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September 06, 2022, 03:22:45 PM
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This forum record the whole IP address, if they're come from a same person, they will got banned by the administrator.
They don't get banned, they are only unable to post upon registration, that is the IP and Evil fee ban, but if they pay a small fee or are whitelisted, then they can post normally like other members. Even if they have all the record, the forum administrator does not ban members through connected or similar IP.

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September 06, 2022, 03:27:38 PM
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how non-alt accounts enrolling a same campaign can be unethical.
You must explain how it is unethical.

I was supposed not to respond here again. I had removed the feedback but seems you are not happy with that. You started spamming via PM and asking the same question here over and over. So I had to re-write the feedback and answer again here.

Non-alt accounts enrolling in the same campaign isn't unethical. But, Connected alts that trying to be a different person enrolling in the same campaign is unethical.

The reason why they're angry is you're drag them to get banned (evade ban) not spam case. I have no intention to give you counter question, but what if someone accuse you're ban evader? I believe you're also angry.

Can you please quote where I accused them as ban evaders? Don't mix up the cases, please.

This forum record the whole IP address, if they're come from a same person, they will got banned by the administrator.

Forum administrators don't have time to check everyone's IPs and ban them. People Use VPNs. If you use VPN, You might be using someone else IP right now. To not make mistakes, Forum deployed an IP ban (Evil fees ) system.

I remember a guy asked theymos, Does it mean I can create another account even after I get banned? theymos answered, Yes. Each time you get banned, The evil fees will be higher (I am unable to find the thread now) So, to get ban evader banned, you have to find the connection and report manually.

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September 06, 2022, 03:45:11 PM
Last edit: September 06, 2022, 03:59:55 PM by darewaller
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I was supposed not to respond here again.
Why?

You started spamming via PM and asking the same question here over and over.
You were the first one to send me a PM. So, you cannot escape by saying "no more response here".

I was supposed not to respond here again. I had removed the feedback but seems you are not happy with that. You started spamming via PM and asking the same question here over and over. So I had to re-write the feedback and answer again here.
When I asked you to respond, no tag was removed.

Non-alt accounts enrolling in the same campaign isn't unethical. But, Connected alts that trying to be a different person enrolling in the same campaign is unethical.
You are coining new terms to back your ego (firstly "connected accounts" and now "connected alts"). You were proved wrong on tracking blockchain and you agreed that still what you expect to clear tags? Do I need to contact on telegram to beg?

All you need is, accept your mistakes; remove the tag; remember all the suggestions made to you. Move on.

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September 06, 2022, 03:53:17 PM
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And until there is clear evidence, it is difficult to directly accuse people of fraud.
This is quite a difficult job. If one person owns these accounts, one could applaud.
Yep, since it's too difficult it make it's difficult to choose whether the investigation by @Crypt0S0ul is correct or not, which is we can't draw the line.

Even if they have all the record, the forum administrator does not ban members through connected or similar IP.
I still remember @theymos post about his detective work to compile the whole alts by IP address, but I'm unable to find the post. This mean it's possible for @theymos ban the account by IP address matched with the ban evaders.

Can you please quote where I accused them as ban evaders? Don't mix up the cases, please.
Sorry I'm wrong, it's a different case I read on your thread. But seeing the thread that you accuse they're have intention to participate a same campaign is deserve a red flag too, getting red flag is similar like banned since your journey in this forum already destroyed.

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September 06, 2022, 04:11:13 PM
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Don't you feel awkward on asking me where and why I spend my bitcoins? You are not my government legal/tax entity to ask such questions.
Please tell me how much you earn per month, where you live, provide a copy of your drivers license, and explain in details how you spent your money between February 14 and March 14 last year Cheesy

You forgot to ask about any identifying tattoos or birthmarks, and the name of his first-born male child.   Tongue

Really, who the fuck do these people think they are?  After behaving this way for the last two or three years, one would think that the more rational DT members purge them from their inclusions.  It's like they've all gotten so drunk on power they have to intimidate and harass less prominent members to give their lives meaning.

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September 06, 2022, 04:18:43 PM
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I still remember @theymos post about his detective work to compile the whole alts by IP address, but I'm unable to find the post. This mean it's possible for @theymos ban the account by IP address matched with the ban evaders.

