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September 20, 2022, 02:26:16 PM
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I see this that lets go to war means let us ulter the existence of certain economic progression. Apart from death of people both soldiers and the civilian, it take back the system backward from the party in the war but the effect is more on the people not in the fighting, the world at large. It is effect more on the world as it increase inflation and reduce the living of the people of the world if the countries have major contribution for the world economy.

The effect of war include rising inflation, extreme poverty, increasing food insecurity, deglobalization, and worsening environmental degradation. All the effect here are what we see in the Ukraine and Russia war, example is inflation that is affecting different country in their economy because products going out from Ukraine like wheat or corn leaving out there in small quantity and expensive. Russia is not supplying energy to Europe neighborhood and that slow access to production in the region there and causing life to be difficult.

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Russia is a major supplier of fossil fuels, especially to Europe. Disruptions to supplies of these commodities are driving up prices.

The degradation of environment is also there if war happen and this is major effect on agricultural produce leading into the food shortage and insecurities around that.

There are many negative effect of war but no profit and  rebalancing fiscal priorities could prove quite challenging even in advanced economies.
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September 20, 2022, 03:05:11 PM
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War has always been associated with altered economic progression for citizens who then become victims of the harsh economic realities they will have to face as a result of crisis. But there are some people and companies that benefit and are not really affected whenever there is a crisis for instance, the manufacturers of guns and ammunitions, pharmaceutical supplies as well and relief materials are always in profit.

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September 20, 2022, 03:06:43 PM
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This is exactly right.  Despite war being awful in terms of the loss of human lives, even worse is the fact that it effects the entire worlds economic progression.  It may not be easy for everyone to see, but it literally does effect every single nation on earth.  It's just a disgustingly selfish thing for countries to do, knowing that this is going to be the case.

Let's all hope and pray that this war ends sooner than later...our economies depend on it.

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September 20, 2022, 04:37:52 PM
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Under a capitalist system that establishes consumer societies, the crises will not stop. The need for raw materials makes the economies of the world highly interconnected, and this is what makes crises spread and affect all countries very quickly in the so-called domino effect. The crisis of the Ukrainian war should give lessons to the countries of the world in working to achieve self-sufficiency while reducing the need for external resources.
I also hope that this crisis will end quickly, but it seems that there are no indications that this will happen soon .
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September 20, 2022, 05:26:30 PM
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This is indeed one of the things that can indeed be a decisive or turning point in the economy because it is clear that with the war there will definitely be an economic crisis, but the problem is that when so many lives have been lost, it is actually very sad because I still feel it is not worth it when there are so many people. Even though the existing victims were replaced with economic progress, I still don't really like this because apart from the economic impact, the psyche of the people involved in the war are definitely affected.

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September 20, 2022, 06:07:12 PM
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This is indeed one of the things that can indeed be a decisive or turning point in the economy because it is clear that with the war there will definitely be an economic crisis, but the problem is that when so many lives have been lost, it is actually very sad because I still feel it is not worth it when there are so many people. Even though the existing victims were replaced with economic progress, I still don't really like this because apart from the economic impact, the psyche of the people involved in the war are definitely affected.
Killing civilians is not the main objective of fighting wars and is considered a war crime even if one person who is not a military person is killed. The problem is the exploitation of densely populated cities as hideouts and fortresses, in addition to using people as human shields during confrontations.
The rules of war that no one respects require that the conflict be between armies and not against the population. It also requires the availability of a battlefield and the provision of humanitarian corridors for civilians, while neutralizing hospitals and shelters .
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September 20, 2022, 06:55:27 PM
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War has been part of the world since the beginning of time. Its been a way through which civilizations are carved. A way to attain a lasting piece as it is served, out of the ashes, life is birth. Its something we all hope to avoid but it happens anyway and rarely.

The war between Russia and Ukraine is regrettably and it has lasted more than most of us would have hoped or estimated that it did but, we should be rest assured that its going to bring a lasting peace between both nations even though individuals will still hold on to there grievances.

A little backward might bring about a galloping forward match to a better civilization, a correction towards most of the ills and its would be one that is won out of pain.
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September 20, 2022, 07:08:21 PM
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There is also an economical impact on the taxation as well, many governments tax people a lot more, and spend a lot more on military, even if they are not involved, just so they could be ready in case anything happens, and that is not really acceptable. I personally believe that the best thing to do would be making sure that you are not part of this at all, doesn't make sense to me, just leave it all together and let's not fight.

There are two sides who wants different things? Just sit them on a table, and let them hash it out by talking, even getting angry at times, but somehow figure out a method by without killing a single person, much better outcome.

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September 20, 2022, 07:13:41 PM
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It is effect more on the world as it increase inflation and reduce the living of the people of the world if the countries have major contribution for the world economy.
You are spot on here, such effects would only be noticable if that country has a global export which other countries depend on. There are lots of wars which go unoticed by the general public, cause it doesn't have any rebound effects on the rest of the world.

Russia and Ukraine are two heavy exporting nations, contributing to economies on different economies, reasons why the war is so pronounced.

The degradation of environment is also there if war happen and this is major effect on agricultural produce leading into the food shortage and insecurities around that.

There are many negative effect of war but no profit and  rebalancing fiscal priorities could prove quite challenging even in advanced economies.
Environmental degradation is also a major effect. Up there is also the displacement of citizens who now become refugges in other regions, depending on their economy.

The only benefit of war is selfish interest. A nation seeking to expand its empire or build one, would go about conquering viable nations to further their course.

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September 20, 2022, 07:18:59 PM
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It is clear that war has a negative effect on economies, both on a local and global scale.
Rising inflation, food insecurity, and environmental degradation are just some of the ways in which war can take a toll on a country. While there may be some short-term benefits to going to war, in the long run, it is clear that the costs far outweigh the benefits.

