We are all Hodlonaut

[o_e_l_e_o]

So I just stumbled across this post from Greg Maxwell on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ws8wfd/starting_september_12th_in_oslo_norway_hodlonaut/ikxqxoo/. Everyone with even a passing interest in bitcoin (which includes you, if you are reading this forum) should read this post. In fact, I would read the whole thread, because Greg has made a number of excellent posts.

Next month a pseudonymous individual by the handle of Hodlonaut will go to court in Norway to defend himself against known fraudster CSW. For anyone out of the loop, here is an update on the case: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/timeline-of-hodlonaut-craig-wright-case. The very abridged version is that Holdonaut posted on Twitter what everyone knows - that CSW is not Satoshi - and now there is a court case to determine whether these tweets are lawful and whether Hodlonaut has to pay damages to CSW.

This case doesn't just affect Hodlonaut; it affects all of us. Hodlonaut is not just defending himself; he is defending us all, as explained in Greg's post I linked to above.

So what can we do to help? Well, CSW is being bankrolled by Calvin Ayre and CoinGeek. Hodlonaut, on the other hand, is being bankrolled by nobody. Got some spare sats kicking around? I can think of no worthier cause than the defense of bitcoin itself.

https://www.defendingbtc.com/
https://nitter.it/defendingBTC

#WeAreAllHodlonaut


Twitter links of individuals who are at the trial:

https://nitter.it/bitnorbert
https://nitter.it/SpecificMills
https://nitter.it/kristiandoble/


Thread continued here: Hodlonaut Trial

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[CryptoHeadlineNews]

I just read the case and I'm just surprised seeing someone claiming he created Bitcoin. It's pretty laughable and also a serious case we shouldn't joke about. Because everybody knows that Satoshi Nakamoto created Bitcoin, of which all evidence could be found on his forum profile Satoshi.
So my question here is, why didn't Wright provide the 1.1million Bitcoin he claims to own when the court ordered him? And why is he sueing journalist and Bitcoin developers who tries to proof he isn't the creator of Bitcoin if he really is? Because until he log-in Satoshi's forum account, I will still never believe he created Bitcoin.

Because for me, this is the case and time for everybody who has ever believed in Bitcoin to stand up for this case.

[Charles-Tim]

From what I read on reddit and Bitcoin magazine, I understand this better. I wonder how someone that is not a programmer and having no knowledge of the basic tech of bitcoin to be Satoshi Nakamoto. Just simple evidences are needed to claim if he is the true Satoshi or not, was he able to sign bitcoin message with the address that has the 1.1 million bitcoin? Definitely NO is what that comes my mind.

So my question here is, why didn't Wright provide the 1.1million Bitcoin he claims to own when the court ordered him?

Because he is not the owner. Because he is not Satoshi.

On several occasions he's claimed he would provide "proof" of his claims, but the proof he provides just gets proved to be forgeries. At one juncture he was ordered to provide a list of specific Bitcoin that he owns to a court and when it was made public parties controlling thousands of Bitcoin from his list immediately showed up signing messages calling him a fraud. Even his mother called out his pathological lying.

You'd think that would be the end of it--- but no, the tax fraud set off an improbable series of forced moves as he then needed to repay the tax authority to get them off his trail so in order to get millions of dollars in loans he claimed that he had possession of 1.1 million bitcoins locked in a trust controlled by a "bonded courier" that would release them to him on a particular date (think of that scene at the end of Back to the Future 2). Unfortunately, there are plenty of technically unsophisticated but wealthy people out there who can be tricked into ignoring even the most conclusive technical evidence of fraud.

When the bonded courier didn't show (surprise surprise), Mr. Wright needed a new excuse and started claiming that his coins were stolen in an oceans 11 style high tech break in of his home to plant a "wireless pineapple" to hack his computers. He claims, conveniently, to have erased the computers afterwards so he has is no evidence of these their theft.

