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September 20, 2022, 06:13:37 AM
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Is @joeperry really @joeperry?
Or is it just an another hacked account recovered from the bitcointalk data leaked in May 2015 ?
Any thoughts?

I've got proofs for what I say.

Exciting to see @joeperry's responses.

Grateful for all the responses received about.(no matter bad or good).
Lemme clear out the case here.

I'm an account seller. I DO ACCEPT THAT. But aslike all, I'm doing it to earn a living. This doesn't mean there's no hardwork and I should be pointed out partiating.

I was the owner of Joeperry till 14/09/2020. Which obviously I bough back in 2018 and worked hard posting regularly. I don't know where i went wrong but I lost control on 14/09/2020. Which points out that the account was hacked from me.

Coming back on forum to sell my rest maintained account i saw joeperry. I remember every account I sell. It was him who stole it from me. Maybe it was sold again. I don't know but it was illegitimately acquired and that's what I'm reporting here.

Btw, it aint hard to earn reputation and so did the current owner of joeperry. My heart's with you if it was resold to you by the jacker. But this report must be bought up.

I'm working hard similar to others no matter what the work is. Please don't abscond me.
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September 20, 2022, 06:46:01 AM
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Is @joeperry really @joeperry?
Or is it just an another hacked account recovered from the bitcointalk data leaked in May 2015 ?
Any thoughts?

I've got proofs for what I say.

Exciting to see @joeperry's responses.

are these rhetorical questions or what?
why don't you post all the evidence right away? why are you trying to create new drama?
Post your proof and let the community determine if your proofs are clear enough. at the same time, keep in mind, that if it is about your assumptions and insinuations, it is not certain how valid they are, because you are an account reseller.

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September 20, 2022, 07:44:01 AM
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I've got proofs for what I say.
Where is the proof?

That you hacked it and sold it? Saying that because you are an account seller. Seen on your trust feedback page.

Come up with evidence.

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September 20, 2022, 08:31:41 AM
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His first post (now deleted)

https://ninjastic.space/post/1801784

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Hi I´m Joeperry from Spain, and I hope that I would be Helpful to others, and you to me  Grin , cheers!!

This is nice but maybe there is a more detailed information about other countries, actually in Philippines I remember that our national sports is Sepak Takraw which is really an entertaining game and a little bit hard but double checking it in the internet it is replaced by Arnis, I actually didn't know that but most of the Filipinos really do love basket ball more than the football.

I don't know where the change occurred but if it did in 2015 then it means that all the ratings he received are from the actual owner and not inherited from the former one.



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September 20, 2022, 09:03:43 AM
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I don't know where the change occurred but if it did in 2015 then it means that all the ratings he received are from the actual owner and not inherited from the former one.

There's a long gap indeed in his posting - between 2014-07-14 and 2018-02-17 from what I see - when anything could have happened.
But this is so long ago I also agree: his current actions / ratings tell he's okay; he has none from before 2018.


So I won't rule out it's an account that has changed hands, but imho it has proven to still be worthy.
I won't also rule out that OP may have been selling the account to current owner back then, hence having evidence (and I also don't rule out he wants/wanted to squeeze some more money off joeperry for the info he might have).
But imho it doesn't matter. Not in this case.

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September 20, 2022, 09:14:53 AM
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Account trading is allowed here but discouraged. If I'm correct, few years back, it was not a secret and a lot of people was involved in account trading. But now things have changed. If the account was traded before the transition period, there's nothing wrong.
I would also appreciate a response from joeperry and of course, something positive. His current feedbacks are not so old.

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September 20, 2022, 11:52:46 AM
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I've got proofs for what I say.

I'm confused by your mindset. If you want to make a new drama, why don't you just prove it right away, if you have one?

but if you have proof I will assume that this case is account trading. not account hacking. if see the tags on your account.

rather than building a wild opinion in a new drama, I think you can provide the evidence you have. it will be highly appreciated by forum members.


