Name: tomos81
Post count: 2531
Rank:Hero Member
BTC Segwit Address: bc1qaa6jnhwr0ja2kcdry0806s4cj2je9rf8977vt4
Profile UID: 895451

He also applied to the Stake Signature campaign without answering the primary question  

Bitcointalk Username: tomos81
Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=895451
Post Count: 2577
Forum Rank: Hero member
Are you able to wear our Signature, Avatar & Personal Text?
Stake Username: tomos81

Since then, he started posting on the Gambling discussion board. He made 25 Posts in the last 24 hours only on the gambling board (More than ChartBuddy. ChartBuddy Post only 24 times a day)

Seems like he was accepted on the Stake Signature Campaign. But, I was unable to find a Spreadsheet of signature campaign participants.
@Carollzinha, Would you mind letting me know if he was accepted or not?

The rest is in your hand guys.

Thanks to notscam
Regards!

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[logfiles]

This is an interesting case worth following

We don't know if he is alive or not.
He left some unique things. Using those things we can verify the account owner.
He has a website that is still up but not updated. https://tomostasks.website/ (Nudity inside)

The website redirects to gaysfinder.life (NSFW) I am not sure if that was the owner's intention 

He also signed a message from His Bitcoin wallet.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am tomos81 and asking CasioK  for a loan of 0.015BTC for 7 days. I am offering my BCT account as collateral.  I will repay 0.018BTC.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: MultiBit HD (0.5.1)
Comment: https://multibit.org
Address: 1DnWG7sL7yWekSS11nZsNNnxyWrwtHNYRs

H5wRNPy+rwHpZREzzu1sdKtm9kwzg6/dtw9Fnrmpz16yCFXf9csHPvR3cQPZrkeur7FHRGPl4kcVvYiO5F9gSpo=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

To prove that he is the original owner of the account, he should be summoned to sign a message from this address or else I think it will be safe to assume the account changed hands

Seems like he was accepted on the Stake Signature Campaign. But, I was unable to find a Spreadsheet of signature campaign participants.
@Carollzinha, Would you mind letting me know if he was accepted or not?

I have seen the spreadsheet and can confirm that he was accepted in the signature campaign.

[Crypt0S0ul]

We don't know if he is alive or not.
He left some unique things. Using those things we can verify the account owner.
He has a website that is still up but not updated. http://tomostasks.website/ (Nudity inside)

The website redirects to gaysfinder.life (NSFW) I am not sure if that was the owner's intention  

Thanks for pointing out. I would never know if it’s possible to use same domain for different purposes. Just remove S from https and you will be on main website. Http will lead you on the main website. But, https redirects to some random NSFW website. Would you mind edit and fix?

To prove that he is the original owner of the account, he should be summoned to sign a message from this address or else I think it will be safe to assume the account changed hands

Right. Based on my information, Do you believe the account changed hands? Or Let's wait for him?

[_BlackStar]

Right. Based on my information, Do you believe the account changed hands?

Interesting, once you succeed with the first case then you seem very motivated to catch more other users who might just change their password for security, change their posting habits just to qualify for the campaign or something. I can't jump to conclusions for all the evidence you said, maybe he has changed hands and is sold but maybe he just started something new to earn a few dollars from the signature campaign.

The problem is, you have to give him chance to speak up and prove ownership of his account for while, that can be done by signing message from the bitcoin address he once used.

You can expect him to sign messages from this address:

Code:

1DnWG7sL7yWekSS11nZsNNnxyWrwtHNYRs
1ETKDyudqno5HLMCE4ngxARjmKPhe7fn41

[Panglima Perang]

Right. Based on my information, Do you believe the account changed hands? Or Let's wait for him?

How about if you miss and give wrong information? he can proof with sign message and give valid document about account not changed hands, will you ask apologize and never make catch any more? will DT give OP bad reputation and not allowed catch and make investigating again?

Habit post from mining to gambling board because he joined with signature Stake and need make post on gambling board.

[Little Mouse]

It's same as CPNpr who was official representative of CompuCoin. There's no other way to prove the account's legitimacy other than asking a signed message from the above bitcoin address. But this is certainly a case of account trading. It’s very much likely that it's hacked account. I'm tagging the account for now. Will remove if he can provide a signed message.

[Crypt0S0ul]

To prove that he is the original owner of the account, he should be summoned to sign a message from this address or else I think it will be safe to assume the account changed hands

I'm tagging the account for now. Will remove if he can provide a signed message.

The problem is, you have to give him chance to speak up and prove ownership of his account for while, that can be done by signing message from the bitcoin address he once used.

He has informed Via PM about this thread. He is supposed to respond to this thread. It's been over 24 hours and no reply to this thread nor in PM.

[_BlackStar]

He has informed Via PM about this thread. He is supposed to respond to this thread. It's been over 24 hours and no reply to this thread nor in PM.

Do you know how a defendant avoids fatal guilt when asked to prove something? Yes, they will ignore the request but they are active everywhere to post something. We basically have no right to force someone to respond to anything we suspect about them, including signing messages or anything like that. But if these defendants want to neutralize the situation so that people no longer doubt it then they will come to respond.

