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October 16, 2022, 10:45:45 PM
Last edit: October 16, 2022, 10:56:25 PM by AmoreJaz
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I am not sure if they are really a "tool", they are not used for this, they are only afraid of what could happen to them, and if the US government is telling you to do something, you do it because it is always scarier otherwise. Plus, like it was said before, they are owned by amazon, one of the biggest American companies in the world, so they are ruled by them as well, if amazon says close down the gamblers, twitch does it because they are the boss.

Considering how big Amazon is, they should be afraid of USA, looking at their salaries and how the cheap workers are the reason why they make money, even the threat of making minimum wage 20+ dollars would crumble the whole amazon company.
That is a scared move, and I understand why it is done but let's not act as if Amazon does everything USA tells them to do, they are the ones who forced USA to accept their situation by saying they could easily move their headquarters to Ireland, in fact some of the big tech startups did, some went to Singapore and some went to Ireland.

Because taxes there are lower, but then there are legal complications so most of them stayed of course. However, Amazon could have forced the government to accept the gambling streamers if they wanted to, it was a small time thing and wouldn't be really a matter for the government, they wouldn't care all that much, but instead Amazon didn't care too much and stopped it instead.

anyway, these streamers/gamblers will always find another platform to do their job. maybe the free streaming service DLive will be popular this time and will find this a very useful streaming platform. if one door closes, other doors will open. that's not the end of their job. maybe in the future they will regret banning these gambler streamers. but at that point, it doesn't matter anymore to gamblers as they already found their new streaming network.

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October 17, 2022, 02:05:21 AM
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I don't really think they ban streaming gambling on their platform. they only limit, licensed gambling is still allowed.
Maybe they don't really care about the negative impact of gambling, maybe this is just one way of regulation from the government.
We know Twitch can never undo a gamble. Of course some of the gambling sites that they banned will continue to run elsewhere and on other platforms.
I think even though there will be a lot of negative impacts that arise, maybe it should just limit the age rather than ban it.
But they know better which is a good step to manage the development of their platform.
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October 17, 2022, 05:22:38 AM
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Based on this announcement, Twitch will update their policy on 18th October. They aren't going to allow the streaming of casino games. They have also mentioned the name of some casinos in the announcement, Stake is one of them. But Stake has announced that Drake will stream the casino games of Stake on his Twitch account on 17th October 1 AM GMT.

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Drake is back on Stake this Sunday, live streaming insane high roller live casino betting!
Sunday 9pm EDT (Monday 1am GMT) on Twitch @ twitch.tv/StakeDrake
Drake will be giving away another $1,000,000! To enter the chance to win, ~~

Seems like Stake.com is trying to take the benefit of the current policy of Twitch to make their last stream there. I'm wondering what Twitch team will do during the stream of tomorrow Tongue

I also saw this announcement a few days ago, the last streaming... I didn't watch it, 1 am is pretty late for me! I was wondering if they were going to announce the next streaming place, did something like that happen? Was it DLive? And one more thing I'm interested in, did they force the story about the next place?

I guess Drake is really rich, but some casinos had pretty young streamers gambling with millions like crazy... with $10k bets and higher, buying bonus rounds with 6 digits numbers. And before they lose everything they "magically" get lucky and recover with a nice profit on top! I think that casinos will not quit this kind of marketing, the only question is where will they move after tomorrow?

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October 17, 2022, 10:50:27 PM
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~snip~
Based on this announcement, Twitch will update their policy on 18th October. They aren't going to allow the streaming of casino games. They have also mentioned the name of some casinos in the announcement, Stake is one of them. But Stake has announced that Drake will stream the casino games of Stake on his Twitch account on 17th October 1 AM GMT.