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This is on what basis, does the account bears another username with thesame details, or was it an already banned account suddenly activating? information giving by you isn't complete and not making sense, just a phrase to say that give no light on a specific area for raising alarm or are you just trying to cause FUD on reputation or what exactly the problem is, no reference, no details and no proof, but it's a pity that this is coming from you, a user with already 3 -tive tags, it won't surprise us if your intention is what we are thinking about.
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Hmm, it's appalling when I see some 4 liner, baseless fact with no validated proof to show forth. I see you've gotten some company of red tags so without looking at that -- coupled with your baseless insinuations -- is it supposed to mean that you're against account sales? Cus I have seen pretty much that the references to those tags are still pointing out that you're involved in the same crime as what you're tryna expose which is NONSENSICAL.

Dude, you should prolly get a nap so you'd calm your worthless brain cells, maybe they'd give out some more stupid facts when you're awake?!
Like I'm always angry when I read some compiled crap like this one.

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Hmm, it's appalling when I see some 4 liner, baseless fact with no validated proof to show forth. I see you've gotten some company of red tags so without looking at that -- coupled with your baseless insinuations -- is it supposed to mean that you're against account sales? Cus I have seen pretty much that the references to those tags are still pointing out that you're involved in the same crime as what you're tryna expose which is NONSENSICAL.

Dude, you should prolly get a nap so you'd calm your worthless brain cells, maybe they'd give out some more stupid facts when you're awake?!
Like I'm always angry when I read some compiled crap like this one.

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I also don't think the proof is enough to call someone out, also look at the OP's rating.
OP's calling out someone and having similar -ve feedback.
Who knows if OP sold the account they're claiming to have then won't come back to haunt the buyer.
Account selling and buying were made illegal on the forum for many reasons.
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September 20, 2022, 03:33:43 PM
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Is @joeperry really @joeperry?
Or is it just an another hacked account recovered from the bitcointalk data leaked in May 2015 ?
Any thoughts?

I've got proofs for what I say.

Exciting to see @joeperry's responses.
Post your evidences then you can have opinions from others, simply posting the question will be considered as troll most of the times.

It may be hacked, or not.


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September 20, 2022, 06:49:33 PM
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Grateful for all the responses received about.(no matter bad or good).
Lemme clear out the case here.

I'm an account seller. I DO ACCEPT THAT. But aslike all, I'm doing it to earn a living. This doesn't mean there's no hardwork and I should be pointed out partiating.

I was the owner of Joeperry till 14/09/2020. Which obviously I bough back in 2018 and worked hard posting regularly. I don't know where i went wrong but I lost control on 14/09/2020. Which points out that the account was hacked from me.

Coming back on forum to sell my rest maintained account i saw joeperry. I remember every account I sell. It was him who stole it from me. Maybe it was sold again. I don't know but it was illegitimately acquired and that's what I'm reporting here.

Btw, it aint hard to earn reputation and so did the current owner of joeperry. My heart's with you if it was resold to you by the jacker. But this report must be bought up.

I'm working hard similar to others no matter what the work is. Please don't abscond me.
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Grateful for all the responses received about.(no matter bad or good).
Lemme clear out the case here.
<...>

You still haven't provided any evidence for your claims. Why should anyone believe you?
Can you prove that you were the owner of that account at any time?

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September 20, 2022, 10:47:20 PM
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I was the owner of Joeperry till 14/09/2020. Which obviously I bough back in 2018 and worked hard posting regularly. I don't know where i went wrong but I lost control on 14/09/2020. Which points out that the account was hacked from me.

If we talking about this joeperry can you sign or even send a specific amount from any of the addresses used by this account? that would certainly come if you had control over that account at some time.
I find a few of them on https://ninjastic.space/user/id/97179?addresses

Code:
1Hw1548LnvDB9jTUagtFKNMX51MDc7YYRx
bc1q06cycdzp8sz9s7e2gztgxmwlk50422aklqr5j6
bc1qpqj6pyza3ystldravcaherppgrkysqgk27makt

0x801a9C79e5e7C5e6377f7EF65B1C7d81CA831Ec1
0x9a72581578DC63c751aE7CFE0Fd014913282F969

btw. did you contact him and refer him to this topic?