He is definitely not Satoshi

[OgNasty]

I was glad to see that someone dropped 47 BTC into Hodlonaut's defense fund.  That's a great deal of coin.  While I'm not a huge fan of some maximalist tactics, I can appreciate that Hodlonaut stood up for himself and the community by calling out a fraudster.  While it is a shame that so much money has to be wasted that could have undoubtedly gone to better places, I am hoping for the best, which is that CSW loses and goes away.  I'll admit it took me longer than it should have to realize what CSW was trying to do and he did have a good plan (as far as scammers go), but in the end, Hal remains victorious. 

[darkangel11]

Because he is not the owner. Because he is not Satoshi.

He is definitely not Satoshi

Watch out, you could get sued by Craig "Faketoshi" Wright. Oops, I could get sued too! Sorry Craig, I didn't mean to say that you're a fraud. It just came out that way.
P.S. if Craig is reading this, you got your ass handed to you by Vitalik at that conference in 2018. Why didn't you sue him?

[Doan9269]

So what can we do to help? Well, CSW is being bankrolled by Calvin Ayre and CoinGeek. Hodlonaut, on the other hand, is being bankrolled by nobody

I saw the news trending since yesterday but to my surprise no one has drop the discussion here on bitcoin discussion and thanks for putting an update through, it's of no doubt that lot of people were already giving in support of Hodlonaut in other to win the case and i know this also will have a long place to go with the forum members in their support as well, here we all have nothing but just to defend bitcoin as it been said, one thing i know that could be a difficult task to do is for Craig Wright to use his account sign a message if truly he is Satoshi.

We are not moved neither do we get confused by his insanity display and claim of being Satoshi because literally, Satoshi couldn't have done what he's doing, and we all respective the fact that privacy is an asset that need to be protected in which bitcoin has taught us this and you can't expect the brain behind it (Satoshi) who has remained anonymous to come out of a sudden with the claim "i am Satoshi" i think Craig needs to undergo some psychological checks.

#WeAreAllHodlonaut

[Z-tight]

and now there is a court case to determine whether these tweets are lawful and whether Hodlonaut has to pay damages to CSW.

It is a funny world we live in, one in which an impersonator is suing for damages because reasonable people didn't take in his lies. This tweet and all the tweets and articles that expose the conman's lies should only be deemed unlawful and defamatory when he proves that he is Satoshi, which he cannot. Once he can prove to be Satoshi, whatever has been said against him becomes unlawful, but as he will never be able to prove that, they remain true and lawful to anybody with reason and understanding of what bitcoin is.

[franky1]

CSW's game is not now to prove anything.
its simply to cause social drama and try to sue (frivolous cases) people into submission/defeat by just pushing the length of court hysteria for as long as possible hoping those on the opposite side of CSW just give up and try to offer him a settlement or pay up.. in short CSW just wants to get money from them while provoking media stories.. and then to double that money by selling the story to media.

CSW promised his sugar daddy (ayres) lots of ROI for all the money ayres invested in CSW in the form of book deals, public speaking tours and movie deals

and thats why ayres is pushing this social drama forward and backing CSW, because ayres hopes one day CSW will pay ayres back

..
funny part of all this is
ayres pays for all CSW's costs upfront. EG travel to speaking conventions and court costs. but any £1+ amounts that CSW gets, doesnt go back to ayres. so ayres has to invest more into CSW to try making CSW famous to get ROI on the book deals/movies that CSW promised him.. even if that means that ayres then has to fund the movie budget hoping for returns on the ticket sales..

its comedy gold how this is playing out, that ayres is on the losing side but keeps losing by keep paying out hoping one day for a win.
if CSW was successful in law, fame, or running a currency. ayres should have been rich by now.. but he is losing more money than he has gained
..
on a serious note
CSW never cares if he wins or loses these frivolous/slapp suits it costs him(csw) nothing, sugar daddy(ayres) is paying the bill. his game is not about winning. its about drama provoking for fame by prolonging the tensions of the looming court dates. spreading them out over years hoping the other side gives up and settles with CSW whilst also  upping CSW fame rating in media
thus expect many more court cases and more drama to ensue no matter the results of current/previous cases.

