New Gambling Site has a Short Signature Campaign

[goinmerry]

Does this bear market affect the finances of the casino sites as well, so they have a low allocation for signature campaigns.

Is there even a specific price range matrix that campaigns should follow for us to determine if the allocation for the signature campaign is low or not?

The bear market has nothing to do with the campaign rates in most cases. If the site just stated a budget for a campaign, then that's their budget. The campaign manager will now propose their campaign structure on that budget or something along those lines.

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[bittraffic]

Does this bear market affect the finances of the casino sites as well, so they have a low allocation for signature campaigns.

Is there even a specific price range matrix that campaigns should follow for us to determine if the allocation for the signature campaign is low or not?

The bear market has nothing to do with the campaign rates in most cases. If the site just stated a budget for a campaign, then that's their budget. The campaign manager will now propose their campaign structure on that budget or something along those lines.

It's all up to the casino's funding for the marketing campaign. It could be that they are starting a campaign somewhere else like the adnetwork.
Sometimes when the campaign doesn't give results due to the competition for space in the forum, it's the bigger casinos that eats those new casino coming into the game.

The winner takes it all and the loser has to fall. It's from a popular song by the way which is kind of a gambler's theme.

[Wexnident]

Does this bear market affect the finances of the casino sites as well, so they have a low allocation for signature campaigns.

Not really imo. Crypto in the first place is simply a medium, I don't think it's volatility would be a huge thing for casinos since they still receive and reward strictly the same percent every time a player gambles (unless they reward the winners later, which doesn't happen afaik). I just think it's a matter of testing out the casino/campaign and looking at the results that it brings for that short amount of time.

Some of the old campaigns last long because they've either decided it was worth it for the long run, or with that short-term test they did decide that it would be worth the money and effort to continue doing it imo.
 

Is there even a specific price range matrix that campaigns should follow for us to determine if the allocation for the signature campaign is low or not?

I'd think it's dependent on the casino themselves, so it's different from each casino? A case-by-case basis so to speak. It also depends if they pay depending on rank, on number of posts, as well as the number of members they're willing to accept.

[makishart]

Team is always evaluating the result from the signature campaign. In my opinion if a signature campaign that has been running by a popular site will be going ever longer due to the numerous factors

The revenue from the platform will become main consideration to continue the campaign or not. Remember that only those big sites which have been getting millions dollars of revenue from the gamblers unlike the new sites which have been starting from the bottom.
This is also affecting the duration from the signature campaing that being launched before.

I think that any gambling platform providers have various reasons why the campaign was only going in a short time.

This could be right, they are just probably seeing how the result would be upon applying what casinos does in marketing the casino in the biggest crypto forum.
They could be back in the campaign soon once they tried other marketing strategy. If they find out the signature campaign in the forum works better than the others campaigns they are doing, they might just put more allocation for sig campaign.

Casino doing a signature campaign in bitcointalk earns trust from the community which could be what they are evaluating for now.

Agreed, i don't know why OP must always use bearish trend as a reason for signature campaign to be ran in a short time. The team behind gambling platforms are actively monitoring the result from the campaign. We know that there are so many people who actively playing gambling in this forum and it's also crypto related forum which makes the sites seems pretty easy to attract them to visit their sites and try their platforms.

The problem is if it's not always a new site that promoting in this forum must always get a good result from their marketing efforts

[Baofeng]

Some time ago I saw a new gambling site appear with a signature campaign managed by the professional Manager like Hhampuz , Cryptobrainbross. Like campaign  Fairspin, Bluechip (which I follow) both gambling sites didn't last long. Fairspin only runs for 2 weeks and Bluechip only runs for 1 week, and for several other signature campaigns it has also started to be held or ended.

Does this bear market affect the finances of the casino sites as well, so they have a low allocation for signature campaigns.

With the end of several signature campaigns, the competition is getting tougher. As in the Trus Dice campaign, which was managed by Hhampuz, only a few hours after it was opened, many people applied. and for sure those who have the most merit in the last 120 have a chance to be accepted. while those of us who are only able to collect a few merits are sometimes always eliminated and do not get a place.

I guess it depends on the budget of the casino itself, not if we are in the bear or bull market. There are also times that the casino itself will pause the campaign ans gauge everything and think whether they want to continue or not. As far as a I can remember though, Fairspin has been in the crypto gambling industry since 2018 so they are not new, maybe as I have said, make some changes and decided to come back with a brand new signature campaign.

Of course competition are tough, but I think everyone can get a pie of a the pie, it's a billion dollar industry, and it is a niche. So everyone will have to developed it's own strategy.