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Last edit: September 21, 2022, 09:36:31 AM by Mr. Big
 #15

Grateful for all the responses received about.(no matter bad or good).
Lemme clear out the case here.
<...>

You still haven't provided any evidence for your claims. Why should anyone believe you?
Can you prove that you were the owner of that account at any time?

It's so obvious that the account has changed hands first in 2018 and later in 2020.
I don't want to claim the account back but just want to bring the incident in limelight.

I've seen numerous accounts getting tagged for changing hands so I might just wait and watch how fair the community here is to everyone. Personally, more than 50 of mine accounts were tagged for changing hands. :/

Sometimes I really feel like decentralisation isn't of much help. Partiality comes into play. Full stop.



I was the owner of Joeperry till 14/09/2020. Which obviously I bough back in 2018 and worked hard posting regularly. I don't know where i went wrong but I lost control on 14/09/2020. Which points out that the account was hacked from me.

If we talking about this joeperry can you sign or even send a specific amount from any of the addresses used by this account? that would certainly come if you had control over that account at some time.
I find a few of them on https://ninjastic.space/user/id/97179?addresses

Code:
1Hw1548LnvDB9jTUagtFKNMX51MDc7YYRx
bc1q06cycdzp8sz9s7e2gztgxmwlk50422aklqr5j6
bc1qpqj6pyza3ystldravcaherppgrkysqgk27makt

0x801a9C79e5e7C5e6377f7EF65B1C7d81CA831Ec1
0x9a72581578DC63c751aE7CFE0Fd014913282F969

btw. did you contact him and refer him to this topic?
I might hold keys for some of the above addresses but I don't have any intentions to claim back this account again so it might not be worth wasting the time. I just want to clear the stuff and know how the account was jacked from me by  the current owner of @Joeperry.

I'm tring to contact him since a month but don't know why he's ignoring me.. He shouldn't do this if he is not at fault. Even tagging him here won't work. Maybe he is intentionally ignoring this thread.
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I was the owner of Joeperry till 14/09/2020. Which obviously I bough back in 2018 and worked hard posting regularly. I don't know where i went wrong but I lost control on 14/09/2020. Which points out that the account was hacked from me.
Coming back on forum to sell my rest maintained account i saw joeperry. I remember every account I sell. It was him who stole it from me. Maybe it was sold again. I don't know but it was illegitimately acquired and that's what I'm reporting here.
If you are the owner of the account until 14/09/2020 and the account changes hands after that date isn't it quite strange that he can sign messages in 2021 via the same bitcoin address posted in 2018
maybe you forgot that you have sold this account along with the PK of the btc address

MY BTC ADDRESS:
17L9a3YXnKqHXuh2RTuVKUmwCVCwb6KMUu

Quoted, but this proves nothing. You must sign a message to prove actual ownership.

EDIT: Read this to understand how to properly sign a message: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0

Sorry I used a web wallet and it does not support signing an address. If it's still possible I created an electrum account and create a wallet which supports signed message. Please quote & Verify it. Thank you.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is JoePerry from Bitcointalk.org and today is August 28, 2018
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1Hw1548LnvDB9jTUagtFKNMX51MDc7YYRx
IMSKsS2QWMiGH1E/6wEgnHPxRqhOv0hxN6bbx8jdqJDeDN3r+HyF4HymlUeaD+gMVSFIhozpZasUadUNQrVjOmg=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Hello, I'm back again in the forum to do some business and catch up with the crypto while finishing my degree.



-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
It's joeperry, I'm back at the forum though I'm still finising my degree I want to go back again here in the forum.

This is to prove that I'm back, just like what I have posted before that I should provide a signed message.

