[Tutorial] How To Mix bitcoin free

[o_e_l_e_o]

I understood but it seems you misunderstood my point by which I meant because of not too strict regulations in crypto, crypto exchanges feel like they can do shady activities against their users without fear to be fined by governments.

I don't think I've misunderstood. My point is that strict regulations are exactly the reason why exchanges end up freezing accounts and seizing coins. This kind of behavior will not be decreased by stricter regulations. On the contrary, this kind of behavior is actively endorsed and promoted by governments. It is the governments passing down regulations which say all coins which haven't come from a KYC linked address or wallet are suspicious. Compare this to DEXs which are not bound by such regulations, and never freeze or seize coins or even have the ability to do so.

If the governments of the world get their way, then the only way to use bitcoin will be on a centralized exchange.

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[PrimeNumber7]

everything is done in only 15 minutes.

If you immediately withdraw your "chips" from CM, you are reducing your privacy, because there is a small set of potential in/out pairs to/from CM that could potentially belong to you.

Although there is no evidence of this that I am aware of with regards to CM specifically, there is always the risk that any mixer you are using is tracking the input/output pairs of transactions to/from their service, and/or is a government honeypot. Even if this is not the case currently, there is the potential that government authorities could eventually seize the servers of any mixer and run it while tracking inputs/outputs.

[Sarah Azhari]

I still don't know the standard for how they split. example: if I send 0.006, how many splits do I get?, is there got 0.002 splits for 3x, or I get 0.004 and 0.002? or got a full 0.006? due to the many fees to transfer it back to my wallet I will happy to reduce a split.

[o_e_l_e_o]

I still don't know the standard for how they split. example: if I send 0.006, how many splits do I get?, is there got 0.002 splits for 3x, or I get 0.004 and 0.002? or got a full 0.006? due to the many fees to transfer it back to my wallet I will happy to reduce a split.

Your session will initially be credited with the smallest number of chips which can make up your total. In your example, you will receive one 0.004 chip and one 0.002 chip. There is no 0.006 chip. You are free to split or combine those chips as many times you want before you withdraw them, though. You can choose to withdraw the 0.004 and the 0.002, you could split the 0.004 and withdraw three 0.002s, you could split them further in to 0.001s, you could then change your mind and combine them back up to a 0.004, and so on. You can store that 0.006 as a voucher, later deposit another 0.002 in a brand new session, and then import your voucher so you can combine your smaller chips in to a single 0.008 chip to minimize withdrawal fees.

You can do this process as many times as you want as long as you don't hit the button to withdraw a chip. Once you do, you will be given a private key for it on the next page and will no longer be able to split or combine it with other chips.

[Sarah Azhari]

There's something stuck in my mind, Is the tutorial thread make company loss?
because I teach how to make it free. if many know how to make it free, the company will lose the profit, or they already have another way how the money comes?.

[o_e_l_e_o]

There's something stuck in my mind, Is the tutorial thread make company loss?
because I teach how to make it free. if many know how to make it free, the company will lose the profit, or they already have another way how the money comes?.

ChipMixer have never made it a secret that you don't pay a set fee and only pay as much as you want for their service. They say as much on their ANN thread, and they also make it clear in the FAQs on their site. This is already well known throughout the community, and they clearly have a sufficient revenue stream given that they are the most popular and longest running bitcoin mixer in operation.

So no, I wouldn't worry about this thread.

[Sarah Azhari]

So no, I wouldn't worry about this thread.

There is too many scam site when I google it [chipmixer],
for example, this site

Code:

https://darknetone.com/market/chipmixer/

That site direct me to visit not as chipmixer official, they list similar with domain .pro

Code:

https://chipmixer.pro

so, in this case, what can official do?. are they report it?
how to make a scammer don't create a similar one?
can we report google to court

[Pmalek]

There is too many scam site when I google it [chipmixer]

Don't google ChipMixer. All the results lead to fake phishing sites. The only valid link is on position #4 (at least on my end) and shows the latest Bitcointalk forum posts of the user ChipMixer.