Countries would be wise to invest in peacekeeping and diplomacy in order to avoid the devastating effects of war.

But one can easily provide a counter-argument like how war can spur innovation and economic growth. Additionally, war can create new markets for goods and services. Finally, war can lead to the consolidation of power by the victorious party, which can in turn lead to increased stability and prosperity.  Just look at how much industrial and technological growth we saw during the World wars and cold war Cheesy

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There is also an economical impact on the taxation as well, many governments tax people a lot more, and spend a lot more on military, even if they are not involved, just so they could be ready in case anything happens, and that is not really acceptable. I personally believe that the best thing to do would be making sure that you are not part of this at all, doesn't make sense to me, just leave it all together and let's not fight.

There are two sides who wants different things? Just sit them on a table, and let them hash it out by talking, even getting angry at times, but somehow figure out a method without killing a single person, a much better outcome.
A friend of mine recounted an ordeal at his workplace, in which, fighting between colleagues cost them their jobs. War is expensive, in whatever form it comes and as such it must be avoided.
Although most cases require that both parties throw a few punches to buttress a point, with modernization and the ability for disagreeing parties to sit together and reach a compromise, it shouldn't resort to tearing down infrastructures or taking lives before listening ears interfere to prevent a breakdown of economic and political order.
Ukraine vs Russia war is impacting the global economy in almost all facets, in that wheat, coal, gas, and other tradable necessities available, is now scarce or unavailable or the price has skyrocketed so much so that it can't be afforded. Going to war alters the economic progression of the state(s) involved.  Peace is the only solution to economic stability and growth.

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After the war of Russia and Ukraine,their is no world war proclamations due the economy.No country including United States are not ready to get into the war.If the United States had get into the war,it surely affected the economy of country involved in war.And United States,Canada are giving grands to Ukrainian and support them indirectly.And they are not ready to get into the war as in old war strategy during the Cold War time.

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September 20, 2022, 09:28:36 PM
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There are no miracles in war both in the non-physical and physical, all tendencies to anger the ruler can bring down the economy in two countries. death and death were the headlines in war, so if one concluded this was something of a miracle it was quite a fatal mistake. like israel and palestine we will never hear of these two countries progressing in the economic sector in the context on the basis of wars that have occurred in a long period of time there is only death and death. The occurrence of war in the two countries is nothing but based on violence in the struggle for power.

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September 20, 2022, 10:26:57 PM
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War is not good at all even if this makes money for other businesses but overall, many will be affected by the war. The sanctions against Russia affects many countries but that’s ok because that only means those countries are against any war and they will never tolerate such greediness. Though other people will suffer because of high prices but I guess it’s ok to deal with that than to see people dying because of the war. This should be stopped but I guess Russia is not showing any mercy against Ukraine, this is too bad.
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There are men who pretend to be nice to women. Who change the second they get married and their wife depends on them. Its the same with nations and politics. Russia pretends to be nice to europe to get them dependent. Then the second they're dependent on russia. Russia turns into the evil husband who only pretended to be nice.

Being reliant and dependent upon others creates avenues for oppression.

If people desire to be free of these negative cycles and trends. They might set a goal for becoming as independent as possible. Never relying on corporations or foreign powers for anything.

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September 21, 2022, 01:24:04 AM
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And what is certain from the occurrence of war is that more people or countries will be harmed than benefited.
either the country that won the war or the loser. both sides suffer losses. both in terms of economy and the lives or lives of soldiers and civilians.
and we can see the impact of the war russia and ukraine. today we know the impact of the economic crisis has occurred in many countries. especially Europe which has a shortage of energy. and in some countries that also lack food such as wheat and others.
the beneficiary will always be there. but not much.
Recession is now unavoidable as a result of prolonged inflation after the post-pandemic and added to the impact of war. there will be major changes in the economy from now on, either in a negative or a positive way.

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September 21, 2022, 02:50:17 AM
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when there is an issue of war, there is already anxiety for the state and civilians so as to make economic changes that can be felt by several neighboring and cooperating countries, while the most disadvantaged if a war does occur are civilians whose economy and life are not guaranteed.

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Overall, there's really no reason to go to war. In simple terms, war is bad and has to be avoided. If all the energy and money and other resources spent on wars would instead be focused on something else, the world condition would be a lot better.

Especially in the age of globalization, wars would really cause a lot of damage. Russia's invasion attempt of Ukraine gives us an idea of how limited violence could produce global effects.
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September 21, 2022, 03:15:28 AM
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during the war in Syria, the country had not recover since. the cities that once flourished to be abundant with economic activity died. same with all the wars that happened before Russia and Ukraine. Iraq up to this day had not come back to its fullest despite the years have past.

Ukraine had gotten lots of support which they can fight back. But the countries like Syria, Yugoslavia and etc. the economy of these countries also died. my father was one of those who go home devastated by the war. Its why his stories sinked in my mind.









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September 21, 2022, 07:25:00 AM
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Overall, there's really no reason to go to war. In simple terms, war is bad and has to be avoided. If all the energy and money and other resources spent on wars would instead be focused on something else, the world condition would be a lot better.

Especially in the age of globalization, wars would really cause a lot of damage. Russia's invasion attempt of Ukraine gives us an idea of how limited violence could produce global effects.

I fully support your words. All the finances spent on maintaining wars could be directed in a peaceful direction, to help poor countries that barely survive from hunger and lack of water. 
But none of the wars starts from scratch; it is always beneficial to those who pump millions into weapons production. And the actions of rulers who can influence the world with diplomatic relations between countries are always correct. But unfortunately, in our time, there are no such rulers who could act for the people, not for the country's prestige.

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