$500 exchange scam

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Now all your friends, including BitcoinGirl.Club, are screaming

Don't twist your dick, dickhead.

[16xypjnxlrew]

16xypjnxlrew = Deonnn  

I don't have $500, only 100 UST and $100 futures

[ScamViruS]

OP was connected to the scammer, the "extra" funds that he sent he sent to gain my trust and scam a lot more in the future from me. That or something went wrong and he couldn't double spend like with the previous account. His money will be donated.

Since you don't own the money, and the op actually owns the money, I think donating the money might not be the right decision. So think again what you want to do, because everything depends on your decision. Scammers won't even stop their operations, they'll use the same trick on someone else later.

[casinotester0001]

16xypjnxlrew = Deonnn  

I don't have $500, only 100 UST and $100 futures

check your IP and IP of Deonnn  

[16xypjnxlrew]

check your IP and IP of Deonnn  

Stop writing bullshit!

Since you don't own the money, and the op actually owns the money, I think donating the money might not be the right decision. So think again what you want to do, because everything depends on your decision. Scammers won't even stop their operations, they'll use the same trick on someone else later.

I think alterra57 shouldn't return anything to him because this scammer tried to manipulate all of us

[LoyceV]

OP, from the screenshot you posted, in one of your replies you said this: "Give me proof  it's me and take money I m not dsadsa and I don't know who is this".
I'll give you a proof. This is the transaction ID sent by dsadsa: https://mempool.space/tx/c306113746b9cf78d6823ee75260ad311d612f0ae3c145207bccf71b2fdb5e44
Which was replaced by this one: https://mempool.space/tx/e5e783122e3c2dcd3b4ec3b1ed5533fe3b0438512c5597625351d0f108737c7f
The coins were sent to this address: bc1qtey6w27temcjdsv5uaglfa97d3a56flfv6w7eh which was used as input in the transaction you shared as proof of payment (it's your address)

Proof of Payment:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5bf44f3b65573b3c8e975eb0f68e991a77621e037ff4492856e4c126d5c27222

So, can you explain why someone you don't even know who he is (sdasda) sent you $500 worth of bitcoin?

Don't you love the blockchain?

Should I send the difference back or punish this little scammer for what he did? I cannot be the first victim, nor the last one.

Now that's an interesting ethical question I don't have a direct answer for.

OP was connected to the scammer, the "extra" funds that he sent he sent to gain my trust and scam a lot more in the future from me. That or something went wrong and he couldn't double spend like with the previous account. His money will be donated.

Do you know how long it took between the transaction and confirmation? We've had many blocks recently, and double spending isn't a guaranteed game indeed.

I see, right now I'm 100% sure the money he sent me he scammed from someone else so I have decided to donate those money to an animal shelter (I love cats). If I send the coins back to him he will keep on doing what he does best, scam people out of their hard earned money.

I'd say don't refund him yet. Maybe you'll be able to find earlier victims if you trace back where the funds came from. Refunding them is much more satisfying.

@Deonnn: Since you so clearly got busted with on-chain evidence, do you mind playing open cards here? Be honest, come clean, share your experiences as a scammer with the Bitcointalk community. I'd love to see inside a scammer's mind!

[alterra57]

OP, from the screenshot you posted, in one of your replies you said this: "Give me proof  it's me and take money I m not dsadsa and I don't know who is this".
I'll give you a proof. This is the transaction ID sent by dsadsa: https://mempool.space/tx/c306113746b9cf78d6823ee75260ad311d612f0ae3c145207bccf71b2fdb5e44
Which was replaced by this one: https://mempool.space/tx/e5e783122e3c2dcd3b4ec3b1ed5533fe3b0438512c5597625351d0f108737c7f
The coins were sent to this address: bc1qtey6w27temcjdsv5uaglfa97d3a56flfv6w7eh which was used as input in the transaction you shared as proof of payment (it's your address)

Proof of Payment:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5bf44f3b65573b3c8e975eb0f68e991a77621e037ff4492856e4c126d5c27222

So, can you explain why someone you don't even know who he is (sdasda) sent you $500 worth of bitcoin?

Don't you love the blockchain?

Should I send the difference back or punish this little scammer for what he did? I cannot be the first victim, nor the last one.

Now that's an interesting ethical question I don't have a direct answer for.

OP was connected to the scammer, the "extra" funds that he sent he sent to gain my trust and scam a lot more in the future from me. That or something went wrong and he couldn't double spend like with the previous account. His money will be donated.

Do you know how long it took between the transaction and confirmation? We've had many blocks recently, and double spending isn't a guaranteed game indeed.

I see, right now I'm 100% sure the money he sent me he scammed from someone else so I have decided to donate those money to an animal shelter (I love cats). If I send the coins back to him he will keep on doing what he does best, scam people out of their hard earned money.

I'd say don't refund him yet. Maybe you'll be able to find earlier victims if you trace back where the funds came from. Refunding them is much more satisfying.

@Deonnn: Since you so clearly got busted with on-chain evidence, do you mind playing open cards here? Be honest, come clean, share your experiences as a scammer with the Bitcointalk community. I'd love to see inside a scammer's mind!

Took less than 2 minutes for the first confirmation to take place, it surprised me as it was really fast but it's Saturday today so the chain isn't as crowded as it is during week days. His "calculations" did not have that in.