Also I managed to recover my telegram account @jperryc
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1Hw1548LnvDB9jTUagtFKNMX51MDc7YYRx
IA61iINqmQX8H4f5Gqtykzxu1Z/Od6q0q/3EXpJPyT7Bb3LuOna01NDsYtlKQrh6McwnI45HrmbQbmb3BWywQzQ=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

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September 21, 2022, 07:27:22 AM
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I might hold keys for some of the above addresses but I don't have any intentions to claim back this account again so it might not be worth wasting the time. I just want to clear the stuff and know how the account was jacked from me by  the current owner of @Joeperry.

You might hold the keys? Why such a vague statement? Either you hold the keys or you don't.
To clear things up, you need to prove your words, and the only way to do this is by providing evidence. Otherwise this is just a empty story and no one will believe you.

I'm tring to contact him since a month but don't know why he's ignoring me.. He shouldn't do this if he is not at fault. Even tagging him here won't work. Maybe he is intentionally ignoring this thread.

If it were me, I'd probably ignore this thread too, until someone posted something worth responding to. Partiality has nothing to do with this discussion. Until you can prove your case, I don't see any reason to discuss it further.

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I'm tring to contact him since a month but don't know why he's ignoring me.. He shouldn't do this if he is not at fault. Even tagging him here won't work. Maybe he is intentionally ignoring this thread.

Your account woke up a few days ago, what month are you talking about? In addition, you can claim all accounts that have some pause in activity and accuse them of having stolen your account due to your own carelessness.
Why joeperry? There are cooler accounts.
Do not be shy.

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I've got proofs for what I say.
Where is the proof?

That you hacked it and sold it? Saying that because you are an account seller. Seen on your trust feedback page.

Come up with evidence.
From what I understand in OP, he isn't claiming to have hacked it himself.  In summary,
+He originally owned Joeperry (Either through the leak in 2015 as stated or created the account) I wasn't around in 2015
+ He sold Joeperry (Below is a quote to support #Bought back)
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Which obviously I bough back in 2018
+ Then it was hacked from him on 14/09/2020.

You could correct me if am wrong.

If my above summary might be true, then there are some questions to these claims.
Haven't sould the account previously,
1. Why going to buy it back?
Did you actually bought it back or you hacked it from the buyer, after you had sold it. Making you the first to have hacked the account, haven't had ties to it. (Suspicion)
2. Could it be that, the buyer later hacked it from you again or it is as you claim. To have bought and then you got hacked?

One of the ways to prove you had at some point owned the said account is as @Examplens suggested.
If we talking about this joeperry can you sign or even send a specific amount from any of the addresses used by this account? that would certainly come if you had control over that account at some time.
I find a few of them on https://ninjastic.space/user/id/97179?addresses

Now your response to that is honourable,
I might hold keys for some of the above addresses but I don't have any intentions to claim back this account again so it might not be worth wasting the time. I just want to clear the stuff and know how the account was jacked from me by  the current owner of @Joeperry.
Although, the forum users cannot be satisfied with just claims. You've got to prove you owned it at some point so users would be weary and just words won't do that.

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Hi guys sorry for my late reply. He said he might hold keys of the stated address, I doubt that. But I'll wait for his signed message.

Here's mine:

FROM THE WALLET: 1Hw1548LnvDB9jTUagtFKNMX51MDc7YYRx (which was staked here)

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is Joeperry current date is 9/21/22

Please disregard what this user is saying. I'm not sure what he really wants. Sorry I wasn't able to answer in this thread immediately as I'm busy with my work outside the forum and I was busy checking the signature campaign that I handle.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1Hw1548LnvDB9jTUagtFKNMX51MDc7YYRx
H3+DqF9PpEDRdehD8tDPbyzy6jHdvHm+D2F0jyA6r6O8N0QdR7GJ4GMrPgjPXfLCjqqMkZZ8P8fmncZyY7ztxws=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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FROM THE WALLET: bc1qpqj6pyza3ystldravcaherppgrkysqgk27makt which I use in some signature campaign that requires Segwit address.