However, if you have valid evidence to say that the account has changed hands regardless of how it happened, then I just want you to be able to prove it. without needing to tell them about it. After all, you also don't have much evidence at this time to determine that the account has changed hands, but if you have any doubts about them, post neutral tag so you can avoid dealing with them in the future.

[Crypt0S0ul]

After all, you also don't have much evidence at this time to determine that the account has changed hands, but if you have any doubts about them, post neutral tag so you can avoid dealing with them in the future.

Why don't you think so? The original Tomos was a genius guy. He was an owner of a Sportsbetting website and owner of a mining service. Do you believe such a guy needs to participate in a bounty campaign? This guy tried to join in various bounty campaigns right after waking up. The real Tomos are never posted in the Gambling section. This guy started posting only on the Gambling section and is not interested in any other part of the forum. The writing style changed, Wake up after an extended period, Password changed.

[_BlackStar]

Why don't you think so? The original Tomos was a genius guy. He was an owner of a Sportsbetting website and owner of a mining service. Do you believe such a guy needs to participate in a bounty campaign? This guy tried to join in various bounty campaigns right after waking up. The real Tomos are never posted in the Gambling section. This guy started posting only on the Gambling section and is not interested in any other part of the forum. The writing style changed, Wake up after an extended period, Password changed.

Then how can you never think otherwise when the economy and inflation have bankrupted some non-popular businesses and left them with no income? Covid-19 has destroyed a large part of the economy but is quickly starting to grow and improve, but inflation has forced people to earn more even though they actually have primary jobs.

I've said that one can change quickly when they need money ^{[remember this one],} but one can always doubt that accounts change hands regardless of whether they are sold or hacked. You can tag them with evidence, but I'm not going to pull out a gun quickly until I have valid evidence. You know? i have to get lot of valid evidence before tagging another user as guilty and i mostly do it myself instead of having a DT member investigate it. I've gained some valuable experience before, so maybe I'll be little cautious.

[Rikafip]

I have seen the spreadsheet and can confirm that he was accepted in the signature campaign.

I personally wouldn't let him be part of altcoin signature campaign let alone BTC campaign. That @tomos81 is an utter gambling board shitposter, mostly writing about stuff that he obviously knows nothing about and its disappointing to see that he is getting paid for that drivel.

I've said that one can change quickly when they need money ^{[remember this one],} but one can always doubt that accounts change hands regardless of whether they are sold or hacked. You can tag them with evidence, but I'm not going to pull out a gun quickly until I have valid evidence. You know? i have to get lot of valid evidence before tagging another user as guilty and i mostly do it myself instead of having a DT member investigate it. I've gained some valuable experience before, so maybe I'll be little cautious.

What has to happen for someone to regress in terms of English as it happened with @tomos81? People usually get better and here we have the opposite. Just compare his post history before he woke up few months ago and now and you will see the difference. To be fair, person that was behind this account up until 2018 obviously didn't care much about punctuation etc but his English was obviously better than what it is now and changing posting so drastically is a huge red flag.


@Crypt0S0ul  I think that you are onto something here and for now I am leaving neutral feedback that might change to negative in the future.

[logfiles]

I have seen the spreadsheet and can confirm that he was accepted in the signature campaign.

I personally wouldn't let him be part of altcoin signature campaign let alone BTC campaign. That @tomos81 is an utter gambling board shitposter, mostly writing about stuff that he obviously knows nothing about and its disappointing to see that he is getting paid for that drivel.

Perhaps the person in charge of screening new applicants into the stake campaign isn't keen enough, but there's nothing much we can do since it's their money. If it's gambling board shitposters they prefer to pay, then that's up to them. It's their loss.

But on the side change of account ownership, I am also going to mark then since the accused hasn't bothered to come around and prove to as that they are still the same owner.

[_BlackStar]

What has to happen for someone to regress in terms of English as it happened with @tomos81? People usually get better and here we have the opposite. Just compare his post history before he woke up few months ago and now and you will see the difference. To be fair, person that was behind this account up until 2018 obviously didn't care much about punctuation etc but his English was obviously better than what it is now and changing posting so drastically is a huge red flag.

I just checked, and you are right about the change. I've also previously told the OP that neutral tags are a viable solution to his doubts before things are decided wisely. I didn't mark the OP ^{[negative/neutral]} because I guess he will come to cheer for some reason or maybe by proving ownership of his account. If it did change hands, then I wouldn't mind if someone or more people shot it a red tag.

Apparently this is changing fast, LOL.

[Rikafip]

Perhaps the person in charge of screening new applicants into the stake campaign isn't keen enough, but there's nothing much we can do since it's their money. If it's gambling board shitposters they prefer to pay, then that's up to them. It's their loss.

It's sellers market at the moment as there are more spots in bitcoin signature campaigns that there are decent posters, which results with shitposters like @tomos81 being able to enter the campaign. Bar to enter keeps lowering for some time (I would say for the last two years) or so so we can expect more and more similar shitposters being able to enter campaigns,

But on the side change of account ownership, I am also going to mark then since the accused hasn't bothered to come around and prove to as that they are still the same owner.