Bookmark the official website or memorize it and only access it that way. It will show you the correct onion link that you can use with the TOR browser. Theoretically, the official .com website can be targeted and even hacked, and maybe the official .onion link gets replaced with a fake one. It's a good idea to doublecheck if the .onion address is the same one as shown on ChipMixer's ANN page. That gives you a bit of extra security.   

[o_e_l_e_o]

can we report google to court

You can report the sites to Google to have them delisted, but this will achieve almost nothing. Firstly, Google are quite happy to accept money from proven scams to either run ads at the top of every page with those scams, or to bump those scams up their search results. Google don't care if you lose all your money to a scam you find via their search engine. All they care about is their profits. Secondly, even if you succeed in getting one of these scam sites delisted, it will be replaced by two more within 24 hours.

You could try taking Google to court, but their various Terms of Use are very explicit that they will in no way be held responsible for things you find via their search results. And they can afford much better lawyers than you can.

You should never use a search engine to find an important site, be that ChipMixer, a wallet, an exchange, a bank, or so on. And you should just stop using all Google products altogether. Follow Pmalek's advice above and find the true link from this forum.

[BitMaxz]

interesting tutorial . but when i access the link you provided, i get a warning like that. i already use DNS 1.1.1.1 for the private connection that the website asks for. so i don't continue.

Like other said it's TOR link you can't just simply access it with normal browser you nedd to use TOR browser to access it but if you don't want to install TOR browser then you can access it with normal browser by adding .ws at the end of TOR url. I don't know if it is safe to use onion.ws but I hope someone can clear this here.

so, in this case, what can official do?. are they report it?
how to make a scammer don't create a similar one?
can we report google to court

Like the other said reporting them will do nothing and if you report it to Google what they can do only is to remove it on their SERP and nothing else.

If you want to report them then check the domain whois if where it was hosted and try to take them down by contacting them.
Or you can report it to US-CERT and Anti-Phishing Working Group (APWG).

[LeGaulois]

People should never use onion.ws onion.city, onion.direct, and any onion domain that doesn't end only with .onion

They're Tor2Web proxies and they can be very harmful if the person doesn't know how they work behind the scene.
They see everything, from the credentials you use, know the IP of the user, what you upload, and cookies, they track users via Google Analytics, and so on. I could talk about the DNS too.

it defeats the whole anonymity and a lot of links are malicious as well

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https://medium.com/@c5/tor2web-proxies-are-using-google-analytics-to-secretly-track-users-fd245dbc81c5

[o_e_l_e_o]

but if you don't want to install TOR browser then you can access it with normal browser by adding .ws at the end of TOR url.

Never do this! In addition to what LeGaulois has said above in that you lose absolutely all your privacy, it is trivial for such a service to insert their own bitcoin deposit address or redirect you to their own malicious site and simply steal any bitcoin you deposit.

Downloading, verifying, and installing Tor is simple, quick, and free. There is no reason not to do it if you are interested in your privacy.

https://www.torproject.org/download/
https://support.torproject.org/tbb/how-to-verify-signature/

[Lucius]

People should never use onion.ws onion.city, onion.direct, and any onion domain that doesn't end only with .onion

Honestly, I didn't even know that such a thing existed, and especially that such domains collect so much data about those who use them. Given that CM uses only the TOR link, those who use regular browsers could find themselves targeted by phishing from such domains. Unfortunately, the average internet user does not understand what TOR is compared to a classic browser, and privacy is a category that is somewhere very low on the list of priorities for many.

[Pmalek]

Given that CM uses only the TOR link, those who use regular browsers could find themselves targeted by phishing from such domains. Unfortunately, the average internet user does not understand what TOR is compared to a classic browser...

