The whole tipping culture in western countries is unfair and totally wrong!

[darkangel11]

In Europe tipping is not mandatory and I like it this way. I don't get how you can tip 20% of your bill to a waiter. Imagine you get more expensive food and drinks and leave 200 EUR at the restaurant, compared to someone who lives just 20. Why should you give a much bigger tip if you're letting the whole restaurant make more money?

I usually leave a tip at the restaurant but it's never a % of the bill. If I spend 20 EUR I might tip 3 EUR, but if I spend 100 I'll still tip not more than 5 EUR. Where I come from a tip is meant for a bartender or a waiter to get a drink on my tab. If a beer costs 3 EUR at a pub, that's what I'm going to tip, regardless of the money I spend there. When I go with a few friends each of us leaves 3 EUR so the guy get beers from all of us.
 

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[AmoreJaz]

In Europe tipping is not mandatory and I like it this way. I don't get how you can tip 20% of your bill to a waiter. Imagine you get more expensive food and drinks and leave 200 EUR at the restaurant, compared to someone who lives just 20. Why should you give a much bigger tip if you're letting the whole restaurant make more money?

I usually leave a tip at the restaurant but it's never a % of the bill. If I spend 20 EUR I might tip 3 EUR, but if I spend 100 I'll still tip not more than 5 EUR. Where I come from a tip is meant for a bartender or a waiter to get a drink on my tab. If a beer costs 3 EUR at a pub, that's what I'm going to tip, regardless of the money I spend there. When I go with a few friends each of us leaves 3 EUR so the guy get beers from all of us.
 

bottomline, it is all up to you. but if you want to read a lil bit of culture for every country you visited, you may do so. it will give you insights the variation of culture from one place to another and why they have such traditions. but tipping has no defined laws and regulation. if you feel you're up to it, then give it. but if it is not, like if it is already your last money, then don't force yourself. you won't be jailed because you're not tipping somebody else's service.

[bakasabo]

What is your opinion on this?



I've never been to Hawaii, but tipping there seems to be like a must. I can understand parking valets tipping, as they help to save time, concierges - as they solve your problem, porters, as they also have. But a bartender - pouring drinks seems to be their original work, why it should be tipped ?

Everything have got some reason. Bartender pouring the drinks seems to be easy. Here he need to make the perfect mix and if you ask for something unique he/she needs to make it for your taste. Above all, he is the only person who can understand well about your drinks limit and give accordingly. Another thing, if you're found dozed he too have responsibility to send you home with safety or take you to the lounge for rest. Being a bartender and receiving tips too got some good reasons 

Bartender was just an example. Maybe good, maybe bad example. My vision is that every work must be rewarded, but not every work must be rewarded extra. Giving tips for perfect drink mix? I would say yes and no. It is bartenders work to make perfect mix. Would you tip a cook if he would turn your stake into coal instead of medium ? I am to pay extra for work well done, but I am not ready to make double pay for a regular work done. For example I leave tips in restaurants, cafes, when having my hair done, tire changed. Or I would better say I leave change.

I have seen many times people say that they leave tips for waitress because they have a hard work, and they are on their feet whole day. Sales persons in shops also are on their feet whole day. But at the cash desk people pay price on items tag, they dont leave extra money. You know who also work hard ? Miners work hard, they breath polluted air, they work in difficult conditions. Think they get tips for their work?

[qwertyup23]

I do think that people are accustomed to tipping the service establishment and works. Personally, I learned to tip via watching my parents and/or other people do it. So I do think that there is this societal pressure that comes with it- the idea that you have to tip when it comes to people who do service.

Earlier, I had my haircut and I paid using e-cash. Since I do not have any cash with me, I really felt bad not leaving a tip for my barber earlier; though I told him that I'll add him twice the tip the next time I visit him.

Bottomline is, we have been accustomed to this kind of service ever since. I guess what you mentioned OP is another view and perspective about tipping; but I doubt that people would actually start to follow it anytime soon.

[Mahanton]

In Europe tipping is not mandatory and I like it this way. I don't get how you can tip 20% of your bill to a waiter. Imagine you get more expensive food and drinks and leave 200 EUR at the restaurant, compared to someone who lives just 20. Why should you give a much bigger tip if you're letting the whole restaurant make more money?

I usually leave a tip at the restaurant but it's never a % of the bill. If I spend 20 EUR I might tip 3 EUR, but if I spend 100 I'll still tip not more than 5 EUR. Where I come from a tip is meant for a bartender or a waiter to get a drink on my tab. If a beer costs 3 EUR at a pub, that's what I'm going to tip, regardless of the money I spend there. When I go with a few friends each of us leaves 3 EUR so the guy get beers from all of us.
 

bottomline, it is all up to you. but if you want to read a lil bit of culture for every country you visited, you may do so. it will give you insights the variation of culture from one place to another and why they have such traditions. but tipping has no defined laws and regulation. if you feel you're up to it, then give it. but if it is not, like if it is already your last money, then don't force yourself. you won't be jailed because you're not tipping somebody else's service.

Yes, i do also have those kind of feels where there are times which i do love to tip when i do get satisfaction on someones service even though to think that they are being paid or have salary but at least im much aware
on how low these people been earning on monthly basis which is something that we do have in reality but its not that compulsory on giving up tips.Its optional and you arent obliged on doing so.
This is why you should really not make yourself get stressed and i dont even know that why this certain topic needs to be discussed considering this action is on self will.
Im surprised that there are even workers who are really that expecting for some tip which it is a bit too much i would say.

[Adbitco]

This is very unfair, do you know there is something we don't think of at the meantime. Those classes of workers can't be characterized for any reason to those in construction workers therefore they are well paid. But if I may get something clearly about tip which is somehow called 'gratuity'. From my research and understanding, most of these workers apart from construction company and being tip that's, whatever they made during their service hours are being returned to their employer, at end of the day or week it would be included in their wages, this applicable to the delivery agent, barbershop, and restaurants. The construction workers are mostly covered with insurance so focused on the fieldwork pay rates are very comfortable.

[panganib999]

Tipping in its roots should be done willingly and not compulsively. I am thinking it has become so ubiquitous that restaurants and food establishments integrated the tipping system into their billing system which is so unfair for the waiters and the customers. On one hand it incentivizes underpaying the waiters and other food handlers coz the rest of their pay could always just be covered by the customer's tips. On one hand this pay is shouldered by the customer which let me just remind you is already covering the pay courtesy of their bill along with other taxes and amenities that are included in their receipt, leaving the restaurant with little to no responsibility in the payment of their workers.

Everyone would agree with how unfair this tipping culture has been but it has become so ingrained in the western culture that a paradigm shift is unlikely to happen, at least not anytime soon.