[peter0425]

Does this bear market affect the finances of the casino sites as well, so they have a low allocation for signature campaigns.

I'm not sure if this is the main reason but one thing I am sure about that it is not how the campaign distinguish the effect , most of the gambling sites that expect faster result ends up closure meaning either they have lack of funds? or they have lack of trust in bitcointalk user in which the main target here.
there are several gambling site that runs longer even without advertising in this forum so i think it is their own reason why they don't last long.
as it has been tackled so many times before? that the effect should be at least 2-5 months before finally expect a best result.
if after that range of time yet there are no valid response ? then that means one thing that People around here don't really trust that said site.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I guess it depends on the budget of the casino itself, not if we are in the bear or bull market.

If we are in a bear or bull market it does affect, because in a bull market even a fool makes money as long as he doesn't screw up.

In a bear market like now, there is less money circulating and companies are limited to allocate the money they have available to what is necessary to continue providing the servica and not have to close.

Agreed, i don't know why OP must always use bearish trend as a reason for signature campaign to be ran in a short time. The team behind gambling platforms are actively monitoring the result from the campaign. We know that there are so many people who actively playing gambling in this forum and it's also crypto related forum which makes the sites seems pretty easy to attract them to visit their sites and try their platforms.

The problem is if it's not always a new site that promoting in this forum must always get a good result from their marketing efforts

Has it ever occurred to you that in a bear market advertising is not as effective? In a situation like the one we are in, the return on investment tends to be lower than when the economy is booming, not just in this sector, but in general.

So yes, the bear market does affect signature campaigns, the new ones tend to last less because of the economic situation.

When we are in a bull market there are more signature campaigns available and they last longer.

[swogerino]

The signature is run to test the waters first,if the feedback is good,meaning the sites get a lot of new users signing up from the signature links then most probably they will extend it further.While the signature not being the only way to advertise a crypto casino,I think that the signature is the better of any other form of advertisements because it is run in the most lived crypto space which is exactly this forum here.Rarely I have seen more people interested in crypto outside of this forum,there are other sites who promote crypto casinos but they cannot be compared with our forum.

[Reatim]

There can be some various reasons why some casinos did short campaign only such as:

• Limited budget so they can do it for few weeks only
• Evaluation shows that the campaign is not effective for them, this reason can be because many other reasons
• Too much expectation from the owner to get quick effects from the campaign, it disappoint the owner so they decided to stop after 1-2 weeks

Coming up to the bear market, I do not think it affects directly because I think every casino knows how to allocate their funds.

Most of the time projects and casinos often run for a few weeks is mainly because they've evaluated it as not effective which in fact could be correct especially signature campaigns are more effective on the long run.

evaluation in short time won't bring them any good result because how could you expect a gambler trusted you when they can see that you have a limited budget in running your advertising?
in which I believe not as effective as they wanted the result.

Other reason could also be that casinos and other projects hold or end their campaign as they are only trying to test things out. Another possible reason is that funds are much more needed on other sectors or department from which they cut off the budget for advertisements.

yes that is possibilities as we have seen some site that tries to run campaign and stopped shortly but after couple of months or even a year comes back with bigger campaign and stays till now , Like what they did .

[Pierre 2]

I think this bear market lasted too long than overall expected duration. This was mainly caused by global markets. American Dollar crashed anything its against. Covid, War, Gas crisis, inflation... These were all huge issues to be solved. And after all, gambling sites probably also have issue with money. People tend to save their money for regular expenses in such times like this. So signature campaigns may last shorter than usual.

[Oasisman]

Does this bear market affect the finances of the casino sites as well, so they have a low allocation for signature campaigns.

I'm not sure, but I think it won't quite affect their budget allocated for the signature campaign as they're allocating Btc. Though they might spend more fractions of Btc compared when Btc is in a higher price, but the same goes when someone uses their platform and deposit their crypto.

The huge difference would be for the budget allocated to run the business long term and the willingness for the owner to risk more budget to promote the website.
You won't expect to get good result with a limited capital in a market where competitions are air tight. Most gambling websites offers common and unique bonuses and rewards to attract more users.

If the sig campaign won't work for them, then for sure the problem would be on how they run their promotions. That means, it is less attractive offer than the other online casinos.

[Kakmakr]

Every company or business will test the different marketing strategies to see what is the most effective. If they launch a signature campaign on the forum and they do not get enough new customers signing up for their service or casino, it will not help them to continue with that method of marketing.

The post covid period are very tough for many of these businesses, so the marketing budget is very limited and they are forced to pick the method that render the best result. 