That is sadly true. Someone who heard about onion links for the first time could look it up on a search engine to see what comes up. Since Google is the most widely used search engine, I will use that. "how to open onion links" shows an article suggesting to download and use TOR. So far so good. But if we look a little further down, we can learn how to access .onion sites without using TOR and how to do it with Chrome. That's where you get recommendations to use those alternative domains. Since people prefer the easy route, adding two or three characters to the end of a link is easier than downloading and installing a new internet browser. 

[o_e_l_e_o]

Given that CM uses only the TOR link, those who use regular browsers could find themselves targeted by phishing from such domains.

Even when ChipMixer used a clearnet site too, plenty of non-Tor users were targeted by phishing (and still are) from fake clearnet sites on Google and other search engines.

Unfortunately, the average internet user does not understand what TOR is compared to a classic browser, and privacy is a category that is somewhere very low on the list of priorities for many.

Sure, but if someone is going to be using ChipMixer, then they are not the average "I have nothing to hide so I share my entire life on Facebook" type person. They are, at least, marginally interested in taking their privacy seriously, and they can discover what Tor is with 30 seconds of reading at https://www.torproject.org/

But if we look a little further down, we can learn how to access .onion sites without using TOR and how to do it with Chrome.

And if someone Googles "chipmixer" they will also end up on phishing sites.

There is no way to prevent every possible avenue of user error. The chipmixer.com clearnet site makes it clear that you need the Tor browser to use ChipMixer.

[dkbit98]

Like other said it's TOR link you can't just simply access it with normal browser you nedd to use TOR browser to access it but if you don't want to install TOR browser then you can access it with normal browser by adding .ws at the end of TOR url. I don't know if it is safe to use onion.ws but I hope someone can clear this here.

I would never do what you say to access Chipmixer, especially if newbie member is doing this.
It's not that hard to download and install Tor browser, but if that is not available you can always open the same onion link with Brave browser (fork of Chromium browser).
This should not be used as standard browser for mixing, but only as alternative option with less strict settings than Tor browser.

[BitMaxz]

It's not that hard to download and install the Tor browser, but if that is not available you can always open the same onion link with Brave browser (fork of Chromium browser).

How do you successfully access Chipmixer with Brave browser?

It seems it doesn't work for me I tried accessing the TOR links but this is the result.



Is there a need to change the Brave settings or something to make the .onion links accessible?

[o_e_l_e_o]

I wouldn't recommend anyone uses Brave at all, but I definitely wouldn't recommend using it for anything sensitive to do with either bitcoin or privacy. Despite their marketing, they are not a privacy browser. Brave accepts money from entities like Facebook and Twitter to allow them to track you. They accept money from ad companies to serve you their specific ads, which are of course tailored based on your browsing history and other information. They take money from Binance to inject Binance's code and widgets in to the browser, which again are used to track you. The last people I would want to be able to see me visiting any privacy site or using any privacy solution are the likes of Binance and Facebook.

Just use Tor. It takes 2 minutes to download and run.

[Pmalek]

How do you successfully access Chipmixer with Brave browser?
It seems it doesn't work for me I tried accessing the TOR links but this is the result.
Is there a need to change the Brave settings or something to make the .onion links accessible?

It's not going to work in a normal session, meaning you can't open a new tab and insert a .onion link into Brave browser. You need to create a new private window with Tor.
You should be able to access it by clicking on the 3 lines in the top right corner. It allows you to add a new tab, open a new window, but you want to click on "new private window with Tor". 

[dkbit98]

How do you successfully access Chipmixer with Brave browser?

Can't you see a little icon showing up in right side of address bar in Brave browser?
You click on that icon and new Tor window opens up with Chipmixer or any other onion website.
However, I said before that I am not recommending that to be used as Tor daily driver.

And on technical level, Brave still create unique browser fingerprint which could be used to track user.

I think you might be wrong about that, and you need to do more research about this, because brave is randomizing fingerprints each time.
I am not sure how this works on their Tor window, and I am not endorsing Brave browser in any way, just correcting what you said.