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December 12, 2023, 08:34:46 PM
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But no matter how much we argue “which ice is worse”, the fact of rising sea levels is a FACT
https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a000000/a005100/a005114/seaLevelWaveTank_6-24-2023a_wavetank.mp4

you do realise that tides change by meters a couple times a day and that video only shows 10cm variance over decades

no 2 times are the same and taking any measurement even by a couple minute variance of the 'peak tide' twice daily and based on if its summer or winter can produce more then a 10cm variance

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February 10, 2024, 09:49:41 AM
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This is the second most important part of climate change, but people could keep on ignoring it and denying science. That's what the world is at these days, denying a scientific data is what people like to boast about these days, it's not like the yare secretly denying science, they are talking about how proud they are. There are politicians all around the world who say they do not believe in "climate change BS" and get votes for saying that, the humanity has gone that stupid, this isn't something you deny or accept, it's a fact, it's reality, it's proven data, you do not "believe" that humans breath oxygen, it's science, it's data, same goes here.

The bigger problem is the drought, even though it may look like sea levels rising means water, the reality is that inlands will be very drought, and farming will become much harder, and there will be plenty of fires all around, so food will be much scarce as well. This is a much bigger thread, not finding anything clean to drink and not be able to afford to eat.
In addition, the melting of glaciers adds another big problem to humanity. The ice melts and exposes the continental land, which has been in a state of permafrost for many centuries and even millennia. All frozen bacteria are now awakening and will inevitably enter the human environment. Among them will be the causative agents of various deadly and previously unknown or long-gone diseases. Therefore, to all the predicted misfortunes, this big problem will also be added.

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February 10, 2024, 10:51:40 AM
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This is actually a "Frog in the Pot" scenario, where the world are cooked slowly and they never see the disaster, until everything goes to shit. It will be very different, if a huge chuck of ice break away and you suddenly see massive flooding on coastal towns... then people will sit up and take notice.

"absolute sea level has risen at an average rate of 0.06 inches per year from 1880 to 2013 (see Figure 1). Since 1993, however, average sea level has risen at a rate of 0.12 to 0.14 inches per year—roughly twice as fast as the long-term trend." - Source : https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-sea-level

Do you think average people care about 0.12 to 0.14 inches per year?  ... I think the only people who will notice that, are people living at the beach or close to the ocean.  Tongue

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February 10, 2024, 12:29:17 PM
Last edit: February 10, 2024, 12:46:45 PM by franky1
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This is actually a "Frog in the Pot" scenario, where the world are cooked slowly and they never see the disaster, until everything goes to shit. It will be very different, if a huge chuck of ice break away and you suddenly see massive flooding on coastal towns... then people will sit up and take notice.

"absolute sea level has risen at an average rate of 0.06 inches per year from 1880 to 2013 (see Figure 1). Since 1993, however, average sea level has risen at a rate of 0.12 to 0.14 inches per year—roughly twice as fast as the long-term trend." - Source : https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-sea-level

Do you think average people care about 0.12 to 0.14 inches per year?  ... I think the only people who will notice that, are people living at the beach or close to the ocean.  Tongue

lessons to learn from people in the 1800's
if you live on "marsh common" or "boggy street" or "the glades" [insert thousand of examples of names related to wetlands]
know that some deplorable real estate developer built your house on KNOWN flood risks
same goes for beach front real estate too

so when it does flood. dont be fooled by "oh thats climate change" first sue them for building on known flood/wetlands and then realise why there were no houses on that land for 2000 years before your house was build on it

and yes that includes beach real estate
building on beachland is obvious to cause issues

oh and for future reference. even without seeing wetlands.. dont buy real estate on the grand canyons or other spots known for erosion..

im from the UK. we have alot of sea towns that are hundreds of years old.. but do you also know what most of those towns build hundreds of years ago. HUGE WALLS

yep even hundreds of years ago. those wanting to build near the coast would look at the land. notice cliffs (land erosion) and realise 2 things.
1. not proper location to build a house
2. lets build a huge wall first to defend against erosion. and then build a house

this century in silly places like america however, they just build houses into the natural dunes/ coastline and think that insurance companies will cover the problems later.. and to ensure insurers pay out instead of saying it was not covered due to a "act of god" clause. they now call sea erosion a human caused event

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i still laugh sometimes when comparing the UK's current response to "climate change" compared to history
london when at the smoggiest of the old coal fired house fireplaces where chimney sweepers were a big business and smog was a regular occurance. london suffered the worse FROST periods

most of current response to "carbon" is not about sealevels. but its actually about the dwindling supplies of carbon which will see oil and coal reserves depleted by 2050-2060 anyways.. but requires FUNDING now to pay for conversion to renewables before the fossil reserves run out..

pay particular attention to what the words "renewable" and "sustainable" actually mean in regards to words like "oil reserves"..
as oppose to the media definitions that pretend the words relate to "healing planet", "reversing temperatures"

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May 23, 2024, 04:23:01 AM
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This is actually a "Frog in the Pot" scenario, where the world are cooked slowly and they never see the disaster, until everything goes to shit. It will be very different, if a huge chuck of ice break away and you suddenly see massive flooding on coastal towns... then people will sit up and take notice.

"absolute sea level has risen at an average rate of 0.06 inches per year from 1880 to 2013 (see Figure 1). Since 1993, however, average sea level has risen at a rate of 0.12 to 0.14 inches per year—roughly twice as fast as the long-term trend." - Source : https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-sea-level

Do you think average people care about 0.12 to 0.14 inches per year?  ... I think the only people who will notice that, are people living at the beach or close to the ocean.  Tongue
Let me disagree with you. Now the average person is already feeling climate change on our planet. Every year and almost every season, temperatures break absolute records for the entire observation period. I live in Ukraine and here, due to the constant increase in temperature, the summer period is becoming much longer, and the winters are shorter and have little snow. In the event of a sharp melting of glaciers, flooding of the southern regions of the country is predicted. But in general, the climate in Ukraine will remain good, there will simply be a change in the cultivation of different crops. However, due to changing winds, currents, and sudden changes in warm and cold air, agriculture will remain in an extreme risk zone for a long time.

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