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is Joeperry current date is 9/21/22

This is the other wallet I use if was asked for segwit address and this message is to prove that I have this wallet.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
bc1qpqj6pyza3ystldravcaherppgrkysqgk27makt
IBSeXe+CWrVD4aywegUeG398duHH4b0pO2Wtb7X1V5uTdvQ8AZDaIZaCWGkA1NHsNSpplfI0BQVflJ2vbSyZC2o=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

[I can't let it work in brainwallet, however I tried using electrum to verify it and it works. Can someone do me a favor and verify it? Thanks]

About this wallet bc1q06cycdzp8sz9s7e2gztgxmwlk50422aklqr5j6 I'm sorry but I can't found it maybe in my other computer but I hope the two addresses above is enough proof.



The addresses below are not mine but this addresses are from the participants of my previous campaign. This is the addresses of the users who caught cheating which can be found in my cheating reference thread
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0x9a72581578DC63c751aE7CFE0Fd014913282F969



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September 21, 2022, 02:16:08 PM
 #21

Quoting for reference, both addresses have been verified.

Hi guys sorry for my late reply. He said he might hold keys of the stated address, I doubt that. But I'll wait for his signed message.

Here's mine:

FROM THE WALLET: 1Hw1548LnvDB9jTUagtFKNMX51MDc7YYRx (which was staked here)

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is Joeperry current date is 9/21/22

Please disregard what this user is saying. I'm not sure what he really wants. Sorry I wasn't able to answer in this thread immediately as I'm busy with my work outside the forum and I was busy checking the signature campaign that I handle.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1Hw1548LnvDB9jTUagtFKNMX51MDc7YYRx
H3+DqF9PpEDRdehD8tDPbyzy6jHdvHm+D2F0jyA6r6O8N0QdR7GJ4GMrPgjPXfLCjqqMkZZ8P8fmncZyY7ztxws=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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FROM THE WALLET: bc1qpqj6pyza3ystldravcaherppgrkysqgk27makt which I use in some signature campaign that requires Segwit address.

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is Joeperry current date is 9/21/22

This is the other wallet I use if was asked for segwit address and this message is to prove that I have this wallet.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
bc1qpqj6pyza3ystldravcaherppgrkysqgk27makt
IBSeXe+CWrVD4aywegUeG398duHH4b0pO2Wtb7X1V5uTdvQ8AZDaIZaCWGkA1NHsNSpplfI0BQVflJ2vbSyZC2o=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

[I can't let it work in brainwallet, however I tried using electrum to verify it and it works. Can someone do me a favor and verify it? Thanks]

About this wallet bc1q06cycdzp8sz9s7e2gztgxmwlk50422aklqr5j6 I'm sorry but I can't found it maybe in my other computer but I hope the two addresses above is enough proof.



The addresses below are not mine but this addresses are from the participants of my previous campaign. This is the addresses of the users who caught cheating which can be found in my cheating reference thread
Code:
0x801a9C79e5e7C5e6377f7EF65B1C7d81CA831Ec1
0x9a72581578DC63c751aE7CFE0Fd014913282F969



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September 21, 2022, 06:36:39 PM
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It's so obvious that the account has changed hands first in 2018 and later in 2020.
I don't want to claim the account back but just want to bring the incident in limelight.

So, joeperry signed the addresses and proved that he owns the private key of the address that was used back in 2018. Can you do the same, and confirm your side of the story?

I've seen numerous accounts getting tagged for changing hands so I might just wait and watch how fair the community here is to everyone. Personally, more than 50 of mine accounts were tagged for changing hands. :/

What's your point? Just because someone tagged 50 of your alt accounts, you want us to do the same on the joeperry account? But why? What did he do to you?

Sometimes I really feel like decentralisation isn't of much help. Partiality comes into play. Full stop.

I don't understand, what partiality? For what reason?
We just wanted you to show some evidence.

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