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October 19, 2022, 03:53:17 AM
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Only technology can help us. New age fertilizers can help fight these serious falls. Moreover we need to adopt urban farming as a new way of growing crops. While the population is shifting towards cities. We are more and more dependent on villages for our produce . We need to create better alternatives.. urban farming fits in.

Urban farming is fine for entertainment but there's no way you're going to produce a significant amount of food to feed yourself.

I like to buy organic, sustainably grown produce but with almost 8 billion people living on earth, the only way to feed them all is with intensive monoculture farming on huge tracts of land with the use of herbicides, insecticides and pesticides. More sustainable crops have been making inroads as there is more demand from people who don't mind paying more for better quality produce.

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October 19, 2022, 04:53:39 AM
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I don't completely agree with the analogy. And also, HODL might be the wrong term here. When you speak of agriculture HODL, hoarding comes to mind. And that's not good. It will drive the price crazy. There was a time when the price of garlic in my country rose to a record high because of hoarding. It resulted into an artificial shortage.

Agricultural products are mostly perishable so I don't think it is worth HODLing. Instead of HODLing, perhaps we should find more ways to increase production. So when we speak of agricultural investments, HODLing might be the wrong strategy. It should be more production-focused.

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October 20, 2022, 06:51:02 PM
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It is possible that there is someone in the world who will begin farming this year. Grow and sell a harvest. To produce more next year. Who will possibly become a millionaire through the process. Rising cost of oil and difficulty associated with shipping food products from overseas could all contribute to making it possible.
That is an interesting take on the global food situation we are facing this year. Food price have been rising for years now, but the rate at which the prices seem to go up increased a lot since the Ukraine-Russia war. Starting to grow and harvest your own food locally could be a good idea to reduce food prices if you have the land to cultivate it.
That's because the war affected the oil supply and like @hydrogen said, it affects the shipping of the products making the price rise evenly but other than oil, there's also products which are affected like the wheat, chips or the one that is found and use in computers and other electronic devices and many more. Growing your own food won't reduce the food prices but you better say that it reduces your expenses because you won't buy them this time.

The only problem is the land. It will be hard to plant a crop in the modern areas because they are mostly occupied but you can invest a land for agriculture purpose on those rural areas if you are truly serious about this.

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October 22, 2022, 04:06:21 AM
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If food shortages and price inflation hit. Agricultural HODL could become a viable business strategy.

Reading this first, I thought OP was asking about hoarding agricultural products.

Shopping in a supermarket we can see that almond nuts can sell for $10 a pound. When I see this, I wonder to myself how much time and energy would it take to grow 10,000 pounds of almonds to profit a cool $100,000. Does rain, sunshine and the tree do all of the work? If food shortages hit the price of almonds and other food assets could rise dramatically. Instead of $10 a pound. We might see $15 or $20. Profit margins could swell significantly due to circumstantial conditions. As we have seen with other markets posting record profits correlated with price inflation.

Growing crops is not as simple as that like what we get used to on farm simulator games. There are a lot of things to consider before planting food crops and sell it to make profit. If you don't have the proper knowledge about agriculture then you will need to hire someone that will assist you and that will definitely cost you money. Add to that are seedlings and pesticides used to maintain those crops until they are fully grown. You will also need to pay some farmers or machines when you planted them or ready to be harvested. You should also consider the risk of being hit by some weather climate that is not good for your crops.
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October 22, 2022, 05:33:56 AM
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As a farmer this thread is hilarious. Farming is the probably some of the hardest work you will ever do. There are no days off, summer vacations, family days... None. Your sick? so what you must work.

Remember your not making a dime until that crop sells. Many confuse gentleman farming for local markets with true ag, they ain't the same.
This will be unfair to farmers who are living fair enough to survive and to work despite all the hardships just to sustain our food necessities. We can't hold agriculture because it will affect lots of farmers and any job that is related to agriculture. It will also affect he supply and demand which could really lead to food shortages in the future. There are still other ways to earn a profit.

It’s far better if farmer do it themselves and thus let the circle of farmer to customer keep going on. It’s known fact that food which is primarily “Basic Needs” of humans will be there forever and main role is of farmer who then ultimately survives on it.