[Adbitco]

I don't really know were your question is directly going to but i must say Truly the bear market have affected all angles of crypto casinos and only those gambling site that has been established for long might or would only survived it to run a signature campaign because, come to think of it those gambling sites that was launched within 2020/21 when bitcoin were high can online have little volume of bitcoin to pay for marketing dip affected all. Know too well that in every dip people always risk little amount of bitcoin out there while most people keeps buying since they don't know what would happened next while most people have it in mind for bitcoin to get $100k.

[samcrypto]

Does this bear market affect the finances of the casino sites as well, so they have a low allocation for signature campaigns.

No because even in Bull market you can see crypto gambling campaign ended early as well, so the market trend doesn’t affect the campaign of a project since it will depends on them on how much is their budget for that particular campaign. Though I see that most of the top site today still have their long signature campaign, and it’s really good for them since they are still in business and they really have a good budget on their marketing campaign which I think is the reason why they are successful today.

[Cookdata]

As a participant, I don't understand if the arguments are necessary, but I think casino marketing on the forum can last depending on several conditions. It could be money, it could be that their expectations were high and the result wasn't appealing to them, or they could change their marketing strategy because, as I've observed, some casinos don't only advertise here on the forum, they have other places they advertise just to get more users into their platforms

Bitcoinchair.com for example do advertise casino on their explorer and I have seen Roobet several times, even 1xbit(_scam) and the same Fairspin people are debating is still right there advertising as you can see from the image below.

As you can see in the image below,Bitcoinchair.com, for instance, does advertise casinos on their explorer. I have seen Roobet multiple times as well as 1xbit (_{a fraud}) and the same Fairspin users are arguing.



So, as I have stated, it is their choice whether to continue or not, but gambling will always exist regardless of the crypto market, it is the users who are no longer earning much from crypto and have all come to signature hunting, which is now diluted with many people, limited campaigns, and plenty applications.

[examplens]

Some time ago I saw a new gambling site appear with a signature campaign managed by the professional Manager like Hhampuz , Cryptobrainbross. Like campaign  Fairspin, Bluechip (which I follow) both gambling sites didn't last long. Fairspin only runs for 2 weeks and Bluechip only runs for 1 week, and for several other signature campaigns it has also started to be held or ended.

Does this bear market affect the finances of the casino sites as well, so they have a low allocation for signature campaigns.

A signature campaign is a part of marketing promotion. if some of the channels do not bring benefits, then you stop investing in that type of advertising.
as far as I have noticed, signature campaigns bring a more tangible result only after a long period. it takes time and constant presence to become recognizable, and for that, you need a slightly bigger budget and patience.
all the short-lived campaigns are expected more in the few first weeks, although this is difficult to achieve, especially in the gambling industry where the competition is huge.

[madnessteat]

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I absolutely agree with you. We shouldn't expect any results from the new signaturr campaign after a week or two. If a new casino wants to attract players to their gaming floor, they can specify in the rules of the signature campaign that the rewards will be paid to the casino's account for all members of the signature campaign. Many of the forum members play gambling and in my opinion this option is great for gaining first reviews of a gambling site.

[ethereumhunter]

I thought maybe the casinos had their own promotion plans so they decided to stop their signature campaign. Or it could be that they want to see how people react because I think if they see good results, they will continue to promote using signature campaigns. Or it could be that this bear market impacts their finances but we don't know what their plans are. Besides, if they had other plans, they would do something to provide further information in their ANN.

[Fundamentals Of]

The bear market may also have played a significant role in the finances of casinos as gamblers might have also been affected by the falling market but I think many of these new casinos that only financed short signature campaigns here are simply providing a very limited budget.

Or perhaps upon their assessment their 1 to 2 weeks of exposure here didn't amount to enough new players. Of course 2 weeks of signature here may not really be enough. But perhaps these companies just want to see a considerable effect to their business only after that short period of time.

[bittraffic]

The bear market may also have played a significant role in the finances of casinos as gamblers might have also been affected by the falling market but I think many of these new casinos that only financed short signature campaigns here are simply providing a very limited budget.

Or perhaps upon their assessment their 1 to 2 weeks of exposure here didn't amount to enough new players. Of course 2 weeks of signature here may not really be enough. But perhaps these companies just want to see a considerable effect to their business only after that short period of time.

Maybe just postponing the marketing for now to save some BTC funds.

It could be if the marketing personnel is just cost-cutting for the marketing. For example, they are paying about 0.003BTC for $60 per week, but if there is a bullrun he could just be paying 0.002 for the same $60/week. Meaning he saves 0.001BTC per week. Does sound like an awesome plan still.