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Drake is back on Stake this Sunday, live streaming insane high roller live casino betting!
Sunday 9pm EDT (Monday 1am GMT) on Twitch @ twitch.tv/StakeDrake
Drake will be giving away another $1,000,000! To enter the chance to win, ~~

Seems like Stake.com is trying to take the benefit of the current policy of Twitch to make their last stream there. I'm wondering what Twitch team will do during the stream of tomorrow Tongue

I also saw this announcement a few days ago, the last streaming... I didn't watch it, 1 am is pretty late for me! I was wondering if they were going to announce the next streaming place, did something like that happen? Was it DLive? And one more thing I'm interested in, did they force the story about the next place?

I guess Drake is really rich, but some casinos had pretty young streamers gambling with millions like crazy... with $10k bets and higher, buying bonus rounds with 6 digits numbers. And before they lose everything they "magically" get lucky and recover with a nice profit on top! I think that casinos will not quit this kind of marketing, the only question is where will they move after tomorrow?
Only few hours left before they would really be leaving out Twitch and we would really able to know on what platform they would really be hopping on but surely it would be one of those most common streaming sites.

Speaking about Drake then he wont really care on where he would be hanging on and have those streams but its true that Twitch is really just losing some significant part of streams that they do have in their platform

but well its their company then its their rules to be followed.They dont just really like for their reputation to be tarnished out even though it means on removing gambling streams.

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October 20, 2022, 11:25:41 AM
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I keep seeing Dlive.tv by stake.com. Is there other alternatives streaming platform for slots besides this?

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October 20, 2022, 11:40:13 AM
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I believe if the casino game being streamed requires some strategy, like BlackJack and Craps, instead of being just a game of chance, and with the streamer actually teaching people about the maths and the probabilities of the game, Twitch wouldn't ban "gambling streaming". Did Twitch mention that poker player streamers would also be banned? Poker is not a game of chance/gambling.

I saw a useless video with the screen of a slot machine rolling over and over, winning 25,000x in every five rolls. That's what Twitch might be banning. Those useless streams.

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October 20, 2022, 12:42:11 PM
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I keep seeing Dlive.tv by stake.com. Is there other alternatives streaming platform for slots besides this?

I don't think there is another alternative. Now when Twitch doesn't allow streaming from some crypto casinos there's a lot of empty space... Even DLive is not as popular as I saw in some discussions on telegram, I think they don't have a lot of people hanging there. But just two days passed, and most of us wait for the last moment before moving, so in the next weeks/months we will see DLive getting more popular. Of course, if we don't see some new streaming platform entering in the crypto-gambling space.

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October 21, 2022, 09:54:00 AM
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I keep seeing Dlive.tv by stake.com. Is there other alternatives streaming platform for slots besides this?

I don't think there is another alternative. Now when Twitch doesn't allow streaming from some crypto casinos there's a lot of empty space... Even DLive is not as popular as I saw in some discussions on telegram, I think they don't have a lot of people hanging there. But just two days passed, and most of us wait for the last moment before moving, so in the next weeks/months we will see DLive getting more popular. Of course, if we don't see some new streaming platform entering in the crypto-gambling space.


There was BlackJack.fun user who calls himself "Kas" who was streaming through YouTube while he was playing BlackJack. YouTube could become the next video streaming platform preferred by casino players/gamblers. He was not banned, or blocked. I believe the bans only apply to marketers/promoters that doesn't share anything valuable, not to those who stream casino games for "educational" purposes. Cool

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October 21, 2022, 12:59:32 PM
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I keep seeing Dlive.tv by stake.com. Is there other alternatives streaming platform for slots besides this?

I don't think there is another alternative. Now when Twitch doesn't allow streaming from some crypto casinos there's a lot of empty space... Even DLive is not as popular as I saw in some discussions on telegram, I think they don't have a lot of people hanging there. But just two days passed, and most of us wait for the last moment before moving, so in the next weeks/months we will see DLive getting more popular. Of course, if we don't see some new streaming platform entering in the crypto-gambling space.