Thank you for the suggestion, I will try and identify the victim/s if they are members of this forum which I doubt, he probably scammed someone in a Telegram group as that is how a lot of these scammers operate.

And Deon, share your inner workings with us, I too am interested in learning how rotten someone has to be to steal money from people.

[16xypjnxlrew]

Took less than 2 minutes for the first confirmation to take place, it surprised me as it was really fast but it's Saturday today so the chain isn't as crowded as it is during week days. His "calculations" did not have that in.

Thank you for the suggestion, I will try and identify the victim/s if they are members of this forum which I doubt, he probably scammed someone in a Telegram group as that is how a lot of these scammers operate.

And Deon, share your inner workings with us, I too am interested in learning how rotten someone has to be to steal money from people.

Will you move your topic to the scam accusations? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

[DireWolfM14]

I'll just comment on this:
OP, from the screenshot you posted, in one of your replies you said this: "Give me proof  it's me and take money I m not dsadsa and I don't know who is this".
I'll give you a proof. This is the transaction ID sent by dsadsa: https://mempool.space/tx/c306113746b9cf78d6823ee75260ad311d612f0ae3c145207bccf71b2fdb5e44
Which was replaced by this one: https://mempool.space/tx/e5e783122e3c2dcd3b4ec3b1ed5533fe3b0438512c5597625351d0f108737c7f
The coins were sent to this address: bc1qtey6w27temcjdsv5uaglfa97d3a56flfv6w7eh which was used as input in the transaction you shared as proof of payment (it's your address)

Proof of Payment:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5bf44f3b65573b3c8e975eb0f68e991a77621e037ff4492856e4c126d5c27222

So, can you explain why someone you don't even know who he is (sdasda) sent you $500 worth of bitcoin?

Nice work.  As soon as I realized there were two conflicting scam accusations I figured the blockchain could shed some light on the truth.

Should I send the difference back or punish this little scammer for what he did? I cannot be the first victim, nor the last one. I think I'll send 50 USD to khaled0111 and donate the rest to an animal shelter or something.

Stealing from a thief is still stealing.  It's been proven that he stole from you, and now you've recovered that money.  If there's a way to prove the remainder was also stolen, then it should be returned to it's rightful owners.  Otherwise, no matter what noble cause on which you propose to spend the money makes it any less theft on your part.

[casinotester0001]

... then it should be returned to it's rightful owners.

When we find out that Deonnn got the 500 bucks from let's say user ABC.
How much should alterra57 send ABC 

[DireWolfM14]

... then it should be returned to it's rightful owners.

When we find out that Deonnn got the 500 bucks from let's say user ABC.
How much should alterra57 send ABC 

Ever hear of subtraction?  It goes something like this:

500 - 170 = 330

[Deonnn]

Refund me atleast 330 how staff says it

[casinotester0001]

Ever hear of subtraction?  It goes something like this:
500 - 170 = 330

Maybe fair and better?:

alterra57:
(170/670) * 500 = 127

ABC:
(500/670) * 500 = 373

[DireWolfM14]

Refund me atleast 330 how staff says it

The only person who mentioned the number 330 is me.  I'm not staff, and I have no say whatsoever what alterra57 does with the money.  You've been proven to be a liar and a scammer, so no one really cares whether you get the money back or not.

~

Oooooh, ratios!?!  Who's the smart boy?

Animal shelter is certainly a good idea, or some small non collateral loans to users that do actually need it, like me.

What's the matter, did you gamble away the grocery money?

[DireWolfM14]

Don't understand why you are trying to attack me but no I did not.

Lol, because you look like just another scammer sniffing around for a handout, Chahan.  Or should I say Maasdamer?

[16xypjnxlrew]

Lol, because you look like just another scammer sniffing around for a handout, Chahan.  Or should I say Maasdamer?

Why then did you support the scammer before?

[NotATether]

Proof of Payment:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5bf44f3b65573b3c8e975eb0f68e991a77621e037ff4492856e4c126d5c27222

Can you sign one of the input address of the tx? This will prove that the coin were sent from your wallet.

See, these "proof of payments" are fucked. Nowadays people are not even using signed messages anymore, but blockchain transactions which could be theirs or could belong to some random person. Thus a person could commit fraud by producing an arbitrary transaction on a block explorer as a "proof of payment".

This "proof of payment" is only valid between buyer and seller, and meaningless to everyone else. There is no way (currently) to prove that you actually sent Bitcoins somewhere.

[LoyceV]

Refund me atleast 330 how staff says it

"Staff" has nothing to do with this. Maybe this is a good moment to ask for "source of funds", like a bank would do. I'm pretty sure you scammed the money from someone else.

This "proof of payment" is only valid between buyer and seller, and meaningless to everyone else.

True, but since the other party didn't contest it and more or less confirmed it in their own thread, I don't doubt this transaction happened between those two users.

[o_e_l_e_o]

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Good find. While I stand by what I said in the other thread, that the chat logs alone were not enough to conclusively prove a link, this blockchain evidence is irrefutable that these two users are the same person.

It is completely justified for OP to keep the amount he was scammed. What happens with the remainder of the amount is up to him. Personally, I would probably return the remainder of the funds, although I can see the merit behind either donating them or trying to refund other victims of this scammer.

[Deonnn]

But he said that he received it so lol