He did contact me via PM, asking me to reconsider my tag (I mistakenly gave him negative which I changed to neutral) so he is well aware of this thread but for whatever reason decided to ignore it (most likely because he is guilty as charged).

[tomos81]

I have seen the spreadsheet and can confirm that he was accepted in the signature campaign.

I personally wouldn't let him be part of altcoin signature campaign let alone BTC campaign. That @tomos81 is an utter gambling board shitposter, mostly writing about stuff that he obviously knows nothing about and its disappointing to see that he is getting paid for that drivel.

Perhaps the person in charge of screening new applicants into the stake campaign isn't keen enough, but there's nothing much we can do since it's their money. If it's gambling board shitposters they prefer to pay, then that's up to them. It's their loss.

But on the side change of account ownership, I am also going to mark then since the accused hasn't bothered to come around and prove to as that they are still the same owner.

Good Morning Sir, Actually I have been taking a break from this account for a long time due to my several problems. I faced several dollar trading losses last few months but mine You have to join this forum again to run the family. In this situation I joined a signature campaign where I used to earn money by posting but because of my negative feedback the signature I was rejected from Campion. I would strongly request you to remove your negative feedback

[Poker Player]

Good Morning Sir, Actually I have been taking a break from this account for a long time due to my several problems. I faced several dollar trading losses last few months but mine You have to join this forum again to run the family. In this situation I joined a signature campaign where I used to earn money by posting but because of my negative feedback the signature I was rejected from Campion. I would strongly request you to remove your negative feedback

Good Morning Sir.

In the unlikely event that the garbage story you are telling is true, you would have a very easy way to prove it: sign a message from the address:

1DnWG7sL7yWekSS11nZsNNnxyWrwtHNYRs

In this way, Sir logfiles, Sir JollyGood and the others that have left you negative feedback, would realize that they had made a mistake and would delete the feedback.

[Crypt0S0ul]

Good Morning Sir.

He he he. Savage Poker Player!

Update from Carollzinha. tomos81 was kicked from the signature campaign (that wasn't my goal). But, Those shit posters don't deserve to be in the signature campaign.

Hey there

Yeah, he was part of the campaign but he has been kicked.

To be honest, the fact that his account seem to have changed hands is not against our campaign rules (as its not even 100% confirmed, as _BlackStar mentioned) yet these -2 negative trusts he received during this weekend are.

Even though, I want to thank you for dropping me a message to let us aware of that thread. People like you help us to keep not only our campaigns but the forum a better place for everyone 

PS: I am sorry for not being able to send you any merit for all the effort you put in helping our community. Sadly as I dont use forum much, I am kinda limited with these merit points  Grin

Regards,
Carollzinha

[Poker Player]

He just wrote me two PMs, with the same content, within five minutes of each other.

I won't reproduce the PMs here, but he basically says he is the same person and has lost access to the address to sign the message with.

Deep down I feel a little sorry for him.

But we see a lot of cases on the forum of wanting to take the fast track to make money, and that's not how things are done.

In this forum you can earn money by being a decent person, without cheating, without buying accounts. There are countless examples of this.

[lovesmayfamilis]

He just wrote me two PMs, with the same content, within five minutes of each other.

I won't reproduce the PMs here, but he basically says he is the same person and has lost access to the address to sign the message with.

Deep down I feel a little sorry for him.

But we see a lot of cases on the forum of wanting to take the fast track to make money, and that's not how things are done.

In this forum you can earn money by being a decent person, without cheating, without buying accounts. There are countless examples of this.

This is what account buyers are counting on. While you feel sorry for him, he continues to writhe like a "snake in a pan" and use all methods, from impudence to humiliation. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404539.msg60805776#msg60805776

In fact, using all methods costs them nothing. Some particularly compassionate members of this forum argue by defending purchased accounts as accounts that do no harm to anyone as long as they are not involved in financial transactions. But on the other hand, we can see how real users work diligently to increase their rank. Why should we pity these liars?

[tomos81]

He just wrote me two PMs, with the same content, within five minutes of each other.

I won't reproduce the PMs here, but he basically says he is the same person and has lost access to the address to sign the message with.

Deep down I feel a little sorry for him.

But we see a lot of cases on the forum of wanting to take the fast track to make money, and that's not how things are done.

In this forum you can earn money by being a decent person, without cheating, without buying accounts. There are countless examples of this.

This is what account buyers are counting on. While you feel sorry for him, he continues to writhe like a "snake in a pan" and use all methods, from impudence to humiliation.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404539.msg60805776#msg60805776

In fact, using all methods costs them nothing. Some particularly compassionate members of this forum argue by defending purchased accounts as accounts that do no harm to anyone as long as they are not involved in financial transactions. But on the other hand, we can see how real users work diligently to increase their rank. Why should we pity these liars?

Sir you can believe me without doubt, I am not lying. I am the actual owner of this account. It's kind of oppressive to me. I beg you not to make me a liar. Please remove my feedback if you know but don't call me a liar. Finally I thank everyone. 😭😭😭😭😭