There was BlackJack.fun user who calls himself "Kas" who was streaming through YouTube while he was playing BlackJack. YouTube could become the next video streaming platform preferred by casino players/gamblers. He was not banned, or blocked. I believe the bans only apply to marketers/promoters that doesn't share anything valuable, not to those who stream casino games for "educational" purposes. Cool
Maybe it's because no one has complained about getting the consequences of watching the streaming video, so Youtube still allows viewers to watch the broadcast. But if many later complain, it may be like what Twitch and Youtube will probably tighten their rules on gambling. If that's really the case, it looks like players streaming via YouTube should find another place that won't mind the content. But I don't think that's fair either because we should be able to choose what we watch and not complain if we get any repercussions. Well, hopefully, the audience can be wise in choosing the content.

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October 21, 2022, 03:21:35 PM
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Wow, if they want to ban it they should go ahead, we have YouTube right? I believe YouTube still allow gambling videos with fair rules and regulations for the YouTubers, this is what Twitch should do too but well it's their problem.
Youtube has a very strict policy for gambling. I guess you shall go to the somewhere. Youtube was still allowing streamer to play that but it seems like your account might be banned anytime by youtube. I saw some streamers that were still using youtube as well. I think that if so many streamers are looking for alternative streaming platform other than twitch

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As expected, after ban almost 90% of Twitch streamers I follow now have been affiliate with Dlive, it will be interesting trend to watch. YouTube can't compete with Dlive in terms of freedom and monetization, IMO.

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As expected, after ban almost 90% of Twitch streamers I follow now have been affiliate with Dlive, it will be interesting trend to watch. YouTube can't compete with Dlive in terms of freedom and monetization, IMO.
I'm still seeing twitch users streaming gambling content on Twitch.

You have some users like this guy https://www.twitch.tv/kyharr who just has a message up with a link to his dlive channel.

Then you have other users like https://www.twitch.tv/cryptopher83 who are streaming gamdom as we speak.


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Wow, if they want to ban it they should go ahead, we have YouTube right? I believe YouTube still allow gambling videos with fair rules and regulations for the YouTubers, this is what Twitch should do too but well it's their problem.

Well, the freedoms on YouTube have been highly regulated, I don't know if they now allow great live presentations, although I have seen that they have used YouTube to be able to access different types of concerts by influential artists and I don't know if YouTube takes a part and another part is carried out by Youtubers, for me these things are more regulated on YouTube in the same way as on Twitch, a new social network would have to come out with the same benefits as Twitch and that can allow more freedoms and thus live from everyone the promotions that they can do within that platform, I don't think it will be that difficult to achieve.

As expected, after ban almost 90% of Twitch streamers I follow now have been affiliate with Dlive, it will be interesting trend to watch. YouTube can't compete with Dlive in terms of freedom and monetization, IMO.

Well I've already seen some streamers who have gone to Dlive, I don't know, but I think that here twitch is the only loser, I wonder if now with all this, are they all going to migrate there? they have the same freedoms, the truth is that I am not very familiar with that platform, I have no idea if they have the same quality, and if they also have the same concept of twitch, I hope that this time they do not make a mistake with the sponsors because one of the ways that Twitch lost the most because of the contributions they receive from them, they should also add more options, and rules for which we have more freedom, where they allow casino representatives to function naturally.

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I keep seeing Dlive.tv by stake.com. Is there other alternatives streaming platform for slots besides this?

I don't think there is another alternative. Now when Twitch doesn't allow streaming from some crypto casinos there's a lot of empty space... Even DLive is not as popular as I saw in some discussions on telegram, I think they don't have a lot of people hanging there. But just two days passed, and most of us wait for the last moment before moving, so in the next weeks/months we will see DLive getting more popular. Of course, if we don't see some new streaming platform entering in the crypto-gambling space.


There was BlackJack.fun user who calls himself "Kas" who was streaming through YouTube while he was playing BlackJack. YouTube could become the next video streaming platform preferred by casino players/gamblers. He was not banned, or blocked. I believe the bans only apply to marketers/promoters that doesn't share anything valuable, not to those who stream casino games for "educational" purposes. Cool

It could be, but I see that Facebook has as new rule like in the past week, but not sure if this covers gambling streamers as a result of the Twitch saga.