my opinion is this:
we should help those fighting against CSW. but do it on the downlow, keep it at social media level. and try to get formal media to not emphasise CSW any more.
ensure things like coindesk and bitcoin magazine (the normal entryways formal media pick up the story) do not announce CSW drama. thus keep CSW out of the eyes of formal media so that he does not get any fame

oh and by avoiding CSW appearing in mainstream media. he cant then claim that any drama reached the eyes of millions of people. and instead keep his petty cries to how only 4k people seen the drama thus all he can get is things like £1

[davis196]

Damn it. Now I will have to delete all my posts where I claim that Craig Wright is not Satoshi. I don't want to get sued. Norway is too far away and the weather is cold af. Craig(or his master) will have to waste lots of money in the court for so many pointless lawsuits.

funny part of all this is
ayres pays for all CSW's costs upfront. EG travel to speaking conventions and court costs. but any £1+ amounts that CSW gets, doesnt go back to ayres. so ayres has to invest more into CSW to try making CSW famous to get ROI on the book deals/movies that CSW promised him.. even if that means that ayres then has to fund the movie budget hoping for returns on the ticket sales..

This is a pretty interesting story, but it doesn't make any sense to me.
What's the point in investing money into Craig Wright, since 99% of the Bitcoiners know that he is not the real Satoshi? It seems to me that his master is wasting money on his puppet. Is it because all this court circus creates FUD that might push the Bitcoin price down? Nah, I don't believe this. Nobody in the crypto world cares about CSW anymore.

[franky1]

dave you asked.. whats the point?
obvious..
GREED

ayres was duped first off into believing CSW and threw MILLIONS into CSW(before the world announced CSW was a scammer)
CSW could not repay. when ayres realised he was a scammer. but instead of walking away with tail between his legs licking his wounds and accepting his loss. he instead doubled down. CSW promised him returns in the form of revenue from selling his story and from awards of court from his patent claims and suing people.

ayres just wants to get his millions back so is playing along to fame up CSW in the hopes to get his millions back.
the funny part is ayres is still paying out millions to CSW games.
(if CSW was any good with money. they/he should be self funding or recycling their wins. but instead CSW is repeatedly asking Ayres for new money, extra money. which yep ayres wont be able to self sustain)

[mk4]

Can't believe this fiasco is still unfinished.

Huge respects to Hodlonaut and Peter McCormack for actually fighting this, knowing how much time and effort all this requires. Fuck CSW, but if I was in their place I would've most likely simply complied.

[2stout]

csw is so full of shit, feel bad for the guys having to fight his bogus suits.  Hopefully the way the other suits haven't worked out for csw can be cited and result in the same in this one.

[so98nn]

We already know CSW is fake and if I have to vote multiple times then the answer is going to be same all the time.   That guy has already looted many peeps with the fake claims and unfortunately there are also followers of the same as you would say every devil has the gang!

Hodlonaut’s claim already has great points and their community is going to grow many folds when the court is opened and session starts. It would be interesting to see reaction of Craig when he goes down further the pothole.

[o_e_l_e_o]

So my question here is, why didn't Wright provide the 1.1million Bitcoin he claims to own when the court ordered him?

Because he can't, because he has never owned the private keys to those coins.

And why is he sueing journalist and Bitcoin developers who tries to proof he isn't the creator of Bitcoin if he really is?

Because it's the only way he has to continue this charade.

Because until he log-in Satoshi's forum account, I will still never believe he created Bitcoin.

Satoshi's account is disabled. Even Satoshi himself couldn't log in to it, without contacting theymos with some proof and getting the account unlocked first.

P.S. if Craig is reading this, you got your ass handed to you by Vitalik at that conference in 2018. Why didn't you sue him?

