[FREE RAFFLE] Cardsmiths Beryl Refractor Uncut Sheet

[JanEmil]

JanEmil - 99



Thank you MF for opening service

[Suzuki Matt]

#39 please.

[5tift]

 
Held in Customs. Your item is being held in Customs at 9:13 am on August 21, 2022 in FRANKFURT/FLUGHAFEN, GERMANY.


//Edit:

#05 - 5tift

[Ticked]

Should any one of these cards take off in value, cutting the sheet, and stamping the back with a serial number yet to be seen online would be a distinct possibility.

Even if the back of the sheet is entirely blank, at the right valuation, releasing this sheet would still pose a risk of fraudulent items on secondary market.

Though I appreciate the idea of giving back to the forum, I cannot see a way that there isn't a credibility risk at hand.

I purchased a case before this thread came up. As a collector, I now have second thoughts of opening, keeping, returning the product when my initial intention was this to be my first of multiple purchases.

If there is some distinguishing factor that makes this print differentiable between the pack released cards, it could maybe quell this risk.

Please consider.

EDIT: If this was a sheet of base cards, there is no concern imo.

I can see the validity in your concern. I would hope that the value of the sheet intact would outweigh the value of cutting it to fraudulently use them as individual cards. but if there was some distinguishing mark that would be better.

Good to see ya Ticked!

Hey Mopar!

You've highlighted another issue with this giveaway. Your hope cannot be addressed by the manor this is being released to market. Price will be speculative unless the winner sells.

Topps will sell at auction blank back half finished cards from the Topps vault. They put a hologram on back. The card is sold publicly. A value is realized and set. Those are always base cards. Never refractors.

As for sheets, well for the 2018 ginter release, Topps released not entire sheets, but rather 3 mini cards connected, uncut as a single unit. Also released at auction. Also base mini card.

The difference I see between the 3 card & the entire sheet here is that this sheet has a lot of extra material around the borders. This allows for plenty practice cutting a good edge.

Further, let's say one particular card takes off to the stratosphere in value. There are plenty of other lesser value uncut cards to practice on in order to perfect completion of the reverse side of a card.

At best - release of this item is giving away a half completed product... And it's the hard half...of a chase card.

Not only should this not be released to the market in this manner, but it should be destroyed.

Again, base cards would be a different matter.

[MoparMiningLLC]

Hey Mopar!

You've highlighted another issue with this giveaway. Your hope cannot be addressed by the manor this is being released to market. Price will be speculative unless the winner sells.

Topps will sell at auction blank back half finished cards from the Topps vault. They put a hologram on back. The card is sold publicly. A value is realized and set. Those are always base cards. Never refractors.

As for sheets, well for the 2018 ginter release, Topps released not entire sheets, but rather 3 mini cards connected, uncut as a single unit. Also released at auction. Also base mini card.

The difference I see between the 3 card & the entire sheet here is that this sheet has a lot of extra material around the borders. This allows for plenty practice cutting a good edge.

Further, let's say one particular card takes off to the stratosphere in value. There are plenty of other lesser value uncut cards to practice on in order to perfect completion of the reverse side of a card.

At best - release of this item is giving away a half completed product... And it's the hard half...of a chase card.

Not only should this not be released to the market in this manner, but it should be destroyed.

Again, base cards would be a different matter.

I cannot say I disagree - I just hope there is something that distinguishes it - either in marking or size that would prohibit them being used fraudulently

[JUPITYR]

This is indeed just a test print of the front side of these cards. 

The reverse side of the cards in the set would contain a unique, hot-foil stamp number and a hot-foil stamp (with unique pattern) Cardsmiths "C" icon logo.  Even if you have the front side, you would have a hard time pulling off the back unless you destroy another card of that same type in the process.  However, if you already have such a card, why would you destroy it just to use one form the sheet in a nefarious way?

Also, Panini and Topps have inserted printing plates or given them away as redemptions in the past. True, one can not simply take that broken down plate and recreate cards with it.  However, you could use it as a basis from which to create new printing plates of that card.

I also don't think I agree with the premise that just because a card is a "base" card that it is any more or less acceptable to be offered in terms of a contest.  Fakes are fakes and none are acceptable in my opinion.

If we were concerned that it would be easy to pass the cards from this sheet off as fakes, we would not be offering it in this way.  Ultimately, anyone can copy anything if they so choose.  Million dollar paintings and sculptures are routinely faked. 

This board has been very supportive of our set and we felt we needed to reward that support in a meaningful way.  If you disagree with what we are doing, feel free to not purchase or participate.  It certainly is your choice.

[Cryptogreatdane]

This sheets value will far outweigh the value of individual beryll cards. Its a one of kind uncut sheet. As of now the only one out there. Only an idiot would cut it up. But, sure, put something on the back to distinguish it. Might i suggest signatures from the creators.  That would be awesome

[dozerz]

64 - dozerz

i have ordererd teh cards

[minerjones]

Held in Customs. Your item is being held in Customs at 9:13 am on August 21, 2022 in FRANKFURT/FLUGHAFEN, GERMANY.

All good. You sent me a pic of your order

If you have ordered and still not received your cards, you can send me a pic of your order to qualify

User makila has also done this.

[Hookzup1]

69 hookzup1
Cards should be here soon but have this pic for now, thanks
https://imgur.com/a/x5ld31w

[pinky1234]

#44. 



image upload

[cwil]

37 please.

[Iced]

I know it's a day off, feel asleep yesterday and totally forgot it.. 

If required I can make a new one.

49. Iced

[CoinageMint]

Hope my boxes arrive this week, I would hate to miss a slot in this raffle

 Maybe theyll let you in with verification of purchase. Receipt or pic of shipping.

It looks like they arrived in the country last week, so should only be a few days before I get them.

I can provide proof of purchase if it looks close to filling up before I receive them.
Save slot #81 for me if possible

Yup, all good
I know there are a few international orders (from me and the company) that have not arrived, but we know you have purchased cards and are eligible for the raffle

I still have boxes of cards for sale... people can buy them from me to be eligible
If worried about shipping times, happy to video/picture opening packs

My first delivery finally arrived  
Here is the best 3 cards from the first box opened (025/149 beryl)  
Edit: Just hit an MR5 holofoil from the 2nd box opened 

[StackItUp]

hello, any spot please



thank you

[Mrstacy]

#25 please.  Order proof sent via pm.

[TxCryptoKid]

https://ibb.co/nnr4Lzn

Spot #52 please

[Hox]

My cards are on the way via Mantis Prime.

#85 - Hox

[nathansenn]

77 - nathansenn

[FanOfBtcLtc]

# 35 please, thank you

https://imgur.com/a/6uSthFF