I thought Clive could be one good alternative, but we will see if it has what it takes to be the new home of this gambling streamers or there will be new one coming along. Again, this really sent shockwave from all front specially those who have been calling Twitch a home for the last 4-5 years as the gambling industry grows. But since the take over, every streamers should be looking for other ways to make money or what they do best.

 
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One thing is for sure, if the website doesn't want to let someone do something, that is in their right to do it. We consider "illegal" in a very grey sense here, because we like to gamble here and we are gamblers, but the reality is that gambling is not allowed in most places. Sure it's not as illegal as stealing from someone, or hurting someone, but it's still illegal.

It means, just like how you can't do any of those illegal things, you can't do this neither because it's illegal in almost everywhere aside from a few places. That's an important thing. Because it gives them the ease of mind to ban it, and give this as credible reason behind it.
Apart from the ban, some sites and region do not condole gambling to avoid unnecessary trigger and abuse which is normally done by selfish gamblers and also from people who are not supposed to be gambling especially the children that could find good alternative in playing bets to make more money. This ban is cause so many havoc making some persons to look for fast alternative to satisfy their curious to continue playing bets and making profits just like they have been doing.

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Regarding this topic, we need to see what causes, reasons, and explanations for Twitch to ban content about gambling on their platform, as for these things you can see directly from the link below.

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/22/1124384092/twitch-bans-some-gambling-content-after-an-outcry-from-streamers

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It will not be possible for streamers to bring it back because this time around it was a little bit more about law and a lot less about what twitch and amazon wanted. The usual thing is if you remove a feature then you are not going to get in trouble if you put it back, maybe the streamers liked that feature and they want it back, or maybe the viewers did, and that way you could put something back in.

But, this time around it’s not just a feature, it's literally a whole segment of it and that means they can't just make it come back that easily because there are laws involved. I believe that it’s a good decision to get rid of it, doesn't really hurt anyone, and helps a ton of people stay away from it.

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Wow, if they want to ban it they should go ahead, we have YouTube right? I believe YouTube still allow gambling videos with fair rules and regulations for the YouTubers, this is what Twitch should do too but well it's their problem.
Youtube has a very strict policy for gambling. I guess you shall go to the somewhere. Youtube was still allowing streamer to play that but it seems like your account might be banned anytime by youtube. I saw some streamers that were still using youtube as well. I think that if so many streamers are looking for alternative streaming platform other than twitch

Well, it is necessary to emphasize that every streamer will look for the cheapest possible side, because this is the main thing, it will also be for the benefit of those who enter the streamer, so if we decide to watch, the best option is YouTube, Instagram, that they have a good platform for it, however with the policies for games if they do not allow them simply they are the ones who lose, I think that a person who uses these platforms if they see that it is from an online casino they will be interested, also they have some streamers good people, or influential people is much better, for example, in the case of stake.com we have Drake, and where Drake goes all his fnas will go then that is something that should not be given much importance.




In my personal opinion about all this it is that it is a pity that things could develop like this, they have killed a business model for what I consider a small thing, with wanting to comply and having to demonstrate "values" they have stopped receiving many millions of dollars, this is something that sometimes I can't understand, while they do this here, someone else is doing the activity they had here on twich, it's a real shame.

For now I think there are many streamers who have gone to a platform called dlive, I don't know what it's like, I don't have an account there, but where they offer a service similar to the one that twich had, many will leave without hesitation.

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November 10, 2022, 11:41:33 PM
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https://www.ltccasino.com/cryptocasino/roshtein-full-story-of-twitch-s-crypto-casino-ban/

full story about Rosh and others fake money streamers
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November 11, 2022, 03:45:23 AM
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Banning streamers looks very strange and I think steammers can always find other platforms they can use to get what the waited done without this kind of restriction from Twitch.

As far as I know on this matter, not all gambling platforms are hosted by Twitch, rather those hosted by Twitch are only unlicensed gambling live streams that are no longer available on Twitch.

And from what I saw, it started to be implemented last October 18, 2022, so the only gambling platforms that can live streaming using the Twitch platform are licensed online gambling businesses.

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