It would be bad idea to halt this process and put farmers into jeopardy as to what to do and what not for their own survival henceforth?

If weather is bad, veggies are little bit costly then but it because at least we have fixed income but farmer does not! He has to rely on the nature, extra costs of technology used for modern farming and he has lot of investment to make before he can even see his wages.

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October 22, 2022, 10:41:17 AM
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So can we all agree that Agriculture isn't as that lucrative business as someone thinks it was for a normal person to invest in? Much less talk about HODL it for the long term to drive up the price without things like storage cost and preservation since food is perishable.

Heck, since talking about farmer backgrounds, I might be honest as well. My grandma has a few hectares of land in the countryside and she leases it to some guy cause her profit margin doesn't worth the time. It was the same everywhere, Agriculture become more centralized and fall into the hand of a few with huge funds for fertilizer, high-grade farming machines to increase their ROI instead of human labor. All to make it worth their time from the low-profit margin farming. Remember Bill Gates also hoarding US farming land?
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the agricultural sector does look promising big profits. even though this sector has a large enough risk if it is not carried out by reliable farmers ( beginners).
Even some people may not understand the problem of what kind of soil is suitable for planting. because some plants are adapted to different soils and climates. for example, a coconut tree that can grow well in lowlands with a temperate or tropical temperature climate and will bear fruit heavily. but after a long time I was in Indonesia which is famous for the tropics. it turns out that coconut trees can grow in various places. but it turns out that even though coconut trees can grow well in the highlands (still in the tropics). but coconut trees tend not to bear fruit if they grow at high altitudes. I'm not saying this based on what I read. but I found these facts in the field. but it turns out that the highlands are more suitable for growing vegetables such as tomatoes, carrots, chilies, and various other vegetables. and tubers such as cassava are even more suitable in the highlands. because tubers produced from the highlands tend to be larger than those grown in the lowlands.
so the agricultural sector really has its own uniqueness and looks easy to learn when in fact it really requires a long learning and practice to be proficient in farming.

even we need to know about the level of acidity in the soil to be planted. because it plays an important role in the growth and development of our plants later. so there are many factors that must be studied if you want to enter the agricultural sector directly. Geographical location, soil type, climate etc. need to be a concern in the agricultural sector.

and the next problem in farming is fertilizer prices are getting higher and even in some countries the increase in fertilizer prices is not accompanied by an increase in the price of food harvested. For example, the price of rice has not experienced a high increase. whereas fertilizer prices have increased by more than 50% and even reached 100% for certain types of special fertilizers. This causes farmers to not get maximum profit.

even if there is a disaster or crop failure, the losses felt by farmers are really very difficult for their lives.

but if we become reliable farmers who always innovate in farming then we will still be able to get maximum profit. if we certainly want to try a little more to innovate and create our own. such as not buying fertilizer for the crops they grow. but there are smart farmers who make their own organic fertilizer by utilizing the materials that are around them. so the agricultural sector is very profitable if we really understand this sector. but it can bring harm if we jump in without first learning with mature learning.

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October 23, 2022, 09:59:22 PM
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I don't think so that will be very successful. Firstly food consumables are perishable and can't be kt hodled for long. Secondly there is a cost of storing while depreciation of value with time. Thus fall in profits. Thirdly, different countries have different laws to prevent hodling of food. So it's practically not profitable.
Yes, and wrong management of agricultural network have failed different countries. In recent days Sri Lanka is an example for the mismanagement ending in big economic crisis. As said different measures are required and the same needs to be done precisely to experience the best out of agriculture. Corporate networks have started to get into agriculture and this wil surely make agriculture not much profitable for the farmers.

There will be no food shortage if people will take advantage of the farmland they have.
But a lot are abandoning their land in replacement of better jobs.
Because many are still considering farm work as hard work, which is actually true.
You are stretching and sweating all day long if you will dedicate yourself into this endeavor.
But if the government will give attractive incentives to their agriculture, I believe some will be encouraged to continue their farming.
Hard to hodl agri products for long time as most have certain shelf life and of course, the storage aspect needs to be considered.
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