Probably because Vitalik owns a huge amount of Ethereum due its pre-mine, and so could easily bankroll and win any lawsuit. CSW only wants to harass people who can't fight back. Hopefully with a big community backing for Hodlonaut, we can prove that everyone has the ability to fight back against his lies.


After the massive 47 BTC donation yesterday, in the last 24 hours there has been over another 1 BTC and $5k donated. Let's keep it going.

[Kakmakr]

Imagine this scenario :

Satoshi Nakamoto sends some of his coins to a trust or a person that needs the help with litigation cost against the fake Satoshi. That will be the ultimate justice for a guy like Craig Wright. The person or persons that he says he is.... spending his coins to prove that he is not Satoshi Nakamoto. (If it was me.... I would even sign that address with a big FU Faketoshi message) 

What people does not understand is this.... every court case or settlement he wins, adds more money to his pockets to file more lawsuits against more people.... "Will you be next?" ....

[Jatiluhung]

thanks to hodlonaut you are fighting for the benefit of everyone. and you are not alone. although we cannot provide direct support. but we are here to support you. You fight with tenacious and noble not for personal gain.

CSW is so embarrassing. the reasons he makes are very, very classic. the reason for the theft or the drama is very easy to guess.

[buwaytress]

Thanks for the post. It feels like a familiar name from some years ago, and I'll go through and take the time to read this -- mind boggling for me how someone like CSW and co have somehow embroiled themselves in litigation with so many people. I just hope spirit of law, and common sense, prevails for Hodlonaut, as it has in the past against CW.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Satoshi Nakamoto sends some of his coins to a trust or a person that needs the help with litigation cost against the fake Satoshi. That will be the ultimate justice for a guy like Craig Wright. The person or persons that he says he is.... spending his coins to prove that he is not Satoshi Nakamoto. (If it was me.... I would even sign that address with a big FU Faketoshi message) 

As amazing and hilarious as it would be for Satoshi to donate to Hodlonaut, the signed message thing already happened. CSW provided in a previous court case (under oath no less) a list of bitcoin address which he claimed belonged to him. Most of these address were very early bitcoin addresses which had been inactive for years and which many people thought belonged to Satoshi. Very shortly after he provided this list, a signed message from 145 of those addresses containing a combined 7,250 BTC was published calling CSW "a liar and a fraud". Here's a thread about it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250960.

I find it incredible that this is not brought up more, particularly in subsequent court cases. His lies were definitively proven by a method which cannot be faked and anyone can verify. And yet here we are.

[Lucius]

It's amazing how persistent Faketoshi is in his intentions not only to prove that he is Satoshi, but also to attack anyone who claims otherwise. However, I am glad that individuals are opposing it, and even in this case in court, which is not easy for many of us, considering that our privacy and security are very important to us. I'm sure Faketoshi knows this very well and wants to make the most of it, as was the case with the Bitcoin whitepaper and the lawsuit against @Cøbra that Faketoshi got because @Cøbra didn't show up in court.

I find it incredible that this is not brought up more, particularly in subsequent court cases. His lies were definitively proven by a method which cannot be faked and anyone can verify. And yet here we are.

I share your opinion regarding those addresses, which I mentioned several times in my posts, but even the members of this forum do not pay much attention to it. I personally suspected that Satoshi did it, although it could be any of the early stage miners, but still someone who was very likely very attached to the project, and is still willing to defend it.

#WeAreAllHodlonaut

[mk4]

Imagine this scenario :

Satoshi Nakamoto sends some of his coins to a trust or a person that needs the help with litigation cost against the fake Satoshi. That will be the ultimate justice for a guy like Craig Wright. The person or persons that he says he is.... spending his coins to prove that he is not Satoshi Nakamoto. (If it was me.... I would even sign that address with a big FU Faketoshi message) 

I'd kill (figuratively) for that outcome. Of all the possible event/outcome that would finally end CSW's fuckery, this would literally be the most amusing one — totally destroying all his remaining(and already-broken) reputation.