I am not sure if you are talking bout this one;

I see no particular evidence of Bazinga442 being an alt, but the other six five (edit: zin-zang may not be part of this circle) are all the same person. They will be blacklisted from the DT selection system in the future. Haven't decided whether this abuse warrants a forum ban.

After some investigation, this is a circle of 58 accounts, most of which have 10+ merit. IDs:
2061631
1658865
1609508
1586656
1586585
1586551
1586457
1586404
1575750
1575704
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But yes. Theymos can figure out alts.

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September 06, 2022, 04:18:47 PM
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I still remember @theymos post about his detective work to compile the whole alts by IP address, but I'm unable to find the post. This mean it's possible for @theymos ban the account by IP address matched with the ban evaders.
Theymos can, but won't use that approach, it can cause many mistakes and members that aren't the ban evaders themselves may get banned, that is why the forum uses the proxyban method to ban members who share evil or banned ip's, but this takes place when they register, and getting whitelisted or paying a small fee solves the problem.

Are you sure Theymos ever said he will compile 'the whole' alts by IP addresses? Theymos answers just once out of a thousand times his attention is needed, surely he would not involve himself in any detective work that will be more time consuming.

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September 06, 2022, 04:48:53 PM
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Do you believe my argument is invalid, and I am accusing them without any reason?
I can't really tell, your "evidence" isn't convincing.

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I saw they did some transactions with the three accounts
So what's the problem? The whole point of Bitcoin is to make transactions. Sending from A to B doesn't mean they belong to the same person, that would happen if A and B both send funds in one transaction to C. But even then, it could be coinjoin, or it could even be A shared their private key with B. It happens!
Blockchain evidence always requires an interpretation.

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As you can see, I just wanted to know if he had some business deal or what connection he has with the two of them.
It's none of your business. He may choose to disclose his deals, but if he doesn't, it proves nothing. Ask me about my business deals: if I wanted them to be public, I would have created a thread when I made the deal.

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I believe in the future; You will see a lot of ban evaders here on the platform. You will understand. But, you will end up watching them. If scammers and cheaters also do the same.
That's been happening for years.



All you need is, accept your mistakes; remove the tag; remember all the suggestions made to you. Move on.
Or, you just move on Tongue You're putting way too much weight on a non-DT neutral tag. Anyone can leave any feedback they want. Check The Pharmacist's Untrusted feedback and scroll down real quick. It means nothing Smiley



But yes. Theymos can figure out alts.
From the history of Bitcointalk:
A year or two ago I was researching fingerprinting techniques that'd work against pretty much anyone with JavaScript enabled, and I found several promising leads on that front. But then it occurred to me that I don't really want bitcointalk.org to be known as the #1 forum on the leading edge of de-anonymization technology, so I stopped pursuing it seriously...

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September 07, 2022, 04:56:35 AM
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In my opinion, if the forum adjusted the rules about only full rank members being able to join the bounty then I'm sure less cheaters would be caught. This will obviously force every newbie to post something quality to rank up to full members and each and every one of them will no longer be able to go straight to the forum just to spam their social media with a new altcoin project.

You're very right here and i also supported that, there should be a supporting rules that can limit the engagement of newbies directly on the hunt for bounty since such is applicable in most signature campaign that you must be a member or full member as the case may be by the signature campaign rules before you can get enrolled for a campaign, when such is place on bounty sections as well, i think it will definitely go dome miles in reducing the ever increasing pumps on alts and the existing ones will not want to misbehave because they know what it takes to get 100 merits before joining a campaign.



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September 07, 2022, 06:50:26 AM
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there should be a supporting rules that can limit the engagement of newbies directly
I like how you put it, it's very close to what theymos called "very harmful":
Limiting newbie participation is very harmful for a community. Newbie jail will never return: I consider the newbie-jail period to have been extremely damaging to the forum. When barriers to participation are too high, then the best people often just won't go to the trouble of joining, and the people who are willing to jump through the hoops are often people who aren't good for the community: people with nothing better to do, scammers, get-rick-quickers, etc. Having a permanent newbie jail policy would improve things a lot in the short-term, but would end up being a fatal poison to the community.

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